Posted by ShadowcatDepression is no joke .. it's a disease , I've seen friends & boyfriends suffer from it .. it affected me a great deal .. it sucks when there is not much u can do but u keep helping & helping - in the end the person has to help themselves ugh ?
Ironic that you've posted this tonight. Around this time last year a drunk guy stopped me from committing suicide. My depression hit hard again this weekend and my good friend(plus pushing from my taurus) made me spend the night with him. It's hard some nights.
But dealing with another person's depression is about as far from a walk in the park you can get. The effects our pain can have on others is heartbreaking. I can understand why many people would prefer to not see.
Posted by halalbabe
you cant guilt trip people for not picking up on the warning signs, cause they usually are very ineffective.
im an advocate of a persons right to make their own end of life decisions. but only if they have the strength and depth of character to do right by the people they leave behind. bring your decision to them and die with integrity
not because your pettiness level is 1000 and youre trying to guilt trip someone.
Posted by SassyKiwiyou okay sassy? you joined the chat to talk to someone?Posted by halalbabe
you cant guilt trip people for not picking up on the warning signs, cause they usually are very ineffective.
im an advocate of a persons right to make their own end of life decisions. but only if they have the strength and depth of character to do right by the people they leave behind. bring your decision to them and die with integrity
not because your pettiness level is 1000 and youre trying to guilt trip someone.
That is beyond the point. I'm not sure if I really ever had a strong opinion about suicide, it was what it was... but then curiosity hit me. The suicide prevention lifeline has an online chat feature.. and when you join it.. it has ridiculous wait queues of over 26 people... all waiting to be heard by someone... And these are like separated by local region or something. All these people want is for someone to hear them out because they feel they have no one in their life... it just broke my heart. It shouldn't be like that. They're all desperately crying out.
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Posted by SassyKiwiAs a survior. this is not always true. i attempted when i was 12 and no i did not tell anyone nor did i cry out for help. I was in so much misery and hated my life and everything that happened up until that point that i saw no other option other than to leave, it would stop all the shit from happening to me was my only focus i had in my mind.
Nobody deserves to cry over a loss to suicide. Not a single tear or regret. People don't just commit suicide.. they've always left signs... nobody just bothered listening or paying attention. Like genuinely listening... not listening to force their opinions and thoughts. So don't ever fucking cry over them.
Posted by ShadowcatIs there anyone you care about who's grief for you would make you rethink departure and stay for them?Posted by CAPS_LOCKI never really factored rebirth into it. There are just a lot of times that I frankly want my life to end. It's ending that mattered for me, not anything after.Posted by ShadowcatI was studying philosophy on suicide to get a better understanding why people do it.
Ironic that you've posted this tonight. Around this time last year a drunk guy stopped me from committing suicide. My depression hit hard again this weekend and my good friend(plus pushing from my taurus) made me spend the night with him. It's hard some nights.
But dealing with another person's depression is about as far from a walk in the park you can get. The effects our pain can have on others is heartbreaking. I can understand why many people would prefer to not see.
Hope this makes sense. Its not necessarily the physical part we want to die. But rather our current condition and state spiritually may need to die. It is no longer sufficient for who we want to become. Putting behind our old selves and putting on our new selves. Putting to death what is inadequate and rising from a transformation.
Its similiar to how they talk about Scorpio becoming Phoenix. Or how in the fall all the trees and leaves die off but when Spring comes, they blossom and bear beneficial fruit.
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Posted by DonJohnI eat a lot of meat and low on but D. However at the moment happy I am not!
depression imo has a lot to do with nutrition
if you're vegan or vegetarian, i would suggest you start eating red meat/poultry. get that natural iron. 100% serious. i've cured many depressive personalities in my time due to this suggestion alone.
get your blood work done and find out what you are low on.
Posted by ShadowcatSo— There is your answer!!!Posted by GemitatiEh people? Not really no. Only because I think they'll get better, and ultimately it is my life.Posted by ShadowcatIs there anyone you care about who's grief for you would make you rethink departure and stay for them?Posted by CAPS_LOCKI never really factored rebirth into it. There are just a lot of times that I frankly want my life to end. It's ending that mattered for me, not anything after.Posted by ShadowcatI was studying philosophy on suicide to get a better understanding why people do it.
