It's been a long 3 days since I broke up with my Scorpio BF.......

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And I only did it because I felt like he was pushing me away as well as acting cavalier/cold when I expressed my concerns. He got to the point to where when I asked him when he thought he could make himself available to talk about the disconnect in our relationship, he would completely ignore my question, wait until the next morning and send me a message like, "Good morning Boo." I couldn't take it anymore, the missed phone calls, and then later on that night or the next day he would act like he didn't miss a call or didn't respond specifically to a text message. I cried for 10 hours straight after breaking up with him Sunday. I was so heartbroken as well as got tired of feeling like I was doing relationship work all on my own. He wouldn't have anything to say in phone calls, but would just sit there, but thing was...he would call. He would do the bare minimum without budging an inch to my requests to figure things out. I asked him when he wanted me to visit and I got, "Hmmm...let me see what's going on and I'll let you know". So, I stopped asking. Then he said he TRIED to surprise me and sent me a pic of him in front of my house a couple of Sunday's ago, but the thing is he never asked my son where I went and my son said that no one even knocked on the door. He was calling and texting me while I had my phone on airplane mode while at the movies. I went there with my phone battery less than 50% , he never said anything about coming to town that off day and my plan was to spend all day at the $ 2 movie complex hanging out by myself. It's kinda...my thing. When I was single that was one of my solitary "go to" activities. I love doing that! Well, when I finished the first movie, I turned the airplane mode off to find that he'd texted, called, sent me the pic of him in front of my house, and then told me to call him. I got the messages less than an hour after the last one. I called and he didn't answer and I suppose he had an attitude, but damn...you didn't tell me you were coming. Then he put no effort into asking my son where I was, but come to find out, in convo later on that night, he DID peep through my bedroom window. He was able to tell me what was on my bed. Weirdo. He got mad at me and left town without seeing me and THEN decided to call me about 45 minutes from his hotel room and treated me like crap on the phone. Come to find out his homeboy was in the car listening to our entire phone convo via speaker phone. I was so pissed. But, what did I do? Told him how I felt and then just kept on in the relationship. smh Then he became VERY condescending. It got so bad that week that in response to reminding him that it takes less than 3 seconds to tell someone that you love them, he sent me this message, "I love you Boo Boo, you're so right." Just making light of it all. The next day, I made one more attempt to ask him when I would get to see him again with no response to that text message. And....that's when I broke up
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I honestly wasn't expecting a response anyways. I even told him that in the break up voicemail and told him that he didn't NEED to respond. The crazy part is that he texted me the next morning responding to my request to see him and I texted him back with, "check voicemail". Long story short, he went from disappointment, to telling me that he understood...that he was upset, but completely understood. Then when I texted him this message in response, I guess the situation got real for him.

"Play those games with someone else. You're not going to cause me to feel bad about walking away after I've tried so hard to figure our relationship out. At the beginning of this month, I made arrangements with co-workers to make it easier on the both of us. I had not one but TWO rides to get back home on my own on back to back weekends. You ignored my question on whether or not you wanted me to come down to see you. Then you just ignored my request to know how to support you, since you OBVIOUSLY didn't want what I had to offer. So, no...I'm not feeling bad. At all. Save that for someone who doesn't know that they offered up themselves and was turned away. Like I told you before, you're used to dealing with basic bitches. I know my worth. Apparently you don't. That's fine. You don't agree with me on what I'm worth in a relationship and you have that right. However, I don't agree with you. I don't accept your low level assessment of my womanhood. I'm good."

The shit hit the fan. He kinda was all over the place going from telling me that it was his fault to telling me that he understood, but was angry and he was sorry for whatever he did, but he understood why I broke up with him, but he was disappointed. The final line that pissed me off...him telling me that he still needed me. I immediately stopped communicating with him. Then he sent me a message to get my attention and I still didn't respond. Then after he got home from work, he sent me a message of disbelief. Solid disbelief. Without going into detail, basically somehow it seems like something in him snapped. That wasn't even my goal. I seriously left his ass. I'd thought about it long and hard all week after he showed his ass in front of his "homeboy" on speaker phone. Then the knowledge that he didn't even check his voicemail when I TOLD him that I was leaving him a message made it even worse. I don't know what kind of humble pie he ate, but after I went into another relationship assessment tirade, he finally got the picture that I really was fed up and he started begging. After two hours of text messaging back and forth he finally begged to see me and I told him basically not to count on it. I told him that I was only being honest and didn't want to lead him on into thinking that just because he finally spilled his friggin guts and started making sense that I was just going to readily reconsider my stance. Well, after sleeping on it, I did decide to take that trip.
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On ONE condition...that he pay for it. My train leaves tomorrow afternoon and now I'm laying here trying to figure out what I really expect from him. It's really sad that instead of being excited to see him, I'm literally laying in the bed trying to figure out whether or not I even WANT to give him another chance. Part of me does based on what we built over the first 4 months, but the other part of me...is kind of disgusted that someone who I've spent over...let me calculate this crap...I've spent roughly over 500 hours with could easily respond by taking me for granted...oh...no. I just hope...like really really hope that he has a plan for what he wants to say and do. I told my cousin and I hope I'm not re-arranging my work schedule and making this trip for a "Netflix and chill" moment. We've never had those and I just hope that he doesn't think that seeing him is going to be enough for me. I need to know that IF we get back together...huge IF, that our long distance relationship will be different. Hell, I KNOW It's not easy. I get it, but that's just it, he has to see that it's worth it and make the effort instead of leaving it completely to me to be emotive and give him attention while he just sucks that shit up through a straw thinking that I'm always going to be there for him. In order for me to thinking about being with him again, I have to be at least somewhat reassured that he's willing to appreciate me OPENLY. All of this keeping shit close to the vest is for the birds. He should have chosen to do that in the first place. Now that we're far apart, now he wants to clam up and allow whatever relationship insecurities push him towards saying shit to me like, "You already know what's up" when I point out that he could tell me he loves me when I express that to him...I already know what's up...hm...yep, I do know what's up. I'm not dealing with a guy who acts like a common street thug. He was NEVER like that when we were together. This man hardly even cusses and all of the sudden after almost 2 months of working around a bunch of hood rats he's texting me with this...bullshit. I swear, if we do end up getting back together, I'm going to wait until I'm around ALL of his work hommies and announce that this dude grew up as a fucking boy scout. He is NOT about that life.
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Posted by Nemilicious
"I honestly wasn't expecting a response anyways."


