What makes them stressed out? What's the worst stressor? How do they deal with hatred? What makes them happy?
How does a Pisces moon act?
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Posted by abcdEUThe "Virgo" was probably a Pisces moon.Posted by SensitiveBluesWhuuuut?!
They're drug addicts and easily stressed
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Posted by tehstruggleThat describes two Pisces mooners I knew very well accurately. Both of them struggled with the negative side of it a lot, as described by that site. It probably didn't help that their suns were opposite and square their moon (Virgo and Sag suns).
http://www.southfloridaastrologer.com/the-difference-between-pisces-sun--moon.html
I'm a very reasonable and balanced person. I get stressed out and irritated easily but I don't flip my shit. Deadlines are my worst stressor. Knowing I have to make a decision or finish work by a certain time stresses me out bad. If people hate me, whatever. What makes me happy is traveling, compliments, cats, etc.
I don't consider myself very sensitive, either. I think most who know me irl would attest to that.
I don't consider myself very sensitive, either. I think most who know me irl would attest to that.
Posted by tehstruggleSo true! Great observations.Posted by CopperDoveThey are also heavily influenced by their environment. They need lots of solitary time and good people around them, or they will absorb the negative habits/thoughts/emotions of others.Posted by tehstruggleThat describes two Pisces mooners I knew very well accurately. Both of them struggled with the negative side of it a lot, as described by that site. It probably didn't help that their suns were opposite and square their moon (Virgo and Sag suns).
http://www.southfloridaastrologer.com/the-difference-between-pisces-sun--moon.html
I know 2 Scorp women with Pisces moon, 1 is an ex, the other is a friend. The ex acted like a jekyll/hyde and the friend is a complete angel. The ex hung out with bad people and the friend was more sheltered. Inner acceptance + outer environment will influence the result.click to expand
The Virgo and Sag I knew with Pisces moon did much better when they were more careful about their environment.
Unfortunately the Sag eventually isolated himself too much and was more interested in living in a dream world than dealing with reality. He could be very Jekyll/Hyde like you described about your ex. Maybe he's doing better now. Hopefully so.
The Virgo was healthier emotionally for a while, then took on too much in her work life and was strongly affected by that, taking on some really unpleasant energy that affected her friendships.
Posted by abcdEUIt's a stereotype, like any other... I doubt the "Virgo" did, either.Posted by MontgomeryMaybe so.Posted by abcdEUThe "Virgo" was probably a Pisces moon.Posted by SensitiveBluesWhuuuut?!
They're drug addicts and easily stressed
No concept of responsibility
I have a Pisces moon and have never had a drug addiction.click to expand
And really-- how can we read your mind if we're zonked out of our own?
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
Posted by WestsidekodakPosted by WestsidekodakPosted by ScenicI totally agree cats make happy.
What makes me happy is cats.
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My dad has it. Incredibly interesting person.
They have no clue, really ... that to help others without being asked is intrusive. Since the lunar Pisces doesn't realize this, they will run to assist another, and then the other gets put-off by the Pisces, or doesn't even acknowledge all the Fish did for them to help them ... this sends the lunar Fish into believing that they are being taken for granted.
It's horrible because the lunar Fish was never being taken advantage of ..... rather this Fish really was intruding and imposing upon the other. And this Fish has zero clue to it, even when pointed out to them. They still have this false belief that they were helping.
Posted by tehstruggleYes, very much so. The Virgo with Pisces moon used to be a chameleon (her words) with people when she was a kid sometimes, taking on some of their traits when she spent a lot of time with them.Posted by CopperDoveYour friends really fit that sponge effect of Pisces moon. Funny to note that even the author of the jekyll and hyde book had a Pisces moon. That book could likely be his memoir.Posted by tehstruggleSo true! Great observations.Posted by CopperDoveThey are also heavily influenced by their environment. They need lots of solitary time and good people around them, or they will absorb the negative habits/thoughts/emotions of others.Posted by tehstruggleThat describes two Pisces mooners I knew very well accurately. Both of them struggled with the negative side of it a lot, as described by that site. It probably didn't help that their suns were opposite and square their moon (Virgo and Sag suns).
http://www.southfloridaastrologer.com/the-difference-between-pisces-sun--moon.html
I know 2 Scorp women with Pisces moon, 1 is an ex, the other is a friend. The ex acted like a jekyll/hyde and the friend is a complete angel. The ex hung out with bad people and the friend was more sheltered. Inner acceptance + outer environment will influence the result.
