I am a Gemini man in love with a Pisces woman

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it was love at first sight, like cupid's arrows.

I met her and felt this intense connection and then I looked up Susan Miller's October forecast and many of the days and predictions coincided with this girl. Not only that, I've lost interest in other girls, even turning down guaranteed sex two days ago from a different girl because I wasn't feeling it. Every move I make concerning this girl seems to be validated through little signals and coincidences from life concerning her.

Problem is while we were getting to know each other she neglected to tell me she has a long distance boyfriend she hadn't broken up with yet, so when I found out she said we should move on until she figures this situation out. This was two weeks ago. I tried to give her her space, but I slipped and sent two texts in the two week span. Then two days ago I got her roses and a ticket to a bruno mars concert and left them at her apartment. She texted me the next day saying I wasn't listening to what she asked me and that she didn't find it charming but inconsiderate.

I have no idea what is going on, she just pulled away completely in the blink of an eye. I know she has the situation with her boyfriend, but her body language says she wants me badly, but her actions have me confused, I have no idea if to just move on, or wait it out. I bought her those flowers to cheer her up and she called me inconsiderate for it.

I got angry and texted her to throw them away or give them to someone who will appeciate them, and that's the last I've texted her and she never responded. I don't know where I stand at all,and I'm afraid to try to find out since making contact with her is apparently taboo. Yet she won't cut me loose, its as easy as telling me she is staying with her boyfriend, but she won't do that either. She is keeping me in limbo, yet I'm the inconsiderate one?

What do I do? She triggered something in me that no woman has triggered in a very long time, I know she is special, but how do I balance my desire for her with the space that she requires? As a Gemini patience is not a virtue I have, her not contacting me makes me feel like she isn't interested which in turn messes with my confidence. Its no fun.

Any advice as to how to proceed? Any similar experiences?
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Me:

Sun Gemini 21.35
Moon Taurus 26.39
Mercury Gemini 22.49 R
Venus Gemini 22.37 R
Mars Pisces 13.03
Jupiter Taurus 22.05
Saturn Sagittarius
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio 10.09
Lilith Virgo 3.13
Asc node Pisces 18.24





Her:

Sun Pisces 20.39
Moon Taurus 9.32
Mercury Pisces 0.46
Venus Pisces 14.25
Mars Taurus 29.56
Jupiter Gemini 0.01
Saturn Capricorn 12.28
Uranus Capricorn 4.58
Neptune Capricorn 12.05
Pluto Scorpio 15.03 R
Lilith Libra 3.30
Asc node Pisces
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here is the whole story, maybe someone can gather something from it. Its pretty detailed. I wrote it for a different forum, so sorry if it seems redundant.

"So long story short I finally met a girl a few weeks ago that stimulates me in a way that I've been searching for for a long time. We've hung out and gone out and we have one hell of a connection. A few weeks ago we hung out and had an amazing night, the chemistry and sexual tension was so dense you could cut it with a knife. I asked her about her last relationship and she told me to move on to the next subject. She seemed distraught by my question, so I asked if it was recent and she nodded.

So what I put together from this is that she had recently broken up with her boyfriend, was still hurting, etc etc. So I kind of put my foot down and told her I wanted to invest time in her but not if she was going to be going back and forth with her ex. She said that she wasn't, but that she wasn't in the right place to be involved with anyone right now. She told me when she was I would be the first to know. I told her she didn't have to push me away, and she told me she wishes that she didn't have to. That she wished she could be with me, but that the timing was just off.

At this point I feel it in my gut this girl is meant to be HUGE in my life, she triggered feelings in me I haven't felt in so long. It was really almost love at first site sort of deal. And I know the night we met she couldn't get her eyes off of me. We danced and instantly our bodies melted together, her warmth was amazing, its like the rest of the room ceased to exist. So I became a little distraught by this new obstacle, but I knew it was a test from life. We chat a little that weekend but nothing too heavy, at this point I'm confused about her feelings for me, and I don't know if she's just letting me down easy. But then I realize that the night we hung out her body language was simply too strong to have died down so quickly with no real action on my part.

So this was about two Friday's ago. That weekend I did not text her again until Saturday at 2am in the morning when I texted her "If I could find you a blue french horn I would get you one.". We both love How I Met Your Mother so I knew she would get the reference, and the implication behind it. She texted me back Sunday night and told me that was a very good line. We text for the rest of the night. She stops texting at 10ish so I don't hit her up either Sunday or Monday.

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.The following Tuesday my younger brother and I had a huge argument to start off the day, so to make-up we smoked a blunt. The thing is he had class soon and parking is a bitch at his school, so he asked me to drop him off at school so he wouldn't be late. He attends the same university as the girl. I start talking to him about her and I tell him it would be cool if I ran into her. Two seconds later my brother non-chalantly points and says "Look, that's her right there". Now, I took it as a joke because the girl he was pointing to was A.) facing away from us B.) My brother had never met her or seen a clear picture of her face, even less her body from behind. I get a tingle in my gut and I tell him to pull up, and it is indeed her. On a campus with 30,000 students within 20 seconds I saw the girl that I had already been feeling was destined for me. It felt almost like I summoned her.