This ^^ is a big fat fucking lie and you know it!
Nem...that's how distanced he'd become. It's not a reflection of my inner worries, etc. He literally stopped responding to things that I would say to him. In the past 3 weeks, I've gotten his voicemail TOO many times without him returning the call or like last week one of those night, he put me on hold to take another call at 10pm and the call dropped. I texted him to let him know that the call dropped so that he wouldn't think that I hung up...he never called me back. We were barely on the phone for 5 minutes when the other call that interrupted ours came through and I was in the middle of trying to tell him about something that was REALLY important to me. The thing is...I didn't flip out on him or mention it in text the next day that he didn't call me back. I felt like...damn...do I really have to do that in order to get a response? Then he just kept telling me that "a lot was going on". So Saturday night...I FINALLY asked him over the phone during a brief call, "So, Babe, you mentioned in your text that a lot is going on...what's up?" His response, "Oh nothing."
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Posted by Nemilicious
you like misery, MsTeeq?
Absolutely not. It's that while I don't accept what he ended up giving me, I also know that with him responding so damn strongly...which I was NOT expecting...I need to look at him in the face and see what he has to say. I need to see his body language, etc. Now, if he were acting even REMOTELY like this wasn't a big deal to him...I wouldn't even bother communicating with him let alone go see him.
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This is the purpose of me seeing him face to face on my end

"What could I know, should I know, that I don’t know? Just what am I missing here?"

I'm not going in hopes that everything is going to be great and we'll end up in a loving embrace. blah blah blah...I don't even feel that within me. The first time he asked to see me, I told him that I preferred that he wait it out 2-3 weeks, see how he felt, then ask to see me if he felt like he still wanted to. He just kept asking and asking and asking.
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Posted by Nemilicious
"I honestly wasn't expecting a response anyways."


This ^^ is a big fat fucking lie and you know it!
Ah...I see what happened...the rest of my statement was cut off. I didn't text him the break up message. When he didn't respond to my text asking him when I was going to see him again, he didn't respond and I texted him with, "I know you're reading my text messages and just not responding, so I'll leave you a voicemail message with what I have to say." When I called, he didn't pick up...which is what I EXPECTED. I mean...he didn't even check his voicemail that day. He texted me the next morning saying, "Good morning Sweetheart. When do you want to see me?" That's when I texted back, "Check voicemail".

He'd turned my voicing relationship concerns into a game of cat and mouse for whatever reason. He'd never been that way before he left town for work. Not EVER. If he would have done it in person...there's no way I would have formed a relationship with him. The only reason why I kept dealing with it is because of the relationship foundation...we'd spent almost every single day together before. This wasn't like we were just hanging out or barely saw each other before. We spent HUGE amounts of time together and in the first month, there was only one day that we didn't see each other.
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Posted by wagtail
Well very best of luck darling, stay strong! I hope it works out for you and you find some clarity or closure or what ever you need x
I'm thinking it's a little of both. Honestly. I need to know why he would be so adamant about seeing me after acting this way for three WEEKS or I need to know why he would act like that after our relationship seemed so strong. If it makes sense and he can explain how he plans to not allow himself to go back into that mode...ok, maybe we can work through it, but anything outside of that will be closure. I don't play games when it comes to my heart. Hell no. Thank you for the well wishes.
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I really, really hope this is nothing like I went through.

I think its a pattern for Scorpio Sun, Leo moon. They WILL abandon you. For me, I figured out the problem eventually -there's fear that by tying himself to me, he won't be free to explore his potential as he wants. There seems to be a serious fear of stagnation.

