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25 of the 34 indictments were against 13 Russian internet trolls (no collusion, and nothing different that David Brock"s Media Matters does) and 22 Russian intelligence officers (as claimed by the DOJ).

In the case of the Russian intelligence officers, the hacking of the DNC is alleged (Seth Rich anyone). Naming intelligence officers who would NOT be extradited to th US is laughable--but imagine the freak out if they did come back and demand discovery.

Manafort, Gates, and Cohen are shady. Cohen especially is a scumbag. They have done things that warrant prosecution, but still nothing about collusion. I'd take anything Cohen says at this point with scepticism.

Pinedo, Patten, and van der Zwann have no direct link to Trump.

So we're down to Flynn, Stone, and Papadapolis.

These three are indicted for process crimes. Dont get me wrong, those can be serious.

Let's take a look.

Papadapolis it could be argued was a victim entrapment.

Flynn was threatened with his son, and the charge is arguable, because his dealings with Kislyak were in his role during transition.

Stone will be interesting.

Per NPR:

"As NPR's Philip Ewing and Tamara Keith note, the indictment is the first to charge an American in relation to the theft and release of stolen Democratic Party emails. Moreover, "it shows Mueller wants to try to prove that at least one person in the Trump campaign's orbit colluded with Russian's election interference." "

Note the part in bold. One, just one potential allegation of collusion. And that's debatable because its related to the Wikileaks drop of DNC emails (Seth Rich anyone?).

But, back to the OP.

After there is no collusion, off to the next media sponsored "Two Minutes Hate" as a reason for impeachment.

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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Cause the real numbers and graphs prove otherwise. Obviously trump was going to hurt the economy but last year we could actually finally see it. Stocks have taken major blows, government shutdown, tariff bs, which is really hurting American car companies. In fact trump might be the nail in the coffin for GM. They had to scrap their automatic car model because if his shit.😒

I hope they can bring it back later. But even after trump is out, we're going to have to have a smart plan to avoid another recession. But hey, if not, at least my generation is used to it. 🤦


Now you’re just way off. Stock market hasn’t sunk below 22000 since Trump took office. Go look at DJ in the past 5 years.


No they dropped crazy low, I want to say a month or two ago. I'll have to check exact date as time feels drunk under this administration and there's so much going on. But there was a definite drop and sequential panic, to be expected ofc. I don't know where it stands atm but I can check. However again numbers don't lie, our economy is not on the rise.

And fyi statistically the economy tends to drop under Republican presidents. At least the past few.


Go check and report back. You’ll find out that you are incorrect


https://thehill.com/policy/finance/422314-stocks-sink-after-fed-hike-shutdown-chaos

Compared to the Great Depression...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/deficit-projected-to-top-1-trillion-starting-next-year-1531950742 Budget deficits



And here's a nice vid summing up the entire problem of our economy and the trump administration's devastating effect on it.

I guess I'm correct after all, but ofc I am, since I'm using actual facts and numbers and not regurgitating whatever I heard on mainstream news.


What are you flapping about now?

You’ve already been schooled in this area. You are talking about a 2 month drop. Not a 2 year drop. It didn’t even go 2k less than when it first started climbing. Go away


Lol this is the best attempt at denial and backpedaling you got bro? Try harder.

And try watching the vid, I know actual facts are overwhelming to you but it's worth a watch really. Cause it applies to you, unless you're a wealthy millionaire/billionaire.


Lmao. TYT has been debunked like a million times in the past year alone. Shitty use of reference


That statement alone is illogical but please provide evidence to your claim and not subjective opinion.


Use something legitimate and I will. As soon as I saw TYT I immediately quit watching.


Lol ok again brilliant example of denial. I don't understand why you post things and expect anyone to take you seriously with responses like this. Have fun stumbling around in the dark.😂


TYT is an openly and self admitted biased (not even news) commentary. You’ve shed light on nothing and everyone who watched that is now stupider 😂


Yep they have a political leaning as do most people....but they always state facts, accurate reporting and represent the full perspective of the situation and context. I think the only one that comes off as stupid is the one that says "I saw it was (this source I don't like) so I'm not even going to watch". To be seen as competent in refuting information you must actually look at the opposing response then break it down factually. I know this is lost on you but I'll explain anyway.

Though I suppose you could get a pass for Fox News or Breitbart lol


Did you read the link? Their truth rating is 45 out of 180. That means only 25% of the shit they say is truthful. Please stop debating this


Lol!

That website is not credible. Besides bias does not mean you're not accurate or truthful. Whatcha got next, an info wars source?


It’s legit. They rank all media news sources.

