my Pisces friend

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Hello people...

I know Pisces can just change and turn their feelings off... but this Pisces guy I like hasn't done a full cut off, we were intimately involved, now he wants to just be friends... So we're doing the friend thing...
We'll be having a great time together, he'll say things all cute and suggests things we should do together... and it all flows along really nicely... then all of a sudden he seems to get scared and says he has to go...
Then he always apologises for his strangeness around me... puts it down to not having any direction in his life...

Is it possible for Pisces men to turn a full blown attraction into a friendship?
Is it possible that he still fancies me?

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Pisces will wander away like that ... I do it all the time.



Usually, for me, it means you no longer have my immediate attention, boredom ..... and I'll drift off to something of interest. Keep in mind that something of interest could entail a cloud whisping by, or just sitting on the curb watching people walk down the street.


He's not scard ..... emotions, or the potential of feelings getting stronger, isn't something we are scard of. You're a Cancer? Yeah, you cannot process the Piscean emotions as you would for yourself, who being a Cancer you get scard of feelings. He's a Pisces, he's not going to get scard of how he feels ....

.. about anything ..




He's bored ..... you are losing his interest at the moment.
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Hey P-Angel...

I get that Pisces get bored... My best friend is a Pisces...

The thing is, he told me he is scared of getting hurt...
And wanted to take things slowly... However, now he just wants to be friends...
But when it suits him he'll say things to make me feel good and show he cares, not in just a friend way...

Yes, I'm a Cancer... I'm not fond of Cancers...ha ha... too emotional and clingy :o)~

It's him who initiates most of the contact and wants to do things with me...
Then he suddenly puts a wall up and takes off... goes quiet, then comes back to me again...
It's like he thinks too much... is that a Pisces trait?!

I should say he's on the cusp of Aquarius... not sure if that makes a difference...
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He's not scard, not like you think it to be. He's telling you that because that is the only way you can comprehend the Piscean struggle between the real/surreal. If he is feeling afraid of something, it's trying to discern between those two, and how it is he is suppose to relate to another (you), since those two are so fused together that definition of how to express these feelings are so vague that any revelation would appear so obscure to your senses that you would run away ......... worried that we are far too strange of creatures to attempt to comprehend.


Instead of explaining that ^^^^^^^ to you, he would tell you he's afraid of getting hurt because that is what you are able to comprehend. Trust me, Pisces aren't afraid of other people hurting our feelings ..... in reality, compared to the world we live in and how intense those feelings are on the two different planes of extreme feelings, there really isn't anything you could say or do that could even scratch the surface.


Our pained struggles are exclusively internal .... everybody else are just like miniscule gnats, barely glazing the surface.


He's not scard of getting his feelings hurt by you or anybody else ..... he may not like other people treating him like shit, or using him, or trying to control him, or trying to fuck him over .... but, he won't be hurt by it.


He can most definitely, and is on a continual basis ..... getting hurt by his own mis-judgements as his two realities constantly morph into new realities, that is never ending, even in sleep. I can't explain so you can understand ... you just have to trust that you cannot hurt his feelings, and that he is merely telling you that because that is what you can understand.

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It sounds to me though, since he is coming back and trying to express to you that he is a strange one .... that he wants to try and let you in.


It's not easy, and we usually never fully accomplish having a person understand our true natures ... it's possible that Bijou is the only non-Pisces to be able to grasp us. He must be trying though.


I would suggest you just listen when he tells you something, and not make definition of it from your own senses or interpretation because it will be a wrong one, because you will be making meaning according to a non-Pisces understanding of it. Just listen when he is trying to tell you something profound and don't make a conclusive understanding of what he is telling you.


If you do that .... he will begin to realize that you might sit long, so he can get it out, without any periods, because there aren't any to place.
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Thanks for that great explanation!!
I appreciate it...

I guess you're right in that I try to analyze things he does and says... when I should just let it happen with no explanation...
My Pisces best friend always says Pisces are complex creatures...

So with everything he does, he's trying to let me in?!
It makes sense as he doesn't say much about himself, his feelings anyway...
But he'll say something here and there.... and it is usually is quite profound...
He tells me things that he's never even told his long term girlfriends...

