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Posted by djbuck1
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A jury of all women is never good..
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I assume that you are being facetious.

In a court setting, I have found that women actually tend to be somewhat better listeners than men. And if I was ever on trial for anything (God help me), the attorney I would beg to represent me is a woman.

But WTH do I know. I've only practiced for over 20 years. 😉
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Well lawyers are different than jurors. Women attorneys are hardcore.

But yeah if I was innocent or guilty I would want an all female jury too. Cuz I think it is much easier to create just that little piece of doubt of your guilt with them.
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Posted by djbuck1
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22
A jury of all women is never good..
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I assume that you are being facetious.

In a court setting, I have found that women actually tend to be somewhat better listeners than men. And if I was ever on trial for anything (God help me), the attorney I would beg to represent me is a woman.

But WTH do I know. I've only practiced for over 20 years. 😉



Well lawyers are different than jurors. Women attorneys are hardcore.

But yeah if I was innocent or guilty I would want an all female jury too. Cuz I think it is much easier to create just that little piece of doubt of your guilt with them.



I respectfully disagree about the ability to plant doubt in the mind of a woman serving as a member of a jury or as a member of an adjudicative board. The number of "hold out" jurors who had a doubt splits pretty evenly between men and women in my experience. And I'm not familiar with any practicing attorney much under the age of 60 who would choose a woman juror thinking he could plant a doubt.
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I'm talking as a whole. A jury of all women. I would def take my chances as a male defendant with a jury of all women.
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Furthermore ....... it's very suspicious.

Both sides fully KNOW that if they can manipulate the females into taking the case to heart .... then she won't listen to anything practical after that point.

One only needs to look in dxp to see that females are extremely illogical, once feelings have been applied.

Without males on the jury, there is no balance .... the females will react SOLELY to how THEY feel, and won't budge from that point once a feeling about it has been developed within them.


And I'd wager that both sides fully realize this ... that's what they are hoping for, and why there are no male jurors.

And why not a black juror? Was someone worried that a black juror would be biased? Doesn't that seem a tad prejudiced?
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Posted by SUT2pointoh
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Jurors have been selected for the Zimmerman case ... and they are all women ....

5 white
1 Hispanic


Does something seem very wrong here?



Very Very wrong

And the knock knock joke at the beginning? WTF—


This fat Jewxican should be under the jail already real shyt.
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LOL @ "jewxican". I have heard Zimmerman referred to as many things, but that's definitely a first.
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Posted by P-Angel
Furthermore ....... it's very suspicious.

Both sides fully KNOW that if they can manipulate the females into taking the case to heart .... then she won't listen to anything practical after that point.

One only needs to look in dxp to see that females are extremely illogical, once feelings have been applied.

Without males on the jury, there is no balance .... the females will react SOLELY to how THEY feel, and won't budge from that point once a feeling about it has been developed within them.


And I'd wager that both sides fully realize this ... that's what they are hoping for, and why there are no male jurors.

And why not a black juror? Was someone worried that a black juror would be biased? Doesn't that seem a tad prejudiced?



It's abundantly obvious what they are doing. Feelings over fact. lol just grand.
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Dickbreath conveniently left out a fewsy inconvenientsy wittle factsies.

1.) Zimmerman was an established teacher, supporter and helper for troublef black youth, so oops, therr goes your waaaaaysssist charge.

2.) Martin had a known record loaded with drug use and other crimes. Martin was also a suspected thief after valuabke jewelry was fiund in his personal possession.

3.) Zimmerman had marks all over his back and cut and gash wounds on the back of his head to verify his claimmof Martin smashing his head into the concrete.

4.) Therehad been several break-ins and robberies in Zimmermans neighborhood, and a lot of folks who owned homes in the area acknowledged this.

5.) Martin was mosy likely probing the neighborhood for a house to break into and ron, and was confrinted by Zimmerman instead. Angry and cornered with the facts, Martin then attacked Zimmerman and tried to kill him via blunt force trauma. Zimmerman, shouting for help and knowing he was going todie, got no help at allfrom the prople who overheard the commotion. Zimmerman then oulled his gun at the last resortand that was the end of Martin and his druggie/burglary/thug life.

And before you liberal assholes call me a wassssssssist, I remind you of point 1.
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Posted by ScorpioFish
Dickbreath conveniently left out a fewsy inconvenientsy wittle factsies.

1.) Zimmerman was an established teacher, supporter and helper for troublef black youth, so oops, therr goes your waaaaaysssist charge.

2.) Martin had a known record loaded with drug use and other crimes. Martin was also a suspected thief after valuabke jewelry was fiund in his personal possession.

3.) Zimmerman had marks all over his back and cut and gash wounds on the back of his head to verify his claimmof Martin smashing his head into the concrete.

4.) Therehad been several break-ins and robberies in Zimmermans neighborhood, and a lot of folks who owned homes in the area acknowledged this.