Just FYI, TYT is like 3rd from the bottom
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Oh yah "legit" and I'm the Dutchess of Norway lol

Anyway regardless of your opinion of tyt that video is based on factual reporting as well as the other links I posted. This administration has caused major detriment to our economy, and the worst of it is still likely to come, this is fact.
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Cause the real numbers and graphs prove otherwise. Obviously trump was going to hurt the economy but last year we could actually finally see it. Stocks have taken major blows, government shutdown, tariff bs, which is really hurting American car companies. In fact trump might be the nail in the coffin for GM. They had to scrap their automatic car model because if his shit.😒

I hope they can bring it back later. But even after trump is out, we're going to have to have a smart plan to avoid another recession. But hey, if not, at least my generation is used to it. 🤦


Now you’re just way off. Stock market hasn’t sunk below 22000 since Trump took office. Go look at DJ in the past 5 years.


No they dropped crazy low, I want to say a month or two ago. I'll have to check exact date as time feels drunk under this administration and there's so much going on. But there was a definite drop and sequential panic, to be expected ofc. I don't know where it stands atm but I can check. However again numbers don't lie, our economy is not on the rise.

And fyi statistically the economy tends to drop under Republican presidents. At least the past few.


Go check and report back. You’ll find out that you are incorrect


https://thehill.com/policy/finance/422314-stocks-sink-after-fed-hike-shutdown-chaos

Compared to the Great Depression...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/deficit-projected-to-top-1-trillion-starting-next-year-1531950742 Budget deficits



And here's a nice vid summing up the entire problem of our economy and the trump administration's devastating effect on it.

I guess I'm correct after all, but ofc I am, since I'm using actual facts and numbers and not regurgitating whatever I heard on mainstream news.


What are you flapping about now?

You’ve already been schooled in this area. You are talking about a 2 month drop. Not a 2 year drop. It didn’t even go 2k less than when it first started climbing. Go away


Lol this is the best attempt at denial and backpedaling you got bro? Try harder.

And try watching the vid, I know actual facts are overwhelming to you but it's worth a watch really. Cause it applies to you, unless you're a wealthy millionaire/billionaire.


Lmao. TYT has been debunked like a million times in the past year alone. Shitty use of reference


That statement alone is illogical but please provide evidence to your claim and not subjective opinion.


Use something legitimate and I will. As soon as I saw TYT I immediately quit watching.


Lol ok again brilliant example of denial. I don't understand why you post things and expect anyone to take you seriously with responses like this. Have fun stumbling around in the dark.😂


TYT is an openly and self admitted biased (not even news) commentary. You’ve shed light on nothing and everyone who watched that is now stupider 😂


Yep they have a political leaning as do most people....but they always state facts, accurate reporting and represent the full perspective of the situation and context. I think the only one that comes off as stupid is the one that says "I saw it was (this source I don't like) so I'm not even going to watch". To be seen as competent in refuting information you must actually look at the opposing response then break it down factually. I know this is lost on you but I'll explain anyway.

Though I suppose you could get a pass for Fox News or Breitbart lol


Did you read the link? Their truth rating is 45 out of 180. That means only 25% of the shit they say is truthful. Please stop debating this


Lol!

That website is not credible. Besides bias does not mean you're not accurate or truthful. Whatcha got next, an info wars source?


It’s legit. They rank all media news sources.

Just FYI, TYT is like 3rd from the bottom


Oh yah "legit" and I'm the Dutchess of Norway lol

Anyway regardless of your opinion of tyt that video is based on factual reporting as well as the other links I posted. This administration has caused major detriment to our economy, and the worst of it is still likely to come, this is fact.
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So now you’re trying to discredit a non biased fact checking website in hopes of being correct?
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Some points:

25 of the 34 indictments were against 13 Russian internet trolls (no collusion, and nothing different that David Brock"s Media Matters does) and 22 Russian intelligence officers (as claimed by the DOJ).

In the case of the Russian intelligence officers, the hacking of the DNC is alleged (Seth Rich anyone). Naming intelligence officers who would NOT be extradited to th US is laughable--but imagine the freak out if they did come back and demand discovery.

Manafort, Gates, and Cohen are shady. Cohen especially is a scumbag. They have done things that warrant prosecution, but still nothing about collusion. I'd take anything Cohen says at this point with scepticism.

Pinedo, Patten, and van der Zwann have no direct link to Trump.

So we're down to Flynn, Stone, and Papadapolis.

These three are indicted for process crimes. Dont get me wrong, those can be serious.

Let's take a look.

Papadapolis it could be argued was a victim entrapment.

Flynn was threatened with his son, and the charge is arguable, because his dealings with Kislyak were in his role during transition.

Stone will be interesting.

