Fucking assholes.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/21/pickup-artists-on-trial-for-rape-ring.html

It's a freaking long article, but I'm going to copy/paste snippets. Overall gist is that these PUA fucks got 8 years in prison for raping a drunk chick. Hopefully they serve the full 8. Some of the details in this article are just what the hell.

Sharing because of some of the mentality I see here from naive, clueless guys as well as women.

Pickup Artists Preyed on Drunk Women, Brought Them Home, and Raped Them

How a San Diego woman discovered details of her rape on a pickup-artist blog—and fought to bring her attackers to justice.

Claire says she doesn’t remember meeting Alex and Jonas. She remembers stumbling and someone with a receding hairline “pushing her along,” leading her to an apartment building. She remembers being in a semi-furnished bedroom on a mattress without a headboard. Someone giving her a clear drink. The sip she took didn’t taste like water, maybe it was alcohol? Before she could think about it, she was falling backwards, and that’s when she says it all goes black.

What occurred in that bedroom over the next hour runs in and out of Claire’s mind like waves. As she testified in court, she can feel the bed beneath her, coming to for a moment, and vomiting on the floor. She hears one—or is it two?—male voices, mumbling like the adults in “Charlie Brown” before it all fades away again.

In another part of the apartment, Laura was sitting and chatting with Jonas. On the way in, Laura saw a man named Jason Berlin, lying on a makeshift bed of pillows on the floor. Laura and Jonas walked to the other bedroom, where he tried to kiss her. But Laura wasn’t interested, so they shared a beer and talked for a while instead. After a trip to the bathroom, Laura realized her phone was missing. Jonas had hidden it inside the pocket of a shirt hanging in his closet—which struck her as a strange thing for him to do. Uncomfortable, Laura got up and walked across the apartment to find Claire. It was time to go.

In the weeks following Claire’s rape, there was no hint that her attackers would ever face prosecution. While Claire was filling prescriptions for pain medications, waking from night terrors, and taking breaks from her IT job to cry in the women’s bathroom, the hazy figures inside that San Diego apartment were going about life as usual. One of the men slipped Claire’s left-behind underwear, adding to a collection of several other pairs, into an empty beer box labeled “Lost and Found.”

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When the police hadn’t found any suspects in Claire’s case, she decided to start her own investigation. Her memory may have been unreliable, but evidence was everywhere. So, a month following her rape, Claire did what the police seemingly hadn’t bothered to do: she sat at her computer and Googled “Jonas Dick,”—a name so unique, Laura had asked to see his license when they met.

Claire immediately found Jonas’s profile on the online forum of Real Social Dynamics (RSD)—a Los Angeles-based company that since 2002 has brought in millions of dollars by selling pickup to lonely, socially awkward men.

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A post dated Oct. 12—the night of her rape—caught Claire’s attention. It was titled “Run a train with bootcamp student,” using a term to describe multiple men having sex with a woman.

“Jonas [Dick] and I are both teaching BC [boot camp] tonight,” the post began. “We run into each other at pull o clock [bar closing]. He asks me to Wing for him. I do; within a couple minutes I’m fingering my girl right outside of the bar in public. Pull back to the spot. 0 LMR.”

Alex’s post continued: “Make her beg for my dick and I say only if my friend can fuck you too. So we run a train on the hoe. I text Jonas to choo choo her but he has to occupy her friend. Her friend came out and I was like “yeah we just tagteamed your friend” my chick freaked out (cause now she’s the slut etc.) I get hit in the face with a high heel. I laugh; we kick them out. Detail to be added when I have time.”

Though Alex never returned to the post to add any details, his student, Jason Berlin—the third man in Alex’s apartment that night—provided plenty of evidence in his “field report,” which Claire found next. In the now-deleted post—available only through court documents—Jason wrote that Alex came out of a bedroom naked, and called his name.

“I know its choo choo time,” Jason writes. “I get up and walk towards the room. Writing this now, I already see a huge mistake. I came in with all my clothes on. I should’ve taken off all/most my clothes before I got in there.”

Jason continues in lurid detail.

“Then she leans over soon and starts puking on the floor,” Jason writes, adding that Alex didn’t stop even as she was vomiting. “This is fucking hilarious. He is so unphased / comfortable with weird and dirty situations.”

Description of the "teacher."

