straight talk VERSUS playing games

what are your opinions on being upfront and playing the game.

Could there be a time and place for both? Personally I'm more of an upfront person. In my capricorn mind... communicating what you want is the high road. And I completely appreciate when people are upfront with all disclosures with me... gawd, it's refreshing and even attractive.

But I do realize there's a whole population of people who feel the opposite and thrive in the world of games.

Is playing a little flirty game ever innocent?

Is being straight forward ever a little dull and too forthcoming?

When in Rome. . fight fire with fire. =D

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WHO DOES THAT?! Oh wait, Mzsag does that a lot.

by game playing, i'm referring to what id once heard described as "a nebulous way of trying to manipulate someone"

...not even just in dating...

it has a pretty negative connotation. but i'm confronted with it everywhere... at work, socially... people play games it seems in every aspect of life, not just dating.

i admit, i'm guilty of games...

when it comes to dating... it's something i'd done perhaps a few times in spite of myself, when i was a lesser me and feeling vindictive.

when it comes to work, i feel like everyone does it, but at this point i'm certain i still dont do it. it's just so prevalent that i honestly question myself. every man for himself, after their own agenda, and holding their cards close to the chest. perhaps i'm overly suspicious about it all. it just seems the people who have claimed the loudest that they are upfront ended up proving themselves the biggest manipulators.

and i get the feeling that if you are going to be straight forward, you'd better be strong willed and sharp, because some will try to take advantage of that quality in you.

...side note: it's remarkable how the habits, principles and psychology behind dating can be so aligned with work etiquette.

also, i'm pretty sure i'm rambling. appy-polly-logies

hrmmm... i like how you lady and gents aren't exactly polarized on your feelings for either. that's kinda how i feel about it too.

Posted by capgirl75
I don't like to play games but I will if I have to. I usually assume that the men are playing it. Unless they show me they are not. I say do what you need to to win!

:p fixed

"In a relationship, however, "games" can be fun and exciting, but need to take a back-seat to straight-up honesty."

ahhh i like this 🙂

i really am... i think i'm too suspicious. suspicion can easily cloud good intuition

thanks exo 🙂

Straight talk. It is the way of my people.

i appreciate the honesty here. it's hard to draw lines around the two for some i guess. piscesposter... i agree... your ideas may change from person to person. i guess it is case by case, but you kind of have to set a limit for yourself with how far you will go either putting it all on the table vs. toying around with what is on the table.

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Posted by CreepyPants
i really am... i think i'm too suspicious. suspicion can easily cloud good intuition

"It's okay, just play with it" -F.A. (sag)

😉

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lol sage advice

Posted by DazedScorp

You have to mist the bad with honesty, and let it soak in. Mind fuck.

ahaaaaa is that the trick—? lol!!!!!

...

!!!!!!!!!!! lololololol

am i the only one who loves this?!?!?!

btw, i wasnt being facetious. i feel like i've just stumbled upon a small trove of scorpion treasure here lol

When it comes to partnerships or business deals, I'd prefer straightforward approach. I get irritated every time when someone tries sneaky methods. Some people are afraid of this, but I'm not - it just makes me even angrier. All I want is to see things clear and simple. I can play a game and eventually to figure it out if I have to, but I don't like to waste so much time for this, especially when I have more important things to do.

It's like the time when I was hanging out with my triple Scorpio best friend (me being with Leo Sun, Leo Rising and Sagittarius Moon). However, he has his Mars in Scorpio, whereas I have mine in Aries. And Mars in Aries doesn't like it when someone is beating around the bush, just the way this guy did. There was a time when he tried to make some schemes and plans to put me down, but when I learned this from another guy, I was so furious and filled with rage that I came straight into his home and yelled: "I swear I'll break your bones right now!" and he looked at me with quite a surprise in his eyes. Then we got into a fight, but it didn't stand for long - his brother and 2 friends of his separated us and we explained everything. In the end, the Scorpio dude said: "I promise I won't do anything anymore, you crazy motherf*cker.", but after several months he told me what was this all about - he thought I was going to flirt with a girl he liked a lot, but I just had some really good relations with her and nothing more. Then he felt really stupid, but I cheered him up and I told him it's all in the past now. We were at our teens back then, so now things have changed. Now he is an Eagle, whereas I'm more disciplined, constructive and creative.

I too agree that too much straightness or indirectness are dull, so there has to be a balance, whatever the challenge is. Everything has its pros and cons for a very good reason. It's all about learning and gaining life experience after all.

Posted by ellessque
....oh, and games at work?

you bet.

all day, every day.

work is transitory and constantly changing.

if you don't move with the rules of the game at work, you get left behind real fast.

ya, no shit... gawd.

many of them are kind of natural and necessary... almost the job descrip. there are some games i know go on that are over my head and need more time and strategy.

but my instinct to rebel never comes out so strong than the way it does against the lesser games played while at work. i have this almost uncontrollable need to be aggressively direct when people are playing those games with me. and sometimes i am. certain games at least! like passive aggressiveness... ugh, it's vomit inducing.

don't waste my time with your pa bs. i keeeel you.

"i'll cut a bitch to get what I need to survive when it comes to the workplace"

LOL!!!! werd!

Posted by DazedScorp
Cold hearted Cap women in the work place...

Turn me on.

hahahahaha! 😉 you're twisted lol xoxo

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Posted by CreepyPants

Posted by DazedScorp
Cold hearted Cap women in the work place...

Turn me on.

hahahahaha! 😉 you're twisted lol xoxo

You have noooo idea...

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i believe i'm getting a clue though

I can't play a game to save my life. Weird thing is, i seem to come across as if im playing a game. Ill tell you what it is, and if I feel you are invading space ill change the subject but I have no skill on taking someone for a for a ride or being mysterious, yet dudes think I'm doing just that. Its like they refuse to believe what I'm telling them.

My Cap friend and I talked about this the other day. He says in his mind he makes perfect sense, but its like no matter how straightforward he is nobody believes him. He said this was the convo between him and his ex girlfriend that he'd still sleep with.

Ex.-Do you still love and want to be with me?
Him-No
Ex-Well why do you keep coming back if you don't love me anymore?
Him-Because I'm still getting sex. As long as you give it ill be here, but that doesn't mean I still have feelings or want a relationship with you.
Ex.- but why do you keep coming back??
Him-WTF—

Pretty straightforward to me, but misunderstandings is what still happens.

After being seduced a bit I have to admit I like it but you definitely have to balance it and I prefer honesty over all.