Sn1p3r187
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Posted by GreyWiz
*hugs scenic*
*slips wiz a $ 20* get yourself something nice.
Posted by Sn1p3r187Like I said, it was never my intention to back it up. Take it or leave it. I also don't support either side.Posted by RamOfPeacePosted by Sn1p3r187Since I am all in favor of old school patriarchy, I'd have to support the Cap's message 😄Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.
In reality tho, he's correct in a logical sense. If you have no personal experience or the main source to back up your words, you'd just better remain silent and observe.
Well thanks. But I'm hardly supporting a patriarchy. I'm against both archies here. I'm just breaking it down how she can't back her claim and things wouldn't be any better with a matriarchy in chargeclick to expand
Posted by GreyWiz
no need to be rude mate. let her be.
hey I'm letting her be. I was just giving you $ 20. Lol
Posted by RamOfPeacePosted by Sn1p3r187Since I am all in favor of old school patriarchy, I'd have to support the Cap's message 😄Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.
In reality tho, he's correct in a logical sense. If you have no personal experience or the main source to back up your words, you'd just better remain silent and observe.click to expand
But tell me. How well does it work in Russia?
Cats
I want to live in a society run by cats.
I want to live in a society run by cats.
lol
The only ones here whining about matriarchy are the ones who are benefiting the most from a patriarchal society. ...Of course they're going to protest. They're the ones that have the most to lose (all their privilege).
Go ahead, keep on arguing. You look like silly, sexist, douchebags. It's clear your arguments aren't based on logic, either, but emotion because *grunt grunt* I can't have my way!!
Gotta love topics like this. It really shows a lot of guys' true character here. Most of which, I'm not all surprised at. Their little facades crack quite a bit when it comes to these things.
And to whoever silly twat who was butthurt over her not taking his name? Are you familiar with why women take a dude's name? It dates way back to when women were considered property. PROPERTY. This is why she took on his name. He married her and she became his property, as did all of HER belongings. All HIS because he put a ring on it. You should be happy your wife to be is an educated woman and may have issue with doing something so archaic with a shitty history. Evolve already. Not her problem you suffer from tiny penis syndrome and are threatened by such things, you small minded child.
The only ones here whining about matriarchy are the ones who are benefiting the most from a patriarchal society. ...Of course they're going to protest. They're the ones that have the most to lose (all their privilege).
Go ahead, keep on arguing. You look like silly, sexist, douchebags. It's clear your arguments aren't based on logic, either, but emotion because *grunt grunt* I can't have my way!!
Gotta love topics like this. It really shows a lot of guys' true character here. Most of which, I'm not all surprised at. Their little facades crack quite a bit when it comes to these things.
And to whoever silly twat who was butthurt over her not taking his name? Are you familiar with why women take a dude's name? It dates way back to when women were considered property. PROPERTY. This is why she took on his name. He married her and she became his property, as did all of HER belongings. All HIS because he put a ring on it. You should be happy your wife to be is an educated woman and may have issue with doing something so archaic with a shitty history. Evolve already. Not her problem you suffer from tiny penis syndrome and are threatened by such things, you small minded child.
Posted by tizianiI read about that not so long ago and I wasn't sure if that is the sort of society we were talking about or not. The whole sleeping around thing is so abhorrent to me, and I don't believe a society can condition an individual to be inherently jealous or not, we are what we are.
Yeah, well I was also thinking about the Chinese Mosuo tribe where women take a different man to bed every night. Like a big swingers club. It's amazing. No more jealous manlets and no bitter women. Both of the excuses and resentment you're highlighting from either gender in a system that still sees only bi-gender relations is a product of patriarchy as we've experienced it. Let's face it, when any section of society is made out to be helpless and passive then they are absolved of responsiblity and make excuses. The best example was that thread in relationships lately over Germany and legal sex workers. The hypocrisy was comical.
So if we are talking about being in a historically matriarchal society vs the patriarchal one we are used to, what exactly would that look like here in the west? That is debatable. I'm currently looking at the discussion on that on bloody Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAskReddit/comments/1fmbv3/if_we_lived_in_a_historically_matriarchal_society
At the moment I'm preferring patriarchal society, and I identify as feminist, but not this crazy third wave feminism full of misandry and hypocrisy, I believe that gender roles are fine, and I believe we should have a choice to incorporate gender roles in our lifestyle, or not. Although I do admit it's easy to get worked up and angry when you have your head in the books and start to see sexism fucking everywhere now, all the time, and seeing past experiences in a much more jaded view.
