angeleyes
@angeleyes
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ewashington, You MUST have some leo in your chart. LOL! ***squints*** "must over explain...got to look (i.e. be) smart."
@ angeleyes
Interesting point. Logically, I could've.'Just one small problem: Equally, you could've said that which I had; for ex hypothesi, our comments are equivalent to one another. Thus, it's arbitrary as to how one ought to respond in this situation. Therefore, it seems like you may have just answered your own question, even before asking it.
Nevertheless, perhaps the intellectual within me has grown accustomed to expressing himself in such an artistic manner. Perhaps the artist within me has grown accustomed to using his intellect as a guide of expression.
At any rate, if 'everyone' knows this 'to be true,' do you really suppose that any intellectual debate would've arisen here? I highly doubt it.
Ultimately, I've never forced any one to read this blog, let alone my responses. Perhaps some of you secretly enjoy reading my responses, as by doing so slakes a, desired but publicly denied, challenge with you. I suspect this to be the case for some.
By the way, you do possess some angelic eyes...lol
Interesting point. Logically, I could've.'Just one small problem: Equally, you could've said that which I had; for ex hypothesi, our comments are equivalent to one another. Thus, it's arbitrary as to how one ought to respond in this situation. Therefore, it seems like you may have just answered your own question, even before asking it.
Nevertheless, perhaps the intellectual within me has grown accustomed to expressing himself in such an artistic manner. Perhaps the artist within me has grown accustomed to using his intellect as a guide of expression.
At any rate, if 'everyone' knows this 'to be true,' do you really suppose that any intellectual debate would've arisen here? I highly doubt it.
Ultimately, I've never forced any one to read this blog, let alone my responses. Perhaps some of you secretly enjoy reading my responses, as by doing so slakes a, desired but publicly denied, challenge with you. I suspect this to be the case for some.
By the way, you do possess some angelic eyes...lol
Posted by angeleyes
ewashington, You MUST have some leo in your chart. LOL! ***squints*** "must over explain...got to look (i.e. be) smart."
Reaction-formation is the principle that seems to best explain your response. I am an infantryman, currently deployed to Iraq; so, I often haven't much time to address an argument as I desire. I merely type as I see fit. Plus, I assure you that I am not trying to impress anybody here. Some folk pretend, while others are about 'the bizness.' I am one of the latter.
But the fact that you have chosen to respond in the manner that you have speaks volumes to me...
Posted by Kisses
i keep hiding my responses because i don't want to be rude, but honestly ewashington u are a CLOWN
reading your post is like scraping nails on a chalkboard -- excruciating to read!
and this is from someone who loves intellectual stimulations and studies philosophy at that. YOU are not intellectually stimulating, an *your* argument is flawed
Demonstrate to me where the conclusion from argument does not follow from its premises and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, you are not substantiating your argument. And you are still reading my responses; so I am not too bad.
@ periperi
A word (or two) about this term 'pompous.' A 'pompous' individual is characterized by his her desire to show off how formal or proper he or she can be. Now, within my posts, I have only analyzed some arguments that have been presented in the discussion, attempting to show their invalidity or unsoundness, respectively. Significantly, in NONE of of my post have I attacked any particular one's person. Rather, I have only attack one's argument.
Interestingly, however, instead of analyzing my argument, some individuals have attacked my person, even in the form of fallacious argumentation. Go figure. (Such a practice in arguing is informally known as ad hominem reasoning.)
Now, correct me if I am wrong, but by reading my post, where am I ACTUALLY characterizing myself by my "desire to show off how formal or proper I can be"? Is it my language usage? By training, I am a mathematical logician. As such, whenever I see an argument, I tend to analyze as a mathematical logician, even by employing the jargon of mathematical logicians as necessary. But by doing so, I am somehow desiring "to show off how my formal or proper I can be"? Something seems to be awry with your reasoning.
Perhaps some of you are so insecure, as I have once noted, about not understanding some of the things that I say that instead of 'simply' admitting this, you much rather attack my person. Now I find this to be laughable, as I have only been reading, analyzing, and replying to some arguments as a logician - both formally and aloofly. But I am saddened that some of you appear to be so beset by your respective insecurities that you've become froward to strong reasoning.
