FIXED SIGNS

Are we really stubborn? Ive been called stubborn a lot of times but i dont think i really am. For me personally its all in the tone of the person trying to convince me of something. If im told in a nice and non-forceful way i do change after thinking about it. But if i dont like your tone thats when i become rigid- i might still change thou, but only when i feel like it (not on your set time). If u arent a fixed sign and know 1, how are they (fixed signs) different when it comes to change compared to you? Just curious coz i dont get it.

Quoting Frank Sinatra- dont tell me, suggest!

Fixed signs are batshit crazy.

Claro..i agree with the points u made. Regarding the last part of your post, i know some ppl who change their views based on the audience/company they have at the time. 1 such person is a pisces. Personally i cant stand ppl like that, its like listening to a choir. Bleh.

Rocky..how so?

I have a fixed moon and I'm really really stubborn. I prefer if you suggest something to me, nicely of course otherwise I won't take it into consideration and/or I'll shut off. I dunno, when someone tells me I should do this and that my blood boils inside and I think how dare you tell me what to do...how do U know whats good for me?! LOL.

When giving suggestions I always start with 'may I suggest' or 'perhaps you could try' and leave it at that.

Ninja..i know exactly what u mean and it boils my blood too, lol. I used to be pissed by notices/signs too, ie DO NOT SMOKE HERE. I know its childish, lol, but it really got to me. Like really, what are you going to then do if i were to light up one now? Stupid i know. Puur..ur so right about the unappologetical part of fixed signs. Its really hard for me to say sorry, if i say it im faking it. There are rare cases where i really mean it thou. Its hard to admit that ur wrong.

Posted by Slicks
stylin' on the rest of the zodiac like Yeezy

lol yep that's me...

But I do listen, I really do and yes I'm stubborn but I've outgrown a lot of my batshit craziness 😄

PHV..just out of curiosity-u say they argue up and down without proof to back up what they say, what proof do U have to show that YOUR way is in fact the CORRECT 1?

I'm a Leo with a cancer moon and sag rising, I feel stubborness coming upon me but then something kicks in and a realisation begins, I think the cancer and sag elements help a lot in keeping the stubborness away. My taurus friend has a scorpio moon, she is so stubborn its funny, her husband is the most stubborn man I have ever met, he is completly aware of it and revels in it gleefully, he's a scorpio. The man I am seeing at the moment is a taurus sun/leo moon, going only by his tales of past incidents it appears he is going to outdo my taurus friend in stubborness.

Celtic..omg dont tell me about taurus, my bestfriend is one and she is so annoyingly stubborn. I gave up trying to convince her of anything, we just agree to disagree. 99% of the time i know IM right thou, not her, lol. I just know it!

I've been told I'm extremely stubborn and sometimes I come across as abrasive and arrogant.

The thing is, I always think I'm right and if others think different, then they MUST be wrong! I usually am a "live and let live" kind of person. But if someone keeps on imposing their views over mine, then I will eventually reach a point where I will try to prove them completely wrong. And if I'm unsuccessful at that, then I will just shut them up and force my point upon them. I'd have to be very pissed to react like that, though. I usually say: "I don't think you are right, but I get your point and I respect it". Sometimes I get angry and act in a patronizing manner and walk away. Or sometimes I simply nod and don't say anything. I think nobody has a right to tell me what to do.

The only fixed planets in my chart are Sun in Aqua and Pluto in Scorp. I wouldn't even mention Pluto if it wasn't square my Sun. I have Mercury, Venus, Mars in Cap, which (I think) also adds to the stubbornness.

PHV..Really? All the facts? To my knowledge everything is open for debate (almost everything), which means theres bound to be an opposing view- except maybe the awesomeness of fixed signs, lol. There 2 ways to look at the word fixed (a)fixed as in corrected, flaw-less (LOL), RIGHT (this 1 is my fave),etc. So u see we are ALWAYS RIGHT, FIXED OF ANY ERRORS. Hahah (b)fixed as in unmoving, so sorry but ull have to move around US whether u like it or not-cant move for u, nuh-huh! Plus fixed signs are called the 4 pillars of strength situated on each corner of the zodiac, holding it together like glue so if we were to move u all would fall off the face of Earth. Be greatful, PHV. Lol, im joking.