So when he goes quiet, I leave him be... and then he seems to find some stability and comes back...
Like he lives in his own cave, dreaming away... then all of a sudden has some other perspective...
We both might say something silly... but he always seems to forget about it, get over it...like it never happened...

He is a strange creature...
He had really intense feeling for me, so much so he cried when I left after my first visit with him...
Then now I've moved closer to him, it's like I've stepped into his dreamland and he's put up this barrier...
Let's it down every now and then...


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I'm gonna back P on this one. Pisces are absolutely NOT afraid of getting hurt. I know this true for myself and every other pisces that I've ever known... and trust me, many of us pisces get hurt ALOT...lol. I was once burned pretty badly once by an ex from a long time relationship. I was hurting over him so bad and still holding on when along came a gemini who swept me off my feet and became a year-long relationship. When we pisces get hurt, we may cry or bitch and moan a bit about being hurt and never wanting to love again, blah blah blah but that only lasts until the next person comes along that captures our interest. Then it's game on!



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Posted by Pesca75
I'm gonna back P on this one. Pisces are absolutely NOT afraid of getting hurt. I know this true for myself and every other pisces that I've ever known... and trust me, many of us pisces get hurt ALOT...lol. I was once burned pretty badly once by an ex from a long time relationship. I was hurting over him so bad and still holding on when along came a gemini who swept me off my feet and became a year-long relationship. When we pisces get hurt, we may cry or bitch and moan a bit about being hurt and never wanting to love again, blah blah blah but that only lasts until the next person comes along that captures our interest. Then it's game on!




he hee...
I kind of got that a bit... if I think about it, he moaned about how his previous girlfriend stole money from him so he is finding it hard to trust... but he had no issue with leaving me alone in his home for half a day after only knowing each other for a short amount of time...

I kind of figured that what Pisces say can change quite quickly... yes?!

My Pisces best friend tells me that when she's not interested in someone that's it... all ties are cut...
So what's with this guy holding on to me?!
He saw my workcar in my driveway the other night and took off without even saying hello, assumed I had a man over...
Why does it have to be a man?
Do Pisces get jealous?!


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he hee...
I kind of got that a bit... if I think about it, he moaned about how his previous girlfriend stole money from him so he is finding it hard to trust... but he had no issue with leaving me alone in his home for half a day after only knowing each other for a short amount of time...

I kind of figured that what Pisces say can change quite quickly... yes?!

My Pisces best friend tells me that when she's not interested in someone that's it... all ties are cut...
So what's with this guy holding on to me?!
He saw my workcar in my driveway the other night and took off without even saying hello, assumed I had a man over...
Why does it have to be a man?
Do Pisces get jealous?!




DO PISCES GET JEALOUS?? *roaring with laughter*
umm, yes!

Your best friend is right. I do the same thing. If I am absolutely D.O.N.E. with someone, all ties are cut and depending on why I am done with them, I may or may not come back.

When I am in and out of someone's life like your guy is with you, it is because I'm feeling lukewarm about them. I will think the person is nice, I enjoy being around them, moderately attracted to them but I don't feel the sparks with them. Either a) I'm sticking around to give the person a chance and hope stronger feelings will develop on my part OR b) there is someone else I prefer that I have a crush on and until that comes to fruition or if things don't happen with that crush, then you become my go-to person.

Yeah I know that's messed up. As I matured, I've actively tried not to be in the latter situation or lead someone on and I try to be fair.

In regards to love, my feelings can change lightening quick but once I am in love, my feelings are on lockdown unless that person mistreats me.




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Never before in my life have I ever met a Pisces who gets jealous.




lol...you're kidding, right?
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My Pisces friend gets insanely jealous...
I know a few others that have expressed jealousy too...

Thanks Pesca75...

I could understand that he's lukewarm about me... sure... I could understand that to be boredom etc...
But could it be to do with his past?

When something happens I'm his first call... he has no friends... And I feel quite protective of him actually (how Caner of me...though this is the first guy I've felt that way with), he's a lovely guy who seems to overthink everything... told me he pushes people away...
He does confide in me a lot, he told me his last girlfriend hit him a few times... yet he stayed with her for 3 years?! ... though for 2 years they lived 3 hours apart...

