
RamOfPeace
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Posted by SensitiveBlues
I think women are generally wiser then men

Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves


Posted by SensitiveBluesPosted by HellDoradoWell the future will tell
saying "women are everything" means that "men are nothing."
do the math.click to expand

Posted by SensitiveBluesPosted by Sn1p3r187Not in a decade or two!
Let's not forget. You need a man and a woman to make a baby. If men are nothing then there's no future except a mass population drop (which is great).
Scienceclick to expand

Posted by starloverPosted by Sn1p3r187
Let's not forget. You need a man and a woman to make a baby. If men are nothing then there's no future except a mass population drop (which is great).
Who says men are nothing?click to expand

Posted by SensitiveBluesPosted by HellDoradoHa-ha I love men but this is bs!Posted by SensitiveBlueswhy wait for the future? the past and present already prove the irrationality of your statements.Posted by HellDoradoWell the future will tell
saying "women are everything" means that "men are nothing."
do the math.
men and women evolved alongside one another. women to protect the eggs. men to protect the women. the truth is that women cannot protect themselves. thats not sexism. think about the vulnerability of a pregnant woman. why does everyone give up seats for the pregnant woman?
because they are weak. and thats not a bad thing.
Seriously! Women don't need men we want men!
Get with itclick to expand

Posted by SensitiveBluesPosted by HellDoradoHa-ha I love men but this is bs!Posted by SensitiveBlueswhy wait for the future? the past and present already prove the irrationality of your statements.Posted by HellDoradoWell the future will tell
saying "women are everything" means that "men are nothing."
do the math.
men and women evolved alongside one another. women to protect the eggs. men to protect the women. the truth is that women cannot protect themselves. thats not sexism. think about the vulnerability of a pregnant woman. why does everyone give up seats for the pregnant woman?
because they are weak. and thats not a bad thing.
Seriously! Women don't need men we want men!
Get with itclick to expand

Posted by SensitiveBlues
Men are no longer needed to create sperm. Unfortunately

Posted by tizianiPosted by JahliaAnd we have patriarchy to blame for thatPosted by Sn1p3r187Agreed. I'm really sick the selfless stereotype of women. It's just not true.Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?click to expand


Posted by HellDoradoPosted by SensitiveBluesdont tell me to calm down. you're the one who is thinking with her emotions, not me.Posted by HellDoradoLooooool that's kind of true! But men are needed to change the lightbulb.Posted by SensitiveBluesyou dont love men, you love dick.Posted by HellDoradoHa-ha I love men but this is bs!Posted by SensitiveBlueswhy wait for the future? the past and present already prove the irrationality of your statements.Posted by HellDoradoWell the future will tell
saying "women are everything" means that "men are nothing."
do the math.
men and women evolved alongside one another. women to protect the eggs. men to protect the women. the truth is that women cannot protect themselves. thats not sexism. think about the vulnerability of a pregnant woman. why does everyone give up seats for the pregnant woman?
because they are weak. and thats not a bad thing.
Seriously! Women don't need men we want men!
Get with it
if you loved men, you would never suggest that women dont need men.
Calm down.
Y'all be OK for a few more decades you're safeclick to expand

Posted by JahliaPosted by Sn1p3r187Elaborate?Posted by tizianiPosted by JahliaAnd we have patriarchy to blame for thatPosted by Sn1p3r187Agreed. I'm really sick the selfless stereotype of women. It's just not true.Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?
How can we blame a patriarchy for that? If anything is to blame it's royalty and no limitation of their powers at the time and what they could do.click to expand

Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187That still takes place in a world where royalty is given power to rule by God, and in that narrative the ultimate expression of power and femininity is sacrifice and selflessness like Christ. Same thing in Hollywood scripts.Posted by tizianiPosted by JahliaAnd we have patriarchy to blame for thatPosted by Sn1p3r187Agreed. I'm really sick the selfless stereotype of women. It's just not true.Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?
How can we blame a patriarchy for that? If anything is to blame it's royalty and no limitation of their powers at the time and what they could do.click to expand


Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Well how you're going to separate hierarchy and the concept of "noblesse oblige" from royalty is going to be a neat trick, if you manage to pull that off.
That and the selfish decision to carry upon themselves that they could do whatever they want with their power because their royalty and you have to agree. Same behavior noted in men, the only thing that stopped them were armed uprisings, people stabbing them in the back, and the senate/congress/council removing them of their power.click to expand

Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberAnd it's nothing without a woman
You idiots need to remember the legendary words of the late great James Brown.
"This is a man's world."

