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This topic was created in the Libra forum by ammorocks on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 and has 35 replies.

How Libra Relationships Typically Evolve Over Time

In long-term Libra relationships, balance and mutual effort are important. While initial dating may involve some mystery, partners often appreciate more initiative once they feel comfortable. Communication about needs and expectations can help both partners feel valued and understood as the relationship progresses.

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

So, first I have to say I love all of you guys, Libras, Taurans, Aquas, maybe even some Scorps 🙂

So, most of the questions on this board are about "getting to know" Libras. My question pertains to the aftermath.

Once you've been with someone for some time (say 10 months) and things are going well, does the "don't call me, let me wonder, I'll call you if I'm interested" still apply? Or would you like for your partner to take some initiative.

Currently, I sometimes take initiative, when I REALLY feel like seeing my boy and he hasn't made plans for us. Mostly, though, I still let him call. And he calls often. I'm just wondering if he might wish I made more effort at this point - now that we're both more comfortable with each other.

Thoughts?

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@houstonpeach74
20 Years5,000+ Posts

After 10 months, your lines of communication should be open enough that he would be comfortable enough to tell you that he wants you to put more effort into calling him.

Men aren't the phone type - so I bet he's glad that you leave it to him to call. If there's a lot of trust between the two of you, I think you should stand by the old saying of "If it's not broken, don't fix it". 🙂

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

Yes, I'm feeling like I have free reign, yet I'm holding back because of the pattern we've gotten into.

What I really want to know is whether or not you secretly want your partner to call you more at this point if you've been the leader. I am the queen of secretly wanting him to call...which is a lot of the reason why I let him!

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@Libra
20 Years1,000+ Posts

You have to meet in the middle. We're not too good at complaining. So he might hold back if there is a change in your frequency of calling.

Libra does not mind doing the calling (the hard work) if the end result is positive. We do what it takes to keep the status quo.

But will adore you for picking up the phone and making a suggestion.

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

LOL! You have some experience with that!! I really want to do it this week, while he's at work and can't pick up (he ALWAYS answers when I can otherwise). I'm just not sure what to say. Maybe a bathtub or hottub reference...he likes that kind of thing.

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@Libra
20 Years1,000+ Posts

I'd love an I Love You - from the person that I love...

But an I Am In Love With You is perhaps even more powerful and also more vulnerable (it may not last) and perhaps also more charming?

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@Libra
20 Years1,000+ Posts

We basically act to bring things back to the 50/50 line. If you never say I love you I will demand you say it, so that we're equal (assuming I have said it)...

Based on feeling and gut, we bring the relationship always back to the 50/50 line where to people reveal an equal amount of their feelings and two give & take an equal amount.

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

So, I'm guessing if he hasn't said "I love you" (other than during sex) I should keep hinting until he does...in order to keep the 50/50. I don't want to say it and have him not be ready!

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@Libra
20 Years1,000+ Posts

Saying 'I Love You' does NOT occur to him. And he is not expecting you to say it - that thought does not occur to him either - but if you do say it he'll be very happy and only then he will realise how nice that is....

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@houstonpeach74
20 Years5,000+ Posts

It doesn't really occur to them because when someone says "I Love You" to them, it's almost as they think to themselves "Of course you do"...because it's their charm and magnetism that drew you close to begin with. It's almost a given when you tell them "I love you" albeit it makes them feel good.

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@Libra
20 Years1,000+ Posts

I know, HP...:-)

We don't need to hear it because we look for the hints and that feeds the needs, I guess. Although I loved it when it was said to me. We can be taught, but the default package comes without...

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

Yeah, I'm really just trying to distract myself with games. I don't play games to be cruel, but I do enjoy finding out things in a round about way. It makes it more interesting for me.

Here's my thing. I am afraid that if I say it, he will misinterpret it to mean "I want to get married." OR, he will assume that I have a long list of expectations that go along with those words as some women do. So, I think I'll casually bring up the subject in a conversation and let him know what saying those words means to me. I'm pretty sure he takes them pretty seriously.

LS - I agree with you, I say it to friends, family, etc. all of the time. But it's not the same thing as saying it to an intimate partner in my mind.

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@houstonpeach74
20 Years5,000+ Posts

Ammo, wait for Valentines Day. At this point, there's no such thing as you saying this casually. At least on Valentines Day you have a gooey excuse for saying it, but still meaning it.

So what if he doesn't say he loves you back? You want him to say it when he's ready, not when he feels he should say it to be reciprocated.

When you say it, just say those 3 words, "I Love You" and that's it. Don't work into it and don't try to explain those words - plain and simple. Just don't get upset or hurt if he doesn't say it back right away. Remember, Libras are about balance. Saying something they aren't expecting throws them off balance - so let him evaluate and analyze (another thing they're good at) what you said. If he comes back to you and says it back to you eventually, awesome. If not, watch his actions. Usually their actions speak louder than words.

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

Yeah, it will come out naturally for me. I'm not going to plan it at all. Actually I'm not even sure he celebrates Valentine's Day - being from another culture. But I'm going to get him some flowers or something basic, because I do! A holiday for lovers - what could be better than that?

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

I know, what I meant to say is that I'm going to stop planning it and thinking about it and just say it the next time I really feel like saying it instead of holding back.

I am in a funky situation with my work right now - I'm on the verge of leaving and I'm miserable here, so this is what I do when things are miserable in one part of my life. I make up another part that can keep me occupied, entertained and feeling good so that it's not so tough to handle. I just have to watch it, though, because sometimes it can get me in trouble.

Crazy twins!!

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@yattayattahey
20 Years

I somewhat agree with Libra. 50/50 split. After 10 months, I would think the phone wouldn't be an issue at all, although like you, ammo...I like being called at first. It's only ladylike. But after that span of time, things should be a bit more established (in Libra-speak...equal)? If not, there could be more going on than who is calling who.

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@ammorocks
19 YearsGemini

You're right yatta. Things are more established and I do call, I was mostly wondering if it might bother him that I let him call me much more often.