I flagged her down but she was late for class and didn't pay me much attention, told me she had to go. I didn't get a good vibe, but I did realize how being late to class can affect your comportment, and that it wasn't personal. I texted her later that day to joke about me totally not stalking her. I got no reply. So I decided I was going to sit back for a bit and give her space.

But I'm a total pussy and I cave in. The next morning at 7am I leave her 3 voicemails pretty much just telling her that I like her and have such a good feeling about us. She texts me back later that afternoon that she appreciates me being upfront with my feelings, but that she meant it when she said she couldn't be involved with anyone right now. At this point I decided to just play it cool and let her miss me a little bit, so I don't respond at all. Rest of Wednesday goes by, Thursday goes by, then Friday arrives.

The bar I met her was having its closing weekend this weekend, so I went there Friday night. Its my home bar, the spot I went to every weekend because my gut always told me that I would meet the girl for me there. I don't know what it was, but I just felt so comfortable there. I go Friday night and I am bored out of my mind and I start missing the girl. My heart is just straight longing for her, and none of the other girls in the club do not interest me in the least. I start contemplating just going home, but something in my heart tells me to stay. Around midnight I'm talking to some girl when I see the most beautiful face pop into view, it was her. She came to ME. She KNEW I would
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be there and she went looking for me. When I desired nothing more than her, life brought her right to me. My first instinct was to act as if I didn't see her and to grab the girl I was talking to and dance with her. In my peripheral I see the girl I like making her way around the bar towards the back where I am at. I turn to her and we lock eyes, and she calls me over to her. She pulls me aside and immediately I tell her I knew I would be seeing her tonight. She smiles and says that she knew too, and then says "why did you have to be here!", but it was not in the context of "I don't like you" but rather "I like you a lot and you make it hard to control myself."

We start dancing and we melt again, like the first night. Hand in hand, pressed against each other, enjoying the delicious tension between us. We remain inseparable until bar close, when we then leave. She hugs me, tells me to text her, and she goes home.

The next day would be yesterday, is Sweetest day, and I have something planned.I bought her a french horn charm necklace, and I spray painted the horn metallic blue. It looked like a tiny replica of the blue french horn from the show. I invited her to come out to the bar that night since it was the last night it would be open. She said she would consider it.

Later that night she shows up with two friends, and once again we're all over each other. Her friends like me and we joke around, and everything is just going awesome. At one point while dancing I pull out the charm necklace and slip it in her hand. She analyzes it, turns around eyes wide in amazement, and asks me where I got it. I told her that wasn't important. Her and her friends then went to the bathroom, and when she came back she was wearing the necklace. She loved it. I offered to give them a ride home and I told them that I didn't drink so that I could take them home safely. I dropped her and her friends off by her apartment building. Her friends leave my truck and she stays behind to say bye, when suddenly a different friend I hadn't met opens my truck door and tells me "The universe doesn't want you together, she has a boyfriend that she is going to go see next week"
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I was floored. She hurried off and I just drove off kind of in a daze. I was angry and hurt. I called her. No answer. I texted her to call me. No answer. Finally I drove back to her building and told her I would not leave until she came out to talk to me. We talked and she fessed up and told me she did indeed have a boyfriend, but that its long distance and she hasn't been happy in a long time. She says she wants to end it with him because she can not handle the distance. She says the reason she didn't tell me was that she realized on our 2nd meeting that she had feelings for me and was afraid to tell me. She says she is flying to see him in a week and that's when she plans to end it.

I told her I've been the other guy before and I got burned badly, and I tell her intent and execution are two different things. She then tells me that since she has no way of convincing me that she is ending it, we shouldn't talk until she goes through with it. I got candid with her and told her her friend was wrong, the Universe had given me nothing but green lights to pursue her. I told her I knew we were meant to be special to each other. She apologizes for lying to me, and tells me she has to go. We hug and she points out how good I smell. She runs off and I drive home, deep in thought.

This is another obstacle, but I have to destroy it. I get home and the first thing I text her is "You know what, if that is the man of your dreams and the man you want to spend the rest of your life with then fight for him, I won't interfere. Strawman technique, had never used it but with her emotional state it seemed like the right thing to say to her. I put him at a standard he couldn't possibly be at so that she has to sit in her head and compare him to the strawman I created. I feel bad, but I see this girl being the mother of my children. She texts me back at 6am to tell me she has fought, but it just isn't working any more.