I would advise not to see him as you planned. Chances are, he realizes he's wrong for abandoning you and starts to level accusations at you. He will probably question your free time, and use it as a way just to keep you desperately pained... because he is in pain as well.

If you could give him time, maybe he'll start coming back, sleeping on the couch and making breakfast and trying to fit back in your life again.

Just maybe.

Good luck, Msteeq.

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MsTeeq1974,

You said you broke up with him? I don't know why you are still looking for closure?

Scorpio hates being rush. We need time. We love long term relationship and wanted to get married.

We are in control. OMG. we really hate partners that don't give us space sometimes. You are rushing him really.

hahaha. It made me laughed when you asked him what's up and he said nothing 😆.
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I really, really hope this is nothing like I went through.

I think its a pattern for Scorpio Sun, Leo moon. They WILL abandon you. For me, I figured out the problem eventually -there's fear that by tying himself to me, he won't be free to explore his potential as he wants. There seems to be a serious fear of stagnation.

I would advise not to see him as you planned. Chances are, he realizes he's wrong for abandoning you and starts to level accusations at you. He will probably question your free time, and use it as a way just to keep you desperately pained... because he is in pain as well.

If you could give him time, maybe he'll start coming back, sleeping on the couch and making breakfast and trying to fit back in your life again.

Just maybe.

Good luck, Msteeq.
Weird...because I was actually coming back to add that the other thing is that he started accusing me of having a boyfriend other than him. Like, out of the blue. When I wasn't home when he came to town without even INDICATING that he might, he said that he left and went back to his hotel 3 hours away, because he thought I was out with my boyfriend. I asked him if he REALLY felt that way. He said that he was just kidding. Then the following day, he called me and said, "You're going to get another boyfriend aren't you?" I reassured him that definitely WASN'T my plan or a thought in the least. Then this past Saturday when he called me and I told him that I was way out from the house with only 20% battery...he said, "I bet your battery is low from talking with your man all day while you were out there." I asked him if he honestly felt that way and he was like, "Nah...I just be messing with you". If he would have answered the phone after I got home I would have let him know that my battery was so damn low while I was far out from the house, because I ended up video taping the wedding ceremony with my phone. That wasn't in my original plan. I was asked to do it with my phone AFTER I showed up.

Funny, because in the 2 hour convo, I zeroed in on the fact that loving for him equals pain. I mean...I KNEW that after he said he loved me the first time. It was how he said it, when he said, and how he looked at me when he said it. In the texting convo, I recalled to him the first time he said that he loved me and let him know that I already knew that there was a chance that one day he would get tired of the "pain" and forsake the love. I told him that I took a risk on him anyways and that's why one day, I very pointedly pointed out to him, "You can always trust love. Love will never fail you." I told him that remark wasn't as random as he probably thought it was at the time.

Thank you 037.
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Posted by M143
MsTeeq1974,

You said you broke up with him? I don't know why you are still looking for closure?

Scorpio hates being rush. We need time. We love long term relationship and wanted to get married.

We are in control. OMG. we really hate partners that don't give us space sometimes. You are rushing him really.

hahaha. It made me laughed when you asked him what's up and he said nothing 😆.
I also don't like being rushed so I understand that part. When he told me that he would let me know about the visits...I waited like...5 days before saying something like, "You know...I told you that I found two rides back from your place home for two different dates. I'm not going to ask you about visiting anymore. I'm going to wait for you to tell me when to come." His response was to try to surprise me. That was like...a day or two after I told him that I would wait. Now, when he decided to head back home...I said, "OK...see, now that I missed you, because I had no idea you were coming...how long do we have to wait to see each other". He said (mind you...he had someone in the car), "Damn, the way you're acting, it just might be tomorrow. Can you just chill?" At that point, I didn't know he had someone in the car with him.

Well, I advised him to wait 2-3 weeks before trying to see me this time. I said, "If I were a friend of yours witnessing all of this, I'd advise you to wait 2-3 before asking to see me, because then you'd get a clearer picture of how you REALLY feel about the situation". He just kept begging to see me.
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Posted by Arielle83
I think it's hard when they hold back with communication. It's like they'll answer or think about there answer but it's slow. Or they rehash days later.

It can be irritating but it's them. They also kinda hate responsibility sometimes.