Per NPR:

"As NPR's Philip Ewing and Tamara Keith note, the indictment is the first to charge an American in relation to the theft and release of stolen Democratic Party emails. Moreover, "it shows Mueller wants to try to prove that at least one person in the Trump campaign's orbit colluded with Russian's election interference." "

Note the part in bold. One, just one potential allegation of collusion. And that's debatable because its related to the Wikileaks drop of DNC emails (Seth Rich anyone?).

But, back to the OP.

After there is no collusion, off to the next media sponsored "Two Minutes Hate" as a reason for impeachment.




Stone is the closest thing they have and it’s a serious stretch at that. He would have had to pay the Russians to hire WikiLeaks to steal the damn emails to prove collusion at this point.
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Why do you talk the way you do?


Why you hate Trump this much?


I'm asking. For someone who's from California and now lives in Detroit and is apparently competent enough to take care of their father and aunt, why can't you speak in regular sentences? You speak like a foreigner.


Not that is your business.

But acquired dyslexia from brain injury when teenager.
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Acquired full of shit
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Cause the real numbers and graphs prove otherwise. Obviously trump was going to hurt the economy but last year we could actually finally see it. Stocks have taken major blows, government shutdown, tariff bs, which is really hurting American car companies. In fact trump might be the nail in the coffin for GM. They had to scrap their automatic car model because if his shit.😒

I hope they can bring it back later. But even after trump is out, we're going to have to have a smart plan to avoid another recession. But hey, if not, at least my generation is used to it. 🤦


Now you’re just way off. Stock market hasn’t sunk below 22000 since Trump took office. Go look at DJ in the past 5 years.


No they dropped crazy low, I want to say a month or two ago. I'll have to check exact date as time feels drunk under this administration and there's so much going on. But there was a definite drop and sequential panic, to be expected ofc. I don't know where it stands atm but I can check. However again numbers don't lie, our economy is not on the rise.

And fyi statistically the economy tends to drop under Republican presidents. At least the past few.


Go check and report back. You’ll find out that you are incorrect


https://thehill.com/policy/finance/422314-stocks-sink-after-fed-hike-shutdown-chaos

Compared to the Great Depression...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/deficit-projected-to-top-1-trillion-starting-next-year-1531950742 Budget deficits



And here's a nice vid summing up the entire problem of our economy and the trump administration's devastating effect on it.

I guess I'm correct after all, but ofc I am, since I'm using actual facts and numbers and not regurgitating whatever I heard on mainstream news.


What are you flapping about now?

You’ve already been schooled in this area. You are talking about a 2 month drop. Not a 2 year drop. It didn’t even go 2k less than when it first started climbing. Go away


Lol this is the best attempt at denial and backpedaling you got bro? Try harder.

And try watching the vid, I know actual facts are overwhelming to you but it's worth a watch really. Cause it applies to you, unless you're a wealthy millionaire/billionaire.


Lmao. TYT has been debunked like a million times in the past year alone. Shitty use of reference


That statement alone is illogical but please provide evidence to your claim and not subjective opinion.


Use something legitimate and I will. As soon as I saw TYT I immediately quit watching.


Lol ok again brilliant example of denial. I don't understand why you post things and expect anyone to take you seriously with responses like this. Have fun stumbling around in the dark.😂


TYT is an openly and self admitted biased (not even news) commentary. You’ve shed light on nothing and everyone who watched that is now stupider 😂


Yep they have a political leaning as do most people....but they always state facts, accurate reporting and represent the full perspective of the situation and context. I think the only one that comes off as stupid is the one that says "I saw it was (this source I don't like) so I'm not even going to watch". To be seen as competent in refuting information you must actually look at the opposing response then break it down factually. I know this is lost on you but I'll explain anyway.

Though I suppose you could get a pass for Fox News or Breitbart lol


Did you read the link? Their truth rating is 45 out of 180. That means only 25% of the shit they say is truthful. Please stop debating this


Lol!

That website is not credible. Besides bias does not mean you're not accurate or truthful. Whatcha got next, an info wars source?


It’s legit. They rank all media news sources.

Just FYI, TYT is like 3rd from the bottom


Oh yah "legit" and I'm the Dutchess of Norway lol

Anyway regardless of your opinion of tyt that video is based on factual reporting as well as the other links I posted. This administration has caused major detriment to our economy, and the worst of it is still likely to come, this is fact.


