DXP Survivor 2014 Part I (Page 9)

Posted by GetMisted
Again, you can't have right to education, right to free will, right to anything without being alive.

I don't recall of disagreeing with you.

The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live and, in particular, should not to be unjustly killed by another human being. The concept of a right to life is central to debates on the issues of euthanasia, capital punishment, abortion, self defense and the morality of war.

This does not conflict with free will nor education because this is the descripton of right to life as per your doctrine set out after the second world war atrocities to preserve life.

Being alive and doing lively things Right to Life

*Being alive and doing lively things doesn't equal Right to Life.

I'm sorry GetMisted but really you are a sore loser. Stabs at each other is fine but you're taking this personal so I'll make it personal for you. Grow up.

Right!! We are not playing the powerball here people!!!

GetMisted was left alone for a very long time..then the other guy Damante came along and help..

Correct me if Im wrong..because I was focused on following the thread??_

Half of the thread was mostly debated about Liberty and Will and Education

Airheads still attached on all of the other teams rights..discrimination I am not sure of??_

I don't see were all of our rights were attacked...but I will go back and look again later.

Excuse any spelling error. It doesn't mean I am dumb??_I am still at work and rushing..

Congratulations Team Airhead.

As for my Team #DownyDryerSheets , congratulations Damnata for winning the immunity challenge. 😄

Onwards, to round two.

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by aquasnoz
The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live and, in particular, should not to be unjustly killed by another human being. The concept of a right to life is central to debates on the issues of euthanasia, capital punishment, abortion, self defense and the morality of war.

This does not conflict with free will nor education because this is the descripton of right to life as per your doctrine set out after the second world war atrocities to preserve life.

Being alive and doing lively things Right to Life

Exactly! NYAA said he could "unjustly" take my life because he had free will. But he can't because I have a right to life. That makes right to life more important.

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No but seriously if you really want to apply logic what's to stop anyone putting a bullet through your head. What is the importance of this right when someone else's free will can at any time impede, or nature for that matter?

All things considered I (outside of the debate) I agree the right to life is important and essential but within the debate there was no solid evidence of this and this is probably where you failed by trying to break down Nacho's argument but with no solid points.

I would've moved away from that example and made a point about Right to Life and in particular "The right to live" is in some form free will, you cannot have will without a wanting to live therefore it trumps freedom of will.

That you probably need to reinforce better. There's nothing wrong with what you're debating but don't expect the other team to be agreeing with you because the aim for us is to win. We will do all we can to draw it back to the first instance of HOW it happened.

You could've made an argument and taken material to back that free will is all but an illusion if it ever ended up being that bad therefore making freedom of will redundant. I recall you saying there is no free will but that was quickly skipped over after Nacho came back with a short retort.

The aim isn't to convince your opponent, the aim is to break them down completely and persuade the judge and sometimes you win some sometimes you lose some. Knowing all facts means seeing opposition's perspective in order to break it down, all points have merits the job here is to make your own points almost impenetrable.

If I feel I can't make that case I move on to the next point. This is where you made it easy for me and Nacho because you were so fixated on a single point during the entire debate.

If your point made more sense then we'd have to counter it to ensure we have the upper hand. I even pointed out during the debate and as I am now but it's all falling on deaf ears.

We don't need to counter if we don't want to. If your point made more sense then it's really our loss. You might feel like it's a better point just as I think my points are better... it doesn't always necessarily mean that.

People have stayed civil and you are the one to point out how foolish this entire thing is. I have challenged Stoic's debate topic before but it really won't get you anywhere because we are the one who agreed to participate in the first place, his turf, his rules.

We're going nowhere anytime until some more of the Dryer Sheets cast their votes.

Posted by GetMisted
"You could've made an argument and taken material to back that free will is all but an illusion if it ever ended up being that bad therefore making freedom of will redundant. I recall you saying there is no free will but that was quickly skipped over after Nacho came back with a short retort."

He said he didn't have to counter my arguement because his right to free will allows him to do so.

Give me a break. You guys can keep that crap. Judge needs to stop being biased.

Show me the exact quote where I say that verbatim.

