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What pisses me off is that so man people will say, "I'm OCD" as if putting all of your pencils in order according to height gives you this affliction. It's much more than that and contrary to popular belief, it's not just those who hoard or obsessively wash their hands/have hygiene issues who are debilitated by this disorder.
There are ways in which it OCD manifests itself. I happened to find this student vid that describes what OCD is like for a "Counter." Our minds work in ridiculous ways and if I didn't know better, this chick crawled inside my head one day and put it on film.
There are ways in which it OCD manifests itself. I happened to find this student vid that describes what OCD is like for a "Counter." Our minds work in ridiculous ways and if I didn't know better, this chick crawled inside my head one day and put it on film.
i have asked you never to post in my threads. obsessively think about that and compulsively do as you're told.
Posted by tubbyscubby
What pisses me off is that so man people will say, "I'm OCD" as if putting all of your pencils in order according to height gives you this affliction. It's much more than that and contrary to popular belief, it's not just those who hoard or obsessively wash their hands/have hygiene issues who are debilitated by this disorder.
There are ways in which it OCD manifests itself.
A large percentage of the population have ocd tendencies without it turning into full blown ocd. It's probably part of our survival instinct wiring, but with the full blown condition is just goes a bit haywire. The full blown variety can be triggered by anxiety and as anxiety messes up our brain chemicals life changing stressful events or traumas can trigger this in susceptible individuals. So there are plenty of pencil sorters out there who may develop full blown ocd symptoms if the environment is right.
I have my own obsessive compulsive thing about checking everything is switched off two or three times when leaving the house if I am the only one there. After a few days I become a bit relaxed so in some ways it's linked to anxiety of being alone maybe. But I don't consider myself ocd in any way shape or form other than this little ritual I have to go through because of anxieties about fire safety/security etc. The only other time Ive had something similar was when I changed schools aged twelve and had a new environment with a need to make new friends in a scary big school. I went through a phase of having to check certain things when looking out of the window on the train home each day. Clearly a security blanket type thing when youre anxious. Ive never had this since so clearly it was a response to that particular life event. So I think it's linked to our coping mechanisms when dealing with something we fear and in many cases it's perfectly normal. Diagnosing it as a fixed condition without looking into and addressing the causes is a waste of time.
I think the point at which it becomes a very serious condition is when it takes over your life to the point that you cannot do anything normal any more. That happened to my friend's sister and she ended up spending hours washing the same dishes over and again. She ended up needing hospitalisation for a while and then therapy and drugs to help her feel ok again. She is ok now, but the anxiety she suffere
but the anxiety she suffered was the result of losing control in her marriage due to a domineering husband, and finding that as the dishes were the only things under her control she retreated into using those to control her husband.
can you be a little bit pregnant? then you can't be a little bit OCD.
normal people will wonder, "did i turn the iron off?" "did i leave the stove on?" "eeewhew, i touched that bathroom door, need to wash my hands." this is vastly different from goes on in the mind of someone with OCD.
the sad part is the disorder, like add/adhd have been become a part of american culture. your child is hyperactive? adhd, now take this pill. you refuse to touch public door knobs. ocd, now take this pill.
OCD, like any addiction, is manageable...until it's not. a person may drink everyday or use cocaine for years...decades before their addiction gets out of hand. did they become an addict in year 20 or were they an addict in year 2? the problem is always there. just because they're not pissing on themselves while in a drunken stupor or stealing your tv doesn't make them any less the addict.
normal people will wonder, "did i turn the iron off?" "did i leave the stove on?" "eeewhew, i touched that bathroom door, need to wash my hands." this is vastly different from goes on in the mind of someone with OCD.
the sad part is the disorder, like add/adhd have been become a part of american culture. your child is hyperactive? adhd, now take this pill. you refuse to touch public door knobs. ocd, now take this pill.
OCD, like any addiction, is manageable...until it's not. a person may drink everyday or use cocaine for years...decades before their addiction gets out of hand. did they become an addict in year 20 or were they an addict in year 2? the problem is always there. just because they're not pissing on themselves while in a drunken stupor or stealing your tv doesn't make them any less the addict.
Posted by brobert
THIS THREAD JUST GOT AWESOME.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I about spit out my coffee in laughter.
yes brobert, kscorp has better understanding because she/he cut/paste more material. i will cut and paste more diligently next time.