Indeed, you are a scientist. Perhaps, then, you ought to leave the reasoning or argumentation to us logicians whom ACTUALLY 'know' how to properly do so; for I've never dismissed 'that for which can't be understood fully by man and science as invalid.'
Rather, if you understand propositional logic, even in its basic form, you'll know that only arguments can be 'invalid' but NEVER any dismissals "for that which can't be understood fully by man and science." As such, probably, if you ACTUALLY READ and UNDERSTAND my argument FULLY before commenting on it, as to do otherwise is to act ignorantly about the debate or argument at hand, you'll know that I have only been attacking an argument - not a person - even in a manner that one ought to when engaging another in a logical debate. Go figure.
A word (or two) about this term 'pompous.' A 'pompous' individual is characterized by his her desire to show off how formal or proper he or she can be. Now, within my posts, I have only analyzed some arguments that have been presented in the discussion, attempting to show their invalidity or unsoundness, respectively. Significantly, in NONE of of my post have I attacked any particular one's person. Rather, I have only attack one's argument.
Interestingly, however, instead of analyzing my argument, some individuals have attacked my person, even in the form of fallacious argumentation. Go figure. (Such a practice in arguing is informally known as ad hominem reasoning.)
Now, correct me if I am wrong, but by reading my post, where am I ACTUALLY characterizing myself by my "desire to show off how formal or proper I can be"? Is it my language usage? By training, I am a mathematical logician. As such, whenever I see an argument, I tend to analyze as a mathematical logician, even by employing the jargon of mathematical logicians as necessary. But by doing so, I am somehow desiring "to show off how my formal or proper I can be"? Something seems to be awry with your reasoning.
Perhaps some of you are so insecure, as I have once noted, about not understanding some of the things that I say that instead of 'simply' admitting this, you much rather attack my person. Now I find this to be laughable, as I have only been reading, analyzing, and replying to some arguments as a logician - both formally and aloofly. But I am saddened that some of you appear to be so beset by your respective insecurities that you've become froward to strong reasoning.
Indeed, you are a scientist. Perhaps, then, you ought to leave the reasoning or argumentation to us logicians whom ACTUALLY 'know' how to properly do so; for I've never dismissed 'that for which can't be understood fully by man and science as invalid.'
Rather, if you understand propositional logic, even in its basic form, you'll know that only arguments can be 'invalid' but NEVER any dismissals "for that which can't be understood fully by man and science." As such, probably, if you ACTUALLY READ and UNDERSTAND my argument FULLY before commenting on it, as to do otherwise is to act ignorantly about the debate or argument at hand, you'll know that I have only been attacking an argument - not a person - even in a manner that one ought to when engaging another in a logical debate. Go figure.
@ periperi
Before dealing with the formal aspect of your argument, I will attend to the informal aspects of it. But, first, have you ACTUALLY read and UNDERSTOOD my argument. I have NEVER argued that it is impossible for the "same force (or other forces) to set up specific patterns that could affect our lives i.e level of energy, mood, physical appearance, etc"? In fact, I have argued earlier that this seems to be statistically the case. (Had you actually understood my earlier argument, you would have known this.)
Rather, I have argued that it ought to be human beings dictating or determining the 'behaviors' (i.e., the meanings) of the zodiac sign and NOT the other way around. In fact, 'reality' tends to accord well to my argument, as any horoscope is statistical in its extent; and we know that many humans beings actually behave in manners quiet contrary to astrological predictions
But I forgive you....lol
Before dealing with the formal aspect of your argument, I will attend to the informal aspects of it. But, first, have you ACTUALLY read and UNDERSTOOD my argument. I have NEVER argued that it is impossible for the "same force (or other forces) to set up specific patterns that could affect our lives i.e level of energy, mood, physical appearance, etc"? In fact, I have argued earlier that this seems to be statistically the case. (Had you actually understood my earlier argument, you would have known this.)
