Did anybody see this!!!! Oh my God :(

I couldn't even watch the whole thing it is so unbelievably terrible

I'm sorry, I cannot watch stuff like that. I will cry.

Yeah I know VB not much makes me cry but this was really overwhelming. Hopefully the public outcry from this horrible footage will have a positive effect. Authorities never seem to care unless the media attention and the public put pressure on them to do something.

That's true, I don't understand the horror of this world at times. I really don't. 😢

disturbing but if you're not vegetarian or vegan what does it matter?

No the still image is enough for me...I dont want to know anymore...I've never been able to stomach cruelty!

silly boy, that's messy. they have those gun thingies that blow out the brains in one swift boom. far less bloody and preserves the meat structure.

I'm not a vegetarian tubby, but I was raised in part on a farm. There is definitely a humane, and an inhumane way to dispatch something for consumption.

VB seriously, what does it matter? we authorize our govt to let farmers put enough antibiotics and roids in the meat so that in 50 years, our immune systems will be fuqd. we eat massed produced garbage every single day so that we can keep our prices low.

if americans gave a shit, we'd demand higher standards but if higher standards means that your beef goes from 2.50/pound to 5/pound, all of sudden, it's doesn't appear to be that cruel.

i'm still trying to figure out why chickens are starting to be as big as turkeys?

personally, if you're going to take a stand, stop funding the industry. switch to those expensive and not widely available brands that do it naturally. find a local farmer, go in halfsies with fam and friends and buy a cow. raise your own chickens.

other than that, i think the outrage is hypocritical and i find it offensive. to be outraged and to do nothing is far worse than being blindly ignorant. to know and do nothing? how much ya wanna bet most of you are gonna eat meat within the next 24 hours? yeah, thought so.

I'm not outraged, I'm sickened quite frankly. I am one of the people that fights against and does not support Agri-business. I go to Farmers Markets whenever I can, I garden, preserve, freeze. Whenever I can get my hands on it via friends I take in venison, game. I buy my eggs from a local woman with chickens.
I know the reality of all this, hell I was raised around it. And most of this state runs on the sweat off a farmers brow. I cannot stomach cruelty to man nor beast. This does make me a hypocrite when I tuck in, this makes me AWARE.

Does NOT make me a hypocrite. Damned typos, and I am not going to be a post hider.

you're aware and?

hardly anyone questions the $ 1 hamburger. the economics that go into making that foodstuff a buck AND profitable. i mean think about it really.

99.9% of us support animal cruelty daily. so now that you're aware...what? i dont mean you specifically VB but for the others who are outraged.

as a reformed vegetarian, i make no bones...or steaks about. i like meat! for me, eating meat is a conscious choice and in the end what i'm saying is, i don't care. if i aint killin it, it's all relative.

no such thing as humanely raising an animal to die for human consumption.

I do see your point, truly, but there is definitely a difference between making something suffer and killing it quickly and efficiently. I enjoy meat as well.
Like the hunter in the woods for example. There are those that will track a deer if the first shot went awry and put an end to things, and others that just let the thing flounder around and die in agony. The first is a real hunter, not the second.
Maybe I'm coming at this from seeing it firsthand. I am simply underscoring the fact that I am very conscious of where my food comes from. And I purposefully go out of my way to feed my family with the best I can. And I will go to a farmer first. Usually ones I know well, for my protein sources.

nah vb, i understand. you clearly are doing your best to minimize your contribution to the problem.

most americans don't give a shit even if they exclaim in horror when they see the brutality. they still supersize their value meal without blinking an eye.

That is definitely truth. "Oh me, oh MY, it's awful...why yes, I will have a #4, and can you put extra heart clogger in that? I'd like a cardiac arrest by 50 please."
I personally don't like the Great Golden Tits of America. If that's food, heaven help us all.

i hated it even when i was little. hate those lil booger onions they put on everything.

Among other things. I won't even speak upon what it does to my digestive tract. I haven't eaten there in over 10 years, and when someone suggests it I say "No thanks, anywhere but there."

What a pit Feisty, no wonder you want to leave dust in your wake.

So what..?