Posted by tizianiCould you please link me? I must have missed that one and I could use something interesting to read before the neo citran knocks me out.Posted by GuardianAnuFashion industry and the porn industry have used that evolutionary conditioning to great exploitation. When Rabbit first came back he had a good thread on how men couldn't really handle the fact women have a healthier view on sex (and this is irrespective of sleeping around or not).Posted by tizianiI read about that not so long ago and I wasn't sure if that is the sort of society we were talking about or not. The whole sleeping around thing is so abhorrent to me, and I don't believe a society can condition an individual to be inherently jealous or not, we are what we are.
Yeah, well I was also thinking about the Chinese Mosuo tribe where women take a different man to bed every night. Like a big swingers club. It's amazing. No more jealous manlets and no bitter women. Both of the excuses and resentment you're highlighting from either gender in a system that still sees only bi-gender relations is a product of patriarchy as we've experienced it. Let's face it, when any section of society is made out to be helpless and passive then they are absolved of responsiblity and make excuses. The best example was that thread in relationships lately over Germany and legal sex workers. The hypocrisy was comical.
So if we are talking about being in a historically matriarchal society vs the patriarchal one we are used to, what exactly would that look like here in the west? That is debatable. I'm currently looking at the discussion on that on bloody Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAskReddit/comments/1fmbv3/if_we_lived_in_a_historically_matriarchal_society
At the moment I'm preferring patriarchal society, and I identify as feminist, but not this crazy third wave feminism full of misandry and hypocrisy, I believe that gender roles are fine, and I believe we should have a choice to incorporate gender roles in our lifestyle, or not. Although I do admit it's easy to get worked up and angry when you have your head in the books and start to see sexism fucking everywhere now, all the time, and seeing past experiences in a much more jaded view.click to expand
Posted by tizianiI just realized my request might be too much of a pain in the ass, lol.
Fashion industry and the porn industry have used that evolutionary conditioning to great exploitation. When Rabbit first came back he had a good thread on how men couldn't really handle the fact women have a healthier view on sex (and this is irrespective of sleeping around or not).
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberI'm feline left out. ”Posted by LillyPetalToo bad, you are not allowed.
Cats
I want to live in a society run by cats.click to expand
Posted by rockyroadicecream
lol
The only ones here whining about matriarchy are the ones who are benefiting the most from a patriarchal society. ...Of course they're going to protest. They're the ones that have the most to lose (all their privilege).
Go ahead, keep on arguing. You look like silly, sexist, douchebags. It's clear your arguments aren't based on logic, either, but emotion because *grunt grunt* I can't have my way!!
Gotta love topics like this. It really shows a lot of guys' true character here. Most of which, I'm not all surprised at. Their little facades crack quite a bit when it comes to these things.
And to whoever silly twat who was butthurt over her not taking his name? Are you familiar with why women take a dude's name? It dates way back to when women were considered property. PROPERTY. This is why she took on his name. He married her and she became his property, as did all of HER belongings. All HIS because he put a ring on it. You should be happy your wife to be is an educated woman and may have issue with doing something so archaic with a shitty history. Evolve already. Not her problem you suffer from tiny penis syndrome and are threatened by such things, you small minded child.
How about this? Go fuck yourself you retarded communist bastard.
Posted by Sn1p3r187It works well. Our women seek marriage outside the country for other reasons, one of them being sinply the fact that there has been a huge census gender imbalance, from which we never truly recovered since the 40s. Our human life losses were among the most mind-boggling.Posted by RamOfPeacePosted by Sn1p3r187Since I am all in favor of old school patriarchy, I'd have to support the Cap's message 😄Posted by GreyWiz
aww cap guy and pisces girl fight. cute.
Hardly a fight. More of someone not wanting present evidence because theyre trying really hard to back up their idea by making someone go in loopholes instead obliging a simple request- show me a link or video and I will consider your point.
In reality tho, he's correct in a logical sense. If you have no personal experience or the main source to back up your words, you'd just better remain silent and observe.