The Virgo and Sag I knew with Pisces moon did much better when they were more careful about their environment.
Unfortunately the Sag eventually isolated himself too much and was more interested in living in a dream world than dealing with reality. He could be very Jekyll/Hyde like you described about your ex. Maybe he's doing better now. Hopefully so.
The Virgo was healthier emotionally for a while, then took on too much in her work life and was strongly affected by that, taking on some really unpleasant energy that affected her friendships.
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Interesting about the author of Jeckyll and Hyde book!
Time alone is the answer
Posted by P-AngelAgree.
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
Thank God (I mean, thanks to myself) I am learning to put number 1 first. It has been hard work though.
Posted by P-AngelTruly donkeys
They have no clue, really ... that to help others without being asked is intrusive. Since the lunar Pisces doesn't realize this, they will run to assist another, and then the other gets put-off by the Pisces, or doesn't even acknowledge all the Fish did for them to help them ... this sends the lunar Fish into believing that they are being taken for granted.
It's horrible because the lunar Fish was never being taken advantage of ..... rather this Fish really was intruding and imposing upon the other. And this Fish has zero clue to it, even when pointed out to them. They still have this false belief that they were helping.
I literally run away from any person with this placement.
Posted by Arielle83Posted by SensitiveBluesYa I see that.
He thinks being noon judgmental helps him.
It's an idiotic weak moon
They don't like strong opinions.click to expand
indeed
agreed:
family dysfunction, relationship issues, and feeling overwhelmed makes me stressed out.
hatred makes me avoid them.
feeling appreciated and understood makes me happy.
A gentle rain, the sound of waves at the ocean, crisp fall air, feeling secure and protected, a smile, having a bond, being alone, having warm feet, discovering something new, music etc... all make me happy.
heavily influenced by environment.
need lots of solitary time or good people around
If unstressed, can float happily along living from moment to moment.
like a jekyll/hyde
"warm feet" in the winter
traveling or cats make me happy.
I do like to escape.
I Love feeling the water and sand between my toes at the beach.
I love to laugh and be happy.
Negative energy really affects me causing me to shut down.
the Sag, me, eventually isolated herself too much.
take on too much in my work life
Incredibly interesting person 😉
sponge effect : receptive, soft and even marshmallow-like
Time alone is the answer.
too wise to poison myself with xyz
Sharing positivity and making others smile makes me happy.
I don't like strong opinions.
compassionate, easy-going
internal stress
seeks comfort and security. [DoM: as a Cat anyway]
seeks regularly retreat and pleasure.
fragile. sensitive. easily hurt.
sleeping, trying to sort through their feelings.
when stressed... don't know what to do, so I do nothing.
if overly angry, I completely block out the compassion I usually exhibit.
after I was stressed in a communication I float and wait like rowboats without oars.
if constantly under people's criticism it can be hard to climb out of when the world requires it.
I create my own reality where I'm stronger and can satisfy my needs and recoup security.
http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idThread=183207&idForum=1&lp=ende&lang=de
not gareed:
drug addicts
finances, job, and feeling lonely does not make me stressed out.
Deadlines as stressor
drugs in my younger years
struggle every day of my life with realizing that people don't always need me to help them.
feeling disillusioned and unappreciated
believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating my kindness.
destructive power
seeks solace and comfort in receiving feelings and absorbing surroundings. [Dom: wth? unless the beach was meant by "surroundings"]
alcohol to ease the pain
agreed for maybe sometimes or once in the past:
No concept of responsibility
Video games help me to get lost in another world.
Being late on bill's stresses me out.
Things going the way I had not planned if those plans are vital to my future.
constantly fights to keep its head out of the deep waters of powerful emotion.
submissive [DoM: See also Jackl/hyde comment]
family dysfunction, relationship issues, and feeling overwhelmed makes me stressed out.
hatred makes me avoid them.
feeling appreciated and understood makes me happy.
A gentle rain, the sound of waves at the ocean, crisp fall air, feeling secure and protected, a smile, having a bond, being alone, having warm feet, discovering something new, music etc... all make me happy.
heavily influenced by environment.
need lots of solitary time or good people around
If unstressed, can float happily along living from moment to moment.
like a jekyll/hyde
"warm feet" in the winter
traveling or cats make me happy.
I do like to escape.
I Love feeling the water and sand between my toes at the beach.
I love to laugh and be happy.
Negative energy really affects me causing me to shut down.
the Sag, me, eventually isolated herself too much.
take on too much in my work life
Incredibly interesting person 😉
sponge effect : receptive, soft and even marshmallow-like
Time alone is the answer.
too wise to poison myself with xyz
Sharing positivity and making others smile makes me happy.
