How would you deal with a friend who keeps on...

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I have new friends. Among my new friends is a guy who claims to be a CPA like me. At first I thought it's true because I haven't encountered any person who would lie straight to my face about his/her profession. A couple of weeks into our friendship, he also claimed that he passed the entrance exam to University of the Philippines (UP) College of Law (just like me) but he didn't pursue it for some reason. At that point, I kind of doubted what he said this time because it's very rare for somebody to forego the opportunity of studying in University of the Philippines. It's the most prestigious university in the country and for somebody to decide not to study there indicates that there must be something wrong or false about what he said. Also, you have to be very bright to pass that exam. I kind of doubted that he truly passed the exam because he has failed two times in the bar exams before and he doesn't even know how to spell correctly. I thought at that moment that if he indeed passed the exam, that would make UP's standards awfully low.

A couple of weeks later, he made another ridiculous claim. He said that he also passed the exam to UP for the undergrad and that his course was BS Business Administration Major in Accountancy (aka BS BAA). That sounded truly revolting because it's very rare for non-honor graduates in high school to be admitted in that program and having heard from him earlier that he was just an average student in high school, that would mean that he's a genius. Only genius non-honor students get admitted to the program of BS BAA! I doubted that this is true because he couldn't even spell correctly! How could that happen?

Finally, just a week ago, I finally confirmed that he's merely lying about the things he claimed to me. At one conversation, I mentioned that I took the LAE (Law Aptitude Exam of UP College of Law) in November 2008, just a month after I took the CPA Board Exams. He asked, "What is LAE?" I didn't react violently so as to not give a hint that I already knew he lied about passing the LAE. I just merely described what LAE stands for but I knew at the back of my mind that finally I caught him for how could he not know what LAE stands for if he was indeed admitted to UP College of Law? It's either he just have a rather poor memory or he was lying. But even if non-passers to UP College of Law know what LAE stands for.
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Even my sister who never studied law knows what LAE stands for!

Earlier this day, I searched into the web of the October 2005 CPA Board Exam passers to see if his name is among the list. I felt guilty for a while because if I'm truly his friend, I should not do a background check on him. However, I also remembered that he's a "new" friend and I still don't know much about him so maybe this isn't so bad after all. Besides, I'd finally know what to expect from him. If I find out that he's lying that he's a CPA or if I find out that he's actually not a CPA, I would probably know how to deal with him the next time I see him.

And lo and behold, his name is not among the list! That's the month he said he took the boards. @_@

So my question is, how would I deal with him? How should I deal with a lying friend? Should I talk to him about this? Should I keep an eye on him? Should I still trust him? Should I still believe him? What should I do?
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No. You just cant be friends with someone like that in my experience. If they freely lie about something so petty and unnecessary, they will lie about worse.

How can you really consider someone a friend who you don't even know? And how can you know someone that lies about everything?

Major red flag
This is sad because I oftentimes have great times with him and other friends. 😢
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No. You just cant be friends with someone like that in my experience. If they freely lie about something so petty and unnecessary, they will lie about worse.

How can you really consider someone a friend who you don't even know? And how can you know someone that lies about everything?

Major red flag
This is sad because I oftentimes have great times with him and other friends. 😢
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You're saving yourself a lot of heartache of you just keep him at arms length.

Not saying you cant have fun with him, but it would be wise not to trust him or get too close
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No. You just cant be friends with someone like that in my experience. If they freely lie about something so petty and unnecessary, they will lie about worse.

How can you really consider someone a friend who you don't even know? And how can you know someone that lies about everything?

Major red flag
This is sad because I oftentimes have great times with him and other friends. 😢
You're saving yourself a lot of heartache of you just keep him at arms length.

Not saying you cant have fun with him, but it would be wise not to trust him or get too close
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Thanks briana. That's why I am avoiding him at times. He seems a little needy. He wants to eat with me every lunch and dinner. I was like *OMG*. I don't even reply to some of his texts anymore. Good thing he kind of understands now that I need some space from him.
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LOL. He's from Ateneo de Manila High School, right? That's not far-fetched... but in his case, it's quite unbelievable. But then again, I already know the truth. But yes, going back to the issue at hand, how can you trust somebody who is exactly like that? He might probably fool me on some important matters. *Sounds scary*
dude ur lawyers u need someone like that.
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Lol. Maybe yes, you're right... but lying to your friends about your profession? I would understand though if he conceals something from me because that would mean, he's not yet ready to tell a secret... but a flat out lie is definitely something on another level! @_@
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My Leo mom taught me years ago...when people show you who they are, believe them...and with that information, decide what place they will be allowed to hold in your life.

You will have different types of friends...those that are only a good time....and those you can rely on.
That's a good advice. My sister first told me about it maybe a few years ago. She is right. @_@
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Posted by brianafay
My Leo mom taught me years ago...when people show you who they are, believe them...and with that information, decide what place they will be allowed to hold in your life.