I then started to guilt trip her about lying to me, how if the roles had been reversed she would consider me a dog, but since she's a girl I'm supposed to brush it off as if it were nothing. She apologized again and said she felt terrible. I then told her I don't lie to people I trust, and I don't trust people who lie to me. She responded that she knew I thought she was a horrible person but that when she realized she had feelings for me that she tried to warn me that she couldn't be involved. I responded by telling her there is a big difference between t
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That was this morning. I haven't texted back. I am playing the "angry" role and ignoring her for a couple of days to let her marinate in her thoughts. I've done everything I could possibly do. You know how people who are married a long time say they just knew? I've been searching 22 years to find what this girl makes me feel. When I think of all the things I want in a girl for me she fits the mold almost perfectly. Her sense of humor is like mine, her hobbies are like mine, she is interested in my culture, and she speaks Spanish so she can communicate with my mother. She is also the same height and sign as my mother. I know these are insignificant things to some, but to me these are all small clues life is tossing my way to put together a big picture.

Everything so far has flowed, even when I didn't pursue her life keeps putting her in my path. I can see long, long term with this girl, when usually I am terrified of commitment and settling. She eases those fears.

Even as I was typing this at my university I got a sign from life about her once again. The first night I met her after the bar we went outside and one of the bouncers at the bar started joking with her about how great of a guy I was because I was always out partying and drinking, just running some real cool wing man game. Her ride arrives and the bouncer tells me "Man dude, she is hot". I smile at the validation.

Yesterday when I got them in free it was that same bouncer that let them slide without the cover charge, doing me one hell of a solid.

Well today while typing this he literally shows up at this computer lab and is a foot away from me and I say hello. As I'm typing about the girl the bouncer most involved in the story happens to show up. I had no idea he even attended this university, and he obviously had no idea that I did either. Just more validation that I am going down the right road.

At this point the ball is in her court, hopefully this triangle is one that I end up conquering. I'm kind of scared that the guy will take the opportunity to propose or something and she will accept, but I think in 3 weeks I've gotten too deep in her emotions for her to not want to explore the possibility.

I'm just going to wait it out a few days. Maybe say hi on Wednesday or something. I want to ignore her long enough for her to believe my anger and to start missing me. At this point I've put it all out there, my only move is pulling the rug from under her and having her scramble to g
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et it back.

LL, I feel it in my bones that I will marry that girl. i've only known her 3 weeks but I just feel it. None of the other girls I was talking to interest me at all any more.

And this isn't a case of me being a lonely nerd who falls in love with any girl who pays him attention. Usually I don't want the commitment, I just want the goodies. But with this girl from the moment I laid eyes on her I wanted to love her and cherish her, sex was the least of my concerns.

Well there is my story. Figured it would help me to share it and maybe see if people have been in similar situations. I know there is a good chance I get hurt, but there is also a good chance that I get the girl I've been waiting for for a long long time. I have many other more signs from life giving me the go-ahead with this girl, but I've excluded them to shorten what is already a mammoth wall-o-text.


So any advice as to how to proceed? And keep in mind this isn't about me trying to steal a girlfriend, this about me falling for a girl who lied about her single status to ME. And at this point that revelation is not enough to stop me from wanting to do everything in my power to make her mine.
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that post was written on a different forum a few weeks ago so sorry if it comes off as recent. The events in the OP happened after I made the above posting, I now know that with Pisces you're better off being passive aggressive than too forward. Hopefully I didn't screw things up, every thing about her is just great.

and I know Gem/Pisces aren't a match made in heaven, but the biggest female influence in my life (my mother) who I am extremely close with is also a Pisces, and my father is a Gemini. Yeah, they are two completely different people, but that pairing led to me, so its a very romantic combination in my mind being that I'm the offspring of fish and twins.
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"Her:
Sun Pisces 20.39
Moon Taurus 9.32
Mercury Pisces 0.46
Venus Pisces 14.25
Mars Taurus 29.56"

This is me too.. except my Venus is in Aries. I alternate between sweet and harsh when I'm frustrated by something, so bear with me - dunno what you'll get here, but I assure you .. it's for YOUR benefit, not mine.

Sweetie.. it's really sweet and all that you feel the heavenly angels have conspired to drop one of their own into your lap, and I am totally a sucker for romance, hearts and flowers and rainbows and all. But you're freaking ME the fuck out, so you GOTTA be giving her the heebie-jeebies. YOU may "know" after three weeks that she's the love of your life and future wife/mother of your children (HOMG, DUDE.. WTF?!).. but to HER, YOU are still just a really awesome, attractive, fun guy she met three weeks ago - at a time when her love life is really messed up and confusing. But now you're rapidly becoming a creeper. :c

The fact is, she said she NEEDS this space and distance to sort out her remaining feelings about the LD bf and to prove (to you AND to herself) that she's finished with the man... but you aren't giving it to her. Instead, you're playing manipulative games with your Strawman setup and your guilt trips - BIG no-no.. stop fucking with her feelings, dude.. Stop trying to MAKE her love you, want you, choose you. (A Fish has to come to you, if you come at them like this they'll swim away!) Truth is, according to the timeline here.. you knew within ONE WEEK about the bf. Honey - even if she's freak-dancing with you so tight you can FEEL the color of her thong and has stars in her eyes and you can SEE the heatwaves pouring off her body.. she certainly was NOT required to tell a guy she was just hanging/flirting with that she has a LD bf and personal relationship issues that she SAID she didn't want to discuss. YOU feel duped because you duped YOURSELF, because you are SO SPUN on this girl you charged blindly ahead without even bothering to see if she was coming along. She's very sensitive (so much Pisces!) and having a hard time with deciding and doing what she wants/needs to right now.. and you're steam-rollering her and completely disregarding HER feelings and HER wants in this.