Do Pisces like their space? To be alone?
Coz he seems to like the distance thing...



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Never before in my life have I ever met a Pisces who gets jealous.




Nor have I, actually. Unless they were maybe 14 years old (physically or mentally) or a really immature drama queen looking for attention, though I can't think of even one. I'm an almost by the book Pisces... but ZERO jealousy. I don't know ANY jealous Pisces, though they tend to understand and tolerate this trait in others, unless it's over the top insane jealousy.

*thinking hard* No, no jealous Pisces. You can't even GOAD us into jealousy. We'll stare blankly at you, be shocked or amused, or just SWIM AWAY because you're just much too much with that trying to make us jealous bullshit. And even if we ever DO feel a twinge of jealousy, chances are we won't show it. We'll stay aloof and self-contained and work it out for ourselves. IF we even recognize the emotion as jealousy in the first place. LOL
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Never before in my life have I ever met a Pisces who gets jealous.




Nor have I, actually. Unless they were maybe 14 years old (physically or mentally) or a really immature drama queen looking for attention, though I can't think of even one. I'm an almost by the book Pisces... but ZERO jealousy. I don't know ANY jealous Pisces, though they tend to understand and tolerate this trait in others, unless it's over the top insane jealousy.

*thinking hard* No, no jealous Pisces. You can't even GOAD us into jealousy. We'll stare blankly at you, be shocked or amused, or just SWIM AWAY because you're just much too much with that trying to make us jealous bullshit. And even if we ever DO feel a twinge of jealousy, chances are we won't show it. We'll stay aloof and self-contained and work it out for ourselves. IF we even recognize the emotion as jealousy in the first place. LOL
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Yep ... like that ^^^^^


When I said that .. I was talking about adults. Teenagers, or even in the early 20's if not matured aren't put into the adult category.


A grown-up, matured Piscean ... is not jealous, quite the opposite, as you've described.

It would be an insult to show even a glimmer of jealousy ... because then it would indicate that the other person is being credited for this behaviour. Nope !!!!! Never !!!!!!


Would rather die .. and that goes for every ADULT Piscean I know.
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Ahhh, Pisces.

Yes, we have many acquaintances, but very few close friends. Pisces are pretty crazy (LOL), and their mysterious depths that first draw people in.. eventually confuse them and friendships don't usually survive the test of time.

Pisces change a lot, swim back and forth, moods shifting. He might be bored, yes - but it wouldn't take much to get his interest again. We float in and out, back and forth, letting our whims and feelings guide us. Sometimes it's personal, but not usually if he's still swimming BACK to you. Our past *shapes* us, but it does not, and will NEVER, dictate what we do. We do not live in the past. We live in the here and now, and look to the future. (NO, we are not afraid of getting hurt - we KNOW we will eventually be hurt, but we dive in headfirst anyway. That is our Pisces intensity and fearlessness that scares a lot of other signs. Ever wondered why it takes a Pisces SO LONG to "learn their lesson"? It's because we don't let the past dictate our future, each time is new and different!) We're more afraid of hurting others than we are of getting hurt ourselves!

Yes, we over think. We over analyze. Our struggles are ALWAYS internal. We're self-perfectionists and HATE HATE HATE to be wrong. Yes, we stay in bad relationships sometimes. We don't fear being alone, but we are overly accommodating of others' flaws. We will justify bad behavior out of love and compassion - until we simply cannot do so any longer. Then we swim away, chalk it up to a life experience, and move on. And we won't be as hurt as the other thinks we should be, so we get called "cold fish" when we're anything BUT!

YES, we like our space, solitude, to be alone sometimes. If we deny ourselves this, because we're trying so hard at love and togetherness, we will smother ourselves and the results will be catastrophic! We have "downstream" phases, and we're moody. But a Pisces will always bounce back, you'll see. Wait patiently, give them the space they need, and they will swim back happily.
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I agree with everything Nefer has said above.