Id just move on. Don't waste the energy.
Yep...this is exactly what I've experienced. I mean...I don't require answers from anyone on anything right away. What I require is that if for whatever reason you can't give me an answer...then be respectful enough to let me know how long I have to WAIT for an answer. That's the least you can do in respectful communication. This dude said that when he dropped me off after my visit to him at the end of last month that he was planning on coming back over to my house right after church. I pointed out to him that he never said that to me and how was I supposed to know what was going on in his head as he was talking on the phone with a guy friend and with a casual, "See ya later Babe". Um, no...get your ass off of the phone and give me a proper goodbye. That was the argument we had then. In Monday's text messages I told him that back then when he thought I was just trippin I tried to explain to him how I felt and he brushed me off then. Then I asked him in regards to that incident three weeks ago, "Do you think that made me feel like I mattered to you?" I pointed out to him how when he acts stupid, I have the difficult convo with him, but he still got kisses, he still got to walk away feeling valued, because I make sure that he felt that way. NOW all of the sudden he's like, "I'm speechless. You're so right. I wish I could contest that."
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Dude was blowing u off and your beating yourself up for for not accepting poor.treatment? Fuck that nicca I mean really.
Nooooooooooooo, I am not beating myself up. Oh hell no. I'm not sure if you read the second comment, but I actually made it very clear to him that I don't fee bad about breaking up with him. Extremely clear.
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Good because when the reciprocity in communication starts to get shady its time to dip ie. Text messages and calls

Nobody has time for the shady bullshit
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Posted by M143
MsTeeq,

The obvious part is that He loves you. He is suspicious. Most of us( scorpio) do that when in love. I called it obsession.

I don't know why we operate that way. I cannot explain as well.. maybe it's fears of losing the one we love.
"There's nothing to fear but fear itself." - FDR He might have to learn this the hard way. This is the thing...we all have challenges in love. I don't know one person who handles falling in love without a certain amount of uncertainty, fear, self doubt, concerns, etc. It's normal to resist the urge to fall deeply in love, knowing that there are no guarantees. The key is making the other person feel valued despite how you feel internally. I finally let him know that its not that I NEVER rejected him. I explained to him how I used the middle of night to go through my rejection phases while he was sleeping and snoring next to me. I told him, "When I feel some type a way about something you did, I wait until you're sleep, move to the edge of the bed and put as much distance between us as possible. Then I get it out of my system and go back to cuddling with you. I PROTECTED you from how I felt. I found a way to get the distance that I needed without impacting you."

THIS!!!
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Sometimes I would literally have half of my body hanging off of the bed and I would literally lay there on my stomach hanging half way off of the bed looking at him and analyzing how I felt. HE NEVER had to feel a single iota of that doubt or rejection in me. It's not that I never felt that way....shit. I handled it in a way that still honored his feelings and relationship effort.
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Posted by M143
MsTeeq,

I think you are just tired of him. Give him a chance. You are strong.. but I want to ask you personally.

Do you like to be right and alone?

Fear is real. It's not right but Scorpio understand how human being think. Nothing is constant.

I suggest you have to keep it light. Give a try .
I'm tired of him not taking me serious. He's already told me that he's never in his life had so much fun with a woman. I think the problem is that there are certain things that I did handle in a light manner that should have been handled more severely. See...I don't like arguing. I really don't, so I run out of steam and real quick. Eventually, I just fade to black. So, he's been getting his way...too often. I admit that. I've only started pushing for some answers to some serious questions in the past...maybe two weeks. When he lived 2 miles away, it was EASY to keep things light. Nothing had to be addressed right away and according to him time table of going back to the industry where he does this type of work, we had lots of time. He said that he wasn't going back to doing what he is now until March of 2016. Had he told me that there was even a SLIGHT chance that he would go back to it for more than a couple of months just to make his money for a bit and get back home....I would have told him to figure his shit out and we could have a more serious relationship later. Even the day before he left, he was supposed to be taking a job a little over an hour away and that job was only going to last for like...2 months. The job he has now was also offered, but when I left his house, he said he was taking the OTHER job. Do you know that I didn't find out that he took this job until his first visit home? I was like...huh. I let him know that he didn't tell me that he chose this one instead. He was like, "Oh wow...I'm so sorry that I didn't tell you. I thought I did, but this was a better offer." Then he starts telling me....like just before his surprise visit that he may be on this job for quite a bit longer than he thought. Ok, fine. But don't play me to the fucking left. At least that's how I FELT. Now, I feel like...Dude, you have to pull out some serious stops to get me to reconsider. If he's not willing...cool. We go our separate ways. I've been SUPER supportive. Like...OMG. It's too much to even go into. He's had my constant support from the fact that he went back to this sooner than he said he was, to the fact that he IS 3 hours away, etc. I've never hassled him for all of that. I've supported his decision.
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Posted by ScorpiosHarmony
Op you broke up with someone who already checked out of the relationship, why would you make the effort to see him. All your talk about self worth just went down the drain seeing as he now knows he can toy with you.

Seriously, make your mind up and stick to it.
Actually...THIS is exactly how I feel about it. I told him that I would come see him. That doesn't mean shit with how I feel. If he has his hopes up that I'm going to see him and instantly change my mind or that I'm coming and will fall apart when I get there...nope. I'm literally getting there around 7pm and coming back before 7am. He begged me and is paying for it. I'll go...but it's less than a 12 hour visit and he has to get up at 4am for work. I actually think it will be good for both of us. I can look him in the face and get closure and he can see that I'm not playing games with him. I agree...he checked out and I just made it official. I actually did contemplate spending my OWN money to take the train down just to break up with him and decided against it. At least this way...he's paying for it, not me.
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Posted by Vixen2
In my opinion, I think you stood your ground. And there lies the silent issue...