Rather, I have argued that it ought to be human beings dictating or determining the 'behaviors' (i.e., the meanings) of the zodiac sign and NOT the other way around. In fact, 'reality' tends to accord well to my argument, as any horoscope is statistical in its extent; and we know that many humans beings actually behave in manners quiet contrary to astrological predictions
But I forgive you....lol
Posted by gemtaur
Mr. Libra, I just want to tell you that I think you are da bomb 🙂
If you are referring to me (which I think you are probably not...lol), I humbly thank you for your compliment. But, in fact, I am just a little explosive try to be as powerful as bomb...lol But the real bomb is the 'truth'! Now this only makes sense if you are referring to me but I am probably krazy...lol. Perhaps I do over-analyze things...lol Thanks.
For crying out loud,is this thread still going?? As the OP i want to say thank you all for taking time out to post.
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Posted by Beetleguese
Are all Libras this serious? I once went on a couple of dates with a Libra chick and she seemed a bit too straight laced for me, I just couldn't see the fun factor anywhere.
EW, I get what you're saying but duuude, I hope for the sake of your sex life that you don't do this in real life very often 🙂
This is just mental gymnastics to me....lol I love to exercise my brain while I'm in Iraq. But unless I see some so-called 'ethical' or logical grounds for it, I usually don't engage in these type of discussions with women whom I court. Besides, until today, I have not commented on this topic for a while.
But it's good to know that there is at least a gematur out there whom understands the 'on-goings' of formal reasoning. Plus, perhaps I have a bad habit of analyzing arguments formally (and I'm not even considering some of the modal arguments that I have find to be unsound on here); but I will try to be less 'mechanical' in my language. This is also an art form for me by the way.
@ Kisses
In my earlier post, I have stated that my contention is with the metaphysics that informs modern-day astrology's interpretive methods. That is, I have contended that human beings dictate the meaning of names (e.g., the meaning of the zodiac SIGNS) and not the other way around.
Why people behave as they do? I have argued that it is likely because people are socialized through experiences, evolution, learning etc. to behave in certain ways, and this largely by human choices or efforts. Sure: many outside forces influence our actions; yet the key words is 'INFLUENCE' and NOT 'GOVERN." Thus, I have argued that (logically) a zodiac sign governing a person's behavior is equivalent to the name 'Kisses' governing the behavior of the person to whom the name 'Kisses' refers.
To me, thus, metaphysically sound astrology is this: there are certain groups of people whom are born in certain periods of the year, each period equal to one another in time but totaling 12 (or more correctly 13), corresponding to the actual 13 zodiacs astronomically. These same people within each respective birth group tend to possess statistically similar traits; thus, the astrological names (i.e., zodiac signs) merely signifiy these 12 (or 13) groups whom share statistically similar traits, individually or respectively.
And for this, I have been crucified.
In my earlier post, I have stated that my contention is with the metaphysics that informs modern-day astrology's interpretive methods. That is, I have contended that human beings dictate the meaning of names (e.g., the meaning of the zodiac SIGNS) and not the other way around.
Why people behave as they do? I have argued that it is likely because people are socialized through experiences, evolution, learning etc. to behave in certain ways, and this largely by human choices or efforts. Sure: many outside forces influence our actions; yet the key words is 'INFLUENCE' and NOT 'GOVERN." Thus, I have argued that (logically) a zodiac sign governing a person's behavior is equivalent to the name 'Kisses' governing the behavior of the person to whom the name 'Kisses' refers.
To me, thus, metaphysically sound astrology is this: there are certain groups of people whom are born in certain periods of the year, each period equal to one another in time but totaling 12 (or more correctly 13), corresponding to the actual 13 zodiacs astronomically. These same people within each respective birth group tend to possess statistically similar traits; thus, the astrological names (i.e., zodiac signs) merely signifiy these 12 (or 13) groups whom share statistically similar traits, individually or respectively.
And for this, I have been crucified.
Posted by gemtaurPosted by ewashington7000Posted by gemtaur
Mr. Libra, I just want to tell you that I think you are da bomb 🙂
If you are referring to me (which I think you are probably not...lol), I humbly thank you for your compliment. But, in fact, I am just a little explosive try to be as powerful as bomb...lol But the real bomb is the 'truth'! Now this only makes sense if you are referring to me but I am probably krazy...lol. Perhaps I do over-analyze things...lol Thanks.
Over-analyze??!! Libra??!! Say it ain't so! 🙂click to expand
I would but it might carry a philosophical explication with it....lol
I say that it becomes you to cleave to any truth stemming from astrology; but you will likely do better to cleave to the truths of astrology coupled with the truths found outside of the domain of astrology. This, in my opinion, will give you a broader, more exhaustive, perspective on human behaviors in contrast to singularly viewing through an astrological framework.