I don't like strong opinions.
compassionate, easy-going
internal stress
seeks comfort and security. [DoM: as a Cat anyway]
seeks regularly retreat and pleasure.
fragile. sensitive. easily hurt.
sleeping, trying to sort through their feelings.
when stressed... don't know what to do, so I do nothing.
if overly angry, I completely block out the compassion I usually exhibit.
after I was stressed in a communication I float and wait like rowboats without oars.
if constantly under people's criticism it can be hard to climb out of when the world requires it.
I create my own reality where I'm stronger and can satisfy my needs and recoup security.
http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idThread=183207&idForum=1&lp=ende&lang=de
not gareed:
drug addicts
finances, job, and feeling lonely does not make me stressed out.
Deadlines as stressor
drugs in my younger years
struggle every day of my life with realizing that people don't always need me to help them.
feeling disillusioned and unappreciated
believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating my kindness.
destructive power
seeks solace and comfort in receiving feelings and absorbing surroundings. [Dom: wth? unless the beach was meant by "surroundings"]
alcohol to ease the pain
agreed for maybe sometimes or once in the past:
No concept of responsibility
Video games help me to get lost in another world.
Being late on bill's stresses me out.
Things going the way I had not planned if those plans are vital to my future.
constantly fights to keep its head out of the deep waters of powerful emotion.
submissive [DoM: See also Jackl/hyde comment]
I find the jekyll and hyde thing (that the writer has Pisces moon) very amusing.
other than that
I've seen this movie long ago. wasn't it about some "criminal act"?
I'm not criminal. If I kill anybody only by my absence. Not by my own hands.
other than that
I've seen this movie long ago. wasn't it about some "criminal act"?
I'm not criminal. If I kill anybody only by my absence. Not by my own hands.
Posted by P-AngelI beg to differ.Posted by Arielle83Posted by SensitiveBluesYa I see that.
He thinks being noon judgmental helps him.
It's an idiotic weak moon
They don't like strong opinions.
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Posted by MontgomeryPosted by P-AngelI beg to differ.Posted by Arielle83Posted by SensitiveBluesYa I see that.
He thinks being noon judgmental helps him.
It's an idiotic weak moon
They don't like strong opinions.
indeedclick to expand
I don't.
I don't even know what kind of thing a "strong opinion" is supposed to be. (I only know my opinion, yours, his, hers, ours and theirs) I don't like vague terms and I don't like to see them used as a label post-event.
I don't have a drug addiction, I just love them.
Stress? when I don't get enough sleep... or when someone is in physical pain or going through a rough time. Anything relating to myself I just sort of internalise it. I really can't do hate though... it's just not how I'm wired. It takes so much more energy to hate than to love.
Stress? when I don't get enough sleep... or when someone is in physical pain or going through a rough time. Anything relating to myself I just sort of internalise it. I really can't do hate though... it's just not how I'm wired. It takes so much more energy to hate than to love.
Posted by DonumDeiPosted by P-AngelMental instability never has and never will qualify as strong opinion. To reason with such individuals is like administering medicine to the dead!Posted by Arielle83Posted by SensitiveBluesYa I see that.
He thinks being noon judgmental helps him.
It's an idiotic weak moon
They don't like strong opinions.
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One question is if yall think those with Moon in Pisces have a void of Mercury and Saturn placements.
The other question is do you know the difference between "reasoning" and the "vibe" put into it? Like hating is hating no matter what the reason is. For whatever reason somebody hates a black/jew/woman/xyz, it is unpleasant.
Back to your analogy: Reasoning by the so-called "strong opinions" is like reading loudly some crap on the package insert for the patient instead of giving the medicine to him.
Posted by P-AngelHa! This describes me to a tee. Even today, someone asked me if I had a certain reagent. I have not only given them what they wanted, but also my own protocol and a lot of advice they didn't ask for. I even ended up offering to assist them with the experiment, which most likely will consist of me wasting a lot of my time doing the experiment for them 🙂!
They have no clue, really ... that to help others without being asked is intrusive. Since the lunar Pisces doesn't realize this, they will run to assist another, and then the other gets put-off by the Pisces, or doesn't even acknowledge all the Fish did for them to help them ... this sends the lunar Fish into believing that they are being taken for granted.
It's horrible because the lunar Fish was never being taken advantage of ..... rather this Fish really was intruding and imposing upon the other. And this Fish has zero clue to it, even when pointed out to them. They still have this false belief that they were helping.