There has most likely been something on his mind for awhile that had him actin distant in the beginning &he was keeping it to himself or had not figured out how or if it was worth dealing with.

The whole suprise visit debacle pushed all his hidden insecurities out and his feeling of lack of control:

where are you? why isn't she home thinking about me? who is she with? I bet she's with another man...triggered insecurity and jealousy, that's why he looked in your bedroom

You've forced his hand.

If you love him and you think the relationship is worth it, then talking to him face to face is necessary.

Good luck♡♡
You sound like my cousin. When I told her that I have high expectations of what he plans to do and say...she actually told me that I might want to lower them. Ummm...no.

Hmm....he just texted me and is up a whole hour before he has to get up for work. Good. I hope he has a tight ass game plan.
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Posted by Vixen2
In my opinion, I think you stood your ground. And there lies the silent issue...

There has most likely been something on his mind for awhile that had him actin distant in the beginning &he was keeping it to himself or had not figured out how or if it was worth dealing with.

The whole suprise visit debacle pushed all his hidden insecurities out and his feeling of lack of control:

where are you? why isn't she home thinking about me? who is she with? I bet she's with another man...triggered insecurity and jealousy, that's why he looked in your bedroom

You've forced his hand.

If you love him and you think the relationship is worth it, then talking to him face to face is necessary.

Good luck♡♡
And Thank you Vixen. The reason why there seems to be no love pouring out in my comments is because he KNOWS that there was never a question of my love. I never withheld the love from him even when I got upset. I even told him during that second week that he was pulling away, "Even a boiling kettle runs out of steam. Eventually you have to take the kettle off of the burner or it'll become ruined." He sent me a surprise face emoji and said, "I feel you. I feel so bad now. Goodnight" I said, "Good night". He sent me a worried face emoji, then he called me, but he didn't have anything to say. He just called...so we sat there and then started joking around a little. That night he didn't want to get off of the phone so I told him to stay on the phone, shut his eyes, and I would wait until he started snoring to hang up. I did just that. I've been so empathetic and trying to understand what he's been going through. I've never acted like this hasn't been hard for both of us and he's already gotten my love in SPADES. Thanks again Hun.
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In my opinion, I think you stood your ground. And there lies the silent issue...

There has most likely been something on his mind for awhile that had him actin distant in the beginning &he was keeping it to himself or had not figured out how or if it was worth dealing with.

The whole suprise visit debacle pushed all his hidden insecurities out and his feeling of lack of control:

where are you? why isn't she home thinking about me? who is she with? I bet she's with another man...triggered insecurity and jealousy, that's why he looked in your bedroom

You've forced his hand.

If you love him and you think the relationship is worth it, then talking to him face to face is necessary.

Good luck♡♡
I hope I didn't come off as sounding like standing your ground is a bad thing, on the contrary!
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You came off just fine. I agree with what you're saying as far as the whole insecurity thing. But then that loops back to everyone's coping mechanism. Be insecure, but don't be a COMPLETE dick about it. I only mentioned my cousin's statement about lowering my expectations, because this is the thing...I can believe that the relationship that we initially built is worth it all day long, but he's the one who has to see it as being worth it as well. I'm not traveling to convince him at this point. I'm done trying to convince him of ANYTHING. He said that he needed to see me ASAP for whatever reason. Maybe he has plans to try to convince me that the relationship is worth it. Who knows, but that would be his best bet. Right now, we're still broken up. I just hope that he doesn't do or say anything that reminds me of that or why we broke up. In order for me to even consider continuing, he'd have to remind me of why we got together in the first place, of the fact that he used to be the kind of man who deserves me, and he'd have to do something to demonstrate...not just tell me what he plans to do in the future. I'm not sure if he's prepared to do any of this and at this point my only plan is to show up. I'm not sitting here trying to figure out what I'm going to say to him...none of that. Hell, I barely have clothes set out to go. I'm not even trying to get like...super cute for this visit. Most women would try to dress in a way to remind a man of what he's been missing, etc. Nope. Now, I'm not going out there looking like a bum, but I don't go anywhere looking like a bum. He's demanded that I take/accept/love/be attentive to him just like he is. It's time that he figure out if he can do the same. If not...it's all good.
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Some Scorpio posters just read topics and when they see a Scorpio brethren is being accused of anything...they will immediately jump to the rescue.

Not even bothering to see what that specific Scorpio did or if the bashing is warranted...just blindly jumping to attack.

Other signs care for their own and would back their own too but Scorpios take it to a whole different level.



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"he sent me this message, "I love you Boo Boo, you're so right." Just making light of it all."

Are you sure he was making light of it? Teeq, I have observed that Pisces can have a tendency to see the least complimentary side of conversations. Almost as if expecting the other person to be either sarcastic or disingenuous first and ask questions later. Could this possibly be the case? Just asking.