Posted by WaterCup
Rocky..how so?

Because it goes beyond "stubborn" and you guys look like total nutcases.

Look at all the Leo chicks that come up in here with their problems and not only is that fixed bullshit a huge part of the problem they're having, but giving them advice and telling them that x is caused by y is met with a blank look. They're so stupidly stubborn to see that they're the fuck up that that you can't possibly be right. It can be utterly maddening when trying to help them. They aren't the only ones, but it's a good example I can think of that's been consistent in pattern.

We also had a wave of Aquas recently who were going around doing some crazy shit in regard to a guy, and no matter how many ways you phrased "what you're doing is crazy. Stop." They just wouldn't take it for an answer. Okay, look psychotic... It's absolutely self destructive.

I've also noticed with most fixed signs is that they seem to be gluttons for punishment. That "stubborn" bullshit keeps them around in situations longer than they need to be. Or they go into a situation that they know won't work, yet stick around because they're "stubborn."

A lot of fixed signs are the epitome of "Insanity is the act of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results every time." THAT is fixed signs in a nutshell, IMO.

They may be stable in some areas, but when it comes to other things, I wouldn't trust them because of that extreme side of things.

Note- I know not all are like this, but the many I've come across have been.

Posted by BlueSandCacoon
I've been told I'm extremely stubborn and sometimes I come across as abrasive and arrogant.

The thing is, I always think I'm right and if others think different, then they MUST be wrong! I usually am a "live and let live" kind of person. But if someone keeps on imposing their views over mine, then I will eventually reach a point where I will try to prove them completely wrong. And if I'm unsuccessful at that, then I will just shut them up and force my point upon them. I'd have to be very pissed to react like that, though. I usually say: "I don't think you are right, but I get your point and I respect it". Sometimes I get angry and act in a patronizing manner and walk away. Or sometimes I simply nod and don't say anything. I think nobody has a right to tell me what to do.

The only fixed planets in my chart are Sun in Aqua and Pluto in Scorp. I wouldn't even mention Pluto if it wasn't square my Sun. I have Mercury, Venus, Mars in Cap, which (I think) also adds to the stubbornness.

Because that'll make you friends... :p

Posted by rockyroadicecream

Posted by BlueSandCacoon
I've been told I'm extremely stubborn and sometimes I come across as abrasive and arrogant.

The thing is, I always think I'm right and if others think different, then they MUST be wrong! I usually am a "live and let live" kind of person. But if someone keeps on imposing their views over mine, then I will eventually reach a point where I will try to prove them completely wrong. And if I'm unsuccessful at that, then I will just shut them up and force my point upon them. I'd have to be very pissed to react like that, though. I usually say: "I don't think you are right, but I get your point and I respect it". Sometimes I get angry and act in a patronizing manner and walk away. Or sometimes I simply nod and don't say anything. I think nobody has a right to tell me what to do.

The only fixed planets in my chart are Sun in Aqua and Pluto in Scorp. I wouldn't even mention Pluto if it wasn't square my Sun. I have Mercury, Venus, Mars in Cap, which (I think) also adds to the stubbornness.

Because that'll make you friends... :p

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Not too many, but it will. And you don't even have to try.

🙂

We are fixed, I'm fixed, my mom is fixed Leo and I can say without a doubt we do grow up and evolve, we may appear bat shit crazy but there is a method to our madness and some fixed signs do learn and grow and evolve away from being stubborn and fixed in his or her ways. I think every sign gets stuck on stupid at some point in his or her life but nothing stays the same, people choose to either grow or stay the same while everyone evolves around them, it's just a matter of choice, will and desire.

Yeah, I know. It's difficult to say the words "I'm sorry" when I'm not in the least repentant. I say those words a lot, actually. I'm kind of a klutz so I always end up screwing up and making stupid mistakes. But when it comes to my EGO (my CORE) and my way of life, I don't really think I'm wrong. It's real hard to change those things that define me and when someone wants to challenge that, then I will obviously disagree.

Sun-Leo

Moon-Scorp

Mars-Taurus

Asc-Scorp


For the record, I am not stubborn. It has such a negative connotation. I am unyielding, like a deep rooted tree or a guardrail. I can be moved or bent but you better bring facts upon facts.

I am not always right..I am however rarely wrong. 😉