The reason I offer to help without being asked is because I myself rarely ask for help. If someone notice my struggle and asks if I need help, I tend to refuse politely and then I hate myself for it! However, if they help me regardlessly (without asking), I am happy and grateful. I probably treat others the way I like to be treated, which is don't offer to help me, just do it!
Why is this terrible, though? Helping or giving makes me happy. I don't do it too often. I don't expect anything in return, Pisces like...
My 4º Pisces Moon conjuncts my Sun and opposes Jupiter in Leo. I'm boundless!
Posted by UndineThat's exactly where my moon is... what house is yours?
My 4º Pisces Moon conjuncts my Sun and opposes Jupiter in Leo. I'm boundless!
Posted by P-AngelThis is so true... I am working on this... Often it is because we feel what other people feel and it is not good so we try to change that so to speak.
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
PM
im an aquarius sun and pisces moon gosh im sensative this why i love my art and nothing elsa
Posted by piscesmoon2You're a Pisces sun too?Posted by P-AngelThis is so true... I am working on this... Often it is because we feel what other people feel and it is not good so we try to change that so to speak.
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
PMclick to expand
Posted by MontgomeryThe 3rd house. Yours?Posted by UndineThat's exactly where my moon is... what house is yours?
My 4º Pisces Moon conjuncts my Sun and opposes Jupiter in Leo. I'm boundless!click to expand
I can't relate to any of these responses, but that's nothing new. I'm constantly having an astrological identity crisis.
LOL! Enjoy as it lasts!
Posted by UndineThanksPosted by MontgomeryThe 3rd house. Yours?Posted by UndineThat's exactly where my moon is... what house is yours?
My 4º Pisces Moon conjuncts my Sun and opposes Jupiter in Leo. I'm boundless!click to expand
Mine is in the 11th.
Posted by MontgomeryIn vedic astrology I am...Posted by piscesmoon2You're a Pisces sun too?Posted by P-AngelThis is so true... I am working on this... Often it is because we feel what other people feel and it is not good so we try to change that so to speak.
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
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But my Venus conj. my moon by less then one degree... My moon in western astrology is in the 1st house as well... I have a crap tone of astroids as well there... Just quite heavy...
PM
@DonumDei: " my comment was in opposition to the statements made by the three individuals I quoted...NOT in agreement.
"
I knew this already.
I'm a little hard to understand I know.
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I knew this already.
I'm a little hard to understand I know.
So piscesmoon2 and Undine confirmed these statements:
"... then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
... while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness."
There we see what a difference the rest of the chart makes. Specially Mercury.
"... then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
... while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness."
There we see what a difference the rest of the chart makes. Specially Mercury.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveExcuse me? I never claimed to feel unappreciated or that someone was abusing me. And I've been on dxpnet for over 3 years 🙂!
So piscesmoon2 and Undine confirmed these statements:
"... then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
... while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness."
There we see what a difference the rest of the chart makes. Specially Mercury.
And what do you know about my Mercury...?
It certainly dislikes when someone says ridiculous things, and then attributes them to someone else!
It certainly dislikes when someone says ridiculous things, and then attributes them to someone else!
Posted by piscesmoon2Posted by P-AngelThis is so true... I am working on this... Often it is because we feel what other people feel and it is not good so we try to change that so to speak.
A Pisces moon is a horrible placement .... the worst, if the sun is in Pisces, also.
The Fish already struggle every day of their life with realizing that people don't always need you to help them. Add the moon to it .... and Pisces is rendered incapable of knowing the difference between helping someone who asked you to help them, and you just doing it because you want to and then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
From my observations .... a Pisces with a Pisces moon literally throw themselves at their own mercy, while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness.
It's quite bizarre.
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It's difficult, but change it you must.
People aren't feeling special when you help them without asking for assistant .. on the contrary.
Posted by MarchPisc3sWhat does that vague answer mean? I'm not sure if it's the appropriate time to feel offended or to make a joke.Posted by Scenic
I can't relate to any of these responses, but that's nothing new. I'm constantly having an astrological identity crisis.
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Posted by DwellingOnMoveYes, good that you acknowledge your mistake.Posted by UndinePosted by DwellingOnMoveExcuse me? I never claimed to feel unappreciated or that someone was abusing me. And I've been on dxpnet for over 3 years 🙂!
So piscesmoon2 and Undine confirmed these statements:
"... then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
... while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness."