Posted by StillWater

Posted by aquariuslove14
Right!! We are not playing the powerball here people!!!

GetMisted was left alone for a very long time..then the other guy Damante came along and help..

Correct me if Im wrong..because I was focused on following the thread??_

Half of the thread was mostly debated about Liberty and Will and Education

Airheads still attached on all of the other teams rights..discrimination I am not sure of??_

I don't see were all of our rights were attacked...but I will go back and look again later.

Excuse any spelling error. It doesn't mean I am dumb??_I am still at work and rushing..

Don't waste your time, hun. The verdict was already made and there is no point falling for their "sore loser" comments. Save your energy for our next victory.

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bol 🙂

Posted by StillWater

Posted by scorchedearth
damnata and the rest of the team took the loss with grace. the only one who was being pissy is getmisted. so don't blame the entire team for the actions of one person.

Posted by Damnata
Yes, I want to see how the right of education is above the right of life in importance. How they defended my counter arguments because they didn't. SW did defend a few but for the rest..no.

I really think I won at least that for my team.

Damnata is an alright chick but she also made some pretty "sore loser" comments.

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This is the reality, from page 18 to the end no one could mount an effective argument against mine.

You were the only one who came close...but nyaa was not even close with his arguments like I was with mine. So you claiming this means you have to be blind. Snoz made the best points for your team, followed by Steve. NYAA should've lost the debate on his own...he was THAT far off the mark.

So please read how my arguments on education completely dismissed all of yours.

I was taking about my contribution, I am not getting into NYAA vs GetMisted because I wasn't there.

Posted by scorchedearth
lol at damnata being called a guy. 😛

Like I said, that chick cannot even slap 2 neurons together to realize I am not a guy.

So hearing her talk about intelectual prowess is...hilarious to me 😄

Posted by aquasnoz
The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live and, in particular, should not to be unjustly killed by another human being. The concept of a right to life is central to debates on the issues of euthanasia, capital punishment, abortion, self defense and the morality of war.

This does not conflict with free will nor education because this is the descripton of right to life as per your doctrine set out after the second world war atrocities to preserve life.

Being alive and doing lively things Right to Life

This was not a point brought up in debate snoz. Like I said, no one said this in response to our right to life.

The votes are in and LilyTree is out.

Audience: submit your votes for which of the Airheads

Aquariuslove14
Aquasnoz
Duchessedenemours
NotYourAverageAquarius
SteveW
Stillwater

you want to move to the Dryer Sheets' team. Votes must be submitted by PM to me to be counted. As stated in the opening of this thread, votes submitted by usernames whose first post was on or after March 6, 2014 will not be considered.

Votes will be accepted until 4PM EST tomorrow, March 21st. Assuming there is a clear majority, the next debate will commence at 9PM EST the same evening.

Anyway, to get back to voting off..I have a question for the Judge.

Is there a limit until we send the message? Because I haven't seen APC or Lily in here yet.

Sorry to hold the next challenge back guys.

lol, we posted at the same time 😄

Posted by Damnata
Anyway, to get back to voting off..I have a question for the Judge.

Is there a limit until we send the message? Because I haven't seen APC or Lily in here yet.

Sorry to hold the next challenge back guys.

For future reference, there is no time limit on votes to kick people out because the game cannot proceed until the choice is made.

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
does that mean I can't vote?

I so confused.

You can vote.

Posted by StoicGoat

Posted by Damnata
Anyway, to get back to voting off..I have a question for the Judge.

Is there a limit until we send the message? Because I haven't seen APC or Lily in here yet.

Sorry to hold the next challenge back guys.

For future reference, there is no time limit on votes to kick people out because the game cannot proceed until the choice is made.

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Ok, I thought as much 🙂. Thanks for the answer.

Posted by SteveW

Posted by StoicGoat
The votes are in and LilyTree is out.

Audience: submit your votes for which of the Airheads

Aquariuslove14
Aquasnoz
Duchessedenemours
NotYourAverageAquarius
SteveW
Stillwater

you want to move to the Dryer Sheets' team. Votes must be submitted by PM to me to be counted. As stated in the opening of this thread, votes submitted by usernames whose first post was on or after March 6, 2014 will not be considered.

