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Half of the country is already funded by "socialist" ideas
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
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Posted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.click to expand
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
Posted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?click to expand
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
So... socialism?
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Posted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?click to expand
Shhhh ...... don’t use your brain, you know no one likes you for your brain 🧠 🍆 💦
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Posted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
I like this gif
Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
So... socialism?
Hardly. Those bills passed to “allot” taxpayer monies are voted on by the people, not the govt.click to expand
So.. let's say Medicare for all is voted in by the people. Is that socialist health care?
Posted by Romz-
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Dickmatism?
Posted by ItsSupes2
I don’t think 90% of people actually know what socialism actually entails. I bet if they were told that they’d no longer have a 401k with socialism, they’d run from it
Can you explain? I don't really understand 401k as it is even though I contribute to mine.
Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
So... socialism?
Hardly. Those bills passed to “allot” taxpayer monies are voted on by the people, not the govt.
So.. let's say Medicare for all is voted in by the people. Is that socialist health care?
That’s not the people. That’s government passing laws that the people didn’t vote on, government officials did.click to expand
The people vote for their reps. The same reps that passed legislation to pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc.
Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2
I don’t think 90% of people actually know what socialism actually entails. I bet if they were told that they’d no longer have a 401k with socialism, they’d run from it
Can you explain? I don't really understand 401k as it is even though I contribute to mine.
With socialism, there is no stock market to invest inclick to expand
There is in a democratic socialist government with a capitalist economy.
Posted by DrinkWaterPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
So... socialism?
That isn't socialism, thats just good government policies looking after its people but inside a capitalist system (liberal policies). In some countrys there are still private company's doing the work, making profit off the job, on tax payer dollars. Socialism would be if all of the private corporations fell into government ownership, and people are no longer working for themselves, they are working for government. Its not really a good system, people don't want to work for no returns or to have their returns given to the reigns of the government to do as they please. The government is always corrupt, wtf would we give them more power over us than they already have.
Btw the current capitalist model is just as bad, basically giving rich corporations the same power that communism gives the government. At least there is an opportunity to work your way up in this model.click to expand
Nobody is wanting all corps under government control though. Who wants that?
Imma leave this thread until someone can tell me the difference between Socialism and A Democratic socialist.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.click to expand
Reinforcing my earlier observation! To simplify a somewhat complex subject matter...while all ducks are birds; not all birds are ducks!
With that said, if one insist on claiming that capitalism has no blood on its hands, you are gravely misguided!
Posted by Romz-
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Capitalism!?
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Posted by BoringPosted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
If you give Venezuela as a defining example of socialism, you neither understand socialism, nor what happened in Venezuela.click to expand
Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
How you figure capitalism hasn't?
Posted by ArgusPosted by Romz-
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Capitalism!?click to expand
Feminism 😉
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
How you figure capitalism hasn't?click to expand
Aren't you from a failed socialist state originally?
Posted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Sure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
How you figure capitalism hasn't?
Aren't you from a failed socialist state originally?click to expand
You are confusing socialism with nationalism.
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by EffortlessPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
How you figure capitalism hasn't?
Aren't you from a failed socialist state originally?
You are confusing socialism with nationalism.click to expand
Nope.
Answer the question, dickhead.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
That's what Dazed was trying to say. Money goes to the state coffers via taxation, which is then used to maintain the country's infrastructure. Socialism at its very basic.
Posted by Ram416Posted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by Argus
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
Socialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Who pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
People who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
That's what Dazed was trying to say. Money goes to the state coffers via taxation, which is then used to maintain the country's infrastructure. Socialism at its very basic.click to expand
Eh, you are calling a golf ball a tennis ball here.
Taxation goes back centuries.
I define a government's inclinations toward socialism based on the number of programs it provides to the governed.
ACA is Europe's Socialist Medicine program, and it's bad medicine.
The more involved the US taxpayer's money becomes entangled in needless government spending (waste), the more likely it will be a socialist state.