“Jonas was a nonevent,” the former RSD employee, who knew Jonas in Vegas, told me. “He was just a regular everyday kid without great hopes. Not that good-looking, not that intelligent. He would come to a lot of free events that RSD would hold to upsell paid events. Jonas was lonely, he didn’t have any friends. He was just a lost soul.”

Jonas moved to California in 2012. That’s when his family says he “lost his way.”

“He was overwhelmed with the pretty girls, beautiful beaches, outstanding weather, and all that is associated with California,” his mother wrote in a letter of support to the court.

Description of one of the other "teachers."

In real life, Alex is balding, lumbering, and smelly. He is intensely socially awkward, perhaps as a symptom of his ADHD, which he treats—or treated, according to his RSD posts—with daily Adderall. In his spare time, Alex enjoyed online role-playing games. But on the RSD forum, Alex (or Beryl or Chrysoberyl as he was known), fashioned himself as a lady-killer who slept with different women every night of the week. His blog, titled “Tales of a Sex Addicted Narcissistic Player,” started, “My name is Beryl, and I like to fuck models.” (sound familiar?)

The mentality of raping drunk women (doesn't surprise me, since I've seen this from assholes, but it's still disgusting seeing them talk like this).

RSD member SirKonstantine replied, “Don’t sweat the shit… 80% of chicks who WERE raped don’t press charges. Chicks can’t handle social pressure and pressing charges involves a lot of social pressure. Of the things that do get reported, the case needs to be solid enough where the prosecutor would want to pursue it. Meaning, if she’s a dumb idiot, no lawyer (or cops) would listen to her. Those horror stories of a chick pointing the finger and a guy going to jail is media hype.”

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A poster with the handle Jack The Repper wrote, “It’s a very slippery slope, a lot of what many of us do on a regular basis could be considered sexual assault. There’s always two sides to the story and society always sides with the female. We all know that it happens, but the lines are becoming so blurred.”

Did RSD know about these sorts of posts?

“The RSD management and coaches don’t give a fuck,” one former high-ranking RSD employee told me. “They don’t care what’s on the forum. The forum is just a way to let the average everyday idiot feeling like they’re part of the community so that they’ll buy more products.”

The mentality of the company who hosts this shit.

In 2013, in a private chatroom visible to only moderators, RSD executive coach Jeff Allen “Jlaix”—himself known for his ownership what he calls a “rape van”—flagged a post titled “How to Rape 90% of your day2s” for removal with the comment, “This is a public forum and RSD is a multi-million dollar corporation with a lot of liability. Reading these carelessly worded threads in front of a jury in a huge precedent setting lawsuits would be an ambulance chaser’s dream come true.”

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Soon Alex was running his own boot camps, and his specialty, according to his blog, was “train game,” or having sex with a woman who has sex with another man immediately after. “The reason I do it is because it’s fucking hilarious and my buddies and I don’t generally give a fuck about women we pull, we get a hilarious story out of it and it’s really fun,” he wrote, explaining his method to other RSD forum members. “She will usually briefly freak out… Have your buddy come in and start doing whatever on her, escalating up, then just hop off and have your buddy continue.”

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The racket behind all this gross behavior

Jonas offered to impart his wisdom in so-called boot camps, for $ 300 a night. Alex also signed on to teach Jason his tricks, and soon the three of them were going out every weekend. Alex and Jonas would pick up girls and watch as Jason practiced their techniques.

“I was always paying them,” Jason said.

Jason was a sponge who soon became a true believer. Still, when it came to actually getting women, “I was the worst person they’d ever seen,” he says they told him.

So the trio hatched a new idea for a more immersive experience. Jason would pay $ 2,000 a month for an apartment near the Gaslamp Quarter, a five-minute walk away from 16 blocks of bars and nightclubs. Alex and Jonas would technically live there, but Jason could come over on the weekends, go out with them for lessons, and crash there. They moved in on Oct. 1.

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Twelve days after Alex and Jonas moved into the Gaslamp apartment, the men met Claire and Laura at closing time and brought the girls back to their apartment, where Jason was waiting.

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Through their attorneys, Alex Smith and Jason Berlin declined to comment for this story. Jonas Dick, currently in prison, asked to be paid for an interview. The Daily Beast declined.

Sorry for the mass of text. This is actually the abridged version. Even when I read the article, it's like god damn, long as fuck.

But the details are some pretty gross and disturbing ones.

Had to share because on several occasions on this site alone, guys deny such shit happens or claim that they don't think women have it that rough when dating. This happens enough to be a problem, you cannot deny that.