Votes will be accepted until 4PM EST tomorrow, March 21st. Assuming there is a clear majority, the next debate will commence at 9PM EST the same evening.

Is our team allowed to partake in the vote?

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You cannot vote. You are not the audience.

Aww I wasn't here for that Damnata 😢

I probably would've pulled up something about neurons and how our brains work and that learning is a natural process and inherent in all human beings therefore making it fundamental, it is a survival instinct built into our brains thus making it a very very basic and human right.

Then using your words at the end about 'choices' to bolster our chosen 'freedom of will'.

But in all honesty it can get pretty messy when you're trying to discern what is a 'legal right' and what is a 'natural right'. I mean is life or survival instincts a right? or just that... survival instincts.

*waves at ladyscorp*

Ok, just looked through the last 5 pages and obviously no one can get more heated about this than either of our teams 😄

So, that being said, on to the next challenge 🙂

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I *am so confused.

I'm not four years old. ffs.

lol 🙂

Posted by aquasnoz
Aww I wasn't here for that Damnata 😢

I probably would've pulled up something about neurons and how our brains work and that learning is a natural process and inherent in all human beings therefore making it fundamental, it is a survival instinct built into our brains thus making it a very very basic and human right.

Then using your words at the end about 'choices' to bolster our chosen 'freedom of will'.

But in all honesty it can get pretty messy when you're trying to discern what is a 'legal right' and what is a 'natural right'. I mean is life or survival instincts a right? or just that... survival instincts.

I know hon, that's why I was so stumped. You and me have the same problem with being online. If you read what went down from page 18 to the end...you will understand where I come from. The first 18 pages were a clusterfuck and it was more nyaa vs getmisted and getmisted vs nyaa than a debate.

Folks, whatever happens here, let's preserve our sanity and not start sending hitmen to each other's house.

#pleasedontkillme

It is what it is. The end.

(it is already turning into a soap opera lol)

Posted by aquasnoz
If your point made more sense then we'd have to counter it to ensure we have the upper hand. I even pointed out during the debate and as I am now but it's all falling on deaf ears.

We don't need to counter if we don't want to. If your point made more sense then it's really our loss. You might feel like it's a better point just as I think my points are better... it doesn't always necessarily mean that.

People have stayed civil and you are the one to point out how foolish this entire thing is. I have challenged Stoic's debate topic before but it really won't get you anywhere because we are the one who agreed to participate in the first place, his turf, his rules.

Right!! First it started out with Congrats airheads then slowed turned to a bunch of pouting.

Twirling one, everyone on dxp can vote..other than the members of the two teams.

You just needed to have posted your first post on DXP before 6th of March 2014.

And yes, everyone reading, please don't send NYAA over.

DXP Survivor 2014 - "When things gets personal" or "Mutables make a stand, love for all"

I am making the stand "please don't send nyaa over because his style clashes with mine horribly" and then "LET'S ALL GET ALONG FOLKS"

The game wouldn't be as fun to watch if NYAA got shifted. I'm enjoying his battle ram technique. 😈

Anyway, at least you guys haven't completely dissolved your teams in a fit of whining yet. You're already a giant step ahead of last year's competition.

😛

Lol @ scrambling

"can we vote?"
"how will you vote people?"
"please don't send me away"

Posted by Damnata
Folks, whatever happens here, let's preserve our sanity and not start sending hitmen to each other's house.

#pleasedontkillme

It is what it is. The end.

(it is already turning into a soap opera lol)

RIGHT!!! Just as bad a reality TV bol..and I hate Reality TV 🙂 bol

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
holy hell...how many pisces moons can you get on one team? 😱

The best one is in Airheads, and it's not nacho

*dusts shoulders*

Posted by aquasnoz

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
holy hell...how many pisces moons can you get on one team? 😱

The best one is in Airheads, and it's not nacho

*dusts shoulders*

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oh snoz, i love you so

(don't kill me gem)

Posted by StoicGoat
The votes are in and LilyTree is out.