Do you ever think of it when you bite your juicy hamburgers..?

Think of humans beings get killed in various —moods?? and —versions?? around the world in the name of American —war on terror—?_!

Do I have to pull up images of those again ....?

What the hell do you have to say about it..??

Fucking morons??_!

Q!!!

Those creatures are in the lists of our food chain, you can not deny your needs for food, red/white meat or vegetables it doesn't matter.

Is there any better way to killing to get what you need..?

Since when you guys get so sensitive about it..? it is food for you and me and alike??_ but hell NO.. you guys reacting on the way of KILLING.. Since when killing is ok.. but not in that way..!

What way do you guys are suggesting..??

My mother and her husband had pigs, geese, ducks, chickens, rabbits and goats. And I will tell you right now and quite plainly that there is a more HUMANE way to dispatch an animal. Torturing an animal or taking your own bloody time to kill something because you're a twisted human being is NOT necessary.
I'd never deny my need for sustenance nor remove meat from my diet.
Example, when C took the rabbits out he took them out one by one. Wicked sharp blade, a glancing blow to the back of the head and sliced through. So quickly the rabbit didn't even know what hit it. Now! Between THAT and someone with a large hutch of screaming rabbits with the scent of blood thick in the air, and death firmly in the nostrils of every one of those poor bastards?! Yes, there is definitely a difference.
Did either mode stop me from tucking into an extremely tasty rabbit dinner? NO, but it certainly changed my viewpoints on things alright. And I find that the older I get, the softer I get on some things and the more intolerant I get on others. And that is one of them. There's no need for it.

unnecessary cruelty of the methods of killing

What method are you suggesting then..?

It is slaughter house and it has its own rules to kill and deliver the food we are gladly pay for it..!

Any spiritual or philosophical thoughts behind their actions is unnecessary and believe me is stupid.! They do the dirty jobs for the majority of us..!

It is food and the guys doing it for US shouldn't be blamed for their methods or what ever..!

I do not deny the validity of your point Q, but by heaven and hell you should also respect mine. Something about you man raises the need for a heated argument and I try quite hard to curb that. Not today. Buckle up.

Something about you man raises the need for a heated argument and I try quite hard to curb that. Not today. Buckle up.

lol

Really??_ I am all for it.. fire up..! or else I??ll do it for you..!

The floor is yours my good man. All yours. I'm standing firm with FIRE in my eyes. Hit me with your best shot.

And where would be your stand..??

You can not deny your need for food but you are protesting the way of killing that food..! Do you really care when you bite your juicy steak that how the owner of the —flesh?? was killed..?

It called double standard??_ mind you!

Take a tour on the chicken slaughter house... see how??s going..!

See the fishermen when they get the full bag og of fishes and how they treat those poor bastards..

It is called DOUBLE STANDARDS.. People doing dirty jobs out there that you can fill your belly up with FOOD and then you criticize their methods ??_

Am I the only stupid around here..??

There is no double standard to me Q, because I do not support that mode of butchery. Come with me, if you will, to a land of many farms. Now, since this area is like this, there are many farmers. Small farmers. Good people that do not run large business that way. And many Amish that do things in the old way. I do not have to procure meat from a market as many do.
My STAND, and my loathing of that method stems not only from seeing it up close and personal growing up, but also from my beliefs as a human being. And I abhor killing for killings sake. YES, I completely understand that it's part of the food chain, and if it runs slower than I do, I will eat it. I get all that. But I am coming at it from my own personal feelings. And as a living, breathing thing that feels pain, the same as you, or I, that it's RUBBISH to drag it out.

And again sir, and AGAIN, ( since we both seem awfully fond of being STUBBORN ASSES ) I raise a good portion of what I eat. And if I don't raise it, I know where to go to get it. YES, I frequent the grocers. For grains, fruits, cereals for the children. But most of it comes from these hands and the hands of farmers in the surrounding area.

Again??_

Some of you get touchy by the images in this video??_! And Aagin.. I am asking would you get same touchy when you se the images of the humans being been slaughtered in the illegal wars conducted by the Americans..??

Guess ??_. NOT..!