I'm having a hard time following your timeline as well. Did all of this happen over a week or so or was this an on-going thing over months? Can't quite grasp if what I'm reading is knee jerk reacting--which is fine, let those emotions fly when you feel them. Or built up over time--which could mean you have been holding onto repressed anger in the name of avoiding conflict. Just wondering.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE CASE IN YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, but I can tell you that Scorpio men and woman, when asked a question of a serious matter, will retreat to think about it. A good Scorpio will not want to give a false impression and will really examine their thoughts and emotions before answering. This feels like ignoring to the other person until the Scorp comes back with what they honestly and truly think. In a very blunt manner.

Most scorpios will out right tell you: I will get back to you or let me think about that. If they just disappear--its either because they are completely confused--which really isn't a good thing OR there is a lack of respect--again not a good thing. Was there any indication that your scorpio would get back to you with an answer or to resume the conversation at any time? Definitely look for that.

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Posted by MsTeeq1974

if we do end up getting back together, I'm going to wait until I'm around ALL of his work hommies and announce that this dude grew up as a fucking boy scout. He is NOT about that life.



Only basic bitches make spectacles out of themselves over their petty jealousy.


You could always beat him up like you proclaim you do with your children when they aren't abiding by your demands.
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Posted by BonesMalone
The good news in all of this is that everything will be ok & it does get better. Not as quickly as we want it to but it happens. ((HUGS))
Forgive me for giving a generic answer but I always find it to be true. Do keep us posted on what happens after your quick visit.
Thank you. Your response is just fine Dear. I appreciate the encouragement!
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Posted by Reincarnation
Lack of sexual attraction will typically be met with a "fade away."

If you think it's something else, you're delusional.
It very well could be. I'm not refuting any input, because whatever it is...it's fine with me or I wouldn't have broken up with him in the first place. Again, I'm only going because he begged me to and I didn't want to go through the whole thing of him continuing to contact me to try to break through or whatever. If we're going to be done...we need to be DONE. None of this push pull BS and I was NOT going to allow it to get to the point where he stopped responding or reaching out period. What he did was good/bad enough for me.
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When I had broken up with my Scorpio, it was right before we had planned to spend the weekend together. We decided to still have that one last weekend as a couple and then that would be that. In the end, it hurt him a lot to see me again, obviously. He also spent that time crying and trying to guilt me in to getting back together with him. Talking about how he needs me and will never find someone else like me. He was in another relationship a month later. Obviously he was saying those things in a last ditch effort and didn't mean half of it. If I wasn't intent on breaking up with him, I might have been pulled back in with those words and went through the same shit all over again. looking back at it, that last visit was better off not happening. We had technically already broken up and there was nothing left to be said. And the only things that he said anyway Involved begging and saying nice things that he didn't mean to try to win me back. His words also did have some affect on me so I wrongly felt angry and shocked when he moved on in a month as if I meant nothing to him. If I didn't meet up with him, buy of us would have likely been less hurt by the break up.

But, you know what's best for you. So good luck. I just figured I'd share my experience with a similar situation. Closure is nice to have and I hope that's what you find. You deserve someone who doesn't make you question things throughout the entire relationship.
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Posted by BrightLight
"he sent me this message, "I love you Boo Boo, you're so right." Just making light of it all."

Are you sure he was making light of it? Teeq, I have observed that Pisces can have a tendency to see the least complimentary side of conversations. Almost as if expecting the other person to be either sarcastic or disingenuous first and ask questions later. Could this possibly be the case? Just asking.

I'm having a hard time following your timeline as well. Did all of this happen over a week or so or was this an on-going thing over months? Can't quite grasp if what I'm reading is knee jerk reacting--which is fine, let those emotions fly when you feel them. Or built up over time--which could mean you have been holding onto repressed anger in the name of avoiding conflict. Just wondering.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE CASE IN YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, but I can tell you that Scorpio men and woman, when asked a question of a serious matter, will retreat to think about it. A good Scorpio will not want to give a false impression and will really examine their thoughts and emotions before answering. This feels like ignoring to the other person until the Scorp comes back with what they honestly and truly think. In a very blunt manner.

