@ItsSupes
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There’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Funnily enough, I had this very discussion with my boyfriend about a year ago.
When he first visited California, on his way back home, he was pulled over for a broken tail light. They asked to search his vehicle, and he told them no. The officer then requested a K-9 unit to come. The dog unit came, had the dog make a round, and it "reacted" to something in his vehicle. An hour later, after all of this, they found nothing at all, and let him go. But the dog "reacting" gave them "probable cause" to physically search his vehicle.
Come to find out, they were pulling over folks with far away out of state licenses, trying to find traffickers.
I'd be pissed if this happened to me.
Posted by nikkistarFunnily enough, I had this very discussion with my boyfriend about a year ago.
When he first visited California, on his way back home, he was pulled over for a broken tail light. They asked to search his vehicle, and he told them no. The officer then requested a K-9 unit to come. The dog unit came, had the dog make a round, and it "reacted" to something in his vehicle. An hour later, after all of this, they found nothing at all, and let him go. But the dog "reacting" gave them "probable cause" to physically search his vehicle.
Come to find out, they were pulling over folks with far away out of state licenses, trying to find traffickers.
I'd be pissed if this happened to me.
He should sue
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarFunnily enough, I had this very discussion with my boyfriend about a year ago.
When he first visited California, on his way back home, he was pulled over for a broken tail light. They asked to search his vehicle, and he told them no. The officer then requested a K-9 unit to come. The dog unit came, had the dog make a round, and it "reacted" to something in his vehicle. An hour later, after all of this, they found nothing at all, and let him go. But the dog "reacting" gave them "probable cause" to physically search his vehicle.
Come to find out, they were pulling over folks with far away out of state licenses, trying to find traffickers.
I'd be pissed if this happened to me.
He should sue
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Not worth it.
Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarFunnily enough, I had this very discussion with my boyfriend about a year ago.
When he first visited California, on his way back home, he was pulled over for a broken tail light. They asked to search his vehicle, and he told them no. The officer then requested a K-9 unit to come. The dog unit came, had the dog make a round, and it "reacted" to something in his vehicle. An hour later, after all of this, they found nothing at all, and let him go. But the dog "reacting" gave them "probable cause" to physically search his vehicle.
Come to find out, they were pulling over folks with far away out of state licenses, trying to find traffickers.
I'd be pissed if this happened to me.
He should sue
Not worth it.
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It’s why shit like that keeps happening
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarFunnily enough, I had this very discussion with my boyfriend about a year ago.
When he first visited California, on his way back home, he was pulled over for a broken tail light. They asked to search his vehicle, and he told them no. The officer then requested a K-9 unit to come. The dog unit came, had the dog make a round, and it "reacted" to something in his vehicle. An hour later, after all of this, they found nothing at all, and let him go. But the dog "reacting" gave them "probable cause" to physically search his vehicle.
Come to find out, they were pulling over folks with far away out of state licenses, trying to find traffickers.
I'd be pissed if this happened to me.
He should sue
Not worth it.
It’s why shit like that keeps happening
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No, it keeps happening because Americans don't know their constitutional rights. Had it have been me, in this particular situation, I would have immediately said something about calling the K-9 unit in, and what his probable cause was, for requesting a search in the first place.
A broken tail light, is not enough justification to require either of those.
My boyfriend just sees it as "no big deal" himself.
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
There is no scene of arguing the k 9 it’s already case law
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There’s no probable cause to call a K9.
Posted by TheRabbitIt keeps happening because people keep voting for politicians who gas light them into thinking the police are there to protect you.
No, it keeps happening because people are voting for assholes who don’t give a crap about your constitutional rights
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupesPosted by TheRabbitIt keeps happening because people keep voting for politicians who gas light them into thinking the police are there to protect you.
No, it keeps happening because people are voting for assholes who don’t give a crap about your constitutional rights
Same thing.
People have been convinced they need to give up liberties in the name of "protection".
The police aren't there to protect you.