@kscorp - "So yes, someone who spends time arranging their pencils in a certain order can be said to suffer with obssessive-compulsive tendencies if they meet 4 of the above listed criteria. I could post the criteria necessarily for meeting OCD as well."
don't read much eh? i said...
"What pisses me off is that so man people will say, "I'm OCD" as if putting all of your pencils in order according to height gives you this affliction. It's much more than that and contrary to popular belief, it's not just those who hoard or obsessively wash their hands/have hygiene issues who are debilitated by this disorder."
now how is that different from what you said? exactly, it's not. simply being orderly does not indicate an OCD diagnosis. did i not say that? did you not say that? so uhm...yeah, thanks for the unnecessary KITBS.
it's not about diagnosing a disorder. i will leave it to your physician/psychiatrist/psychologist to do that. as seavixen said...
I hear you about people saying "I'm so OCD about...blah blah" it has become a figure of speech like "I'm retarded" or "That's so gay"...
^^^exactly my point. thanks for getting it 🙂
@kscorp - "So yes, someone who spends time arranging their pencils in a certain order can be said to suffer with obssessive-compulsive tendencies if they meet 4 of the above listed criteria. I could post the criteria necessarily for meeting OCD as well."
don't read much eh? i said...
"What pisses me off is that so man people will say, "I'm OCD" as if putting all of your pencils in order according to height gives you this affliction. It's much more than that and contrary to popular belief, it's not just those who hoard or obsessively wash their hands/have hygiene issues who are debilitated by this disorder."
now how is that different from what you said? exactly, it's not. simply being orderly does not indicate an OCD diagnosis. did i not say that? did you not say that? so uhm...yeah, thanks for the unnecessary KITBS.
it's not about diagnosing a disorder. i will leave it to your physician/psychiatrist/psychologist to do that. as seavixen said...
I hear you about people saying "I'm so OCD about...blah blah" it has become a figure of speech like "I'm retarded" or "That's so gay"...
^^^exactly my point. thanks for getting it 🙂
wow, you are THICK!
"Too many people have a misunderstanding of what many of these disorders are, what it means to live with them, and exactly what goes into the diagnosis of such a disorder."
^^^yeah genius, that's what the thread was about...in general. it was not about let's play internet doctor, go right ahead. i mean yeah, that's the responsible and professional thing to do.
"I merely used your example of arranging pencils to explain that yes it could be a part of OCD or at the very least of OCPD."
^^^totally contradicts your first point. now people who arrange pencils are going to think that they have a disorder when in reality, they just like to keep a neat desk. you fail to see the point don't you? exactly. you probably diagnose every child that yells with ADHD.
"Too many people have a misunderstanding of what many of these disorders are, what it means to live with them, and exactly what goes into the diagnosis of such a disorder."
^^^yeah genius, that's what the thread was about...in general. it was not about let's play internet doctor, go right ahead. i mean yeah, that's the responsible and professional thing to do.
"I merely used your example of arranging pencils to explain that yes it could be a part of OCD or at the very least of OCPD."
^^^totally contradicts your first point. now people who arrange pencils are going to think that they have a disorder when in reality, they just like to keep a neat desk. you fail to see the point don't you? exactly. you probably diagnose every child that yells with ADHD.
uote>Posted by tubbyscubby
normal people will wonder, "did i turn the iron off?" "did i leave the stove on?" "eeewhew, i touched that bathroom door, need to wash my hands." this is vastly different from goes on in the mind of someone with OCD.
both are related to anxiety and both ocd and an anxious personality have links to the formation of the amygdala (as do various other conditions thought to be genetic or to originate during foetal development.
Posted by tubbyscubby
the sad part is the disorder, like add/adhd have been become a part of american culture. your child is hyperactive? adhd, now take this pill. you refuse to touch public door knobs. ocd, now take this pill.click to expand
that's a completely separate issue.
Posted by tubbyscubby
OCD, like any addiction, is manageable...until it's not. a person may drink everyday or use cocaine for years...decades before their addiction gets out of hand. did they become an addict in year 20 or were they an addict in year 2? the problem is always there. just because they're not pissing on themselves while in a drunken stupor or stealing your tv doesn't make them any less the addict.
Youre contradicting your earlier statement that there are no variations in severity. Anyone who has the underlying physiology and the enviromental factors likely to trigger the disorder is susceptible to develop it if conditions are right. Like schizophrenia they may never develop it despite having a genetic predisposition if they are not exposed triggers.
Posted by tubbyscubby
can you be a little bit pregnant? then you can't be a little bit OCD.