Re: jealousy....Maybe I should've been more specific. ALL the pisces I know feel jealousy and yeah most of the time we won't show it or we'll think we're hiding it well (perhaps not well enough?). I mean, come on, jealousy is human nature. It's just the degree to which one feels it that differs. I too believe that jealousy is dictated by how insecure and immature a person is but even the most mature and self-assured of people will still feel jealousy, they just know how to keep it in check. And for those who say pisces do not get jealous at all, that is bs. Supposedly geminis don't get jealous at all either but I am surrounded by geminis and I know darn well they get jealous too at times.

Examples... my pisces roommate had a capricorn boyfriend who all the girls around here are attracted to, and everytime they went to a party, the girls would flock to him like bees to honey. She didn't show her jealousy to him about it, but she was definitely disturbed about this and would come home and confide in me about it every time it happened. Another pisces I know wouldn't allow her boyfriend to go to strip clubs because she didn't like the idea of him looking at beautiful naked women. When my pisces co-worker brought her new love to happy hour, she would hover close to him and barely leave his side if he was talking to another female however innocent the conversation was. I have many examples like this.

For myself, just a few weeks ago I went to a party with a guy I was newly seeing. He's a good looking and charming guy and there was another pisces woman there who threw herself at him the entire night. I left him and let him talk to her while I mingled with my friends. I felt no jealousy about the woman herself and I do not have low self-esteem, but I wasn't exactly thrilled at the idea of any other woman captivating his attention. I did not show him my jealousy and my attitude was "If that is what he wants, I will leave him be to go after it." See, so the degree to which I feel jealousy is not that strong...I don't turn into some raging green-eyed monster, but I do feel it and I'm not in denial about it.

Pisces men in my experience, they get jealous too. They don't mind having a wandering eye but they won't tolerate it in their partners.
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Nefer thanks for your input...
You describe things fantastically...

My female Pisces friend, who gets insanely jealous... she never shows it... but I know she does...and she admits she does...
She just never admits it to the person who makes her feel that way...
She shows it to me...

I don't know if he was jealous... he obviously won't show it...
I find his behaviour questionable after rocking up to my house and not even having the courtesy to hand me my belongings...
Just assuming I had male company and taking off...
I asked my female Pisces friend, she said "that's jealousy straight up... if it was me, I'd want you to call me as it will show you're interested in me"

So I called him and he was seriously overly happy to hear from me...
What made me think it was jealousy was his line of questioning in the middle of our fun conversation...
"what is with the work car in your driveway?" "it could have been a man" saying it all in a cute teasing voice...
If he doesn't have feelings for me, and is just a friend... why dump my stuff in my driveway? the polite thing to do is hand it to me, even if I did have visitors...male or female...
And it's not the first time, he often sounds me out on men...on my birthday he asked if I was having birthday sex... why would it concern him?

I just can't get believe how great it is when we're both flowing along naturally...and then within a few seconds *bam* he's closed off and nervous...
And nothing has even happened...just lighthearted fun...
He tried to explain it a few times to me last week, apologising for his odd behaviour around me...

But like you said Nefer, I'm being patient...
Not to try and lure him in either...
It's my life lesson I believe :o)
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@LeoLady I don't have experience with tauruses but I hear from girl friends that they are really jealous and I don't think we pisces are anything close to that. However, I don't care what anyone says, pisces DO feel jealousy (feeling and displaying being two different things). Especially an emotional sign like us....we are not made of stone. I feel the same way your pisces man feels....never really jealous OF a person because for me that is ridiculous. When I do feel jealous it is over a situation like the one you stated above.
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Crabbygirl

What exactly do you want to know? I am confused.



ha... I confuse myself...

I asked before if Pisces get jealous...
Don't you think him asking me about if I have a man over my house is a tad jealous?
As a Pisces does he realise what he's saying, or how he's coming across?

How do you put a Pisces in his place?
Do I just say it, because I had a talk to him a week ago about me and men...
And he obviously didn't listen to it...

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Thanks for your input Loyalist Rebel :o)

Could be sarcasm...
find it a bit strange though, considering I hadn't spoken to him for a couple of days and the second thing he says is "have you gotta fella over?"
He had been drinking and said he was a mess... and then spent the weekend all hidden away from the world...
depressive style ...

bah... I know it's a little detail to question... just kinda bugs me a bit...
And I'm trying to gain some understanding of my friends quirks...