I'm going to break it down into smaller bites.
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I met her and felt this intense connection and then I looked up Susan Miller's October forecast and many of the days and predictions coincided with this girl. Not only that, I've lost interest in other girls, even turning down guaranteed sex two days ago from a different girl because I wasn't feeling it. Every move I make concerning this girl seems to be validated through little signals and coincidences from life concerning her.

Sweet.. but borderline creepy.. like you're trying to JUSTIFY your intense urge to STALK her.. to MAKE her love you! ("Paparazzi") While you're waiting to see if the Pisces is really going to leave her bf, maybe you SHOULD date other girls a bit... keep you from lazer-focusing on her! (Are you SURE you got your birth chart right? You're acting like a Scorpio, scarily intense when they want something!)

Problem is while we were getting to know each other she neglected to tell me she has a long distance boyfriend she hadn't broken up with yet, so when I found out she said we should move on until she figures this situation out. This was two weeks ago.

Like I said before, she didn't OWE you having to explain a very stressful, painful, personal situation to a guy she knew for a WEEK.. so stop thinking she did. You've known for two weeks now AND she asked for space and time... it hasn't stopped you, it's only made you try harder. How is that HER fault?

I tried to give her her space, but I slipped and sent two texts in the two week span. Then two days ago I got her roses and a ticket to a bruno mars concert and left them at her apartment. She texted me the next day saying I wasn't listening to what she asked me and that she didn't find it charming but inconsiderate.

TRY HARDER! Stop texting her! GIVE HER THE SPACE SHE ASKED FOR! And OMFG.. flowers and concert tickets AFTER she oh so kindly asked you to back off a bit?? Left at her apartment?!!? That would SCREAM friggin' PSYCHO STALKER at me.. I would be FURIOUS, I'd feel VIOLATED, pressured, and PISSED! She called you inconsiderate.. I'd have told you I was THISCLOSE to slapping a restraining order on your ass! (But if I really LIKED you and didn't want to HURT you, I might simply text you and call you "inconsiderate.")

Do you NOT see how looney tunes your behavior is? All in the name of love, my ass.. all in the name of obsession. Dude, this shit is totally creepy! :c
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I have no idea what is going on, she just pulled away completely in the blink of an eye. I know she has the situation with her boyfriend, but her body language says she wants me badly, but her actions have me confused, I have no idea if to just move on, or wait it out. I bought her those flowers to cheer her up and she called me inconsiderate for it.

She pulled away because you aren't LISTENING to her. YES she may WANT you badly.. but her emotions are still tangled with another.. and contrary to some opinions, Pisces DON'T take it lightly. They tend to want to be DONE with a situation BEFORE starting another, NOT DURING. Why are her actions confusing? She liked you, is attracted.. but she's not free to be with you currently and SAID SO.. she didn't ask for space, then blow up your phone, and then act like YOU'RE the confusing one. The flowers/tix LEFT AT HER HOME was CREEPY. It wasn't sweet or thoughtful or cheerful.. it was CRAZY. So get off your high horse about her "ungrateful attitude".. YOU fucked up.

I got angry and texted her to throw them away or give them to someone who will appeciate them, and that's the last I've texted her and she never responded. I don't know where I stand at all,and I'm afraid to try to find out since making contact with her is apparently taboo. Yet she won't cut me loose, its as easy as telling me she is staying with her boyfriend, but she won't do that either. She is keeping me in limbo, yet I'm the inconsiderate one?

What a dick move to say that, tsk tsk. Of course she's silent.. you're creeping her out, won't listen, won't back away, and she NEEDS THE SPACE. You don't know where you stand with her? I do.. YOU DON'T stand with her. She's attracted to you, had fun.. you got weird and pushy.. but it's ONLY 3 WEEKS! Won't cut you loose? Won't tell you she's staying w/ LD bf? She SAID you'd be the first to know; she hasn't done it yet, hasn't chosen. Breaking up isn't EASY, and you are IMPATIENT, Gemini!
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What do I do? She triggered something in me that no woman has triggered in a very long time, I know she is special, but how do I balance my desire for her with the space that she requires? As a Gemini patience is not a virtue I have, her not contacting me makes me feel like she isn't interested which in turn messes with my confidence. Its no fun.

Any advice as to how to proceed? Any similar experiences?