Its not comparable with pregnancy and is on a spectrum meaning you can be a little or you can be a lot. It varies with every case.
Posted by seavixen2
I hear you about people saying "I'm so OCD about...blah blah" it has become a figure of speech like "I'm retarded" or "That's so gay"...
This may be gay but I reckon it's actually something positive, because it has demystified such disorders and made them more acceptable. At least it generates interest and understanding.
Posted by Kaleidescorp44
Actually tubbscubby, I'm a clinical social worker.
are you really? i never thought i would meet another of my kind here, of all places! well, i'm not technically one yet, but sooooo close. 😛
@cappy - "Youre contradicting your earlier statement that there are no variations in severity. Anyone who has the underlying physiology and the enviromental factors likely to trigger the disorder is susceptible to develop it if conditions are right. Like schizophrenia they may never develop it despite having a genetic predisposition if they are not exposed triggers."
replay given that you folks don't read...
"OCD, like any addiction, is manageable...until it's not. a person may drink everyday or use cocaine for years...decades before their addiction gets out of hand. did they become an addict in year 20 or were they an addict in year 2? the problem is always there. just because they're not pissing on themselves while in a drunken stupor or stealing your tv doesn't make them any less the addict."
^^^there's your "variations."
once you have the disorder, you have it for life. you either manage it with therapy, techniques or medicate. just as an addict/alcoholic who stops using will ALWAYS be their disease, someone who suffers from this condition is never "cured."
also do you realize that there is no known cause for schizophrenia/ocd/add/adhd/bipolar/etc? if you don't know the cause, you can't rightly say that it's a condition that exists at birth, that it's "developed" or the result of "triggers." and this is PRECISELY why i wanted to avoid this type of discussion because if people who are lots smarter, with far more letters behind their name don't know the cause, i'll be damned if any of you do.
but again, thanks for TOTALLY missing the point. thanks for doing exactly what prompted the thread in the first place. a bunch of dime store psychologists with internet access who've watched one too many episodes of Monk believing that disorders can be surmised by activities...the number of times you wash your hands and oh, according to the "clinical social worker," how you align your pencils.
replay given that you folks don't read...
"OCD, like any addiction, is manageable...until it's not. a person may drink everyday or use cocaine for years...decades before their addiction gets out of hand. did they become an addict in year 20 or were they an addict in year 2? the problem is always there. just because they're not pissing on themselves while in a drunken stupor or stealing your tv doesn't make them any less the addict."
^^^there's your "variations."
once you have the disorder, you have it for life. you either manage it with therapy, techniques or medicate. just as an addict/alcoholic who stops using will ALWAYS be their disease, someone who suffers from this condition is never "cured."
also do you realize that there is no known cause for schizophrenia/ocd/add/adhd/bipolar/etc? if you don't know the cause, you can't rightly say that it's a condition that exists at birth, that it's "developed" or the result of "triggers." and this is PRECISELY why i wanted to avoid this type of discussion because if people who are lots smarter, with far more letters behind their name don't know the cause, i'll be damned if any of you do.
but again, thanks for TOTALLY missing the point. thanks for doing exactly what prompted the thread in the first place. a bunch of dime store psychologists with internet access who've watched one too many episodes of Monk believing that disorders can be surmised by activities...the number of times you wash your hands and oh, according to the "clinical social worker," how you align your pencils.
Posted by cappy~go~luckytooPosted by seavixen2
I hear you about people saying "I'm so OCD about...blah blah" it has become a figure of speech like "I'm retarded" or "That's so gay"...
This may be gay but I reckon it's actually something positive, because it has demystified such disorders and made them more acceptable. At least it generates interest and understanding.click to expand
^^^actually, just shows how stupid, immature, biased and ignorant you are. you just called being gay a "disorder." you're such a tool.