I have done enough mental exercising, even mentally exercising somewhat for you. But I'll humor you again.
It's called Ophiuchus - the 13th Zodiac.
It's called Ophiuchus - the 13th Zodiac.
Is this a bona fide case of selective memory? Negative. This is a bona fide case of equivocation coupled with selective memory.
Now these are your very words: "also, i don't believe the 13th sign thing, although maybe i should read more about it?
12 fits in with 360 perfectly, 13 is just odd, it leaves decimals and all that. doesn't make sense
since u like to do 'intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing some more"
Note: "...since u like to do intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing more" You, by your very own words, suggest that I do more (mental gymnastics).
Hence, my following response: "I have done enough mental exercising, even mentally exercising somewhat for you. But I'll humor you again. It's called Ophiuchus - the 13th Zodiac."
"I said I need to read MORE about it." This is patently false. What you've actually said is "...maybe i should read more about it?" and then have concluded "since u like to do 'intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing some more."
And you say that I'm the ridiculous one. By the way, why do you appear to be so mad? ...lol
Now these are your very words: "also, i don't believe the 13th sign thing, although maybe i should read more about it?
12 fits in with 360 perfectly, 13 is just odd, it leaves decimals and all that. doesn't make sense
since u like to do 'intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing some more"
Note: "...since u like to do intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing more" You, by your very own words, suggest that I do more (mental gymnastics).
Hence, my following response: "I have done enough mental exercising, even mentally exercising somewhat for you. But I'll humor you again. It's called Ophiuchus - the 13th Zodiac."
"I said I need to read MORE about it." This is patently false. What you've actually said is "...maybe i should read more about it?" and then have concluded "since u like to do 'intellectual gymnastics' i suggest doing some more."
And you say that I'm the ridiculous one. By the way, why do you appear to be so mad? ...lol
Posted by Beetleguese
Iraq? Air Force maybe, logistics?
Anyway like I said I get what your point is from the first post you made, no real harm in flogging the maggots off of the dead horse I suppose, just so long as you realize you won't change anyone's mind 🙂
Iraq. US Army. 11 Bravo (i.e., infantryman) - Combat arms. (Forgive me for being very much atypical in many aspects in comparison to a lot of Libras whom I know - or you know. Nonetheless, I've maxed out my test scores, qualifying for any job that I desire; but I've wanted the unique 'experience' of being 'on the line.' It's incomparable.)
Nevertheless, I appreciate your understanding. I've only originally responded that I may open some people's mind up to other perspectives, encouraging along the way. My has goal has NEVER been to convince anyone. The logical debate that has transpired is merely good practice in public speaking/debating for me...lol I confess: I am guilty as charged...lol
By the way, my unit is 4-9 Infantry (Able Company), out of 4th Brigade 2nd Infantry Division; and you may be hearing of us on the news shortly.
If you said that I sounded bombastic, your contention would've been more appealing to me, even though I would've still disagreed with you. Plus, please don't worry: nobody's comment offended me. I was merely having fun 'exercising'...lol Nonetheless, I thought that we were friends the whole time?...lol sure y not?
too smart
Posted by gemtaur
prettyladii, you should check out his thread on the scorpio forum. you too kisses & femme.
everyone always underestimates libra and then they SURPRISE you
you're going to have groupies now E 🙂
just the way libra likes it haha
But I am not worthy of any groupies... lol
Posted by prettyladii
too smart
Negative. I'm not smart enough. If I were, I would be better at communicating with folks. 😢
Not only have you demonstrated to me that you hardly understand logic, you've also demonstrated to me that you haven't a leg to stand in terms of this debate. Thus, you've appeared to have resorted to caviling at my responses....
But I suspect that something else is at play here.....hmmmmmm
But I suspect that something else is at play here.....hmmmmmm
Posted by Kisses
wait...and u said evolution LMAO!!
the ancients knew about the zodiac signs...and they've always been the same. they have not evolved in the slightest
and if anything, humans are, and have been moving AWAY from the mystical and relying more on the scientifically proven.
no, you're not pompous, you're not bombastic, you're deluded
I think you're cute....lol
@ Kisses
In these types of debate, I'm pretty much immune to straw man arguments or reverse psychological ploys. So, you may want to try another strategy.