They're there to protect those in power from us.
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It’s horseshit.
Posted by Impulsvhttps://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-use-drug-dogs/
The don’t need a reasonable suspicion
Let alone pc
If the traffic stop was legit
If not then u have a case
It’s a traffic stop, not a drug search
Posted by PontusIf have nothing to hide it is not big deal. Let police search.
As much right wing radical shit as you post I can’t believe you just said that
Posted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
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What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by ItsSupesPosted by Impulsvhttps://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-use-drug-dogs/
The don’t need a reasonable suspicion
Let alone pc
If the traffic stop was legit
If not then u have a case
It’s a traffic stop, not a drug search
It’s law it’s what they are ready determined if it’s a legit stop cops can call in a dog
So what are you arguing you don’t like it
Then change the Supreme Court who have decided on case law already
But keep at for your thread
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If I had enough money to hire a team of lawyers to bring suit against the Supreme Court, I would
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
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I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
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This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Posted by ImpulsvYou can’t pick n chose ur laws ssups
Who is picking and choosing?
Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
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Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
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Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
Posted by ImpulsvI guess this thread is hypothetical vs what is
I’ll bounce lol
I asked what people thought about it. You’ve stated law (which we all know exists) and now you’re upset because you’re not stating your opinion?
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
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What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by ImpulsvI guess this thread is hypothetical vs what is
I’ll bounce lol
I asked what people thought about it. You’ve stated law (which we all know exists) and now you’re upset because you’re not stating your opinion?
I'll just leave this here...
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by AfternoonDelights22idk but ironically
They got you equally as shook
Makes thread and must be shook. Got it
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Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
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Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by ImpulsvI guess this thread is hypothetical vs what is
I’ll bounce lol
I asked what people thought about it. You’ve stated law (which we all know exists) and now you’re upset because you’re not stating your opinion?
I'll just leave this here...
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by AfternoonDelights22idk but ironically
They got you equally as shook
Makes thread and must be shook. Got it
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How am I shook?
You’re the one race baiting. I’m asking a question and getting opinions. You’re the only shook one here
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
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Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
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So you’re saying that you believe it should be unconstitutional?
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
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This is my specific input.
You can call it race bait all you want.
Just goes to show my original point. You didn't gaf when other americans rights are being violated by cops. Just when your rights are 'violated'.
Very telling.
Posted by NeshamaPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
Probable cause yes...but the level of suspicion needed differs from person to home to car etc ...
And probable cause can be you just ..'acting funny' 'being the wrong race ' etc ..or being someone they already know to have previous.
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We aren't talking about a residence here. Probable cause can be an alert from a K-9 dog on a vehicle.
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
So you’re saying that you believe it should be unconstitutional?
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What? I don't get this line of questioning.
I am giving what I believe are factual laws that are in place, between a search warrant, versus probable cause that allows for a search in a vehicle.
No where in that statement, did I say anything about it being constitutional or my belief it should be unconstitutional.
That is for the Supreme Court to determine. Citizens, just should know what their legal constitutional rights are.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
This is my specific input.
You can call it race bait all you want.
Just goes to show my original point. You didn't gaf when other americans rights are being violated by cops. Just when your rights are 'violated'.
Very telling.
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90% of those videos we people committing crimes. A few wasn’t. And the ones who wasn’t encountered a serious travesty. There’s no disputing that.
If the police tells me to exit my vehicle, IM GOING TO EXIT THE VEHICLE. I’ll bust his ass in court, like you’re supposed to.
Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
So you’re saying that you believe it should be unconstitutional?
What? I don't get this line of questioning.
I am giving what I believe are factual laws that are in place, between a search warrant, versus probable cause that allows for a search in a vehicle.
No where in that statement, did I say anything about it being constitutional or my belief it should be unconstitutional.
That is for the Supreme Court to determine. Citizens, just should know what their legal constitutional rights are.
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I’m asking a question here. Not asking for law.
Do you believe that it should be unconstitutional?