"also do you realize that there is no known cause for schizophrenia/ocd/add/adhd/bipolar/etc? if you don't know the cause, you can't rightly say that it's a condition that exists at birth, that it's "developed" or the result of "triggers.""
based on current research its a combo of genetic (physiological), gestation and environmental factors. The amygdala is the area currently being studied as the key link between many such disorders. There's no reason why if you have physical illnesses that are linked to genetics development and environmental triggers that you would not have a similar logical link to mental health. Its not that the theories are not out there, some have not been proven, but theories are always there to be disproven, so we only know so much of science at any point in time, we don't know it all and where there are so many variables (no two case are the same) it's very hard to conclusively prove via scientific study. Its much the same case with allergies. There are theories about what causes them, but conclusive research is not easy to come by. Youd have to screen the entire population at birth and then monitor them to really gather data on such disorders as ocd and that of course is unethical.
based on current research its a combo of genetic (physiological), gestation and environmental factors. The amygdala is the area currently being studied as the key link between many such disorders. There's no reason why if you have physical illnesses that are linked to genetics development and environmental triggers that you would not have a similar logical link to mental health. Its not that the theories are not out there, some have not been proven, but theories are always there to be disproven, so we only know so much of science at any point in time, we don't know it all and where there are so many variables (no two case are the same) it's very hard to conclusively prove via scientific study. Its much the same case with allergies. There are theories about what causes them, but conclusive research is not easy to come by. Youd have to screen the entire population at birth and then monitor them to really gather data on such disorders as ocd and that of course is unethical.
"but again, thanks for TOTALLY missing the point. thanks for doing exactly what prompted the thread in the first place. a bunch of dime store psychologists with internet access who've watched one too many episodes of Monk believing that disorders can be surmised by activities...the number of times you wash your hands and oh, according to the "clinical social worker," how you align your pencils."
I guess you don't realise how much that statement says about you.
I guess you don't realise how much that statement says about you.
"once you have the disorder, you have it for life. you either manage it with therapy, techniques or medicate. just as an addict/alcoholic who stops using will ALWAYS be their disease, someone who suffers from this condition is never "cured.""
Again I repeat it varies with the individual. There i no cut and dried with this type of disorder. Youre putting everyone in one box and that's simply not the case in reality. OCD like schizophrenia is put in a diagnosis box just like schizophrenia based on a number of ticked boxes. Doesn't mean any two cases are the same. Not at all. Why don't you prove they are all in the same category with something more than sweeping statements based on your own experience.
Again I repeat it varies with the individual. There i no cut and dried with this type of disorder. Youre putting everyone in one box and that's simply not the case in reality. OCD like schizophrenia is put in a diagnosis box just like schizophrenia based on a number of ticked boxes. Doesn't mean any two cases are the same. Not at all. Why don't you prove they are all in the same category with something more than sweeping statements based on your own experience.
Posted by tubbyscubbyPosted by cappy~go~luckytooPosted by seavixen2
I hear you about people saying "I'm so OCD about...blah blah" it has become a figure of speech like "I'm retarded" or "That's so gay"...
This may be gay but I reckon it's actually something positive, because it has demystified such disorders and made them more acceptable. At least it generates interest and understanding.
^^^actually, just shows how stupid, immature, biased and ignorant you are. you just called being gay a "disorder." you're such a tool.click to expand
do you get off on twisting other people's words as well as seeing things only through your own experience and assuming others know and understand nothing of the world?
although I do have my suspicions that brobert and tubbyscrubby are one and the same person. The other face of the gemini perhaps?
Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo
"once you have the disorder, you have it for life. you either manage it with therapy, techniques or medicate. just as an addict/alcoholic who stops using will ALWAYS be their disease, someone who suffers from this condition is never "cured.""
Again I repeat it varies with the individual. There i no cut and dried with this type of disorder. Youre putting everyone in one box and that's simply not the case in reality. OCD like schizophrenia is put in a diagnosis box just like schizophrenia based on a number of ticked boxes. Doesn't mean any two cases are the same. Not at all. Why don't you prove they are all in the same category with something more than sweeping statements based on your own experience.
do you even realize what you're saying? are your arguments supposed to make any sense?
of course it varies with the individual. are you seriously this dense? you really are aren't you? it's sad. the diagnosis is the box you twit...not the person or the way in which the disease manifests itself. as i said, a person doesn't have to be pissing on them self to be an alcoholic or have stolen your tv to be a crackhead. but you're a cap, you can't wrap your mind around it. i get that.
ok, let me put an end to this as i no longer want you uttering a statement in my direction. so i will concede your points so that you will stop posting in my thread now kay? ready...
everyone has OCD, everyone is schizophrenic but we need a "trigger," yeah, that's it, a trigger! see, as children, we all have imaginary friends. that's a sign...that's a sign we're all schitzo.
i get it now! thank GOD you posted. you can go now.