'Still cute though....lol
In these types of debate, I'm pretty much immune to straw man arguments or reverse psychological ploys. So, you may want to try another strategy.
'Still cute though....lol
Posted by Kisses
we posted at the same time almost. interesting.
you're not immune to anything sweetie...and even if u were, it means nothing. u keep stating irrelevant info so people can see "just what u know"
if anything's cute, it's that. what did u study in school, i'm really curious?
'I'm pretty much immune to' your 'straw man arguments or reverse psychological ploys.'
I was a double major in mathematics and physics.
Posted by Kisses
and in all honesty, this 'debate' is a JOKE!
i'm not even interested in debating this bs on a message board
i just had to say that you're a clown, because u are. you're not coming across as intelligent by any means. you sound ridiculously misguided and trying too hard
i just had to say something is all
I think that this debate has temporarily caused you to lose your mind.
Are you a Scorpio or something?
@ gemtur
She won't stop! ...lol
She won't stop! ...lol
Just to get back to topic, my cousin is in a libra scorp relationship, and to be honest I dont think they work well but they do work. she (libra) is always looking for fairness in their arguments and her partener(scorp) is always just trying to win the argument as he see's her need for fairness as a personal attack on his opinion. They have managed to make it work for two years now but it takes a lot of effort on both parts. Basically Libra has to bite there tounge a lot and make sure they go the right way about asking the scorp to do things, and scorp has to accept libra's whimsical view of things accept that they have an opinion about everything and not take them personally.
Posted by libra sun
Just to get back to topic, my cousin is in a libra scorp relationship, and to be honest I dont think they work well but they do work. she (Libra) is always looking for fairness in their arguments and her partener(scorp) is always just trying to win the argument as he see's her need for fairness as a personal attack on his opinion. They have managed to make it work for two years now but it takes a lot of effort on both parts. Basically Libra has to bite there tounge a lot and make sure they go the right way about asking the scorp to do things, and scorp has to accept libra's whimsical view of things accept that they have an opinion about everything and not take them personally.
Libra's 'whimsical' view of things? That doesn't seems to be the word that describes most Libras that I know. That is, from my experience, Libras are NOT characterized by capriciousness. In fact, we tend to be a rather deliberate group of people.....
In my opinion Libras seem to live in a dream world (myself included)
Posted by libra sun
In my opinion Libras seem to live in a dream world (myself included)
"A dream world"...? Please explain. I'm a Libra.
I thought it was pretty self explanitary. I dont have the time or the education to elaborate in such a way as you do.
Posted by libra sun
I thought it was pretty self explanitary. I dont have the time or the education to elaborate in such a way as you do.
There's nothing self-explanatory about referring to Libras in such a way including no explanation. Plus, you needn't an elaborate reply to explain yourself, let alone much time to do so. But to each, her or his own.
you quite obviously are living in a dream world, where everything everyone says needs to be disected. maybe you should try getting out of your head for once and into the real world. I added my 2 cents worth but you seem to need to add your 10 dollars worth. If you do not know what a dream world is then you are obviously less educated then you make out. I added my post to help out the OP with my opinion, not to get into debate with you.
Dream world: "a world of dreams" self explanitory
Self explanitory: "no explanation needed"
anyway this is my last post on this topic as i find you of great annoyance, so no need to reply as I will not be taking another look. although I know you will reply because you just cant help yourself!
Goodbye
Dream world: "a world of dreams" self explanitory
Self explanitory: "no explanation needed"
anyway this is my last post on this topic as i find you of great annoyance, so no need to reply as I will not be taking another look. although I know you will reply because you just cant help yourself!
Goodbye
@ libra sun
The 'real world'? I still don't follow you. Where I am, the 'real world' consists of folk blowing themselves up into tiny pieces every other week, being mindful of mortar rounds, or engaging an enemy, even in consistent 120 degree plus weather. Is this the 'real world' that you live in as well? Perhaps this all in my head.
But if my question for clarification has somehow caused you to summon disrespect within your reply, so be it. But please don't mention the term 'education,' as you appear to embarrass yourself by merely saying it.