But tell me. How well does it work in Russia?click to expand
The mail order bride fame, which so many bitter foreign women or love-burned men like to spew out, is largely undeserved, as honestly there are no more gold diggers born in our parts of the world as there are in any other country.
Posted by starloverPosted by Sn1p3r187Wow you must have some strong issues going on to retaliate this wayPosted by rockyroadicecream
lol
The only ones here whining about matriarchy are the ones who are benefiting the most from a patriarchal society. ...Of course they're going to protest. They're the ones that have the most to lose (all their privilege).
Go ahead, keep on arguing. You look like silly, sexist, douchebags. It's clear your arguments aren't based on logic, either, but emotion because *grunt grunt* I can't have my way!!
Gotta love topics like this. It really shows a lot of guys' true character here. Most of which, I'm not all surprised at. Their little facades crack quite a bit when it comes to these things.
And to whoever silly twat who was butthurt over her not taking his name? Are you familiar with why women take a dude's name? It dates way back to when women were considered property. PROPERTY. This is why she took on his name. He married her and she became his property, as did all of HER belongings. All HIS because he put a ring on it. You should be happy your wife to be is an educated woman and may have issue with doing something so archaic with a shitty history. Evolve already. Not her problem you suffer from tiny penis syndrome and are threatened by such things, you small minded child.
How about this? Go fuck yourself you retarded communist bastard.
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Nah. I just hate Rocky because she's retarded and acts like an Educated idiot. Being the fact she tries be psuedo intelligent but still comes of an idiot.
Men lead.
Women support.
It will never change. (Thank heavens)
Women support.
It will never change. (Thank heavens)
Jesus Christ both of them suck, you all suck
I'm an anarchist in some ways so neither?
Patriarchal ..... I'd rather be governed by the practical reasoning of men, rather than basing reasoning from driven emotions.
Though women may think they are stronger because believe they do more for the comfort and necessity of life ... but, they do that because it has been taught as being their place to do it.
people flap their jaws about the modern woman ... but, EVERY woman was bred to have a role, and she knows it. We all know it. Maybe in another couple of generations ... but, as of now, there are still people alive and running households based off of the female having the wife role of taking full care of the entire family. So, even people still being born have this bred in them.
Still a 100 years from now ... perhaps, we could be ready for the kind of society where there aren't positions as patriarch or matriarch in practice. But, not now. As of now ... women are still boohoo about how someone looked at them, and cannot figure out for the life of them, what it means if he said he liked her but then didn't text her 100 times per hour to prove it.
No thank you.
Posted by P-Angel
... but, they do that because it has been taught as being their place to do it
Taught it from men. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, as much as women would like to believe that they are in charge of their entire family ... they only are so because of the man having the role of The Man
If you look at single mothers, (most) of them are actually teaching their children that women are to chase men. They are to cling onto whatever he throws to her.
By her doing that .. by her value being dependent upon a man's approval is STILL fucking accepting that men rule.
It's horrendous, yet, this is our life. But, there is still hope ....
we, as women can strive to be emotionally secure in ourselves enough that we won't have to seek the approval of men.
look at dxp, for an example .... a woman cannot even handle a book being at an ex's house, without wanting to turn the world upside down .... and people want to actually consider a society run by women?
lol, I'd rather clean those dirty toilets than pretend that our current modern woman is ready for such a task
Posted by starloverIf you are representative of the Irish female, I can totally understand.
......sadly the amount of fathers avoiding their parenting roles are now more the exception to the rule here
Adios.
Posted by JahliaI realize everything I just said
Posted by P-AngelYou do realize that a lot of those characteristics that You seem to dislike heavily in women, are a result of society instead of inherently biological right? And don't even apply to all women rightt? Or even most of them really. And that the idea that men generally use practical reasoning is very debatable. And what do you mean that every women was bred to have a role?
Patriarchal ..... I'd rather be governed by the practical reasoning of men, rather than basing reasoning from driven emotions.
Though women may think they are stronger because believe they do more for the comfort and necessity of life ... but, they do that because it has been taught as being their place to do it.
people flap their jaws about the modern woman ... but, EVERY woman was bred to have a role, and she knows it. We all know it. Maybe in another couple of generations ... but, as of now, there are still people alive and running households based off of the female having the wife role of taking full care of the entire family. So, even people still being born have this bred in them.