Posted by Kaleidescorp44
cappy~go~luckytoo, it's not worth it. She continually berates and belittles others if anyone disagrees or has another view-point from the one she offers. She seems to like to argue and will attempt to make it personal with little digs towards the poster, rather than merely arguing her points. One cannot engage in a lively, intellectual debate with someone like that. No matter what you say, she will attempt to point out she said it first and said it best, and that anyone that engages her is merely an idiot in her eyes. It's really not worth the effort to attempt to engage in a civil, grown up discussion with her.
exactly, which is why you know how to not hit the post message button in this thread right?
see ya!
Posted by Kaleidescorp44
, that is interesting to find another SW here. I received my MSW 3 years ago. Very rewarding career though pay sucks. I've worked in a Psychiatric hospital for several years and in a residential treatment facility for adolescents with my undergrad degree. Since getting my Masters, I worked for a short time with forensic interviewing of abused chidlren but it wasn't something I could continue doing for years on end, witnessing 2 year olds attempt to explain the trauma they'd been through with play therapy or art therapy. It's horrendous what happens to some children. My last job was working with hospice. So when do you graduate? What area do you want to go to work in? And a piece of advice one of my professors gave me, find an area and specialize in it. I've been thinking about going back to psychiatric social work, but there aren't a lot of opportunities for that in my area.
OOOOOO you have no idea how i drank in those words lol. i'm ALWAYS looking for ANYONE'S experiences in the field. particularly, the sentence about it being very rewarding but with pay way under what it should be. i won't keep going with the pay thing though as i feel very passionately about it and would probably end up on some long-winded tirade. 😛 however, i know it is rewarding!! i've helped with some casework (haven't done it directly though), been on home visits with supervisors, dealt with children who have been in rough situations.....and i'm sure i may be waxing cheesy here, but i truly believe nothing is more rewarding than helping another in need, at least in my experience. that's why, even though i constantly get grimaces when i tell people my goals, or even, "why not just be a psychologist? you'll make so much more money!" i never doubt my choice for a single second.
some people are cut out for it and some aren't, ya know? i can't say with complete confidence that i am yet, but i haven't seen any evidence to the contrary thus far. anyway, to answer your question, i graduate in august. had a bit of a delay due to transferring schools, losing credits, that whole deal. i want to work with children. my "ideal" job would be to do casework for a nonprofit organization because i loved when i was involved in it. (yes, i know the pay is abysmal - but honestly, i would enjoy making children's lives better, so it evens out in my eyes).
Posted by centrifugal force
^^^not OCD...organized. nothing about this screams disorder and therein lies the problem. sure, this could be an OCD person's closet. or it could be a design student's closet project.
Posted by Kaleidescorp44
cappy~go~luckytoo, it's not worth it. She continually berates and belittles others if anyone disagrees or has another view-point from the one she offers. She seems to like to argue and will attempt to make it personal with little digs towards the poster, rather than merely arguing her points. One cannot engage in a lively, intellectual debate with someone like that. No matter what you say, she will attempt to point out she said it first and said it best, and that anyone that engages her is merely an idiot in her eyes. It's really not worth the effort to attempt to engage in a civil, grown up discussion with her.
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Posted by Kaleidescorp44
As a psychologist, you are stuck as a psychologist, but with social work, you can do everything a psychologist would do, but you also have a wider range of areas to select from. Case management being one, clinical counseling, community development, etc. I kind of liked the ability to make a larger selection, so I went with SW.
this is another reason i don't doubt my decision. i've noticed that when people hear social worker, they automatically think welfare/ssi/taking kids away from their parents. but it is so much more than that.
i appreciate the encouragement, especially from someone who's experienced it firsthand. and i understand why that particular job would be too much. it probably would for me too.
Posted by centrifugal force
NO. Not the closet. The act of arranging the closet.
The 12 hours a day, every day. Organizing and reorganizing.
So, yes. It is OCD, if I say it is OCD.
But I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.