There are ways to vent frustration healthily: you know?
The 'real world'? I still don't follow you. Where I am, the 'real world' consists of folk blowing themselves up into tiny pieces every other week, being mindful of mortar rounds, or engaging an enemy, even in consistent 120 degree plus weather. Is this the 'real world' that you live in as well? Perhaps this all in my head.
But if my question for clarification has somehow caused you to summon disrespect within your reply, so be it. But please don't mention the term 'education,' as you appear to embarrass yourself by merely saying it.
There are ways to vent frustration healthily: you know?
Wow Mr Nice.. I said it was a tendency of Scorps (esp young ones).. and I love Scorps dearly, but it IS. Doesn't make them less of anything or worse at anything. Just like Pisces have a tendency to be weak-willed and easily-led (only ONE young Pisces (Cancer Moon) that I can think of, but it keeps coming up in Astrology anyway, sooo...) fine, *I* can accept that as a Pisces tendency without taking it personally and getting all bent out of shape merely because it does not match with me. If I got disgusted and upset every time someone mentioned a negative trait of my Pisces brethren, I'd spend my days pissed off and have no time to sleep!
I have other placements that modify my Piscean Sun, which I'm grateful for and always learning about.... the Earth that grounds me and gives backbone.. the Fire that makes me less passive and more outgoing.. the Air that helps balance my emotional side with my logical, thinking side... it's likely that you have other placements that modify and soften those Scorp Sun edges... for example.. the Scorpio Moons/Venuses I've known tend to be WAY more jealous and unable to let go of anything than a mere Scorp Sun, regardless of their Sun signs. Am I saying they are overly-dramatic jealous fit-throwing freaks? No, I'm not. (Knew a Leo man who was though!) If I had more Water in me, I'd probably be more Pisces, and would certainly have more of the "Watery" traits.
And as far as jealousy.. I know what it feels like, of course. But the fleeting twinges are short-lived and usually caused by another, deeper emotion that I dig for.. usually fear-based. And if you identify what you fear, and what you are really feeling underneath... constructively dealing with and balancing the emotions is easier. Also, when I *do* feel any jealousy.. it doesn't show, never let them see you burn. It that a grace or a flaw? I'm not sure... I just know it's ME. I can sometimes ADMIT to feeling jealous (and the reasons it's being triggered underneath) in calm words, but it won't show on my face or in my actions, so people are always surprised. Either the Pisces or my Libra placements likely give me this strange ability (?) to detach my emotions, like a balloon on a string.. something I can look at objectively from all angles without actively suffering. I KNOW what I'm feeling... I just won't martyr myself for the emotion.
I have other placements that modify my Piscean Sun, which I'm grateful for and always learning about.... the Earth that grounds me and gives backbone.. the Fire that makes me less passive and more outgoing.. the Air that helps balance my emotional side with my logical, thinking side... it's likely that you have other placements that modify and soften those Scorp Sun edges... for example.. the Scorpio Moons/Venuses I've known tend to be WAY more jealous and unable to let go of anything than a mere Scorp Sun, regardless of their Sun signs. Am I saying they are overly-dramatic jealous fit-throwing freaks? No, I'm not. (Knew a Leo man who was though!) If I had more Water in me, I'd probably be more Pisces, and would certainly have more of the "Watery" traits.
And as far as jealousy.. I know what it feels like, of course. But the fleeting twinges are short-lived and usually caused by another, deeper emotion that I dig for.. usually fear-based. And if you identify what you fear, and what you are really feeling underneath... constructively dealing with and balancing the emotions is easier. Also, when I *do* feel any jealousy.. it doesn't show, never let them see you burn. It that a grace or a flaw? I'm not sure... I just know it's ME. I can sometimes ADMIT to feeling jealous (and the reasons it's being triggered underneath) in calm words, but it won't show on my face or in my actions, so people are always surprised. Either the Pisces or my Libra placements likely give me this strange ability (?) to detach my emotions, like a balloon on a string.. something I can look at objectively from all angles without actively suffering. I KNOW what I'm feeling... I just won't martyr myself for the emotion.