5.) Martin was mosy likely probing the neighborhood for a house to break into and ron, and was confrinted by Zimmerman instead. Angry and cornered with the facts, Martin then attacked Zimmerman and tried to kill him via blunt force trauma. Zimmerman, shouting for help and knowing he was going todie, got no help at allfrom the prople who overheard the commotion. Zimmerman then oulled his gun at the last resortand that was the end of Martin and his druggie/burglary/thug life.

And before you liberal assholes call me a wassssssssist, I remind you of point 1.



1.Ohhhh a teacher. Who gives a fuck. So was Ronald Janssen.

2. So theft = sentenced to death?

3. 2 times tops

4. So go after a person with no proof it was them?

5. Most likely? Do you have proof? He stole his skittles or what?

So basically if you are losing a fight, that you had part in starting by following a person, shoot them?

Bitch, please!
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Martin also smashed Zimmetmans nose and broke it. This horseshit democrwt LIE about Zimmrrman targeting Martin because he was nlack is a lie. If a feral thug was smashing your head into the concrete and broke your nose, what would you do after he tells you that you are going to die? BTW, the onlyracists here are Martin , his girlfiriend and the blacks who support this crap. Both the girlfriend and Martin used racist language to describe Zimmerman.

There may be CCTV video out there to vindicate Zimmerman, as he has welcomed the idea of using video to verify and prove his truthful side of everything. However, the prosecution behaves like the Nazi party, so destruction of evidence would certainly come as no shock to me.
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22
You cant even argue your facts.

Once someones "argument" is "fuck you"

They lost the argument.

Winner is me.



Thr hell you are, faggot.

Zimmerman defended his life as allowed by the Stand Your Ground law in the Stste of Florida.

I know a limp dick like you doesnt know shit about the law or thr facts of this case, since you argue mainly with raw emotion (much like the ignorant Nazi fucks on the prosecution)
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he was asked if he was following the kid.he said yes.the operator told him to stop following him.he didn't.eventually fought with the kid & killed him.guilty.case closed.



Simple. Yet to these bigots who hate black men (maybe jealous, cause idk what it could be), its justified.

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the internet is a place were people can be what they want & say what they want..no point in letting them rile you up..

you ever heard of a website called "stormfront"? its a place were all the disgruntled,closet racists can go and vent,lol

until they start coming out from being their PC and out of the trailer parks and actually confronting us face 2 face, then i can't take'em serious
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This has become almost as bad as the OJ trial.

I understand non Blacks not wanting this to be about race. But it is. Trayvon Martin was followed and murdered by Zimmerman because of his race. No matter how some might want to sugar coat or blur the issues, as Clueless stated, this is a reality. It is the reality for many others who have been killed, bullied, hurt, etc. because of prejudice. This is nothing new. It has been going on. So, it baffles me when people want to act as though they don't recognize this story. As though Black men being racially profiled is something new under the sun.

Ignorance and denial does not nullify the reality. It might help some people sleep better at night, but ask Trayvon Marton's family if people denying this reality makes the loss they have experienced and the pain they feel any less real to them.

Think about if it were your son/daughter/sister/brother. You wouldnt want excuses. You would want justice
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Posted by Sizzurp
In the end, did race play a factor in this? Yes, it did.

Which is why the media attempting to spin Zimmerman as a white guy is insidious. It's why a 10yr old picture of Zimmerman being portrayed as current is insidious. This kind of shit is injected into a case to misled and distract the public.



Opposed to the media using this as an opportunity to attempt to hold the justice system accountable for imposing justice (imagine that!) and to deconstruct derogatory racial stereotypes about Black males, they are instead attempting to use this case to create an even deeper racial divide among Black and White Americans. Sadly, members from both communities are drinking the koolaid.
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This has become almost as bad as the OJ trial.

I understand non Blacks not wanting this to be about race. But it is. Trayvon Martin was followed and murdered by Zimmerman because of his race. No matter how some might want to sugar coat or blur the issues, as Clueless stated, this is a reality. It is the reality for many others who have been killed, bullied, hurt, etc. because of prejudice. This is nothing new. It has been going on. So, it baffles me when people want to act as though they don't recognize this story. As though Black men being racially profiled is something new under the sun.

Ignorance and denial does not nullify the reality. It might help some people sleep better at night, but ask Trayvon Marton's family if people denying this reality makes the loss they have experienced and the pain they feel any less real to them.

Think about if it were your son/daughter/sister/brother. You wouldnt want excuses. You would want justice



It hurts me to my deepest soul. After i saw the pictures, it really hit home, this kid, he was just walking in his neighborhood. He could have been my brother.

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Truth.

The entitlement Zimmerman clearly has enrages me. This isnt the wild wild west. There is no such thing as vigilante justice! Especially, not towards an unarmed kid not bothering anyone.
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This has become almost as bad as the OJ trial.