Posted by JahliaPosted by Sn1p3r187But patriarchy was the flawed and dangerous idea that they created. It was pervasive and it contaminated most, if not all aspects of society. Even if abuse of power is the root problem, the fact remains that patriarchy is the destructive and sexist institution that was created. So I think thaPosted by JahliaPosted by Sn1p3r187Elaborate?Posted by tizianiPosted by JahliaAnd we have patriarchy to blame for thatPosted by Sn1p3r187Agreed. I'm really sick the selfless stereotype of women. It's just not true.Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?
How can we blame a patriarchy for that? If anything is to blame it's royalty and no limitation of their powers at the time and what they could do.
Going on from the abuse of powers of other people over time. Those who are suddenly given a position of power don't exactly know what to do with said power especially when you're given the power of millions lives in your hand. Most of them get their poor examples from the people who led before them or from a ruler who happened to do poorly and they sought to correct and right the wrongs, bring something new to the table, or do exactly as I said above and go crazy with the amount of power they have or have the potential to gain. Some even do it out of restoration of dominant ideas or religious faith in the case of Queen Mary I of England so they follow their own example on how they should be handled or do what everyone else does and kill them. A patriarchy isn't to blame. It's simple ill will, good intentions gone bad, or a simply having so much power they don't know what to do with it and in the end the power controls them. It's comes down to nature vs nurture. Not patriarchyclick to expand


Posted by Rambunctious76Posted by Sn1p3r187The list of male leaders who did just as much evil is twice as long. Let's start with the Roman Empire. Caligula, Nero...Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?
On the one hand you have Elizabeth Bathory, on the other you have Gilles de Rais.click to expand

Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Let's say you have a society based on hierarchy like you want. How are you going to make sure the people at the very top of your hierarchy don't abuse their power? Or that anyone from below doesn't suddenly come into power themselves? That's a natural risk of hierarchy.Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Well how you're going to separate hierarchy and the concept of "noblesse oblige" from royalty is going to be a neat trick, if you manage to pull that off.
That and the selfish decision to carry upon themselves that they could do whatever they want with their power because their royalty and you have to agree. Same behavior noted in men, the only thing that stopped them were armed uprisings, people stabbing them in the back, and the senate/congress/council removing them of their power.
I'm sorry Tiz i didn't get your question. Could you re-phrase that man?click to expand

Posted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.

Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187As you said, there's a lot of dishonesty in that in reality. The law in countries that have a parliament or congress is built to be exploited through loopholes. Effectively it's not really hierarchy in it's purest form.Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Let's say you have a society based on hierarchy like you want. How are you going to make sure the people at the very top of your hierarchy don't abuse their power? Or that anyone from below doesn't suddenly come into power themselves? That's a natural risk of hierarchy.Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Well how you're going to separate hierarchy and the concept of "noblesse oblige" from royalty is going to be a neat trick, if you manage to pull that off.
That and the selfish decision to carry upon themselves that they could do whatever they want with their power because their royalty and you have to agree. Same behavior noted in men, the only thing that stopped them were armed uprisings, people stabbing them in the back, and the senate/congress/council removing them of their power.
I'm sorry Tiz i didn't get your question. Could you re-phrase that man?
There's no honest way to make sure no one does abuse their power but putting them through peer evaluation and limiting over just exactly what they have power over via checks and balances is a good way to limit the power abuse. And you can always engrave something in stone that says "this shit has to get by a council of ten people before it can be passed" which can guarantee that there won't be an override of power from the top. If the council don't approve then it's not happening. For below, they could always go through a process that puts them in line as a successor to the top dog via evaluation of their leadership skills and what they can handle. Damn I think I just described U.S congress lolclick to expand

Posted by tiziani
I'd have to disagree. Look at in in practice, where the law spends more time workings for criminals than working against them lol. It's clear "good enough" just isn't good enough imo.
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberNo faxtural. It's the rest of the lyrics.Posted by ListenlearnteachHmmm, maybe....Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberAnd it's nothing without a woman
You idiots need to remember the legendary words of the late great James Brown.
"This is a man's world."click to expand
Posted by ListenlearnteachFactualPosted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberNo faxtural. It's the rest of the lyrics.Posted by ListenlearnteachHmmm, maybe....Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberAnd it's nothing without a woman
You idiots need to remember the legendary words of the late great James Brown.
"This is a man's world."click to expand

Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187Fair point.Posted by tiziani
I'd have to disagree. Look at in in practice, where the law spends more time workings for criminals than working against them lol. It's clear "good enough" just isn't good enough imo.
That's not always the case. The Checks and balances have to be very heavy and everything would need to be micromanaged to work properly. France ain't too bad. They don't seem corrupt there,click to expand



Posted by Sn1p3r187Proof? It's history. Just look it upPosted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.
Uh huh. What proof do you have?click to expand

Posted by tizianiActually no, most hung up people like that are predominantly feminist women in modern matriarchal USA.Posted by GreyWizThose people are hung up, in a patriarchal society.......
I can accept some women rulers who possess that great leadership ability or society can accept a women with great yang energy. However my default positions would still be patriarchy. it is much more natural and has lot more power behind it from multiple places. social acceptance of that woman will be tough though even from women. most people are so hung up on complete equality.
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Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187Proof? It's history. Just look it upPosted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.
Uh huh. What proof do you have?click to expand