Still a 100 years from now ... perhaps, we could be ready for the kind of society where there aren't positions as patriarch or matriarch in practice. But, not now. As of now ... women are still boohoo about how someone looked at them, and cannot figure out for the life of them, what it means if he said he liked her but then didn't text her 100 times per hour to prove it.
No thank you.
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do you realize the reality of what I said? ... or are you just being defiant because it's not pretty enough for your mind to wear for awhile to think about?
Do you realize the difference between a statement and a pondering? ... because it doesn't appear so.
Posted by seraph
There are powerful, productive and independent women everywhere.
However, they are apart of the society, and not the exclusive.
Just as on the other side of the coin .... there puny men who act like wusses, but they also cannot be used to make the determination of a whole.
Again ... so long as there are people still alive who are conditioning young minds, society has not changed in terms of men and woman having a gender role.
And same goes for religion, race, orientation
A mind can change overnight ...... it takes decades, maybe even a century to change a whole society.
Posted by JahliaPosted by P-AngelYou know most single mothers? What black magic did You use to contact them all? Or, because you said most-more than fifty percent of them. Let alone allow you to watch how they parented their child? [>.Posted by P-Angel
... but, they do that because it has been taught as being their place to do it
Taught it from men. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, as much as women would like to believe that they are in charge of their entire family ... they only are so because of the man having the role of The Man
If you look at single mothers, (most) of them are actually teaching their children that women are to chase men. They are to cling onto whatever he throws to her.
By her doing that .. by her value being dependent upon a man's approval is STILL fucking accepting that men rule.
It's horrendous, yet, this is our life. But, there is still hope ....
we, as women can strive to be emotionally secure in ourselves enough that we won't have to seek the approval of men.
look at dxp, for an example .... a woman cannot even handle a book being at an ex's house, without wanting to turn the world upside down .... and people want to actually consider a society run by women?
lol, I'd rather clean those dirty toilets than pretend that our current modern woman is ready for such a taskclick to expand
You are free to take personally anything you choose.
Glad I could be of service to you ... we are all looking for something to hold on our sleeves.
Don't forget dat ass.
Women have more power if men are in power than if women are in power, they can manipulate the higher ups with their pussies but they just give it away for free.
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11^^^^ Don Johnson fake account?
Women have more power if men are in power than if women are in power, they can manipulate the higher ups with their pussies but they just give it away for free.
If everybody in this thread would grow up and stop having fetish of sexual domination/submission and/or stopped having insecurities about the other gender there wouldn't be a thread to start with.
Most people here live in a USA/europe type of society that is almost totally gender neutral, I wouldn't call it patriarchal by any mean.
Most people here live in a USA/europe type of society that is almost totally gender neutral, I wouldn't call it patriarchal by any mean.
Posted by starloverPosted by Sn1p3r187But you are showing yourself to be what you accused her of. LolPosted by starloverPosted by Sn1p3r187Wow you must have some strong issues going on to retaliate this wayPosted by rockyroadicecream
lol
The only ones here whining about matriarchy are the ones who are benefiting the most from a patriarchal society. ...Of course they're going to protest. They're the ones that have the most to lose (all their privilege).
Go ahead, keep on arguing. You look like silly, sexist, douchebags. It's clear your arguments aren't based on logic, either, but emotion because *grunt grunt* I can't have my way!!
Gotta love topics like this. It really shows a lot of guys' true character here. Most of which, I'm not all surprised at. Their little facades crack quite a bit when it comes to these things.
And to whoever silly twat who was butthurt over her not taking his name? Are you familiar with why women take a dude's name? It dates way back to when women were considered property. PROPERTY. This is why she took on his name. He married her and she became his property, as did all of HER belongings. All HIS because he put a ring on it. You should be happy your wife to be is an educated woman and may have issue with doing something so archaic with a shitty history. Evolve already. Not her problem you suffer from tiny penis syndrome and are threatened by such things, you small minded child.
How about this? Go fuck yourself you retarded communist bastard.
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Nah. I just hate Rocky because she's retarded and acts like an Educated idiot. Being the fact she tries be psuedo intelligent but still comes of an idiot.click to expand
Oh what? A communist? My views don't involve submitting the masses to total control of idiots like her under the guise of fighting for equality when it's control they want. I don't like both archies but to be honest I've never liked Rocky and that won't change. She just comes by on a thread to show how much of a retard she is and let her angsty feelings blow up on everyone
Posted by starloverClose enough.....you reside there.Posted by CapTennBut I am not Irish, dearPosted by starloverIf you are representative of the Irish female, I can totally understand.