Oh I beg to differ sir. I cannot even stand the evening news. The imagery sickens me, because I put myself straight into it. And all the panderings to the sensationalism, the crap, just to shock. I want no part of it. I do not need the monster in my living room, the monster is right outside my door.

By the way, would you like sugar in your tea, or honey? This is getting quite interesting and refreshment is necessary.

What you EAT, is your choice, there are 6,8 billions of others on this planet??_

When I order a food with what ever (meat, flesh) I??ll order it without thinking of how the owner of (the meat/flesh) was killed??_ it is my food and I??ll enjoy the meal without thinking about it.!

Taste is good and its all OK for me..

I hope that it is the same for you too..

Come to the Dark Side Obi-Wan, the venison in the freezer was procured last autumn. Now, there's tea on the table.

By the way, would you like sugar in your tea, or honey? This is getting quite interesting and refreshment is necessary

None..

Tea should taste TEA without any sweeteners and thank you.

I knew I liked you very much for various reasons. I take mine black as well. And you're quite welcome. Cookie?

Posted by Dynamite Parfait

Posted by Qbone
Again??_

Some of you get touchy by the images in this video??_! And Aagin.. I am asking would you get same touchy when you se the images of the humans being been slaughtered in the illegal wars conducted by the Americans..??

Guess ??_. NOT..!

Q, I really like you, I do.

But why must every debate with you eventually turn into an American-bashing extravaganza?

I just don't get it.

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Q, I really like you, I do.

I really like you too , I don't bash Americans why would you think that I bash Americans..?

Hasrh..!

Yes I am damn HARSH and I know about it, but then I??ll present the reality as the way as it is and not the way the Americans dream is..!

I am a wake up call??_ sort of..!

Cattle in a snow storm Q. Sheep. We only see what they show us. Smoke and mirrors. So thank you for giving a different slant on things.

You are so very welcome...!

I??ll keep it that way as far as it goes..! Someday, somehow you guys will wake up from your (Disneyland dream) and see the realty..!

If you believe in GOD and justice...? Then buckle up??_!

I will be long and well in my grave before that ever happens Q. The world spins on as it does, and no one sees the hurricane within the eye of the storm.

Posted by Dynamite Parfait
Q, I understand where you are coming from, but why punish The Many for the sins of The Few?

I've always wondered about that.......

They are defending their of —way of life?? aren't they..?

The question is??_ what the hell is their way of life..? and why are they forcing their way of life to the world in the name of democracy..?

I don't want the American way of life.. where should I go..?

Am I terrorist for that matter..?? I despise the American way of life..! Am I terrorist then..?

That's the fucking dilemma you are going to deal with??_ —if you are not with us, then you are against us??..

Majority of Americans thinks that way..

You will find that not everyone shares the viewpoint in that Q. As a matter of fact, many think that troops should be pulled from overseas and brought home. To let countries handle their own matters. It is not up to us, the decision making in sending forces when and where.
And there is much within this land that I do not agree with, so where should *I* go exactly?
And because you cannot abide nor agree with the American way of life, that does not make you a terrorist. It makes you a man with his own counsel kept on the matter.

Hey! Get back here DP, you had appetizers, liquor and everything! 😛

lol!

for the record, Q is correct.

if you're not vegan or vegetarian, you're not entitled to an opinion. i don't care if you go the "less cruel" route or not. as long as you're ok for eating meat that you didn't hunt and kill with your own hands, you're part of the problem.

these animals are raised solely for the purpose of human consumption. what quality of life do they have? they're no better than a head of broccoli except they taste yummier when smothered in gravy and fried in fat 😄

Posted by venusianbull
Y It is not up to us, the decision making in sending forces when and where.

Decision making and the fucking American dumbocracies..?

Give it up..! the World does not need American democracy, that's for sure..!

It sounds like a threat.. its like ........—if you are not with —us?? the you are with the —others??.. ??_..err??_duh..!?? what are others..?? terrorists..?

Wtf..?

Now??_ you are smart and I'd like to ask you about the American democracies.. what is so spectacular about American democracies that we are all missing here..?