pisces girls and bad boys

another generalisation, please excuse ... but i keep on noticing how fascinated my pisces is with stories about my ancient bad boy behaviour,

any experiences?

Because Pisces females like to be physically protected .. they like to feel helpless in the presence of their big strong man, so that he can feel like a big strong man.

Pisces, normally, accentuate feelings in thier partner that made them feel big. If when you talk about when you were a bad boy, she senses that you felt pride for being one, and it made you feel like a man, then it will be her inclination to react in awe, to make emphasis in this feeling of yours.

That doesn't mean she likes a bad boy .. it means she likes to make you feel like a man.

I do things like that with my Virgo husband. For instance, he's really strong, and though I am perfectly capable of picking up a heavy box full of books, I'll make him feel like he has to pick it up for me because it makes him feel valuable being a strong man.

yeah she tends to think that sometimes i need that ego boost and become very supportive and nurturing. Trouble is this usually happens when I don't need it, when I really do she is nowhere to be found :/

I'm getting this is the same case with her. when she really needs my structure ans steadiness she gets confusion and chaos and vice versa 😢

I's starting to get sick of this double polarity, it's like planets play our moods against each other !

oh one more question: do young pisces play hard to get?

Not sure it is a hard to get game, as defined by people other than Pisces. People have a certain image in their mind as it pertains to a chase game.

With us, it's not really an act of playing hard to get from our perspective or desire to do so, for any purpose that is self desired, as other people will play this game to get attention for themselves, so they will feel valuable for themselves and special enough that a man will chase them down.

The game of playing hard to get ... is for self-satisfaction, only.

With Pisces, it's possible that they would participate in this, however, it's for the satisfaction of the other person. Just like being possessive, for example, that's not in our nature to do so ... however, if our man feels important and special if his woman is possessive over him, then this Piscean female will likely be so.

you're welcome Likebrad, P ( as always ) raised very good points. there is the misconception that someone is playing hard to get and pisces women are the epitome of that simply because when men are with them they see very inviting creatures, they look so sweet and lovely that (out of no fault of theirs most of the time) they give you this false hope which makes you "push" yourself on them thinking that this is what they want, only to be shocked and upset when you realise it wasn't what they wanted!

then they feel bad because they made you feel bad, hug you in the most affectionate way which only give you another surge of false hope and there we go again ....

from any angle I approcah this thing it seems like a bloody vicious circle, damn!

can I get a hug from somebody please, this stuff got my head hurting!

back to my original question P, I was thinking in terms of playing hard to get as a measurement of how much someone really loves you, a virgirl or virguy for that matter will do that to see if the other one cares enough to keep trying, to keep fighting, im getting the impression that a pisces will rarely do that ....

Pisces likes sincerity & truth, not mind-games. If one has to resort, then there's obviously some insecurity issues or doubt on the integrity of the relationship. With that said, a piscean WILL fight tooth and nail, absolutelty, NO question, but won't be a part of immature mind games. We want to chase/be with the real, the honourable and worthy. Life is short, man.. Be your TRUE Self FIRST, that's the best gift you can give, and IS WORTH fighting for..

"I was thinking in terms of playing hard to get as a measurement of how much someone really loves you, a virgirl or virguy for that matter will do that to see if the other one cares enough to keep trying, to keep fighting, im getting the impression that a pisces will rarely do that"


Personally ... no ... I wouldn't do that.

A push and pull game from a man being done to measure how much I love him, would likely back-fire on him. It's doubtful that I'd come running after him, and I find it doubtful if most Piscean females would do that.

Fighting to keep somebody just isn't in our nature to do. If somebody wants to swim, we let them. And that's how we would likely process it.

If a man pulled away like that .... we would assume he wanted to end the relationship with us and we would swim away .. on a new journey, and a new adventure. Then if the man came back, likely wounded because he wasn't chased .. that would likely confuse the Fish because we thought you wanted start a new chapter in your life, and if you didn't want to break up with us, then why did you leave?

wow Mystic_fish and P

so much insight from your posts as usual. always enlightening to see things from a different angle.

let me give you the practical side of it:

"fighting for something" or "forcing something" should never occur in a "competition-free" society or shall I say a "limit-free" society where everyone can do whatever they want without any external constraints.

unfortunatelly our human society is far from that, in fact almost every society is infested with "survival-of-the-fittest" and memebrs of that society will compete against each other for survival and reproduction.

it's good that we evolved so much from the times of fierce and deadly competition but it is still there in our genes.