Most scorpios will out right tell you: I will get back to you or let me think about that. If they just disappear--its either because they are completely confused--which really isn't a good thing OR there is a lack of respect--again not a good thing. Was there any indication that your scorpio would get back to you with an answer or to resume the conversation at any time? Definitely look for that.
It was over a period of three weeks and in the first week, I noted it, but didn't really say anything about it. I just asked him if he was ok without mentioning that it felt like he was disconnecting. The second week was when I subtly let him know that I knew something was different. This is when he tried to surprise me. So, it wasn't like he was completely unresponsive, but there would be certain things like...waiting all day to respond to my text message and when he did...it was just...dry as hell. Then the second week it was that he would text, but not call. I tried to call him...maybe twice in that week and he didn't answer any of the calls, but would text me maybe....an hour or two after I called and even then, he was like...ok, I'm going to bed. It was at the end of that week that he called me without any prompts and didn't want to get off of the phone. But in all of this time, during these two weeks, he wouldn't answer the question on when he wanted me to come visit him. So I fell back on even trying to plan anything.
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So then he pops up trying to surprise me...so he claims....without telling me anything or indicating that he was coming to town...then all of the stuff with how he wouldn't call me back after he couldn't get a hold of me via text and phone call, looking into my bedroom window, etc. But in that phone call, he was rude, disrespectful, condescending, and was doing all of this in front of mixed company, which I didn't even find out until I heard a male voice in the background about....30 minutes into the conversation. I told him, "Next time could you tell me that someone is listening to our conversation? I don't like voicing concerns about our relationship or any concerns I have about you in front of anyone. That's none of their business." He said, "Yep...he's been listening to you the whole time." and he kinda chuckled and said, "I'm about to walk into my room and I'll call you right back." I was fuming. I was just like..."Ok, well, I guess I'll let you get off of the phone since you have someone in the car and you're about to walk into your hotel room". His voice dropped and all of the sudden he sounded sad and was like, "That doesn't even sound right". I just said, "Talk to you later" and hung up. When he called me back I was crying and he asked why and I told him that I didn't appreciate how he handled me in the phone call, especially in front of someone else and that it made me feel like I don't matter. He was like, "You shouldn't feel that way. You matter." I didn't have anything else to say and we got off of the phone. That's when breaking up with him became an option for me. The next day, this is now week three....that's when he called and said, "You're going to get another boyfriend, aren't you?" That's when I tried to reassure him that another man was the last thing on my mind or what I was thinking.

The whole "I love you Boo Boo" thing was flippant. I know him and he does that shit, but this was only NOT the right time for him to act like we're cool, but the thing is....we just, weren't cool. I wanted to talk about it and figure out what we were going to do or what we should do. He didn't want to talk about it and instead kept pulling away and trying to convince himself that I had another man or wanted another man. I'm not going through that. If a man wants to convince himself that I want someone else, I'm not going to be a part of it. I'll be very upfront about the fact that I don't, but if I'm saying it as well as demonstrating it and he still doesn't believe me....there's a bigger issue involved. I wanted to know what the bigger issue was and he didn't want to talk about it.
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ently, you have all of the people in here believing your bullshit, because they are agreeing with you.

here's the reality .....

Posted by MsTeeq1974

Now that we're far apart, now he wants to clam up and allow whatever relationship insecurities push him towards saying shit to me like, "You already know what's up" when I point out that he could tell me he loves me when I express that to him...


You have an expectation on him to tell you what you want to hear, because you said it first, so you expect him to say it back. The above sentence translate to: when he's says you know what's up - hes referring to you have these expectations on him.

He's being condenscending to you for a reason ... it's because you want to control him in being a certain way, in which you won't do yourself.

You get mad when he ignores you, so you respond to that with ignorance on your part.



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I asked him when he thought he could make himself available to talk
He would do the bare minimum without budging an inch to my requests
I suppose he had an attitude, but damn...

Then he became VERY condescending. It got so bad that week that in response to reminding him that it takes less than 3 seconds to tell someone that you love them

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Above is you trying to control his every move with you .... you even lay guilt trips on him when he doesn't tell you he loves you.


Seriously, what a fucking basic bitch, in where you have to intimidate a guy into being sincere with you.

And I have no clue why every poster in here is over looking how controlling you are being with this.

Nearly every sentence you write is talking about what you want, and I've read nothing in regards to how you feel for him, while expecting him to smother you with how he feels about you.

There's no description of your feelings for him ..... yet, that's what you are expecting from him in return.


He's probably not used to dealing with basic bitches like you ... he's probably only used to dealing with mature ladies, and so just doesn't know how to respond to all of your hypocrisy.
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When I had broken up with my Scorpio, it was right before we had planned to spend the weekend together. We decided to still have that one last weekend as a couple and then that would be that. In the end, it hurt him a lot to see me again, obviously. He also spent that time crying and trying to guilt me in to getting back together with him. Talking about how he needs me and will never find someone else like me. He was in another relationship a month later. Obviously he was saying those things in a last ditch effort and didn't mean half of it. If I wasn't intent on breaking up with him, I might have been pulled back in with those words and went through the same shit all over again. looking back at it, that last visit was better off not happening. We had technically already broken up and there was nothing left to be said. And the only things that he said anyway Involved begging and saying nice things that he didn't mean to try to win me back. His words also did have some affect on me so I wrongly felt angry and shocked when he moved on in a month as if I meant nothing to him. If I didn't meet up with him, buy of us would have likely been less hurt by the break up.