We aren't quite at the bad levels that Europe is in for socialist programs and the massive debts that come with it, but we are inching our way there (sadly).
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Sure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
click to expand
The USA is trying to overturn Maduro and his Socialist regime.
Before the Venezuelans suffered through Maduro, they had all kinds of Socialist wackos like Chavez ruling over them.
Before Socialism, Venezuela was a flourishing economic power which used natural resources to bolster their economy.
You should educate yourself on what Venezuela was like before the Socialists took over.
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
How you figure capitalism hasn't?click to expand
I find it very hilarious when people point out how socialism has failed, while completely ignoring the various ways capitalism has failed or is failing.
I think a lot of people don't seem to understand that while a system may seem to work on its own in theory, it cannot work in isolation, in practice.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by _Dazed
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Is Sanders a Democratic Socialist?click to expand
He says he is. Is he not as far as his policies go?
True or false?
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
Posted by _Dazed
True or false?
False, and history proves it.
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by _DazedPosted by TheRabbitPosted by _Dazed
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Is Sanders a Democratic Socialist?
He says he is. Is he not as far as his policies go?
He is not. And what you are describing is not Democratic Socialism either.
Sanders is a social democrat and that is what you are describing as well.
Social democracy strives to improve upon, and make up for the failings of, capitalism.
Democratic Socialism still believes in government ownership of the means of production.
click to expand
Thank you. I will research further
Posted by EffortlessPosted by _Dazed
True or false?
False, and history proves it.
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.click to expand
So without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?
Posted by Effortless
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She's not running
Posted by TheRabbit
Somewhere, the actual, classical definition of Democratic Socialism was mixed up with social democracy.
I'm not sure if it's purposeful or not.
Can I ask you this?
Do you want a check on capitalism in general? As it pertains to the rich basically governing the country.
What is that called?
Posted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by _Dazed
True or false?
False, and history proves it.
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.
So without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?click to expand
The state governments are responsible for that.
In Florida, there is no state income tax on area residents since tourism and other similar businesses generate enough tax revenue to sustain what you described.
In other states, they choose to tax their citizens to pay for stuff.
If socialists had their way in Florida (like they nearly did with Gillum trying to become governor), there would be new state income taxes in Florida (and ultimately piss everyone with a brain off).
Posted by _DazedPosted by Effortless
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She's not runningclick to expand
The hell she isn't.
She is being quiet about it, but it's going to happen.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by _DazedPosted by Effortless
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She's not running
Once she murders everyone else, she'll be the only one left.click to expand
🤣
Common. The McDougals aren't dead.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EffortlessPosted by _Dazed
True or false?
False, and history proves it.
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.
So without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?
The state governments are responsible for that.
In Florida, there is no state income tax on area residents since tourism and other similar businesses generate enough tax revenue to sustain what you described.
In other states, they choose to tax their citizens to pay for stuff.
If socialists had their way in Florida (like they nearly did with Gillum trying to become governor), there would be new state income taxes in Florida (and ultimately piss everyone with a brain off).click to expand
Yet Florida is a blue state...
Interesting analysis
Posted by _DazedPosted by TheRabbitPosted by _DazedPosted by Effortless
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She's not running
Once she murders everyone else, she'll be the only one left.
🤣
Common. The McDougals aren't dead.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessPosted by _DazedPosted by Effortless
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She's not running
The hell she isn't.
She is being quiet about it, but it's going to happen.click to expand
Let's make a bet
Posted by EffortlessPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Sure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
The USA is trying to overturn Maduro and his Socialist regime.
Before the Venezuelans suffered through Maduro, they had all kinds of Socialist wackos like Chavez ruling over them.
Before Socialism, Venezuela was a flourishing economic power which used natural resources to bolster their economy.
You should educate yourself on what Venezuela was like before the Socialists took over.click to expand
Talk to an actual Venezuelan. Or just
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