Also.. I'm an old lady, and I've lived a lot in my years. I always strive to be better, and I still do. I'm constantly growing, changing, evolving. I am NOT the same as I was 20 years ago.. or even 15, 10, or 5. I'm not even the same as I was last year. when I find a trait that does not serve me well... whether it's that I know I have an addictive personality (so I avoid things I could become addicted to -- quite a feat in a family largely comprised of alcoholics/addicts!).. or I found myself in a situation where I felt I'd been too weak and not assertive or true to myself.. and I allowed someone to hurt or use me... I worked on changing it so that it wouldn't happen again. That's personal growth, and I'm a big fan.
Have I fixed ALL of my character faults and flaws? HELL NO.. I doubt I've even identified all of them yet, as deep and complex as I am! But I'll never stop working on myself. And I'll never take it personally when someone doesn't like or understand me (or Pisces in general) because I need no one's acceptance or validation by my own. ^_^
Have I fixed ALL of my character faults and flaws? HELL NO.. I doubt I've even identified all of them yet, as deep and complex as I am! But I'll never stop working on myself. And I'll never take it personally when someone doesn't like or understand me (or Pisces in general) because I need no one's acceptance or validation by my own. ^_^
I love your posts Nefer you have always reminded me of my mum she is a Pisces, we have never gotton on particularly well but I have always appreciated her calm tone and the way she put things across, although it did annoy me when I was young and was actually trying to pick a fight lol, but can appreciate it much more as I got older.
wow...libra sun..I was just about to post the same sentiment that you did about Nefer !!
I was deeply involved with a Pisces woman... It was the best and worst of times..
she was addicteed to substances... but a very deep artistic person.. I decided it was too much to handle,
upsa and downs and eventually found my glorious LION...!!!
I was deeply involved with a Pisces woman... It was the best and worst of times..
she was addicteed to substances... but a very deep artistic person.. I decided it was too much to handle,
upsa and downs and eventually found my glorious LION...!!!
Posted by Mr Nice
Nefer, I not taking personal, I was merely saying I dont fit into how you discribed my sign, lets face it scorpios will always be the black sheep of the zodica.
Mmmm forgive me then.. you seemed a bit miffed and antagonistic towards my comments (and have been quite bristly with me in the past; I seem to rub you all wrong)... using "in your eyes".. talking about how YOU are different (and I'm therefore wrong?) ...then throwing a challenge at me about jealousy (as if I said jealousy was a bad thing or abnormal)... finishing it off with a jab at Pisces characteristics to one-up me... kind of "Well, YOU think Scorps are THIS.. so I say Pisces are THAT, and worse! HA!"
*smile* You just don't seem to know how much I really, really like Scorps. I'm just not fooled into thinking they're total sweethearts... they aren't.. and that's part of their undeniable charm! 😛
Truce? *olive branch*
Some people here missed out on the fact that people are unique. If we are born under the same sun sign still one is different from the other cause there are other factors affecting us. An accurate reading of one's zodiac should have the exact Time, Date, Year and the Place where one is born. We are affected by sun and moon and the other planets, that gives us the uniqueness.
Now to say, that Scorp-Lib relationship doesn't work, it could be true to some but NOT ABSOLUTELY TRUE FOR ALL. And even if we are born under such a sign or certain planets influencing us, we shouldn't discount the fact that environment also affects us. And we are humans after all, we have our own freewill so it's up to us to decide on what our fate would be with the sun sign we are in a relationship with.
Astrology is a GUIDE for us, not the BE ALL and END ALL.
In Addition:
IMHO, astrology is still a science. During the ancient times people try to observe (Observation is science) and record the arrangement of stars, astrology just branch out into astronomy and astrological-mysticism because people nowadays have the technology to explain the stars and the planets motion,thus giving us astronomy. But the influence of stars and planets to human behavior is so complex that it is unquantifiable statistically. I know ewashington7000 knows that even the "Duality Principle of Light" is unexplainable to physicists.
My point is, that one thing about Astrology is still unexplainable but perhaps in the future when we have the means maybe we can easily explain it. For now we just have to listen to people and their unique experiences in dealing with other signs, and from there we can draw our own conclusions and apply it to our own betterment.