No search means NO SEARCH! Even with a dog because that dog is searching your vehicle
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
So you’re saying that you believe it should be unconstitutional?
What? I don't get this line of questioning.
I am giving what I believe are factual laws that are in place, between a search warrant, versus probable cause that allows for a search in a vehicle.
No where in that statement, did I say anything about it being constitutional or my belief it should be unconstitutional.
That is for the Supreme Court to determine. Citizens, just should know what their legal constitutional rights are.
I’m asking a question here. Not asking for law.
Do you believe that it should be unconstitutional?
No search means NO SEARCH! Even with a dog because that dog is searching your vehicle
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By the laws in place (from what I know), as long as it is within a certain time period, which I believe is an hour, which would be the time it would take for an officer to do a computer search on the vehicle, as well as write a ticket, and the K-9 unit is able to come and go around the vehicle, during that time, then they can do so. (AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG HERE)
They just can't enter your vehicle and search it, without probable cause. If the dog does not alert, then they cannot search the interior of your vehicle. The dog can, walk around your vehicle however. Even if the person "acts" suspicious, without an actual alert by the dog, the vehicle cannot be searched because probable cause has not been proven. Only if the officer conducts a search, without that alert, would it be unconstitutional.
That is not an argument about constitutional or not. My story about my bf, and why I believe it was unconstitutional was because his was out of that time frame of an hour. It took the K-9 unit a lot longer than that, to get there, and I believe the "alert" was a false alert, and was simply used to gain access to the interior of his car. They took an hour to search the vehicle, but PRIOR to that, it took them about an hour and a half to two hours to get the K-9 unit out to the side of the road. Him waiting almost 3 hours on the side of the road for the search to be completed, is what was an issue for me, and what I believe is unconstitutional based on my own knowledge, though I can say that I may be misinformed on the time frame police are allowed. And the "false alert" is my opinion, not an actual fact that I can prove.
Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupesPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by ItsSupesThere’s absolutely no reason for any police to go rummaging around in your vehicle
Well technically there are valid reasons to search someone's vehicle, but if the person hasen't done anything other than get stopped for a minor traffic violation I do think it's overstepping the boundary to call for a search.
Now if the police have a reasonable reason to search the vehicle (ex: smell of rotting flesh coming from your trunk) then I think it's a justified.
Then a damn search warrant needs to be obtained
Actually, no they don't need a search warrant. They just need probably cause, and that can an alert from a k-9 unit.
The only stipulation they would need is to be able to have a search done in a time frame that it would take to do a computer search and a ticket. Which is probably at most an hour, if they want to be right cunts about it.
Not saying it doesn't suck, and it wouldn't piss me the fuck off. But, there is a lot of maneuvering around, that the police can do.
At least that's what I know, and I could be wrong. lol
So you’re saying that you believe it should be unconstitutional?
What? I don't get this line of questioning.
I am giving what I believe are factual laws that are in place, between a search warrant, versus probable cause that allows for a search in a vehicle.
No where in that statement, did I say anything about it being constitutional or my belief it should be unconstitutional.
That is for the Supreme Court to determine. Citizens, just should know what their legal constitutional rights are.
I’m asking a question here. Not asking for law.
Do you believe that it should be unconstitutional?
No search means NO SEARCH! Even with a dog because that dog is searching your vehicle
By the laws in place (from what I know), as long as it is within a certain time period, which I believe is an hour, which would be the time it would take for an officer to do a computer search on the vehicle, as well as write a ticket, and the K-9 unit is able to come and go around the vehicle, during that time, then they can do so. (AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG HERE)
They just can't enter your vehicle and search it, without probable cause. If the dog does not alert, then they cannot search the interior of your vehicle. The dog can, walk around your vehicle however. Even if the person "acts" suspicious, without an actual alert by the dog, the vehicle cannot be searched because probable cause has not been proven. Only if the officer conducts a search, without that alert, would it be unconstitutional.