There we see what a difference the rest of the chart makes. Specially Mercury.
You are right. You did not confirm that text.
You confirmed this one:
Posted by UndinePosted by P-AngelHa! This describes me to a tee. ...
They have no clue, really ... that to help others without being asked is intrusive. Since the lunar Pisces doesn't realize this, they will run to assist another, and then the other gets put-off by the Pisces, or doesn't even acknowledge all the Fish did for them to help them ... this sends the lunar Fish into believing that they are being taken for granted.
It's horrible because the lunar Fish was never being taken advantage of ..... rather this Fish really was intruding and imposing upon the other. And this Fish has zero clue to it, even when pointed out to them. They still have this false belief that they were helping.
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Being taken for granted happen to most of us.
Do and expect nothing in return. Then you will be happy.
Do and expect nothing in return. Then you will be happy.
Posted by Undine?Posted by DwellingOnMoveYes, good that you acknowledge your mistake.Posted by UndinePosted by DwellingOnMoveExcuse me? I never claimed to feel unappreciated or that someone was abusing me. And I've been on dxpnet for over 3 years 🙂!
So piscesmoon2 and Undine confirmed these statements:
"... then feeling disillusioned and unappreciated.
... while fully believing that another person is abusing them for not appreciating their kindness."
There we see what a difference the rest of the chart makes. Specially Mercury.
You are right. You did not confirm that text.
You confirmed this one:
Posted by UndinePosted by P-AngelHa! This describes me to a tee. ...
They have no clue, really ... that to help others without being asked is intrusive. Since the lunar Pisces doesn't realize this, they will run to assist another, and then the other gets put-off by the Pisces, or doesn't even acknowledge all the Fish did for them to help them ... this sends the lunar Fish into believing that they are being taken for granted.
It's horrible because the lunar Fish was never being taken advantage of ..... rather this Fish really was intruding and imposing upon the other. And this Fish has zero clue to it, even when pointed out to them. They still have this false belief that they were helping.
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I was also surprised that you copped p-gels bullshit statement.
(Believing that one is being taken for granted is the same as
believing one is unappreciated.)
I wonder if you read it, in its entirety.
Ha! Good point. I just don't equate being "taken for granted" with being "unappreciated". My English ex says you are right, though.
Talking to him, I was surprised that we also give slightly different meanings to the word "appreciation". Which sounds almost the same as in my mother's language, so I have no excuse saying I'm not a native speaker..
He said it was not possible to appreciate a free lunch. I though it was. Damn, I don't care. I still DO appreciate a free lunch, as long as it's well cooked 🙂! To appreciate something also ”‹means to be ”‹grateful for something.
I can take my "advisor" for granted, and still be grateful for the advice received.
Talking to him, I was surprised that we also give slightly different meanings to the word "appreciation". Which sounds almost the same as in my mother's language, so I have no excuse saying I'm not a native speaker..
He said it was not possible to appreciate a free lunch. I though it was. Damn, I don't care. I still DO appreciate a free lunch, as long as it's well cooked 🙂! To appreciate something also ”‹means to be ”‹grateful for something.
I can take my "advisor" for granted, and still be grateful for the advice received.
"I can take my "advisor" for granted, and still be grateful for the advice received."
ok, I agree with this. Being greateful is not the same as showing greatefulness.
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other than that the point is that P-A were using these terms to express her impression from lunar Pisces:
"believing"
"feeling"
"disillusioned"
"unappreciated"
"abusing"
"being taken for granted"
"being taken advantage of"
I checked these within myself and I could not confirm.
Of course I enjoy being of help. Of course I offer my help volantarily. Of course I think people use each other. Of course they sometimes ask for help. Of course sometimes I stay egoistic and do not help. Of course sometimes I am mad at them that they ask for more help immediately after I did one masterpiece of help werk to them. But I don't think that I get abused. Specially not on an asymetric basis. They help me too. I even ask strangers for help when I need it. So P-A was simplifying the complex of life and birth charts. Well, at least according to my brain.
ok, I agree with this. Being greateful is not the same as showing greatefulness.
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other than that the point is that P-A were using these terms to express her impression from lunar Pisces:
"believing"
"feeling"
"disillusioned"
"unappreciated"
"abusing"
"being taken for granted"
"being taken advantage of"
I checked these within myself and I could not confirm.