You should be able to draw logical conclusions without my assistance.
is that your closet?
ok, you know that moment in "Close Encounters" where Richard Dreyfuss' character is faced with whether or not to enter the big space ship? yeah, that's is what just came to mind.
my point about OCD is this...for those of us who it impacts, it IS a big deal. up until 5 years ago, i didn't know there was a problem. i've been this way since elementary school though.
the vid i posted earlier in the thread was a "wow" moment for me. she doesn't have the same affliction i have, but i related to what she meant by not being able to control it. it's so involuntary...it cerebral, thus, i didn't recognize it and no one else did either. i could get more into it but that's not the point of the thread.
what i wanted to say was, these "disorders" have become popularized to the point where people with the actual affliction don't realize they have it. if everyone has it, no one has it.
my point about OCD is this...for those of us who it impacts, it IS a big deal. up until 5 years ago, i didn't know there was a problem. i've been this way since elementary school though.
the vid i posted earlier in the thread was a "wow" moment for me. she doesn't have the same affliction i have, but i related to what she meant by not being able to control it. it's so involuntary...it cerebral, thus, i didn't recognize it and no one else did either. i could get more into it but that's not the point of the thread.
what i wanted to say was, these "disorders" have become popularized to the point where people with the actual affliction don't realize they have it. if everyone has it, no one has it.
Posted by Kaleidescorp44
cappy~go~luckytoo, it's not worth it. She continually berates and belittles others if anyone disagrees or has another view-point from the one she offers. She seems to like to argue and will attempt to make it personal with little digs towards the poster, rather than merely arguing her points. One cannot engage in a lively, intellectual debate with someone like that. No matter what you say, she will attempt to point out she said it first and said it best, and that anyone that engages her is merely an idiot in her eyes. It's really not worth the effort to attempt to engage in a civil, grown up discussion with her.
Kaleidoscorp yep 🙂 I see the artist formerly known as brobert/domino/tubby has far bigger problems than just ocd so as you rightly say, there is no point.
B/D/T - I hope you get the right treatment (whoever you are this evening!).
the perfect example of how media/physicians fuel panic and misdiagnosis is with breast cancer.
in the 80s, it was a HUGE deal. the perception was that breast cancer was an epidemic. it was as if it was a new thing and women were dropping like flies because of it.
every lifetime movie was about some woman faced with life-death decisions and/or disfigurement. where breast cancer is real, the media induced panic resulted in millions/billions of dollars in unnecessary mammograms and doctor visits.
to this day, this panic has resulted in increased medical costs for americans across the board. recently, a study showed that women should NOT get mammograms before a certain age and that in europe, where it is a standard to do it around the age of 50, in the states, that's not the case. there was backlash against this study because one life is worth millions/billions in the eyes of the american public. we have a deficient health care system not due to the availability of care, but in the tendency of americans to believe that they are afflicted with any and everything and therefore deserve the RIGHT to rule out any and every disease known to man. in effect, if there was a media obsession with leprosy in 2010, in 2011 and beyond, droves of americans would believe they were a leper.
so thanks to the freak for proving my point about the stupidity of others before i could finish typing.
in the 80s, it was a HUGE deal. the perception was that breast cancer was an epidemic. it was as if it was a new thing and women were dropping like flies because of it.
every lifetime movie was about some woman faced with life-death decisions and/or disfigurement. where breast cancer is real, the media induced panic resulted in millions/billions of dollars in unnecessary mammograms and doctor visits.
to this day, this panic has resulted in increased medical costs for americans across the board. recently, a study showed that women should NOT get mammograms before a certain age and that in europe, where it is a standard to do it around the age of 50, in the states, that's not the case. there was backlash against this study because one life is worth millions/billions in the eyes of the american public. we have a deficient health care system not due to the availability of care, but in the tendency of americans to believe that they are afflicted with any and everything and therefore deserve the RIGHT to rule out any and every disease known to man. in effect, if there was a media obsession with leprosy in 2010, in 2011 and beyond, droves of americans would believe they were a leper.
so thanks to the freak for proving my point about the stupidity of others before i could finish typing.
Posted by tubbyscubbyPosted by centrifugal force
^^^not OCD...organized. nothing about this screams disorder and therein lies the problem. sure, this could be an OCD person's closet. or it could be a design student's closet project.click to expand
this is not an ocd person's closet. It looks too disordered. Those hangers are not exact spaces apart for a start and the colours are not in perfect succession. The handbags are crooked too. It's a total mess.
the one at the bottom of this pic is closest to the ocd closet version (although the pillow on the righthand side of the sofa needs a bit of rearrangement) :
yes dipshit, we're one in the same. it would seem as if you have a paranoia disorder.
ian already posted the thread about how brobert and myself are one in the same. you're behind the times. but you know what, i'm glad that you could debase yourself and display your stupidity in full public view.
if it makes you feel better, brobert/domino/p-angel and myself are one in the same. given this site has existed for like a decade, we are all one in the same. who were your e-nemies prior to the past few years. you're not original. you're ignorant. your arguments are baseless and your lack of depth and intelligence knows no bounds.