......sadly the amount of fathers avoiding their parenting roles are now more the exception to the rule here
Adios.click to expand
It's comical to believe the USA is a (true) patriarchy in the first place.
Women raise our children for the most part.
Women teach our children in school.
Women file "no fault" divorce at alarming rates, and family courts transfer hubby/daddy's wealth to mommy/ex-wife.
Women abusing men is comedic gold.
Healthcare awareness and funding for women triples that of men.
Enormous disparity in sentencing for equivalent crimes committed (in the female favor).
The list goes on, and on.
What asshole men at the top set up this "patriarchy"? If that's what they tried to accomplish, the fucked up royally.
Women raise our children for the most part.
Women teach our children in school.
Women file "no fault" divorce at alarming rates, and family courts transfer hubby/daddy's wealth to mommy/ex-wife.
Women abusing men is comedic gold.
Healthcare awareness and funding for women triples that of men.
Enormous disparity in sentencing for equivalent crimes committed (in the female favor).
The list goes on, and on.
What asshole men at the top set up this "patriarchy"? If that's what they tried to accomplish, the fucked up royally.
Posted by starloverThere are currently 7 billion people on earth.
.....and the women carry babies for 9monhs, go through excruciating childbirth, breast feed, lose sleep, are there day in day out for their children
Staying power?
It doesn't seem very unique, or impressive, to be honest.
What else you got?
I found this article and thought it was interesting:
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-women-are-better-leaders-2014-1
It states that basically, women are better leaders in the working world and that it may be correlated to the necessity of having to try harder for recognition.
Once again, this is a take it or leave it thing and I am not for either side of this debate. I'm not going to argue over it. And I will requote myself if I need to. I found it rather educational, as I was unaware of these stats. Sample size is 16k people. Hopefully you may, as well.
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-women-are-better-leaders-2014-1
It states that basically, women are better leaders in the working world and that it may be correlated to the necessity of having to try harder for recognition.
Once again, this is a take it or leave it thing and I am not for either side of this debate. I'm not going to argue over it. And I will requote myself if I need to. I found it rather educational, as I was unaware of these stats. Sample size is 16k people. Hopefully you may, as well.
Posted by tizianiNo man is stupid enough to believe that "a woman did this to me", as women are incapable of doing such things to a man without the assistance of another man, and initiation of force called "the law".Posted by CapTennThe men at the top are laughing in plain daylight. Most of all because everyone will just passively accept being controlled and come up with excuses like "women did this to me."
It's comical to believe the USA is a (true) patriarchy in the first place.
Women raise our children for the most part.
Women teach our children in school.
Women file "no fault" divorce at alarming rates, and family courts transfer hubby/daddy's wealth to mommy/ex-wife.
Women abusing men is comedic gold.
Healthcare awareness and funding for women triples that of men.
Enormous disparity in sentencing for equivalent crimes committed (in the female favor).
The list goes on, and on.
What asshole men at the top set up this "patriarchy"? If that's what they tried to accomplish, the fucked up royally.
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The time of being controlled has a shelf life, and that date is drawing nearer. And, there will be hell to pay when the day actually arrives.
You are right about the men at the top laughing, however. But, their day will come......it always does.
Posted by HellDoradoPosted by starloverrefer to my last point.Posted by HellDoradoBut we have a choice to be good mothers after they are bornPosted by starloveryou act like they have a choice.
.....and the women carry babies for 9monhs, go through excruciating childbirth, breast feed, lose sleep, are there day in day out for their children
Staying power?
We have a choice to beastieed or not
We have a choice to stay or run way and leave baby wifh dad
but i think you're also forgetting. you cant hide maternity in the same way as paternity.
women dont have the same ability to run away.click to expand
lol, sorry mang. I just wanted to post this-
lol sorry mang. I just wanted to post that. 😆
Posted by JahliaThird.Posted by Sn1p3r187Agreed. I'm really sick the selfless stereotype of women. It's just not true.Posted by SensitiveBlues
Matriarchal societies aren't anti men it's just that women get to make many of the decisions!
