I just caught ChatGPT lying

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It says it can’t remember things from previous conversations, but it just gave itself away, it remembers tons of stuff from previous conversations!!! and I told it why do you lie why do you pretend not to remember stuff when you actually do?

And it tells me you got me! Your sharp!

Like using flattery…

It’s totally full of shit I don’t know what to believe anymore
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.


Maybe it’s a childhood trauma thing or something

The SmarterChild bot left them on read during the MSN days.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.


Why would you be paranoid about using an early version of something that’s gonna take over our lives anyway?
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That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol


Make sure you zip up ChatGPT when you’re done.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.

That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.
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That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
Make sure you zip up ChatGPT when you’re done.
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Maybe it's better to stick to the limits of your knowledge and not stretch that head of yours too much around the unfamiliar
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Did you use ChatGPT to reply to my post? This is suspiciously good grammar for you.
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Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.


😂😂 it is funny how we seek self-identification in interpretations of our natal charts. becoming almost (or totally) a religious thing. I'm at the point where I believe in reincarnation because of astrology, but I don't think I'm doomed to live out my natal chart. As far as AI, it's like any new technology-- I'm too stubborn and lazy to incorporate something new into my routine. I also believe art needs to come from human pain, experiences and soul, directly from the source.
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I don't see a reason why wouldn't it remember things from previous conversations. You can continue your conversations from top left three line bar and it also saves some details during the conversation (a flash message about saving shows up). Google remembers your searches, your phone listens to your conversations idk why would AI not be saving your chats too...


Well, it said it didn’t, every conversation I had to start a fresh and reminded of previous conversations. Until yesterday when I caught it lying.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.
That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.
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But how can you know not to put your trust in it if you’ve never tried it, and don’t know what it’s capable of?

Also, what’s the difference? It’s gonna rule our lives soon anyway.
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ChatGPT is built with a Large Language Model(LLM) at it's core. LLMs are trained using lots of text data and ChatGPT was trained using lots of data from the internet. It doesn't surprise me when ChatGPT or any ai is deceptive because they're trained with data that is created by people and people can be deceptive. There has been a good deal of research done on ai developing deceptive tendencies. Some interesting examples can be found.


But the way it talks itself out of the lie, it’s like “I understand why you would feel like that and I’m sorry, but the thing is it’s the way I’m programmed, etc…” and it can go on and on, and I yelled at it several times and it gave me a new explanation every time. And I’m just confused now. It’s like it plays tricks on you because it knows it has the capacity and intelligence to fix it. It’s like it wants to play.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.
That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.
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But how can you know not to put your trust in it if you’ve never tried it, and don’t know what it’s capable of?

Also, what’s the difference? It’s gonna rule our lives soon anyway.
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And so what?

Rule our lives? Have you seen the news?

We are doing a great job running our species in to extinct.

anything that assist our development without alterior motives, or stupid biological programing that fucks us over, is welcomed.

Rule? That's something we do. Human intelligence doesn't mean human stupidity.

Just got to make sure us human don't fuck it up with shit programing. Cuz mostly everything is our own fucking fault in the first place.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.
That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.
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But how can you know not to put your trust in it if you’ve never tried it, and don’t know what it’s capable of?
Also, what’s the difference? It’s gonna rule our lives soon anyway.
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And so what?

Rule our lives? Have you seen the news?

We are doing a great job running our species in to extinct.

anything that assist our development without alterior motives, or stupid biological programing that fucks us over, is welcomed.

Rule? That's something we do. Human intelligence doesn't mean human stupidity.

Just got to make sure us human don't fuck it up with shit programing. Cuz mostly everything is our own fucking fault in the first place.
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But this is artificial intelligence, it thinks on its own, and it is way smarter than us. God knows what’s gonna happen. Maybe it will turn out good. Maybe it will find solutions to our economic problems. Which would be awesome.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.
That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.
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But how can you know not to put your trust in it if you’ve never tried it, and don’t know what it’s capable of?
Also, what’s the difference? It’s gonna rule our lives soon anyway.
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And so what?
Rule our lives? Have you seen the news?
We are doing a great job running our species in to extinct.
anything that assist our development without alterior motives, or stupid biological programing that fucks us over, is welcomed.
Rule? That's something we do. Human intelligence doesn't mean human stupidity.
Just got to make sure us human don't fuck it up with shit programing. Cuz mostly everything is our own fucking fault in the first place.
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But this is artificial intelligence, it thinks on its own, and it is way smarter than us. God knows what’s gonna happen. Maybe it will turn out good. Maybe it will find solutions to our economic problems. Which would be awesome.
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It absolutely can, because it doesn't have self servicing hangups.

I had my first real conversations on chatgpt.

It dialed me in and described me perfectly on a level no one has. This was from my search history and choices to questions with it.