We saw jackass here for the longest time in his psychosis and people just loled. This shit isn't funny when you see it leeching into irl and destroying someone's life.

I'm sure most will look past this post and not bother since it's not of trolling or drama llama nature, but wtf ever. Information needs to be known.

One would hope that this story is being discreetly relayed to the general prison population.

They have an odd and brutal code of justice in there.

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tl;dr

the title screams aries

rape is bad

Posted by Geminariescharmer
Pick up artist or whatever it is, this guy lacked basic common sense and doesn't know how seduction works. If he really know what he was doing the girl would wanna rape him instead haha.

What the fuck, mang?

Sad... When I seen this I thought they finally got this guy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Blanc

Posted by Geminariescharmer

Posted by Andalusia

Posted by Geminariescharmer
Pick up artist or whatever it is, this guy lacked basic common sense and doesn't know how seduction works. If he really know what he was doing the girl would wanna rape him instead haha.

What the fuck, mang?

Haha are u another mangina?

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I don't know what that means.

But I took your previous statement to mean "If the dick is good enough, the girl will be begging for it".

If that was not your intention, I apologize.

If it was then I said by my previous statement. What the fuck, mang?

Posted by Weeds
Sad... When I seen this I thought they finally got this guy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Blanc

He is mentioned in the article, actually.

Posted by Flawed_lines


It takes a lot of mental power to get past that experience. It feels as if somebody robbed you your life.

I wonder if any of them feel slightly guilty.

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I doubt it. At least that Jonas dude. That asshole wanted to be PAID to be interviewed. Guys like this don't care because they just see it as a means to an end- them getting their dick wet.

This is why I get so disgusted with the fuckboys on this site- whining about their entitlement of getting women. It's kind of a dangerous thing with some individuals. "I am entitled to hot women and getting laid. How DARE that not happen for me!"

...lo and behold, mass shootings and raping left and right.

Another thing mentioned at the end of the article is the woman who owns the apartment building put a camera inside the building (she'd already had one outside and gave the tapes to the police during the investigation). She lost count of how many women went inside that apartment all relaxed and calm, and left crying, upset, incredibly tense and disturbed, etc. She said you couldn't confirm if a rape had happened or not based off of that, but the body language would definitely be it if it were the case.

Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
I've just realized....... They've essentially paid a guy to ruin their lives. LOLZ! What idiots!

That was one of the fucking stupid things about this. 300 dollars each night they hung out? Paying for an apartment for them to basically squat in? Freaking seriously? All to get laid?

Fucking pathetic, man. For that much, the loser might as well order a prostitute, shit.

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Posted by Geminariescharmer

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Posted by Geminariescharmer
Pick up artist or whatever it is, this guy lacked basic common sense and doesn't know how seduction works. If he really know what he was doing the girl would wanna rape him instead haha.

What the fuck, mang?

Haha are u another mangina?

I don't know what that means.

But I took your previous statement to mean "If the dick is good enough, the girl will be begging for it".

If that was not your intention, I apologize.

If it was then I said by my previous statement. What the fuck, mang?

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I believe he meant if the guy was truly good at his game, he wouldn't have to resort to taking advantage of drunk chicks and raping them to get laid. If he had game, she'd be all over him voluntarily.

What a bunch of coward asshols.

Horrible story...

People need to fall in love the normal way, just like the way rockyroadicecream and I met at Tim Hortons.

Posted by starwars
so fucking gross.

he isn't even ashamed—? they're bragging—? the asshole wanna get paid for being interviewed??

it's really disgusting how many think its okay to blame the victim if she was drunk its on her.

its like...its okay, Rapists are out there we cant do anything about them but put them in Jail for few months.

the girl gotta live scared, not drink and not go out without having one of her girlfriends with her. otherwise its her fault.

the only reason they're gross and are bragging about it is because they know they'd get away with it.

The sad part is that someone even pointed that out when they were talking about what a fine line it was to walk between rape and consent when they were drunk. "Don't worry about it, man. Most won't press charges because society will make them feel like shit for doing it."

I came across this story on another news site and that one actually had a comments section. Someone put it beautifully- "I hope they're ready to "choo choo" in prison." haha. That would be fitting.

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is this rsd site srs?

what in the fuck is with this rsd site

There are currently 396 users and 9103 guests online.

i should join and post dxpnet on there as being a female dominated forum. then all the creepy socially awkward guys would come over to join and every girl here will get a flood of dick pics in their inbox every morning. they might be confused with redoctober2000 though