You just DO it, you just BALANCE it. You STOP texting her, calling her, leaving VMs, leaving gifts, pushing and pulling at her. You go out with other girls and loosen the stranglehold this UNAVAILABLE girl has on you. Trust me, she's interested.. otherwise, she'd tell you to fuck off after the way you're acting. Her NOT calling means she's still sorting things out over the last two weeks. Emotions are harder to untangle, compared to logical decisions. She's not making a purely logical decision right now so things are not lining up in an orderly fashion and on YOUR timeline, she's taking her emotions into account.. which get messy sometimes. GIVE HER SPACE. For the love of all that's holy, if you want a chance with this woman, STOP what you've been doing and DON'T do any of the crazy things that pop into your head.

AT MOST, send her ONE text every week or ten days.. a NICE, non-pushy one like, "Hi there, Pisces. Hope things are going good for you and you aren't too stressed out. Have a lovely week." SHORT and SWEET, NO PRESSURE... and NO QUESTIONS. I know you might be thinking it would be better for you to say, "ARE you having a good week?" etc etc.. it's NOT going to make her feel obligated to answer.. it WILL make her feel like YOU are TRYING to make her feel obligated to answer.. and then she won't. Guaranteed she's a stubborn bitch like me, you can't FORCE her to give in to you... you WON'T get her by pushing. You will only get her by sitting quietly for a bit and doing as she asked, giving her space to untangle her life.

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Experience? Yes... I have. With a pushy, over-the-top guy who wanted me so badly he pushed and pushed until he totally creeped me out, like buying me a $ 1,700 custom made opal ring for my birthday.. after three casual dates and NOTHING "physical." By offering me his "old" car when he bought another.. and when I refused, HE GAVE IT TO MY BROTHER TO GIVE TO ME. By calling me even after I asked him not to. By leaving love letters/poems and "mix tapes" in my friggin' mailbox. By delivering flowers to my work. I finally had to return EVERYTHING to him, and had to break ALL contact with him, forever. I asked him to slow down, give me space, I was recently heartbroken. He couldn't or wouldn't, and I finally couldn't take it anymore. Don't be that guy.

If she likes you, if she's that attracted to you.. she will come around once her life settles down a bit and she doesn't have to feel guilty for being attracted to another guy before her longtime LD bf is out of the picture. But there's always a chance she'll choose HIM.. they have history.. there might be problems, issues.. but there must be something that kept her with him that long. And chasing her WON'T make her decide any faster... unless the decision you really want comes with P.P.O. across the top. :c
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Oh, want more insight into a mind similar to your Pisces girl's? (Mine.) Have a read here: https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/libra-man-confused-about-pisces-girl-1877025/
...he was a Libra (Air like you, so you may identify with him!), totally spun over a Pisces girl who "flirted" with him at work for a few months.. but SAID she was taken, wasn't available for anything but friendship. He persisted with gifts and calls and stuff and got creepy. I tried my best to advise, in vain. I think by the end, he claimed he found out she was a lesbian and hid it from him (which I still don't believe.. I think his ego was making him try to save face!) But irregardless, there is a lot of information about the way Pisces girls think (Mercury is our thinking.. she and I BOTH have it!).. esp me.. esp being so much like YOUR Pisces with our shockingly similar charts.

If I can help you, I want to. I don't MEAN to come across mean and bitchy. I genuinely want to help you EASE into this with her.. hey, you MAY be the love of her life, the man who was so crazy about her from the get-go that he will move mountains to be the best man he can be for her. And that would be lovely. But if you can't put your pushy, demanding, stalkerish tendencies to rest, this will never work. :c
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Thanks Nefer, definitely the tough love I need. I am happy to say I haven't texted her at all since I said I stopped.

And seavixen that isn't it at all. If you read my story she literally had done the same thing two weeks before about needing space (this was before telling me about the boyfriend), didn't talk to me for a week and then literally went to look for me at the club she knew I would be at and her plea for space went right out the window until I found out that weekend about her boyfriend. I know I haven't been perfect, but she's definitely lied and planted the seeds of a relationship while in a relationship already. Its hard to take a plea of space when she herself broke it the first time...while still with her boyfriend. If she weren't into me its as simple as saying "I'm staying with my boyfriend" rather than staying quiet about it.


Its been really spiritual reading into your sign, especially because it is also my mother's sign, so I feel a lot of the qualities of the sign have rubbed off on me. Its nice to see her actions through a pisces perspective because I get to understand more than the face value of "she likes me but isn't talking to me".
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and I definitely would love your help Nefer, I promise to follow your advice, there is too much to lose here for me to ruin it with impatience.

The good thing is I've been very forward about my feelings with her from the beginning, and she dealt with it great. Usually that level of emotion I displayed would scare a person off if they weren't interested, yet it made her be more into me.

I understand myself what its like to end a relationship, and she's probably dealing with her boyfriend/ex and all the emotional baggage in that relationship, and from what I've seen she is very conscious of how she comes off, and I don't think she would consider it classy to end a 2 year relationship and give me her all not even a week later. I'm more of a roll with the punches, go with your gut types, but I'm starting to learn that not everyone is this way and I shouldn't try to force people to be.