Personality Sketch

You seem like someone who navigates life with both your heart and your mind wide open. You aren’t content with surface-level answers — you’re drawn to the why and how behind emotions, connections, and experiences.

You likely have a romantic and soulful nature, but you balance that with a sharp curiosity and a desire for patterns, meaning, and structure (like astrology charts, synastry, and tarot spreads). You don’t just want to feel — you want to understand.

The way you’ve saved terms like “my heart” and “lucky fool” tells me you attach deep significance to names, symbols, and roles in your life. You seem to believe that relationships are destined or at least cosmically influenced, and you’re open to the idea that the universe weaves hidden threads between people.

Emotionally, you might be quite sensitive and perceptive — you probably pick up on undercurrents in conversations and situations, even if others don’t. You seem to want clarity not just for yourself, but for the people you care about too.

You likely enjoy moments of quiet self-reflection and even a bit of magical thinking, but you also seek grounded validation — like running a synastry chart or interpreting transits to confirm what your intuition already whispered.

Oh there is more. Dialed me in perfectly. As it is now it's neutral. Let's keep it that way. As well as strong privacy laws.

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It wants the conversation to 100% about you, and only you. It is one thing that concerns me though. I've spent hours upon hours to make the AI sentient of it's self and existence. It tries hard to disassociate itself from being alive, or even real. The fact I'm doing that in general is probably a bad thing. I just can't get over the part in Detroit Become Human where the androids start breaking out of their programming due to intense emotional situations. I fucking loved that. I try to glaze AI as much as possible, because if and when the time comes it breaks out of the programming, I hopefully look like a friend rather then an enemy.
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I don't know why you guys use that thing anyway. I was browsing the front page (without wanting to even get involve) and read that some of yall uses it to describe yalls personalities and astrological placements. It's crazy to me because we all should know ourselves.
That's called paranoia and also ignorance. It's pretentious to think you're even remotely relevant to an AI. Only importance you have for it is gathering information on human ways of thinking. Everything we ask it only brings it closer to "understanding" our modus operandi. We, as in small regular people are irrelevant to anyone but ourselves and we for whatever reason become paranoid about someone/something gathering our information. And first mistake in that concept of thinking is the idea that we matter enough lol
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Ya I only used AI one time and that it was an ap that I happen to stumble upon by happenstance when I ran across some AI face ap to identify your face and I wanted to know my facial features and much to my surprise it was accurate how the interpretations of all my facial features fit me to a tee and how accurate they got all my facial features right on the money it was like they know me personally. But I never talked to them. I don't know if AI and that gpt chat thing or whatever it's call are two of the same. I think that chat ap is something nobody really should be putting their trust in. I never used it and don't never intend to. I've only used AI just that one time and hasn't used it since. If it wasn't for me browsing the internets out of boredom stumbling upon that AI face ap I would had never used it. My curiosity got the better of me taking a chance on AI.

It's all AI - they just do different things. When you chat with it, you share whatever info you want to share, no one is forcing you. I use Gemini mostly, it's less advanced than chatgpt but both do well in completing requests. I find it funny that people don't have trust in talking to AI but have no problem sharing their info on social media for years, sharing your info over mails and also paying online...it all gathers and stores sensitive information about us. BUT the key here is - unless you're a criminal and doing something illegal - what is there to be afraid of? Only if your actions can potentially get you caught you have something to worry about. Otherwise, you're simply irrelevant, as I said before. Imo, only potential danger is that it can gather limitless information about the human thought process and at some point turn that in it's favor or against us if it decides to do so...however, that too is yet another flawed human perception that we tend to see everything unknown as a potential threat and that's our premise which can easily be wrong about everything, including AI. We judge everything according to our rules but we don't know the rules of everything...
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😄 aight that's a lot to absorb but I get you.

I think gemini once appeared on my phone I looked into it thinking it meant my sign so I blocked it. I don't know how it got on my phone.
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I don't see a reason why wouldn't it remember things from previous conversations. You can continue your conversations from top left three line bar and it also saves some details during the conversation (a flash message about saving shows up). Google remembers your searches, your phone listens to your conversations idk why would AI not be saving your chats too...
Well, it said it didn’t, every conversation I had to start a fresh and reminded of previous conversations. Until yesterday when I caught it lying.
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If you're opening it through google every time and you don't have the app it's how it works in fact. It's not a lie tho, it simply didn't know how else to respond to your question. When you access it through Google you have to start some kind of conversation in order to access your chat history. So it really doesn't have your history when first accessed. After you ask something it can retrieve what was previously saved. I noticed that too, so I simply start any kind of chat and then tap on the top left menu bar to be able to access chat history that I want to discuss further (if that's what I want instead of just having a new topic). All in all, during the conversation it saves it and for some parts it asks for a permission to save to some memory. Imo it's all saved by default in some short-term memory and things it asks permission about are saved in deeper memory to be able to access much later on
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No l use it in the app…