Now to say, that Scorp-Lib relationship doesn't work, it could be true to some but NOT ABSOLUTELY TRUE FOR ALL. And even if we are born under such a sign or certain planets influencing us, we shouldn't discount the fact that environment also affects us. And we are humans after all, we have our own freewill so it's up to us to decide on what our fate would be with the sun sign we are in a relationship with.
Astrology is a GUIDE for us, not the BE ALL and END ALL.
In Addition:
IMHO, astrology is still a science. During the ancient times people try to observe (Observation is science) and record the arrangement of stars, astrology just branch out into astronomy and astrological-mysticism because people nowadays have the technology to explain the stars and the planets motion,thus giving us astronomy. But the influence of stars and planets to human behavior is so complex that it is unquantifiable statistically. I know ewashington7000 knows that even the "Duality Principle of Light" is unexplainable to physicists.
My point is, that one thing about Astrology is still unexplainable but perhaps in the future when we have the means maybe we can easily explain it. For now we just have to listen to people and their unique experiences in dealing with other signs, and from there we can draw our own conclusions and apply it to our own betterment.
...it might be in your best interest to re-read my comments and responses, since you clearly completely missed not only what I was saying, but truthfully anything about me or how I am. I am not and was not ever "pissed off" (or even anything stronger than mildly amused) because someone on the DXP forum doesn't "get" me or understand where I'm coming from, or chooses to interpret my words the way they want.
I never said I adore ALL Scorps, and you're certainly becoming quite the pill -- but I'm not the one spreading negativity, except in fed-up response to the attention-whore antics of your obsessive and psychotic Scorp girly-pal who's trying to spread herself too thin between too many men who are not the one she's supposedly committed to.
So DO try to have a good day, Gloomy Gus! Ta! 🙂
I never said I adore ALL Scorps, and you're certainly becoming quite the pill -- but I'm not the one spreading negativity, except in fed-up response to the attention-whore antics of your obsessive and psychotic Scorp girly-pal who's trying to spread herself too thin between too many men who are not the one she's supposedly committed to.
So DO try to have a good day, Gloomy Gus! Ta! 🙂
* people are socialized through experiences, evolution, learning etc. to behave in certain ways, and this largely by human choices or efforts.
I would be wary of using evolution to explain human behaviour but otherwise I agree. Though you missed a
* And for this, I have been crucified.
That seems unfair. I think your posts are poignant and interesting. I, for one, appreciate the differing perspectives.
* Where I am, the 'real world' consists of folk blowing themselves up into tiny pieces every other week, being mindful of mortar rounds, or engaging an enemy, even in consistent 120 degree plus weather. Is this the 'real world' that you live in as well? Perhaps this all in my head.
Perspective is the dictator of reality. To say that there is one 'real world' is to say there is one 'perspective' and one 'truth'. Even within this conversation, there are many truths as each views the 'real world' through their own experience and perspective. What I experience in this conversation is not what you experience in this conversation. Our truths therefore must be different. And from that, we must conclude there is more than one 'real world'.
But seriously dude .... you got to stop trying to steal my rational thunder.
I would be wary of using evolution to explain human behaviour but otherwise I agree. Though you missed a
* And for this, I have been crucified.
That seems unfair. I think your posts are poignant and interesting. I, for one, appreciate the differing perspectives.
* Where I am, the 'real world' consists of folk blowing themselves up into tiny pieces every other week, being mindful of mortar rounds, or engaging an enemy, even in consistent 120 degree plus weather. Is this the 'real world' that you live in as well? Perhaps this all in my head.
Perspective is the dictator of reality. To say that there is one 'real world' is to say there is one 'perspective' and one 'truth'. Even within this conversation, there are many truths as each views the 'real world' through their own experience and perspective. What I experience in this conversation is not what you experience in this conversation. Our truths therefore must be different. And from that, we must conclude there is more than one 'real world'.
But seriously dude .... you got to stop trying to steal my rational thunder.
Ha! I got distracted.
* Though you missed a
Though you missed a key element in the process of socialization which is the influence both seen and unseen of society itself.
* Though you missed a
Though you missed a key element in the process of socialization which is the influence both seen and unseen of society itself.
lol Mr Nice you tell it how it is!!🙂
Nefer beat it. Mr Nice as called your bluff!! blah blah blah....about time someone tell you about yourself!!
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