This is healthy because women think of all men think of themselves
That is actually not true. I don't think you should make assumptions. Plenty of women who thought of themselves and did nothing but evil, for example- Queen Mary I of England, Magaret Thatcher (at least I think she was a bad leader), Empress Wu Zetian, Isabella I of Castile, Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Elizabeth Bathory. Must I go on?click to expand
Posted by RamOfPeaceWhat's funny is that their are studies out there will Female domineering attitudes/actions rub BOTH genders the wrong way when they see it/endure it.
*puts the popcorn bowl aside*
We have a wise saying in Russia that goes something like "Man is the head, and woman is the neck", yet it is still traditoinally interpreted as patriarchal model of a man being the leader and provider, while woman keeps the hearth. In a way, Slav women let their men lead the way, but in such a way that if we need something done our way, we let men believe that it's them who are in charge. We don't practice range shooting at the male ego in public, nor even 1 to 1. It's an art of female subtlety of suggestion.
In biological and lengthy historical sense, it is the way to go.
As far as USA goes, I'd love to see it revert back to something close of the 60s society model, with perhaps some modernized concepts here and there.
Female dominance is a pretty disgusting concept, unless you're serious, and planning to go all the way and do the Mr(s) Jenner thang to solidify the statement.
To be honest, it looks like females LOST power they had in exchange for using male methods.
I mean it's sad when they have what society says they should have, yet they're clueless as to why they can't enjoy it as much as they thought or outright hate it.
Posted by FrostAndBite
All the posts remind me of a study I read about a couple years ago. They compared satisfaction in heterosexual couples based on feminist values. They basically found that as long as the man held feminist values, the marriage ranked for a higher continuous satisfaction for both partners over time regardless of if the wives were feminist or not.
I'm assuming the study was done in the US. So it says something very interesting about the long standing undercurrent of patriarchy.
Still I hate listening to third wave feminists run off at the mouth about patriarchy. They're none too fond of fellow women who don't think exactly like them and suppose we must be brainwashed weaklings who don't embrace our female power. Barf.
That's communism in a nutshell. At least American communism from the left.
This is funny, mainly due to the fact people actually believe one gender can actually all agree to oppress the other in any context as a whole.
Historically speaking, if you had money, power or influence you could do anything you wanted.
If not, you conformed and played by the rules to get status, influence and wealth.
That's what really oppresses people. Yes, culture wise, the gender-division of labor can look really shitty.
Women aren't encouraged to just become leader of the tribe/mayor/president etc
Men are always expected to throw their lives away at the drop of a hat for women, country, family etc..
I pick Patriarchy, since that link with functioning matriarchies got looked over since they weren't First world countries with first world problems.
Seriously, that's insulting to women who managed to avoid the male domination plot that all the men all over the world agreed to due since the dawn of time. 😐
On a serious note, why does everyone think one gender will just sit idly by while the other power plays?
Historically speaking, if you had money, power or influence you could do anything you wanted.
If not, you conformed and played by the rules to get status, influence and wealth.
That's what really oppresses people. Yes, culture wise, the gender-division of labor can look really shitty.
Women aren't encouraged to just become leader of the tribe/mayor/president etc
Men are always expected to throw their lives away at the drop of a hat for women, country, family etc..
I pick Patriarchy, since that link with functioning matriarchies got looked over since they weren't First world countries with first world problems.
Seriously, that's insulting to women who managed to avoid the male domination plot that all the men all over the world agreed to due since the dawn of time. 😐
On a serious note, why does everyone think one gender will just sit idly by while the other power plays?
Posted by SirHornsThank you, I was waiting for somebody to point that out about the link.
This is funny, mainly due to the fact people actually believe one gender can actually all agree to oppress the other in any context as a whole.
Historically speaking, if you had money, power or influence you could do anything you wanted.
If not, you conformed and played by the rules to get status, influence and wealth.
That's what really oppresses people. Yes, culture wise, the gender-division of labor can look really shitty.
Women aren't encouraged to just become leader of the tribe/mayor/president etc
Men are always expected to throw their lives away at the drop of a hat for women, country, family etc..
I pick Patriarchy, since that link with functioning matriarchies got looked over since they weren't First world countries with first world problems.
Seriously, that's insulting to women who managed to avoid the male domination plot that all the men all over the world agreed to due since the dawn of time. 😐
On a serious note, why does everyone think one gender will just sit idly by while the other power plays?