Ironic that you've posted this tonight. Around this time last year a drunk guy stopped me from committing suicide. My depression hit hard again this weekend and my good friend(plus pushing from my taurus) made me spend the night with him. It's hard some nights.
But dealing with another person's depression is about as far from a walk in the park you can get. The effects our pain can have on others is heartbreaking. I can understand why many people would prefer to not see.
Hope this makes sense. Its not necessarily the physical part we want to die. But rather our current condition and state spiritually may need to die. It is no longer sufficient for who we want to become. Putting behind our old selves and putting on our new selves. Putting to death what is inadequate and rising from a transformation.
Its similiar to how they talk about Scorpio becoming Phoenix. Or how in the fall all the trees and leaves die off but when Spring comes, they blossom and bear beneficial fruit.
Or is it because you care for nothing, want nothing and nothing interests you in this life?
Althohgh when I was on the verge of it during the summer, it was my cat. Only because cats look for dead relatives if they're not present during their demise. She's been with me throughout most of my issues, but she has abandonment issues. I realized that she would just eventually conclude that I abandoned her for someplace else instead of dying.
I still want a lot from life actually. I have goals, people who will rely on me.
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Posted by tizianiA good friend of mine killed himself two Summers ago. It was definitely a spur of the moment thing. He lived in Hawaii for awhile training in MMA. There is a HUGE correlation between concussions and sporadic suicide.
It's a lot wider an issue than your OP or some of the posts here.
Really and truly it only takes a few minutes of your brain going south to end it, in some cases.
Posted by MagicMonaSome people just don't want to be alive. My sisters ex was like that. He had gone through many programs, many medication/doctors, tons of counseling. But he wasn't wanting to be here. And so he finally ended it. I know he wouldn't want people crying and feeling sorry for him.
then you have the selfish ppl who commit suicide anyway, despite them having strong support in friends and family. the ppl who wrongly feel that no one knows what they go through, no one understands, no one loves them, but it's right there in their faces. the ppl who truly gave up because it was the 'easiest' way.
no everyone is oblivious to the struggle and hurt in others. those who slap away the hands that attempt to help them are part of the problem as well.
Posted by heliumfiascoThat's really interesting. My sisters ex (just posted above) was a veteran who was injured multiple times in the field. Worse injury was when he was shot and fell from a helicopter. Was unable to walk for month and was stuck in a German hospital begging them to end it for him.Posted by tizianiA good friend of mine killed himself two Summers ago. It was definitely a spur of the moment thing. He lived in Hawaii for awhile training in MMA. There is a HUGE correlation between concussions and sporadic suicide.
It's a lot wider an issue than your OP or some of the posts here.
Really and truly it only takes a few minutes of your brain going south to end it, in some cases.click to expand
Posted by MagicMonaI don't think it's "reasons" persay, as much as it is damage to the brain. It causes violent mood swings and irrational thoughts and behaviors. I think they're currently trying to discover exactly what the concussions are directly affecting. I'd need to research more indepth on the subject matter to give a better response.Posted by heliumfiascowhat reasons do they have to kill themselves?
Oh there are lots of study's on it. It's pretty much a very wide known thing now. NFL players suicide rates are high too.click to expand
Posted by MrEmptyBackpackPosted by SassyKiwiR u ok
Nobody deserves to cry over a loss to suicide. Not a single tear or regret. People don't just commit suicide.. they've always left signs... nobody just bothered listening or paying attention. Like genuinely listening... not listening to force their opinions and thoughts. So don't ever fucking cry over them.click to expand
Posted by DonJohn
depression imo has a lot to do with nutrition
if you're vegan or vegetarian, i would suggest you start eating red meat/poultry. get that natural iron. 100% serious. i've cured many depressive personalities in my time due to this suggestion alone.
get your blood work done and find out what you are low on.
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