I understand non Blacks not wanting this to be about race. But it is. Trayvon Martin was followed and murdered by Zimmerman because of his race. No matter how some might want to sugar coat or blur the issues, as Clueless stated, this is a reality. It is the reality for many others who have been killed, bullied, hurt, etc. because of prejudice. This is nothing new. It has been going on. So, it baffles me when people want to act as though they don't recognize this story. As though Black men being racially profiled is something new under the sun.

Ignorance and denial does not nullify the reality. It might help some people sleep better at night, but ask Trayvon Marton's family if people denying this reality makes the loss they have experienced and the pain they feel any less real to them.

Think about if it were your son/daughter/sister/brother. You wouldnt want excuses. You would want justice



the case cannot be won on race. the media is making it about race. is it about race? possibly. I know it made me uncomfortable knowing my boys could be in this situation.

the facts are zimmerman was told to leave the kid alone and he didn't.....and the child ended up dead.
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Yes, those are the facts.

My point is that the media could play a role in creating a constructive dialogue about such racial profiling, opposed to stirring the pot with inaccurate details, consequently, creating more hate and perpetuating the stereoptypes that might have been the motivating force behind the case to begin with.
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In the end, did race play a factor in this? Yes, it did.

Which is why the media attempting to spin Zimmerman as a white guy is insidious. It's why a 10yr old picture of Zimmerman being portrayed as current is insidious. This kind of shit is injected into a case to misled and distract the public.



Opposed to the media using this as an opportunity to attempt to hold the justice system accountable for imposing justice (imagine that!) and to deconstruct derogatory racial stereotypes about Black males, they are instead attempting to use this case to create an even deeper racial divide among Black and White Americans. Sadly, members from both communities are drinking the koolaid.



You're exactly right in your thoughts, imo. Our justice system needs a serious overhaul because it doesn't serve justice, just man-made law. And, the fact that our judge are elected on a partisan manner in many states is equally absurd.
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Instead this becoming a serious call for change it has turned into the Kimye of court trials.

WOMP WOMP WOMP.... 😢
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This has become almost as bad as the OJ trial.

I understand non Blacks not wanting this to be about race. But it is. Trayvon Martin was followed and murdered by Zimmerman because of his race. No matter how some might want to sugar coat or blur the issues, as Clueless stated, this is a reality. It is the reality for many others who have been killed, bullied, hurt, etc. because of prejudice. This is nothing new. It has been going on. So, it baffles me when people want to act as though they don't recognize this story. As though Black men being racially profiled is something new under the sun.

Ignorance and denial does not nullify the reality. It might help some people sleep better at night, but ask Trayvon Marton's family if people denying this reality makes the loss they have experienced and the pain they feel any less real to them.

Think about if it were your son/daughter/sister/brother. You wouldnt want excuses. You would want justice



It hurts me to my deepest soul. After i saw the pictures, it really hit home, this kid, he was just walking in his neighborhood. He could have been my brother.



Truth.

The entitlement Zimmerman clearly has enrages me. This isnt the wild wild west. There is no such thing as vigilante justice! Especially, not towards an unarmed kid not bothering anyone.



The interesting thing is that people who are defending Zimmermans actions are all white men, yet they throw the he's "Hispanic," tidbit in there to take away from the issue. A kid got shot and most likely because of the color of his skin. It's all interesting. Don't matter who kills a black boy as long as they dead.

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I think, to an extent, our society has become desensitized to such occurrences.

Look at who ever that was who just said water signs feel the need need to take up for others. Hello!?? This is a life. A life taken. I have lost both of my parents and I take life VERY seriously. Trayvon's parents did not lose a game of monopoly, they lost their son.

I cant... Nevermind. Let me stop.
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Posted by ReyAzteca
I am very objective and cold.Death is something I am now used to and there are alot of trivial emotions and thoughts that are rendered useless inside.Why?I have lost a significant amount of friends and family to illness,crime,drugs,etc...I have even witnessed people murdered and no justice brought to the culprits until later on,even if it is vigilante justice.

That does not mean I do not have a heart.

Nor does it mean that I can't empathize with someone who lost a family member.

What I do understand is the storm that comes in later.

As with other water signs who understand forgiveness,acceptance,and the grand picture of what The Higher Power has in mind,this is another ripple in the ocean that in itself could be just another wave crashing on the beach,or a tsunami that engulfs an entire coast.

I learned not to let my emotions get the best of me.If it makes me an asshole,okay.Perceive me as such.I am far from it.



I can understand that.

Our experiences shape us all. You have every right to perceive and react to any given situation as you so choose.
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Martin was marauding around the neighnorhood in search of a house to break into and rob. He was instead found and cornered by Z. Martin responded like a feral animal and tried to kill Z. Z yelled gor help, and no one helped him. Knowing he would probably die, Z pulled the gun as a last resort. ALL evidence vindicates Z thus far, and all witnesses vindicate him as well. No amount of race baiting BS or other mental instability from the Trayvon trash crowd can change the facts. You assholes are defending a druggie thuggie thief, and nothing more.
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