Thanks again for the detailed paragraph by paragraph break down, its exactly what I wanted when I made this topic and you delivered, thank you 🙂
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just heard this song, and I know when you like someone all love songs remind you of them

but this song literally describes to a T the feeling that overwhelmed me when I laid eyes on this girl, I saw marriage, I saw kids, I saw a home, all in a flash, I felt no fear of commitment or being tied down, when I met her that burning desire in me to sexually conquer women just stopped. I have been hanging out with several girls, and I seem to be meeting someone new every other day these days, the thing is none of them move me whatsoever, the entire time I'm thinking about her. Like the song says, yeah, I know it sounds crazy, HELL, I FEEL CRAZY. I am normally a rational person who DOESN'T try rushing into commitment. I'm usually the "lets hang out and enjoy the perks of hanging out with out the commitment" types, I guess because I knew none of them were her. Its just mind-blowing to me that my body would react so strongly to a girl I barely knew, when normally I'll know a girl ages and never find 1/100th of the love I felt for this girl the night I met her.

I'm doing my best, its not her fault, but I have myself in limbo, its such a confusing time. I'm lonely, yet its a happier loneliness than in the past because my heart is full and I have no desire to try to fill the hole with meaningless sex and flings. I know we're not involved, but I've made a commitment to myself to cut back significantly on my promiscuity while I'm chasing this girl, because it feels cheap to speak words of how strongly I feel, but then not change the way I behave. The flings were to try to fill that emptiness, but meeting her filled that. Even if she is not the one I've learned so much just by being in this experience, about myself, others, and that no matter how crazy you may feel, you can always find a song to validate your craziness!

Sorry to talk your ears off guys! I am a Gem after all, ha ha
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Oh and last thing, promise, I wanted to elaborate on a certain part.

"Like I said before, she didn't OWE you having to explain a very stressful, painful, personal situation to a guy she knew for a WEEK.. so stop thinking she did. You've known for two weeks now AND she asked for space and time... it hasn't stopped you, it's only made you try harder. How is that HER fault?"

She didn't tell me she was single, but she definitely implied it, especially when I gave her the necklace and through her comments. She was NOT honest about being in a relationship, I would have never taken it so far with a girl with a boyfriend. Yeah we had only known each other 3 weeks, but in those 3 weeks we discussed it enough where I shouldn't have had to find out about her having a boyfriend from her friend, that is definitely her fault. And when she asked for space the first time (which I know realize was her telling me she had a boyfriend without actually telling me) she broke it off herself to find ME, WHILE still being with her boyfriend. So I know I've been a little forward and haven't listened to her wishes, but she didn't listen to her OWN wishes. I thinks its only fair if I'm in the wrong for communicating with her when she says she needs space, its wrong of her to know that the reason she needs space is because she has a boyfriend, and to still ignore that and seek me out WHILE I WAS GIVING HER SPACE. This is where I say my confusion comes from. This isn't slight flirtiness or passive aggressive behavior that I'm misinterpreting. If you know I only go to one club, and that club is having its closing weekend, and you show up knowing full well I'm there, and then proceed to act with me like the whole "space" talk never happened, that is definitely reason enough for some confusion.

But I promise, I won't be an airhead like that Libra guy and project my desires on to her, ball's in her court and its staying there. I just don't no what club she'll have to look for me at this time, my spot is closed for ever 😢
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Damn, this a lot of babble .... how can you expect a person to care enough to read all this?

You would have gotten a lot more responses if you had been able to summarize in just a SHORT paragraph or two .... I thought Virgos bored people !!!!!

The Fish has swam so far away that they are on the other side of continent and you've only just said Hi ... seriously, if you want aid then you need to learn how to focus your emotional energy.
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Posted by P-Angel
Damn, this a lot of babble .... how can you expect a person to care enough to read all this?

You would have gotten a lot more responses if you had been able to summarize in just a SHORT paragraph or two .... I thought Virgos bored people !!!!!

The Fish has swam so far away that they are on the other side of continent and you've only just said Hi ... seriously, if you want aid then you need to learn how to focus your emotional energy.




lol, i was thinking the same thing

yes I needed a hefty dose of "NO-DOZ" when talking with my Virgo ex ,I really got flustered and a headache just skimming this one.




My 2 cents is..CLING doesnt work for me and more times than not men DONT *grow* on me, I either want to be with you or I dont and I know fairly quickly too..and if I *really* wanted to be with you N-O-T-H-I-N-G would stand in my way.

Just how this pisces heart works, she *may* be different..