Posted by tizianiIt used to be. With every passing year that I live here, it gets more and more matriarchal. And I mean I have something to compare it with, being raised in both soceities for approx 50% of my lifetime in each, at this point in time.Posted by RamOfPeaceAgain, no... that is a patriarchal society.Posted by tizianiActually no, most hung up people like that are predominantly feminist women in modern matriarchal USA.Posted by GreyWizThose people are hung up, in a patriarchal society.......
I can accept some women rulers who possess that great leadership ability or society can accept a women with great yang energy. However my default positions would still be patriarchy. it is much more natural and has lot more power behind it from multiple places. social acceptance of that woman will be tough though even from women. most people are so hung up on complete equality.
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Posted by Sn1p3r187On my phone. If you want to learn you can do it yourself. I didn't make this post for you.Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187Proof? It's history. Just look it upPosted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.
Uh huh. What proof do you have?
Uh no. You either provide proof in the form of link or video or point is invalid.click to expand

Posted by tizianiWell okay then, shoot and compare the two lol. I'd like to see.Posted by RamOfPeaceLolPosted by tizianiIt used to be. With every passing year that I live here, it gets more and more matriarchal. And I mean I have something to compare it with, being raised in both soceities for approx 50% of my lifetime in each, at this point in time.Posted by RamOfPeaceAgain, no... that is a patriarchal society.Posted by tizianiActually no, most hung up people like that are predominantly feminist women in modern matriarchal USA.Posted by GreyWizThose people are hung up, in a patriarchal society.......
I can accept some women rulers who possess that great leadership ability or society can accept a women with great yang energy. However my default positions would still be patriarchy. it is much more natural and has lot more power behind it from multiple places. social acceptance of that woman will be tough though even from women. most people are so hung up on complete equality.
you're comparing patriarchy vs patriarchy.
There's no logic in looking at years/centuries of patriarchy, identifying a few things about it that you don't like and saying "well this must be what matriarchy tastes like."
You'd have to actual look at the evidence of what a matriarchal society actually is like from the ground up. Like in regions of India or China that have been that way for millenia.click to expand

Posted by cuteboyI haven't met a more pretentious, feather-ruffling beta in my life tbh.
Matriarchal probably i dunno. whatever those two words mean.
you could have suspect DonJohnson to derail this topic if not for him being banned.

Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187On my phone. If you want to learn you can do it yourself. I didn't make this post for you.Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187Proof? It's history. Just look it upPosted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.
Uh huh. What proof do you have?
Uh no. You either provide proof in the form of link or video or point is invalid.click to expand

Posted by tiziani
Yeah, well I was also thinking about the Chinese Mosuo tribe where women take a different man to bed every night. Like a big swingers club. It's amazing. No more jealous manlets and no bitter women. Both of the excuses and resentment you're highlighting from either gender in a system that still sees only bi-gender relations is a product of patriarchy as we've experienced it. Let's face it, when any section of society is made out to be helpless and passive then they are absolved of responsiblity and make excuses. The best example was that thread in relationships lately over Germany and legal sex workers. The hypocrisy was comical.

Posted by Sn1p3r187good for you?Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187On my phone. If you want to learn you can do it yourself. I didn't make this post for you.Posted by ScenicPosted by Sn1p3r187Proof? It's history. Just look it upPosted by Scenic
Way back when we started off as a matriarchal society. Once cattle started to be used as property and for trade, it turned patriarchal since men wanted all the goods and property they were getting from this trade to be passed down. If they didn't do that, they wouldnt be able to pass their property down to their kin. After that, the roles switched and females couldn't pass down property. Just a little history.
Personally, an egalitarian society sounds better than either.
Uh huh. What proof do you have?
Uh no. You either provide proof in the form of link or video or point is invalid.
and your points been rendered. Thank you for registering but your validity of your statement balance is 0.click to expand

Posted by tizianiPosted by Sn1p3r187I really doubt it.Posted by tiziani
Yeah, well I was also thinking about the Chinese Mosuo tribe where women take a different man to bed every night. Like a big swingers club. It's amazing. No more jealous manlets and no bitter women. Both of the excuses and resentment you're highlighting from either gender in a system that still sees only bi-gender relations is a product of patriarchy as we've experienced it. Let's face it, when any section of society is made out to be helpless and passive then they are absolved of responsiblity and make excuses. The best example was that thread in relationships lately over Germany and legal sex workers. The hypocrisy was comical.
a bunch a swingers? Jesus I bet herpes and sysphilis were running rampant among their tribe.click to expand

Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.

Posted by Sn1p3r187I haven't tried to back up my claim at all and I don't intend to. I didn't post it to argue over it. if you don't agree with it then I don't care. I didn't post it for you to agree withPosted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.click to expand

Posted by Sn1p3r187Since I am all in favor of old school patriarchy, I'd have to support the Cap's message 😄Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.click to expand

Posted by RamOfPeaceno thanksPosted by Sn1p3r187Since I am all in favor of old school patriarchy, I'd have to support the Cap's message 😄Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.
In reality tho, he's correct in a logical sense. If you have no personal experience or the main source to back up your words, you'd just better remain silent and observe.click to expand

Posted by GreyWizThanks, I will gladly accept your hugs
*hugs scenic*
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Also, let's pretend we are not going to be talking about Muslim extremism of patriarchy.
So, which one would you prefer to live in?
Which type of household would you rather accept?