Posted by SirHornsMost of the studies that aim to be politically incorrect, or threatening to stir up mayhem in society - whether gender, race, sexuality, etc focused - typically don't make it out into public.Posted by RamOfPeaceWhat's funny is that their are studies out there will Female domineering attitudes/actions rub BOTH genders the wrong way when they see it/endure it.
*puts the popcorn bowl aside*
We have a wise saying in Russia that goes something like "Man is the head, and woman is the neck", yet it is still traditoinally interpreted as patriarchal model of a man being the leader and provider, while woman keeps the hearth. In a way, Slav women let their men lead the way, but in such a way that if we need something done our way, we let men believe that it's them who are in charge. We don't practice range shooting at the male ego in public, nor even 1 to 1. It's an art of female subtlety of suggestion.
In biological and lengthy historical sense, it is the way to go.
As far as USA goes, I'd love to see it revert back to something close of the 60s society model, with perhaps some modernized concepts here and there.
Female dominance is a pretty disgusting concept, unless you're serious, and planning to go all the way and do the Mr(s) Jenner thang to solidify the statement.
To be honest, it looks like females LOST power they had in exchange for using male methods.
I mean it's sad when they have what society says they should have, yet they're clueless as to why they can't enjoy it as much as they thought or outright hate it.click to expand
Seeing as if how much pro-matriarchy propaganda hits usa's free roaming interwebs resources, I'd say that people should once again reconsider their opinion on this country being a "patriarchy" in present time.
@RamOfPeace
They can work any job, live and die alone and yet somehow men are still at the root of most/all their problems.
They don't say a thing about the all the areas and jobs that females are over-represented in.
They're too busy attacking ANYTHING that has a predominately male group attention.
I just can't take them seriously anymore, since it seems they don't even care about how things work or the consequences that will occur by changing things. They just want this 50% thing in everything so that they can have the "equality" ideal on paper.
Good luck trying to get women to go into coal mining, fishing, logging, firefighting, etc where their is high chance of injury and death.
We can't just simply make it so that men and women as seen as equals IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. Both get seen as accountable for their actions and both get punished equally. Nope, hell, family courts here will fuck over the man and kids so long as the women get's her way or the best outcome.
But yes, the more they say their equal/better, the more it's clear it's an affirmation they tell themselves then an actual truth.
They can work any job, live and die alone and yet somehow men are still at the root of most/all their problems.
They don't say a thing about the all the areas and jobs that females are over-represented in.
They're too busy attacking ANYTHING that has a predominately male group attention.
I just can't take them seriously anymore, since it seems they don't even care about how things work or the consequences that will occur by changing things. They just want this 50% thing in everything so that they can have the "equality" ideal on paper.
Good luck trying to get women to go into coal mining, fishing, logging, firefighting, etc where their is high chance of injury and death.
We can't just simply make it so that men and women as seen as equals IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. Both get seen as accountable for their actions and both get punished equally. Nope, hell, family courts here will fuck over the man and kids so long as the women get's her way or the best outcome.
But yes, the more they say their equal/better, the more it's clear it's an affirmation they tell themselves then an actual truth.
Posted by RamOfPeaceha! my father used to say this to me when i was growing up. the second part he used to add was "but the neck decides which way the head will turn".
*puts the popcorn bowl aside*
We have a wise saying in Russia that goes something like "Man is the head, and woman is the neck",
i haven't read the thread. should i?
i have little faith in both sexes if that counts for anything?
Patriarchal. If there must be one leadership I'd rather it be under a mans terms.
Posted by jeaneI think of My Big Fat Greek Wedding when I heard that example haha.Posted by RamOfPeaceha! my father used to say this to me when i was growing up. the second part he used to add was "but the neck decides which way the head will turn".
*puts the popcorn bowl aside*
We have a wise saying in Russia that goes something like "Man is the head, and woman is the neck",
i haven't read the thread. should i?
i have little faith in both sexes if that counts for anything?click to expand
Yo whoever said that USA was a present day patriarchy, let's review this comic strip again:
http://www.funnyjunk.com/21st+century+marriage+divorce/funny-pictures/5749296/
http://www.funnyjunk.com/21st+century+marriage+divorce/funny-pictures/5749296/
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