and yet, you keep posting in a thread that I created at what aim? i invite you to create your own thread in which you can spout your stupidity. but no, you come in mine and choose to NOT READ and display your stoopidity at every turn. again, thanks dip.
ian already posted the thread about how brobert and myself are one in the same. you're behind the times. but you know what, i'm glad that you could debase yourself and display your stupidity in full public view.
if it makes you feel better, brobert/domino/p-angel and myself are one in the same. given this site has existed for like a decade, we are all one in the same. who were your e-nemies prior to the past few years. you're not original. you're ignorant. your arguments are baseless and your lack of depth and intelligence knows no bounds.
and yet, you keep posting in a thread that I created at what aim? i invite you to create your own thread in which you can spout your stupidity. but no, you come in mine and choose to NOT READ and display your stoopidity at every turn. again, thanks dip.
Posted by tubbyscubby
the perfect example of how media/physicians fuel panic and misdiagnosis is with breast cancer.
in the 80s, it was a HUGE deal. the perception was that breast cancer was an epidemic. it was as if it was a new thing and women were dropping like flies because of it.
every lifetime movie was about some woman faced with life-death decisions and/or disfigurement. where breast cancer is real, the media induced panic resulted in millions/billions of dollars in unnecessary mammograms and doctor visits.
there is a high likelihood people with a certain genetic makeup will get breastcancer, but if caught early it's no longer a death sentence. So those with breast cancer in their family should be screened regularly. But self exam rather than mammogram is a major diagnostic tool in the UK. I've known about four or five women who have been saved by breast self examination. A good friend of mine had a lump removed only about three years ago and is still ok now although she will be on tamoxifen for years & of course once youve had it, it can come back as it did with a neighbour of mine who died in 2002. My sister in law's cousin was misdiagnosed even though she did have a lump and the cancer spread to her lymph nodes, but she has been successfully treated. I know of so many who have been through this and now live because of the increased vigilance. I also know of a woman who ignored her lump and very sadly died. None of the people I know detected it through mammograms, it was all self examination. The mammogram is usually the next stage in the UK if you find a lump. It's not something for flippant comparisons if you don't understand the reality.
Posted by tubbyscubby
yes dipshit, we're one in the same. it would seem as if you have a paranoia disorder.
ian already posted the thread about how brobert and myself are one in the same. you're behind the times. but you know what, i'm glad that you could debase yourself and display your stupidity in full public view.
if it makes you feel better, brobert/domino/p-angel and myself are one in the same. given this site has existed for like a decade, we are all one in the same. who were your e-nemies prior to the past few years. you're not original. you're ignorant. your arguments are baseless and your lack of depth and intelligence knows no bounds.
and yet, you keep posting in a thread that I created at what aim? i invite you to create your own thread in which you can spout your stupidity. but no, you come in mine and choose to NOT READ and display your stoopidity at every turn. again, thanks dip.
Im not interested in your mind games. Im only interested in your welfare.
Posted by cappy~go~luckytooPosted by tubbyscubbyPosted by centrifugal force
^^^not OCD...organized. nothing about this screams disorder and therein lies the problem. sure, this could be an OCD person's closet. or it could be a design student's closet project.
this is not an ocd person's closet. It looks too disordered. Those hangers are not exact spaces apart for a start and the colours are not in perfect succession. The handbags are crooked too. It's a total mess.
the one at the bottom of this pic is closest to the ocd closet version (although the pillow on the righthand side of the sofa needs a bit of rearrangement) :
click to expand
you hypocrite! what happened to variations?
it's not MY OCD closet because i have closet for my shoes, i have a closet for my boots, i have closet for my dresses, i have a closet for my dress shirt and pants, i have a closet for my coats. i have designated spot for my jeans, i have a designated location for "get 'em girl tops." and on and on...
i live in a 4 bedroom house. i don't have any kids. why so much space?...cause the above images would result in the opposite of organized behavior. without the space, i would be dysfunctional. without the space, my house would resemble that of a hoarder. but you can't get that idiot.
those are PICTURES! you pulled them from a craft site. God, i LOATHE stupidity.
i hate cats. they're vermin. you be concerned for my welfare while it wouldn't phase me if you were exterminated.
you post a non-literal image in a thread in which the OP spoke of the need to be literal and you're surprised?
wow...did any of you notice that the thread is about what IS OCD and what it isn't? did you even gather that it's about not throwing the OCD label on things that are orderly or hygienic simply because it's easy/popular to do so?
again, thank you all for tooooooooooootally proving my point....minus seavixen.
ok nuff net play. ciao!
wow...did any of you notice that the thread is about what IS OCD and what it isn't? did you even gather that it's about not throwing the OCD label on things that are orderly or hygienic simply because it's easy/popular to do so?
again, thank you all for tooooooooooootally proving my point....minus seavixen.
ok nuff net play. ciao!