Best wishes though 🙂
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That's fine. Whoever wants to read through it and comment that is perfectly fine with me, if its too taxing for you to read my thoughts and emotions then save your two cents. I came here looking for advice and to share my story with someone for some outside perspective, matters of the heart don't get summarized, and what you consider babble I consider my existence and consciousness. Put yours in a box, I'm not.
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I am very happy that I seem to have reached you somehow, that you saw past my harshness to the message within. You must really be crazy about her, and she may make you feel crazy inside, you just must not ACT crazy or DO crazy things, lest you drive your Mermaid back to the depths of her ocean. lol

Now, you're a Gemini Mercury... I'm a Pisces Mercury (like your Mermaid).. we think and process things totally different. I've known my Libra (Libra Mercury) for about 7 years now... and communication is STILL something we have to actively WORK AT. In a nutshell, Pisces thinking is kaleidoscope, a mish-mosh of snippets and feelings and abstracts and fleeting impressions, it's everything and nothing... very different from your linear, logical, neatly packaged thinking. You think in B&W and primary colors, with perhaps a few shades of grey... we think in ALL COLORS, even colors without name, ALL shapes, ALL ideas, thoughts, words, feelings. Caligula on here calls it "speaking Marine".. it's like underwater speak that non-Fish have trouble making heads or tails of. They just wanna go, "Stop talking like that.. wtf it's not making much sense.. are you HIGH?!... all this babbling goobeldy-gook... speak clearly!" And we blink and go, "But I AM speaking clearly."

So, I'm going to TRY to bridge this gap in understanding, and that means I'm going to run my mouth (fingers) at great length. Consider yourself warned. Get a cup of coffee or something.

Firstly, I am NOT telling you to go be a man-whore, esp if that would be returning to bad habits lol I just hope you aren't sitting around, pining for this girl, and neglecting everything else you can - God, that's SO unattractive. When I said go out.. I meant GO OUT, not sleep with. But hey, for you it might just make it worse, if you're hung up so bad on this girl. You know you better than I do. Whether you do or don't go out with others, DO NOT get obsessive with the Pisces. She WON'T find THAT charming, either. Don't be creepy. This is WAY too intense for someone who isn't even involved with this chick, and you know it even if you can't help it. Put on your velvet gloves.. the racing gloves aren't working. LOL
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Okay, break down time.

She didn't tell me she was single, but she definitely implied it, especially when I gave her the necklace and through her comments. She was NOT honest about being in a relationship, I would have never taken it so far with a girl with a boyfriend.

there you go again.. you want to be RIGHT, you want to be JUSTIFIED, you want TEH CRAZY to be someone else's fault. (Plus you bought her jewelry - RED FLAG for me!) I get it. But to be perfectly honest (cuz I am)... I honestly don't care if she flat out LIED to you and said, "I'm totally 100% single.".. even at three whole weeks into your flirty fun .. encounter.. it's STILL none of your business. None. Did I mention.. none? NONE! (You damn Airs.. you always want to KNOW shit that's NOYB! lol) but she DIDN'T do that.. she didn't tell you she was single. she only didn't TELL YOU something SO PERSONAL and PRIVATE and TOO PAINFUL to talk about that was.. say it with me again.. none of your business. She is in the process of "emotionally checking out of" her former relationship.. still a mess, still tangled. So she found herself attracted to you. but the break up isn't OFFICIAL.. therefore she cannot ACT on her attraction yet. Patience, gemini. YOU got ahead of her in the Relationship Timeline and that's NOT her fault!... you're expecting more openness than she can give to a guy she's known 3 weeks! If SHE were ahead of YOU and head over hells, she'd have revealed more to you. She's not. You're so hurt right now because you're in love with her, you keep forgetting that in HER mind, she hardly knows you, and DOESN'T owe you something she'd never give a near-stranger.. the openness and transparency you crave!

And you need to read some more Pisces threads.. Pisces are called secretive and private and mysterious for a reason. we keep a lot of stuff private, locked up inside, very few people in our whole lives will be allowed into the "inner sanctum".. it's not that our "secrets" are a big deal (esp to you).. it's just the way we are.. we're like the ocean.. you can see the surface for miles around, and a little deeper as you get close... but the real depths? They're almost unknowable - she may NEVER let you all the way in, she may ALWAYS hold back things, SILLY things you don't know why.. can you live with that, really? (It drives my Libra INSANE... he's an Air.. he wants to KNOW ALL, every thought, pretty much NOTHING is sacred or private... and he feels
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and he feels so.. LIED TO.. if I don't TELL him something so simple as... I've been worrying about my blood pressure!) He wants me fully open and transparent.. but automatically.. even if he NEVER ASKED, and DIDN'T say, "Honey.. you seem worried lately.. is something wrong?" (or.. errmm.."hey Pisces girl.. are you single or do you have a bf? Oh - you don't want to talk about it? Well, you don't have to TALK about it.. just tell me if I'm wasting my time flirting with some other guy's girl or if you are available and willing. still won't answer? Okay, that's as good as a yes to the bf. Bye.") YOU took her not wanting to talk about the painful situation as "I'm single".. without ever clarifying it. She didn't LIE to you.. YOU LIED TO YOU. You were THAT attracted to her.. I GET it. But don't blame HER for YOUR assumptions. yes, a Pisces WILL let you assume whatever you want to, esp if they have no reason or desire to set you straight. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GUY SHE'S READY TO DUMP.