But, you know what's best for you. So good luck. I just figured I'd share my experience with a similar situation. Closure is nice to have and I hope that's what you find. You deserve someone who doesn't make you question things throughout the entire relationship.
Exactly. I actually don't even have plans on having sex with him. That is the furthest thing from my mind and if he thinks that's what's about to happen...that's on him. Yes, I have a high libido, but I'm also very disciplined when serious matters are at hand. I realize that any physical intimacy would cloud the REAL issue. If he can't sit down and talk to me face to face from one mature person to another about what's really going on...I don't need or want to hear anything else. I don't need him to boost my ego. My self esteem is fine. Hell, I had some random dude from 2 years ago try to get a hold of me a few days ago. I didn't answer the call and I didn't return the call either. The friggin Cap still won't take no for an answer. Now, I don't NEED these other guys showing interest for me to have an ego boost. I'm just saying...I know what I bring to the table in romantic situations and one thing I don't lack is male attention...not ever. See, this is only my like...4th serious relationship where I considered anything long term like marriage or something permanent like that. I don't usually get involved and make myself available so that there aren't any misconceptions about my receptiveness to what a man has to offer. The crazy thing and this is what I have to figure out within myself...is that all 4 guys express the same EXACT thing..."I can't believe she actually left me." And I'm just lookin
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OMG...I haven't written in depth about how I feel for him because....THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. Jesus friggin Christ. You're pretty dense for someone who attempts to use logic to solve every single problem. He KNOWS how I feel about him...if you note, he's not telling me that he feels like I don't care about him or love him. I never said that I don't love him and in fact, I believe in two posts I made it clear that I love him. I don't expect for him to say I love you back every single time I say it. The reason why I mentioned it to him is because he hadn't said it in the WHOLE THREE DAMN WEEKS. He also hasn't said that he misses me. That's fine, but it wouldn't be an issue if he were talking. At least tell me about your day, what's going on with your kids, what are you doing in your spare time...nothing. Zip. Silence. That's more of an issue then him not saying he loves me back. You don't even have the entire context of our convos. But this is classic P-Angel...I don't even know why I'm bothering.

Sheesh...you really know how to get under people's skin. I think that's your only goal in responding to these things.
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And further more...anyone who gets into a relationship and doesn't set expectations of SOME sort are setting themselves up for failure. I believe in managing expectations, but I DO NOT believe in not setting them. There has to be relationship and relational standards or there's no clear path to communication and other important relationship success. All of this BS about no titles, no expectations, no feeling, etc...that's just bullcrap and THAT'S what leads to things getting to the point that people disappear on the other without saying anything. There's no reason to say anything or give someone the basic level of respect when they don't expect you to or don't have defined space in your life or a role to know that if they exit...they're leaving an position in your life for someone else to fulfill.

Who has a relationship with someone without ANY expectations? Folks...please don't do that to yourselves. That is what leaves room for people who don't want expectations put on them to disrespect others. Seriously. It's crazy how we're allowed (by societal standards) to set expectations in every other area in our lives, but our romantic relationships. smh Just nuts. I don't know what this world is coming to.
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Posted by MsTeeq1974

I believe in managing expectations, but I DO NOT believe in not setting them.


Posted by MsTeeq1974

I asked him when he thought he could make himself available to talk
without budging an inch to my requests to
Then he put no effort into asking my son where I was
reminding him that it takes less than 3 seconds to tell someone that you love them

I even told him that in the break up voicemail and told him that he didn't NEED to respond.
Then when I texted him this message in response, I guess the situation got real for him.

"Play those games with someone else. You're not going to cause me to feel bad about walking away after I've tried so hard to figure our relationship out.

Like I told you before, you're used to

Apparently you don't.

You don't agree with me on

what I really expect from him.

...is kind of disgusted that someone who I've spent over 500 hours with could easily respond by taking me for granted
hope that he has a plan for what he wants to say and do.
I just hope that he doesn't think that seeing him is going to be enough for me.

he has to see that it's worth it and make the effort
I have to be at least somewhat reassured that he's willing to appreciate me OPENLY.
He should have chosen to do that in the first place.
I point out that he could tell me he loves me when I express that to him

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When in reality, all of the above, which is the form of direction you've used throughout this thread is either expecting him to do/say something specific, or how you guilt trip him when he isn't living up to your irrational demands on him.
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Posted by MsTeeq1974
Sometimes I would literally have half of my body hanging off of the bed and I would literally lay there on my stomach hanging half way off of the bed looking at him and analyzing how I felt. HE NEVER had to feel a single iota of that doubt or rejection in me. It's not that I never felt that way....shit. I handled it in a way that still honored his feelings and relationship effort.
Wow this is so sad... The pain of a Pisces.
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Like you know anything about it.
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Posted by MsTeeq1974

I would literally have half of my body hanging off of the bed and I would literally lay there on my stomach hanging half way off of the bed looking at him and analyzing how I felt.

HE NEVER had to feel a single iota of that doubt or rejection in me.





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Quite the opposite. Exploring feelings of doubt, but it's not like you would know anything about either one. Funny how people mock the very things that they only wish they were in a position to experience. Weird how you and other women are so on top of ridiculing other women regarding relationships, but...you never post about any relationships you've had or hope to have. At least I'm living...even if I WAS like the woman above. At least I'm doing something besides sitting on a web forum waiting to pounce on people with toxic energy for even attempting to love. No shame here. As much as you might try...living my life like it's golden, because it is. Regardless of this situation. You should try it.
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