So now you’re trying to discredit a non biased fact checking website in hopes of being correct?
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Except I was always correct in the first place. You can't refute the facts and you know it, so this "argument" is all you have. Come back when you can provide evidence in opposition.
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Cause the real numbers and graphs prove otherwise. Obviously trump was going to hurt the economy but last year we could actually finally see it. Stocks have taken major blows, government shutdown, tariff bs, which is really hurting American car companies. In fact trump might be the nail in the coffin for GM. They had to scrap their automatic car model because if his shit.😒

I hope they can bring it back later. But even after trump is out, we're going to have to have a smart plan to avoid another recession. But hey, if not, at least my generation is used to it. 🤦


Now you’re just way off. Stock market hasn’t sunk below 22000 since Trump took office. Go look at DJ in the past 5 years.


No they dropped crazy low, I want to say a month or two ago. I'll have to check exact date as time feels drunk under this administration and there's so much going on. But there was a definite drop and sequential panic, to be expected ofc. I don't know where it stands atm but I can check. However again numbers don't lie, our economy is not on the rise.

And fyi statistically the economy tends to drop under Republican presidents. At least the past few.


Go check and report back. You’ll find out that you are incorrect


https://thehill.com/policy/finance/422314-stocks-sink-after-fed-hike-shutdown-chaos

Compared to the Great Depression...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/deficit-projected-to-top-1-trillion-starting-next-year-1531950742 Budget deficits



And here's a nice vid summing up the entire problem of our economy and the trump administration's devastating effect on it.

I guess I'm correct after all, but ofc I am, since I'm using actual facts and numbers and not regurgitating whatever I heard on mainstream news.


What are you flapping about now?

You’ve already been schooled in this area. You are talking about a 2 month drop. Not a 2 year drop. It didn’t even go 2k less than when it first started climbing. Go away


Lol this is the best attempt at denial and backpedaling you got bro? Try harder.

And try watching the vid, I know actual facts are overwhelming to you but it's worth a watch really. Cause it applies to you, unless you're a wealthy millionaire/billionaire.


Lmao. TYT has been debunked like a million times in the past year alone. Shitty use of reference


That statement alone is illogical but please provide evidence to your claim and not subjective opinion.


Use something legitimate and I will. As soon as I saw TYT I immediately quit watching.


Lol ok again brilliant example of denial. I don't understand why you post things and expect anyone to take you seriously with responses like this. Have fun stumbling around in the dark.😂


TYT is an openly and self admitted biased (not even news) commentary. You’ve shed light on nothing and everyone who watched that is now stupider 😂


Yep they have a political leaning as do most people....but they always state facts, accurate reporting and represent the full perspective of the situation and context. I think the only one that comes off as stupid is the one that says "I saw it was (this source I don't like) so I'm not even going to watch". To be seen as competent in refuting information you must actually look at the opposing response then break it down factually. I know this is lost on you but I'll explain anyway.

Though I suppose you could get a pass for Fox News or Breitbart lol


Did you read the link? Their truth rating is 45 out of 180. That means only 25% of the shit they say is truthful. Please stop debating this


Lol!

That website is not credible. Besides bias does not mean you're not accurate or truthful. Whatcha got next, an info wars source?


It’s legit. They rank all media news sources.

Just FYI, TYT is like 3rd from the bottom


Oh yah "legit" and I'm the Dutchess of Norway lol

Anyway regardless of your opinion of tyt that video is based on factual reporting as well as the other links I posted. This administration has caused major detriment to our economy, and the worst of it is still likely to come, this is fact.


So now you’re trying to discredit a non biased fact checking website in hopes of being correct?


Except I was always correct in the first place. You can't refute the facts and you know it, so this "argument" is all you have. Come back when you can provide evidence in opposition.
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I’m still chuckling at the TYT video and laughed so hard I farted at you saying they always tell the truth when they have the 3rd worst news ratings of anyone
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Why do you talk the way you do?


Why you hate Trump this much?


I'm asking. For someone who's from California and now lives in Detroit and is apparently competent enough to take care of their father and aunt, why can't you speak in regular sentences? You speak like a foreigner.


Not that is your business.

But acquired dyslexia from brain injury when teenager.

Acquired full of shit


Typical of liberal to insult.
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Only liberal when it comes to social issues really but what would you know

You’re full of shit 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️
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Why you hate Trump so much though he made economy great again. Make no sense.


Lol not true. Take your fantasies elsewhere.


How it not true?

Stock up.

GDP good.

Unemployment down.


Why do you talk the way you do?


Why you hate Trump this much?


I'm asking. For someone who's from California and now lives in Detroit and is apparently competent enough to take care of their father and aunt, why can't you speak in regular sentences? You speak like a foreigner.


Not that is your business.

But acquired dyslexia from brain injury when teenager.

Acquired full of shit


I’ve never known anyone with dyslexia to drop full words. Consistently. Brain injuries are variable tho, I can’t say one way or another. I’m as wary as you tho 😂
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He’s doing it on purpose

He’s a troll trying to sound like a foreigner cause he thinks it’s cute