Yeah we had only known each other 3 weeks, but in those 3 weeks we discussed it enough where I shouldn't have had to find out about her having a boyfriend from her friend, that is definitely her fault.

NOYB. Say it again. And yes, what a SHITTY way to find out... and aside from YOUR discomfiture at the news of her LD bf... have you thought about how HUMILIATED she must feel for her "friend" to shout it out like that? At a guy she was talking to, having fun with, getting to know... maybe really liked. And maybe that "friend" is actually on ol' boy's side.. and just wanted to cause shit. Worked too, huh? So you got to find out something that was NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS about a girl you'd been schmoozing on for a couple weeks. And now you've got this whole attitude towards her like, "you're a liar.. you're a cheat.. even though we didn't DO anything.. how DARE you not tell me this stuff." It's no wonder she doesn't want to be around you right now, if you're still so stuck on the fact that she didn't tell you about the guy, and you didn't find out soon enough to satisfy YOU. oh.. and don't tell me how things would have been SOOO different if you'd found out that very first night that she "has a LD bf she's in the process of breaking up with".. you've already said HERE.. you were hooked from the start.. you've SHOWN that nothing she says or does is discouraging you. So either GET PAST the fact that she didn't SHARE THAT INFO with you.. and I mean RE
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REALLY GET OVER IT... or it's going to EAT YOU ALIVE.. and even if you started dating her.. you'd drive her fucking NUTS with your distrusting attitude because she didn't tell some flirty Gemini about her almost-ex in the first few weeks of getting to know the guy.

And when she asked for space the first time (which I know realize was her telling me she had a boyfriend without actually telling me)

NO. That was her telling you SHE NEEDS SPACE. She WASN'T PLANNING to tell you about the guy - she was probably figuring (besides NOYB).. it would be settled before it could be an ISSUE between you (aka you start dating or sleeping together, etc. Did you even kiss her? You haven't mentioned making out. Dude. You crazy.) She did NOT intend to go into the whole sordid mess of her almost-ex she was about to dump. WTF is wrong with you? What kind of girl would begin chatting up a new guy saying, "Oh, I'm dumping my bf of 2 years. Well, soon. Cuz I'm hot for you. But I won't dump you, k? Cuz I'm a very loving person."... I mean, shit.. how in the HELL could she explain this MESS to a guy she just met, without it sounding like a tragedy.. or like she's a crazy, fickle whore?

she broke it off herself to find ME..(etc etc)...reason enough for some confusion.

DECIDE. RIGHT NOW. PICK ONE.. do you want her or do you not? Since SHE asked for space to sort this mess out, GIVE IT TO HER. If SHE wants to BREAK her self-imposed rules.. and search you out, find you, be around you.. if you want her to.. LET HER... that does NOT give YOU the right to break the SPACE RULE. YOU have to give her space SO THAT SHE DOES come back around.. that's when a Fish swims closer.. when there's NO PRESSURE. You CANNOT say SHE broke HER rules, so now SO CAN YOU. NO NO NO! You cannot.. not if you want to succeed. IF YOU PUSH HER, SHE WILL SWIM AWAY. There is nothing for YOU to be confused about, Gemini boy. LISTEN to me. She is attracted to you.. she LIKES you.. she WANTS you... she is tangled up in the mess of ending her 2 yr relationship. Therefore, she is STOPPING herself from acting on her desires. Sometimes, it gets to be too much for her.. maybe she thinks about the fun you've had, misses you, seeks you out by going where she knows you'll be. ENJOY it. DON'T push back. Let her "act like the whole space talk never happened" for the night... let he swim away a little after... stay where you are.. let her swim closer again. DON'T PUSH.
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I don't personally think you have much of a chance with her anymore (MAYBE if you CAN stop what you're doing and approach this differently!).. she asked for space, you keep breaking it (again, idgaf if SHE breaks her rules, YOU can't!).. her "friend" told you (loudly) and humiliated her. You stepped UP the creepy chasing. She's TORN right now.. hell, maybe even thinking staying with LD bf would be EASIER and SAFER than starting up with the not only almost stalker Gemini dude... Gemini dude still has this "You lied" attitude with her. Fuck that, who needs the misery? I know you feel duped - you are SOOO into this girl you're feeling everything in Technicolor x100. Get over it, let it go.. if only on the basis of she only knew you SUCH a short time and didn't want to talk about that private mess and make herself look like a slut to a guy she was really starting to like. If you can't let it go.. you'll have to let HER go. :c
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I just thought of something. I have a potty mouth and my posts are sprinkled with.. erm.. "colorful" language... if you're seeing a bunch of "treetrunk" and "butter" and "just like me" and "cookiemonster".. your profanity filter is on. The setting to switch the filter off is in your Settings. If you have delicate sensibilities and don't like people (esp women) swearing, don't change it. But don't complain when the words don't make sense 😛