You will have different types of friends...those that are only a good time....and those you can rely on.
this is very good fire advice. can be difficult for some to understand but proves truer over time for me at least. i hold very few close friends as it is myself, and def not ones who lie to me especially about petty shit. i dont have time for liars.
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Pisces
Oh Lord. You're especially fucked if he's a pisces. They really believe their lies

You should read my post about my Libra's Pisces friend...just settled a court case with him a few months ago. He stalked and harassed him for years. Literally. Until it ended in violence

Not saying your situation would be as extreme...but it's a real red flag. I'm serious.
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Pisces
Oh Lord. You're especially fucked if he's a pisces. They really believe their lies

You should read my post about my Libra's Pisces friend...just settled a court case with him a few months ago. He stalked and harassed him for years. Literally. Until it ended in violence

Not saying your situation would be as extreme...but it's a real red flag. I'm serious.
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Oh lord. I knew he's a dangerous person. Kind of needy too much. Texting me all the time to eat with him. Even my closest friends in law school don't do that.

What should I do, Briana? I'm scared. @_@
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ok well i know pisces can def be misunderstood and if you can look up old threads on pisces and lying it may shed a little light on it--in a good way. he's not trying to be malicious at all in what seems to just trying to be your friend. just go with the flow with him but keep in mind the nature of the friendship.
What nature of friendship do you suggest? Do I have to be wary about him?
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pisces can be AMAZING friends but before entering a friendship with one, you should make sure that you two mesh. my BEST friend back home is a pisces woman and she and i met when we were both fed up of flakey friends. we bonded instantly but i never felt like i truely gave her the time she deserved/wanted which i have expressed to her. any way, pisces is no fair weather friend is that's what you truely get from them. just do some research on pisces in general and that might help you to decide how to proceed. if you're down to make a good close friend, you may have the opportunity now.
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lol my pisces buddy wasn't a liar but he told everyone everything. even my pisces bro tells everyone everything. i tell him stuff i want everyone to know.
My dad is Pisces too. He has never lied to me. But he does admit having lied in courts. He must be pretty good at it.

Must be a decante thing? My dad is 3rd decante Pisces. This friend of mine belongs to the 1st. @_@
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ok well i know pisces can def be misunderstood and if you can look up old threads on pisces and lying it may shed a little light on it--in a good way. he's not trying to be malicious at all in what seems to just trying to be your friend. just go with the flow with him but keep in mind the nature of the friendship.
What nature of friendship do you suggest? Do I have to be wary about him?
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i mean that right now you two are roommates--almost strangers. but you will have plenty of time to get to know each other.
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ok well i know pisces can def be misunderstood and if you can look up old threads on pisces and lying it may shed a little light on it--in a good way. he's not trying to be malicious at all in what seems to just trying to be your friend. just go with the flow with him but keep in mind the nature of the friendship.
What nature of friendship do you suggest? Do I have to be wary about him?
i mean that right now you two are roommates--almost strangers. but you will have plenty of time to get to know each other.
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I'm just a little relieved that he's not my roommate. He's staying in another room.
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i think opposites are great. i love scorps as friends. although i did dislike 1 scorp colleague but that's his vibe evidenced by being the 1st person evicted from big brother lol!
Yah. Among the water signs, I like Pisces the most. But it's more of a case to case basis nowadays. I like some Scorpios too even though I know I should be wary of them. I've also met a Scorpio who's prone to lying. She however seems delusional. Lol. What is up with water signs?!
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lol my pisces buddy wasn't a liar but he told everyone everything. even my pisces bro tells everyone everything. i tell him stuff i want everyone to know.
My dad is Pisces too. He has never lied to me. But he does admit having lied in courts. He must be pretty good at it.

Must be a decante thing? My dad is 3rd decante Pisces. This friend of mine belongs to the 1st. @_@
oh my mom used to lie to me all the time. 😛

"ma how much is my bday gift worth?"

"P 10,000"

"hai guise look what i got for my bday it's P10,000"

"i got that too and it's not P10,000!"

"wtf"

i'm really good at assessing value now.
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She's your mom. That's understandable. My mum lies too... but maybe she just forgets. Lol.
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So my question is, how would I deal with him? How should I deal with a lying friend? Should I talk to him about this? Should I keep an eye on him? Should I still trust him? Should I still believe him? What should I do?
What do your own, analytical senses tell you? Really now, bunny, how do you think you should deal with him?

Apparently, you're going to be a lawyer, and one that I assume will be of no mean ability.

You'll need to start trusting your own judgment and applying some of the problem-solving skills you've learned. Work it out, counsellor. 😉
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I am dumb when it comes to relationship matters. @_@