When is taking your dog out too much?

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Not sure about anyone else, but here, people seem to take their dogs everywhere. When and where do you think it's just too much and actually very rude and inconsiderate?

I got into a discussion with a friend about it today after I'd mentioned that I saw a lady bring her dog in to the bank while she waited in line. Better than leaving her in the hot car, but why the hell do you need to bring your dog with you on errands...? My friend saw nothing wrong with taking your dog all over the place, but the places I've seen people bring their dogs... it's like, really? You couldn't leave your dog at home? WHY do you need to bring your pet with you everywhere you go?

Dog parks, restaurant patios, "pet friendly" places are kind of understandable. But INSIDE restaurants without the service dog vests? Into the bank? In a cramped duffel bag inside an enclosed mall? These are all instances I've seen in the last few weeks. Further back, I was working out on the patio and kept passing a stroller of an older couple. In the back of my mind, I figured they had one of the grand kids with them or something. I finally really looked and it was an effing DOG stroller. One of my coworkers had a lady who'd brought her dog and demanded that they come sing happy birthday to it.

What do you think is too much and why the hell do you think people feel compelled to do this? :/
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Posted by clooneyyears
maybe they bark to much and disturb the neighbors when left alone? or they chew the furniture.




Then they have no business owning a dog if they can't get them to behave properly. I grew up in a household with dogs- my parents raised, trained, and showed them. We rarely had those problems because the dogs were trained and cared for properly.

The fun thing about dogs is that you can take them out and about for fun stuff. It's one of the main perks- much more interactive in the outside world.

There was a study done recently that stated "dog people" are more insecure and have emotional issues related to those insecurities, whereas "cat people" do not. The difference is owning a dependent pet vs an independent pet. Insecure people want something to rely on them so it makes them feel important.

Ever since I read about that study, I've noticed more and more things like what I mentioned above. It's like, really? HERE? Wtf for?? :/

I felt so bad for that dog in the duffel/soft carrier. He was WAY too big for that bag and it wasn't meant to cart him around like a purse. He was peering out the mesh hole in the side. "HELP ME!" Poor fricken dog. Why would someone do that? haha.
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I'm a dog person, and I find other dog people refreshing. I take my dog along with me often, because he likes to go, and I try to expose him to many different situations and stimuli, so he will be properly socialized.

And, I like to see, and interact, with others' dogs.

I do think it becomes ridiculous when they are toted around in duffel bags, and strollers. Or, brought into banks, shopping malls, or inside restaurants. Little dogs get away with murder. Like they don't count as dogs, or something?

Nothing bothers me more than Fido riding in mommy's, or daddy's lap, virtually driving the car for them though. It's dangerous.

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I see them at flea markets. NOt in bags, but on a leash. People everywhere. What if that dog decides to bite someone? People think their dogs won't, but they might.



What kind of dogs are we talking about? No dog just bites someone unless he's been trained to be mean!
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That's not necessarily true. If a dog is nervous, irritated or messed with or some child pulls on their fur, they can bite. Just because a dog has been trained to be gentle, they can bite in the right circumstance.

I've seen all sizes and all breeds out there - Labs, German Shepards, Boxers, Terriers, etc.
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Posted by LillyBlossom
The moment a person brings their dog to an environment served soley for human entertainment purposes, like the movies or a restaurant (not a park), they are officially sick in the head. I LOVE animals but I despise seeing them being ridiculed and made to conform to humans' idea of "fun."




That is weird! I would never!

There's a restaurant that opened up here, for you and your dog. That's just too over the top for me.

Dogs are animals, I get that.
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I see them at flea markets. NOt in bags, but on a leash. People everywhere. What if that dog decides to bite someone? People think their dogs won't, but they might.



What kind of dogs are we talking about? No dog just bites someone unless he's been trained to be mean!



Wrong.

If a perfectly sweet, well mannered dog is exposed to something they aren't familiar with, they CAN and will bite if hassled to do so. Example- a dog who's not familiar with kids and lives in a household with all adults. Unfortunately, a lot of parents don't parent their crotch droppings and said brats will do things like poke dog in the eye, mouth, hit them etc when mom and dad aren't paying attention. If the dog isn't used to being around that bullshit, they're liable to nip or snap out of self defense.

Or if for some reason sweetheart feels that there's a threat or that their owner is threatened, they can snap as well.

Shit happens. They don't have to be "trained to be mean" in order to bite someone.