Of course I enjoy being of help. Of course I offer my help volantarily. Of course I think people use each other. Of course they sometimes ask for help. Of course sometimes I stay egoistic and do not help. Of course sometimes I am mad at them that they ask for more help immediately after I did one masterpiece of help werk to them. But I don't think that I get abused. Specially not on an asymetric basis. They help me too. I even ask strangers for help when I need it. So P-A was simplifying the complex of life and birth charts. Well, at least according to my brain.
I agree with you, DOM (and Monty). I overlooked the negative connotations in P-Angel’s rant! First and foremost I see the best in everything. Other Pisces mooners were not that gullible, though!
I think helping or advising others is always a good thing. Some people are too shy or too proud to ask for help. An intuitive moon such as ours should “feel” when it’s appropriate and when not! Of course we are not always right (or we choose to do it anyway). However, if help is unwanted, intrusive or unnecessary, they could politely decline. For example, I offered to help an old, skinny monk to carry his heavy luggage upstairs, and I was refused.
I always assume that if taken, my help was also appreciated. I cannot imagine any circumstance in which I would regret what I’ve did because I have not received some sort of extraordinary validation. Since when is “thank you” not enough? If one expects more and becomes disillusioned and unappreciated, what does it tell us about their moon? Most likely that is pettier and less generous than a Pisces moon!
Also, I think having sun and moon (conjunct) in the same sign is a good thing. It makes me self-contained, happy and balanced. This is exactly what I think about other Pisces sun and moon people from dxpnet.
I think helping or advising others is always a good thing. Some people are too shy or too proud to ask for help. An intuitive moon such as ours should “feel” when it’s appropriate and when not! Of course we are not always right (or we choose to do it anyway). However, if help is unwanted, intrusive or unnecessary, they could politely decline. For example, I offered to help an old, skinny monk to carry his heavy luggage upstairs, and I was refused.
I always assume that if taken, my help was also appreciated. I cannot imagine any circumstance in which I would regret what I’ve did because I have not received some sort of extraordinary validation. Since when is “thank you” not enough? If one expects more and becomes disillusioned and unappreciated, what does it tell us about their moon? Most likely that is pettier and less generous than a Pisces moon!
Also, I think having sun and moon (conjunct) in the same sign is a good thing. It makes me self-contained, happy and balanced. This is exactly what I think about other Pisces sun and moon people from dxpnet.
*what I've done*
"For example, I offered to help an old, skinny monk to carry his heavy luggage upstairs, and I was refused."
I have met homeless women who get mad at me when I wanted to give them money, cigarettes or something. It is unpleasant but I am ok with that. I don't try to know why. Probably each of them has another reason. I just accept that reality..
I have met homeless women who get mad at me when I wanted to give them money, cigarettes or something. It is unpleasant but I am ok with that. I don't try to know why. Probably each of them has another reason. I just accept that reality..
Posted by DwellingOnMoveLOL!! I woudn't understand it either. Misguided pride? Leo mooners 😛 ?
"For example, I offered to help an old, skinny monk to carry his heavy luggage upstairs, and I was refused."
I have met homeless women who get mad at me when I wanted to give them money, cigarettes or something. It is unpleasant but I am ok with that. I don't try to know why. Probably each of them has another reason. I just accept that reality..
Or not...my Leo moon sister finds no shame in accepting (or even asking) money from our retired, Leo moon parents. She also asked me once and I refused. Tough love is better in her case. She needs to get a grip on her finances and career.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveOf course, p-gel left out the greater aspect of all this--
"I can take my "advisor" for granted, and still be grateful for the advice received."
ok, I agree with this. Being greateful is not the same as showing greatefulness.
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other than that the point is that P-A were using these terms to express her impression from lunar Pisces:
"believing"
"feeling"
"disillusioned"
"unappreciated"
"abusing"
"being taken for granted"
"being taken advantage of"
I checked these within myself and I could not confirm.
Of course I enjoy being of help. Of course I offer my help volantarily. Of course I think people use each other. Of course they sometimes ask for help. Of course sometimes I stay egoistic and do not help. Of course sometimes I am mad at them that they ask for more help immediately after I did one masterpiece of help werk to them. But I don't think that I get abused. Specially not on an asymetric basis. They help me too. I even ask strangers for help when I need it. So P-A was simplifying the complex of life and birth charts. Well, at least according to my brain.
Help often arrives when I need it most... and I don't even
have to ask-- I'm sure you and @Undine know what I mean.
For THAT, I am grateful ... you get what you put out there.
I have this placement also its not that I choose to feel unappreciated at times I feel with jerk offs that make me feel that way. A take advantage of is so true. Then when get the balls to call them out on their shit. Your then the mean one
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