That is not an argument about constitutional or not. My story about my bf, and why I believe it was unconstitutional was because his was out of that time frame of an hour. It took the K-9 unit a lot longer than that, to get there, and I believe the "alert" was a false alert, and was simply used to gain access to the interior of his car. They took an hour to search the vehicle, but PRIOR to that, it took them about an hour and a half to two hours to get the K-9 unit out to the side of the road. Him waiting almost 3 hours on the side of the road for the search to be completed, is what was an issue for me, and what I believe is unconstitutional based on my own knowledge, though I can say that I may be misinformed on the time frame police are allowed. And the "false alert" is my opinion, not an actual fact that I can prove.
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Jeez. Nvm. Missing the point
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
This is my specific input.
You can call it race bait all you want.
Just goes to show my original point. You didn't gaf when other americans rights are being violated by cops. Just when your rights are 'violated'.
Very telling.
90% of those videos we people committing crimes. A few wasn’t. And the ones who wasn’t encountered a serious travesty. There’s no disputing that.
If the police tells me to exit my vehicle, IM GOING TO EXIT THE VEHICLE. I’ll bust his ass in court, like you’re supposed to.
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WRONG
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
This is my specific input.
You can call it race bait all you want.
Just goes to show my original point. You didn't gaf when other americans rights are being violated by cops. Just when your rights are 'violated'.
Very telling.
90% of those videos we people committing crimes. A few wasn’t. And the ones who wasn’t encountered a serious travesty. There’s no disputing that.
If the police tells me to exit my vehicle, IM GOING TO EXIT THE VEHICLE. I’ll bust his ass in court, like you’re supposed to.
WRONG
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Gonna argue over a few percent?
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesLet’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do
Only if you aren't a 'scary' black man. Amiright
What does race have to do with this?
Quit trying to gaslight
I find it ironic that your defense of police shooting unarmed black men is always "well they should've been more respectful, they should've followed directions".
Look how your tune changes when it comes down to your rights.
This is ANYONES rights. And yes, don’t be cursing, getting irate and saying fuck the police with a gun in your hand. Probably won’t get shot
Just punch them, right? Cause that worked out GREAT for you.
You know damn well these men did not curse at the police. They followed instructions to the T and were still shot down. Whose gas lighting now?
What’s that have to do with my topic? Go make your own thread about violence against blacks. This isn’t a racial thread like you’re wanting it to be
Let me spell it out for you.
You can't be offended that cops are quote "doing their job" when it comes to your rights.
But then be dismissive of Black Americans losing their lives from trigger happy cops because quote "they are just doing their job".
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hence, rights being violated.
I’m asking specific input.
Go race bait somewhere else
This is my specific input.
You can call it race bait all you want.
Just goes to show my original point. You didn't gaf when other americans rights are being violated by cops. Just when your rights are 'violated'.
Very telling.
90% of those videos we people committing crimes. A few wasn’t. And the ones who wasn’t encountered a serious travesty. There’s no disputing that.
If the police tells me to exit my vehicle, IM GOING TO EXIT THE VEHICLE. I’ll bust his ass in court, like you’re supposed to.
WRONG
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Scratch that.........89% of blacks murdered from 2016-2018 were armed. So I was off by 1% . Sorry.
Nobody deserves to die
Did you know, 97.79% of Asians eat dogs?
Posted by nikkistarDid you know, 97.79% of Asians eat dogs?
It’s not bad. I’ve ate it before
Posted by seraphPosted by ItsSupesPosted by nikkistarDid you know, 97.79% of Asians eat dogs?
It’s not bad. I’ve ate it before
I hear it sticks to the woof of your mouth.
I’ll see myself out.
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Kinda stringy and chewy. Not bad though.
Didn’t know I was eating it till it was too late
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Let’s say you get pulled over for speeding, which you were. The officer asked to search your vehicle, which you deny and it’s your right to do so. Then the officer calls for a canine unit to sniff around outside of your vehicle.
Do you think this is unconstitutional in a violation of your rights?
I sure as fuck do