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I'd rather deal with people's dogs than their red-headed ADHD child-spawn.
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+1

The dogs are more well behaved than the kids more often than not.
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Posted by LillyBlossom
The moment a person brings their dog to an environment served soley for human entertainment purposes, like the movies or a restaurant (not a park), they are officially sick in the head. I LOVE animals but I despise seeing them being ridiculed and made to conform to humans' idea of "fun."




That is weird! I would never!

There's a restaurant that opened up here, for you and your dog. That's just too over the top for me.

Dogs are animals, I get that.
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This is what I'm referring to.

Lilly pretty much summed up what I was wondering. Wtf is wrong with someone that they feel that they're entitled to bring their fur baby with them to inappropriate/not dog intended places? They say cat people are crazy, but with the shit I see some dog people doing, I'm wondering if it's really flipped.

It's amazing how many times I've seen people LIE about their dogs being "service animals." In California, you have to take someone's word for it and can't question whether they're being honest or not (though to be fair, most service dogs are a dead giveaway with vests and the like).

The action itself is very childish and immature. "I'm going to lie so I can bring my dog with me just because I want to!" Like it's some Barbie doll or favorite toy to bring along. Dahell? Way to ruin it for those who legitimately need service animals. I had a lady hide her dog next to her in the booth, trying to be sneaky. When asked about it, she proclaimed the dog was a service dog. ...if that's the case, why the hell are you hiding your dog? I've seen service dogs being trained/used before. That's not how they roll.
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Posted by CapTenn
I'm a dog person, and I find other dog people refreshing. I take my dog along with me often, because he likes to go, and I try to expose him to many different situations and stimuli, so he will be properly socialized.

And, I like to see, and interact, with others' dogs.

I do think it becomes ridiculous when they are toted around in duffel bags, and strollers. Or, brought into banks, shopping malls, or inside restaurants. Little dogs get away with murder. Like they don't count as dogs, or something?

Nothing bothers me more than Fido riding in mommy's, or daddy's lap, virtually driving the car for them though. It's dangerous.



Exactly. I don't have an issue that people take their dogs out. What I don't understand is the EXTENT that people have been going to and where they bring them. It's like do you REALLY think that here is an appropriate place to bring your fur baby?

There's a time and a place. I'm just not understanding when people assumed it was acceptable to do something like this.

I had a lady come in with her Basset after a vet visit. She didn't want to leave him in the car because he was upset as he'd just had his nails trimmed.

Except the vet failed and trimmed too close and the dog was BLEEDING all over the carpet in the shop that I worked in at the time. Yet she thought it was okay to bring him in because OMG HE'S SO UPSET RIGHT NOW.

Yes, I enjoyed cleaning up your dogs blood out of the carpet.
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Posted by truecap
I see them at flea markets. NOt in bags, but on a leash. People everywhere. What if that dog decides to bite someone? People think their dogs won't, but they might.



What kind of dogs are we talking about? No dog just bites someone unless he's been trained to be mean!



Wrong.

If a perfectly sweet, well mannered dog is exposed to something they aren't familiar with, they CAN and will bite if hassled to do so. Example- a dog who's not familiar with kids and lives in a household with all adults. Unfortunately, a lot of parents don't parent their crotch droppings and said brats will do things like poke dog in the eye, mouth, hit them etc when mom and dad aren't paying attention. If the dog isn't used to being around that bullshit, they're liable to nip or snap out of self defense.

Or if for some reason sweetheart feels that there's a threat or that their owner is threatened, they can snap as well.

Shit happens. They don't have to be "trained to be mean" in order to bite someone.

Posted by Rabbit
I'd rather deal with people's dogs than their red-headed ADHD child-spawn.



+1

The dogs are more well behaved than the kids more often than not.
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You're wrong.
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I do think it becomes ridiculous when they are toted around in duffel bags, and strollers.



Mostly because at some point, the purse-bound dog would inevitably have to pee whilst in a place where going on the ground/behind a bush isn't an immediate option. Not only would it destroy the bag/purse, the dog itself gets soiled too.

And who wants their portable fabric bags forever reeking of dog odor? Pets often have rank breath, never mind the possibility of fleas & ticks.

Maybe these are the types of people that allow their animals walk all over kitchen surfaces at home, the same areas they prepare food & eat off of? Beyond nasty.