Audience: submit your votes for which of the Airheads

Aquariuslove14
Aquasnoz
Duchessedenemours
NotYourAverageAquarius
SteveW
Stillwater

you want to move to the Dryer Sheets' team. Votes must be submitted by PM to me to be counted. As stated in the opening of this thread, votes submitted by usernames whose first post was on or after March 6, 2014 will not be considered.

Votes will be accepted until 4PM EST tomorrow, March 21st. Assuming there is a clear majority, the next debate will commence at 9PM EST the same evening.

HAVE THE VOTES OPEN IN POSTS HERE. This way everyone sees it.

Different year..same shit. Cheating by the judge. Again.

Like I said, next year this shit moves to the Games forum.

Can I suggest a topic for the next debate?

"Is whining an inherent human characteristic? Agree or disagree?"

lol, I am just having fun with this thread now 😄

No hard feelings yall. I am a robot, cannot have feelings, hard or not.

Posted by DonumDei

Posted by aquasnoz
The best one is in Airheads, and it's not nacho

*dusts shoulders*

.... 🥱

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Posted by LetltB

Posted by StoicGoat
The votes are in and LilyTree is out.

Audience: submit your votes for which of the Airheads

Aquariuslove14
Aquasnoz
Duchessedenemours
NotYourAverageAquarius
SteveW
Stillwater

you want to move to the Dryer Sheets' team. Votes must be submitted by PM to me to be counted. As stated in the opening of this thread, votes submitted by usernames whose first post was on or after March 6, 2014 will not be considered.

Votes will be accepted until 4PM EST tomorrow, March 21st. Assuming there is a clear majority, the next debate will commence at 9PM EST the same evening.

HAVE THE VOTES OPEN IN POSTS HERE. This way everyone sees it.

Different year..same shit. Cheating by the judge. Again.

Like I said, next year this shit moves to the Games forum.

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I trust I can safely speak for more than just myself when I say that we await with rapt attention the presentation of the evidence with which you propose to substantiate your allegation.

In the absence of such evidence, your allegation clearly qualifies under the legal definitions of character defamation and libel. Would you mind providing your mailing address to my counsel so I can have you served?

Posted by duchessedenemours
Goat could make a Voting thread and a google form. At least then people could see the results and it would still be anonymous.

There would be no way to ensure people only voted once.

Posted by StoicGoat

I trust I can safely speak for more than just myself when I say that we await with rapt attention the presentation of the evidence with which you propose to substantiate your allegation.

In the absence of such evidence, your allegation clearly qualifies under the legal definitions of character defamation and libel. Would you mind providing your mailing address to my counsel so I can have you served?

I'd love to pull up ALL of the accusations, but you deleted last years. Put the AUDIENCE vote up PUBLICLY. or..

go fuck yourself and shove your defamation and libel up your ass while you are at it.

Posted by duchessedenemours
Goat could make a Voting thread and a google form. At least then people could see the results and it would still be anonymous.

What's the big deal? Like we know each other? What's wrong with right here? All results will be seen.

Don't trust the goat. He's already shown bias.

...and counted properly.

How would you prevent someone from voting under another's username?

But you just enter your username. What's to keep me from submitting my vote and claiming to be you?

Posted by duchessedenemours

Posted by StoicGoat
How would you prevent someone from voting under another's username?

There is a spreadsheet showing who voted for who.

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How is that anonymous?

Posted by Damnata
*waves at ladyscorp*

Ok, just looked through the last 5 pages and obviously no one can get more heated about this than either of our teams 😄

So, that being said, on to the next challenge 🙂

[waves back at Damnata]

Moi? Complete serenity upon my face.

What heat? 😛

[passes a round of cognac, champagne, wine and cocktails]

🍹

I tried to come up with a way to utilize something of this nature that would work, Twinks, and failed to come up with anything.

It would only be obvious if someone tried to vote as someone else if that someone else noticed the vote they didn't cast. But then they could just be stirring up drama, too, arguing against their own vote for kicks.

Ideally, there would be a voting function built in to DXP. That could guarantee that only a given user was casting a vote. Given how rarely it would be used, I don't blame the overlord(s) for not investing in it, though.