Posted by tubbyscubby
you post a non-literal image in a thread in which the OP spoke of the need to be literal and you're surprised?
wow...did any of you notice that the thread is about what IS OCD and what it isn't? did you even gather that it's about not throwing the OCD label on things that are orderly or hygienic simply because it's easy/popular to do so?
again, thank you all for tooooooooooootally proving my point....minus seavixen.
ok nuff net play. ciao!
I don't think you have ocd. Or I don't think it's just ocd - am I right? Is that why you were on the anti psychotics? I don't expect you to be interested in my welfare, you clearly have enough trouble trying to figure out your own. But you shouldn't stop anti psychotics just like that without checking with whoever prescribed them.
Posted by seavixen2
Penicillins, Sulfonamides and many more are basically useless and they are useless in fighting the yuckiest critter MRSA (Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus) which is a SUPER STAPH that can be picked up anywhere by anyone. It spreads faster than lightning, hurts like hell and can cause you to become septic and need an amputation...I'm a living testament to it, I got it in a cat scratch on my finger and almost needed to have my index finger off.
Wow what a thing to have gone through sea. Must have been really frightening for you at the time. MRSA is a really strange bug because from what I understand, it can be harmless but then suddenly your body can react to it. I thought usually it was when someone was immune compromised such as after an operation, but then you hear of random cases where people get a full blown infection for no reason. I reckon it's all the chemicals in the atmosphere and in products and food screwing our internal chemical balance up. That combined with the effect of electro magnetic fields. Our life style s these days are totally weird compared to the life style for which we are designed.
Sounds like you had a very lucky escape sea. I guess before antibiotics it only took one of the non mrsa infections we now take for granted to kill someone, so maybe we are just coming full circle & in need of another solution?
Posted by brobert
i wouldn't be surprise that ian was tubby. xDclick to expand
Whoeve you are, you both appear to have varying degrees of a compromised interpretation of reality (depending on the day of the week and whether there is a full moon...).
you just announce publicly that you've been googling my id. as if it's a secret....ooooooh scary!
you've been reading my posts on another forum (of which i have absolutely NO problem with anyone dipshit) because you have NO life.
you created a fake account to imitate me.
you troll on my threads.
and brobert's the stalker?
you are one twisted, sick heffer. it's almost hilarious how pitifully sad and disturbed you are. do you want me to send you a pair of my dirty socks for you to sniff and mount on your wall?
you've been reading my posts on another forum (of which i have absolutely NO problem with anyone dipshit) because you have NO life.
you created a fake account to imitate me.
you troll on my threads.
and brobert's the stalker?
you are one twisted, sick heffer. it's almost hilarious how pitifully sad and disturbed you are. do you want me to send you a pair of my dirty socks for you to sniff and mount on your wall?
what? your break with reality?
WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE? oh yeah, you like to troll.
a progressively aging cow taking time out of her day to follow me around to what aim?
you gonna follow me to the islands as well? freak.
WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE? oh yeah, you like to troll.
a progressively aging cow taking time out of her day to follow me around to what aim?
you gonna follow me to the islands as well? freak.
no, you created the account because you are a moron. good that you don't see the difference.
i'm glad that i could take up so much of your day. ever considering getting a fucking life? no?
ok, continue to troll and let me know if you want want tube or footies.
you are, without a doubt, one of the sorriest human beings i have ever encountered since the invention of AOL.
i'm glad that i could take up so much of your day. ever considering getting a fucking life? no?
ok, continue to troll and let me know if you want want tube or footies.
you are, without a doubt, one of the sorriest human beings i have ever encountered since the invention of AOL.
"you are, without a doubt, one of the sorriest human beings i have ever encountered since the invention of AOL."
is this a standard retort to ao-hell chat room members that's been copied and pasted here? or are you two buddies from another cyberworld?
is this a standard retort to ao-hell chat room members that's been copied and pasted here? or are you two buddies from another cyberworld?
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