I was wondering this as well. Sure, dog's in some sort of enclosed thing so when they relieve themselves, it's not on the floor or merchandise. But then the bag (assuming it's intended for dog carrying) now smells and you get to walk around with that.

I don't have a dog currently, but I couldn't imagine bringing it with me in situations like that. Dog parks, maybe restaurant patios if I felt like it, sure. But while I'm shopping? Just one more thing to worry about- omg is he/she going to take a dump here? Is it getting into something it shouldn't? That kid is shoving his finger into my dog's eye.

Gah. STAY AT HOME. WE'LL GO TO THE PARK/GO FOR A WALK LATER WHEN MOMMY IS DONE WITH ERRANDS.

Posted by clooneyyears
i was denied entry to a pet shop coz i was wearing flip flops the other day lol

i'm not sure if it was a hygiene issue or if they thought i couldn't afford their dogs
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More like a liability. Exposed feet + claws = no bueno.

I mean that's the only logical explanation I can think of aside from them just being asshats haha.
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I do think it becomes ridiculous when they are toted around in duffel bags, and strollers.



Mostly because at some point, the purse-bound dog would inevitably have to pee whilst in a place where going on the ground/behind a bush isn't an immediate option. Not only would it destroy the bag/purse, the dog itself gets soiled too.

And who wants their portable fabric bags forever reeking of dog odor? Pets often have rank breath, never mind the possibility of fleas & ticks.

Maybe these are the types of people that allow their animals walk all over kitchen surfaces at home, the same areas they prepare food & eat off of? Beyond nasty.
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I wasn't even thinking of the hygiene issue. I assumed that those bags were designated for dog use only. — If not, yeah, gross.

My thing is -- they have 4 legs. They can walk. But, that's how they skirt the rules and take their dogs into non pet friendly environments. A medium to large dog would never be allowed in these place -- as they shouldn't be.

Just because your 5 lb ankle biter can fit into a purse, you shouldn't be exempt from the rules.

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I see them at flea markets. NOt in bags, but on a leash. People everywhere. What if that dog decides to bite someone? People think their dogs won't, but they might.



What kind of dogs are we talking about? No dog just bites someone unless he's been trained to be mean!



Wrong.

If a perfectly sweet, well mannered dog is exposed to something they aren't familiar with, they CAN and will bite if hassled to do so. Example- a dog who's not familiar with kids and lives in a household with all adults. Unfortunately, a lot of parents don't parent their crotch droppings and said brats will do things like poke dog in the eye, mouth, hit them etc when mom and dad aren't paying attention. If the dog isn't used to being around that bullshit, they're liable to nip or snap out of self defense.

Or if for some reason sweetheart feels that there's a threat or that their owner is threatened, they can snap as well.

Shit happens. They don't have to be "trained to be mean" in order to bite someone.

Posted by Rabbit
I'd rather deal with people's dogs than their red-headed ADHD child-spawn.



+1

The dogs are more well behaved than the kids more often than not.




You're wrong.
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No, I'm not. But keep up that delusion!
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Posted by LillyBlossom
The moment a person brings their dog to an environment served soley for human entertainment purposes, like the movies or a restaurant (not a park), they are officially sick in the head. I LOVE animals but I despise seeing them being ridiculed and made to conform to humans' idea of "fun."




That is weird! I would never!

There's a restaurant that opened up here, for you and your dog. That's just too over the top for me.

Dogs are animals, I get that.
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I think that's kind of cool! There is definitely a market for it.
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Posted by Rabbit
You cannot train a dog to NOT defend itself if it feels threatened.

They are not humans. They cannot reason like a human. They do not have the higher thinking ability that humans do.

I love my dogs. They really are a member of the family. But at the same time I'm not foolish enough to pretend they aren't still animals and attribute anthropomorphic qualities to them that don't actually exist.



+1 I'm the same way- any pet I get is a member of the family and I am an absolute animal person. But I also know that they're animals, and animals are capable of things you didn't think they had in them if the wrong situation presents itself.

Only the delusional pet owners who act as if their pets are their perfect widdle children aren't capable of doing such things would believe such nonsense. Reality check- they ARE animals. They'll behave as such if the situation is whack enough.

And miss delusional head up her ass up there is just making me lol with her ignorance. I'm wrong? Okay, well you go and have a talk with your vet and see what they say, okay honey? I mean really, ONLY dogs who have been trained to be "mean" will bite people? You shouldn't own dogs if that's your logic.
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