so competition = conflict which means the competitor must equipe themselves with the tools to win, one obvious tool is pure physical might but this is becoming more obsolete with the way human society evolved (laws, police ... etc ) and the competition is moving more towards the mental arena where deception, decisiveness, being sharp enough to see your opponent's weakness and quickly jump on in ..

still like a physical fight but on a mental level .. this is where playing hard to get comes in, it comes from:
I want something but if I demonstrate that I want it someone who controls it will deny it and use it against me since they realise it is one of my weak points,

in a way my weak points are exposed and the other has the upper hand ... now after I read your posts I understand that bringing such a thing into the relationship might not be productive after all since ideally the relationship isnt supposed to be a competition 🙂 now i see why my baby tells me "leave it" in her cute accent lol

sorry girls I keep on coming back

Then if the man came back, likely wounded because he wasn't chased .. that would likely confuse the Fish because we thought you wanted start a new chapter in your life, and if you didn't want to break up with us, then why did you leave?

To see if you want him as much as he wants you.

What's the point of wanting someone if that someone doesn't want you as much as you want him/her?

And if one has that "you can leave anytime you want to" -attitude, why would anyone want you? It just makes the other party feel unloved, unwanted and go "What's the point? Why put in the effort for someone who doesn't show any interest in wanting to be with me or even cares if I leave or not?"

If this wanting by a partner has to be expressed, or reiterated by playing a game for attention ... then it's not real.

And not worth it, and they can leave at any time.

Mister, it sounds to me from everything you have written about her is that she is getting ready to go back home, and you are searching for ways to keep her there.

Maybe it might be more beneficial for the relationship to let her go, if this is what she needs to do. Doesn't mean you have to stop talking to her, and caring about her. In fact, if she loves you, and you two keep your hearts together by constant contacting ... then by having a distance between you physically, might make you two have new realizations about each other.

Sometimes, the bird has to fly for awhile before it realizes where she wants to nest.

If this wanting by a partner has to be expressed, or reiterated by playing a game for attention ... then it's not real.

Then how, in your opinion, would you express this "wanting" or would like the other party to express this wanting? (Not trying to be confrontational; just being curious)

Beowulf ... the go if you want attitude was in reference to the partner playing a hard to get game for attention with intentions of "catching" the other person with intentions of obtaining a commitment ... when I made that implication, I wasn't talking about a relationship that has already been established.

And if a man did this to me, even after a relationship was established, to see if I'd come chasing after him ... then he'd be waiting a very long time because I wouldn't do it.

I'm not going to want him because he left .. if he left, then this isn't an indication that he wants to be with me, it's an indication that he wanted to depart from my presence = he can leave, and my attitude would reflect this.

If you want to leave .. leave.

"Then how, in your opinion, would you express this "wanting" or would like the other party to express this wanting?"


By being a constant .. dependable, present.

Ahh, I get it now. And you're right. I would also have the same attitude if the partner was playing that game with me.

But just out of curiosity, how would a Pisces female express that you want someone or want that someone to want you?

Whoops. Looks like we both posted around the same time. You already answered the question 🙂

I'm not going to want him because he left .. if he left, then this isn't an indication that he wants to be with me, it's an indication that he wanted to depart from my presence = he can leave, and my attitude would reflect this.

If you want to leave .. leave

You must have a bit of Capricorn in you. 🙂 They have this same attitude too. I also see it in Virgos but they have a slightly "regretful" look after they've let the game playing partner go....unlike the Cap, who will, like the fish, just swim away and look for another adventure.

you're right P she is about to go back, and I would like her to stay ... but that is not my biggest worry, my biggest worry is that she will enroll at university in her home country for the next 5 or 6 years starting september 2009.

I wanted to enroll her here but the university she wants to go to (oxford) doesnt take applications for 2009 entry, only 2010. Other options include applying to other universities here and I wanted to open this subject as an option to her application at uni back home but at the time when I told her she seemed against the idea and accused me of being selfish and caring only about myself.

I kept telling her to keep her options open and that she knows I will support her whatever she does but she didn't want to listen and i dropped it.

see this is the silver bullet right here, we can stay in touch and she said she will come back on february to celebrate her birthday ... I know that the long distance thing will only make us stronger because we don't drive each other as crazy as we do when living together but 6 years is a long time if she decides to go to uni in her home country.

I am graduating next year and will be moving into the unknown, a career, new country, new adveture, if we were to end up together it would be here and now

As a pisces, I like strong men, not necessarily bad boys. My first relationship was with a bad boy type character, but he wasnt like getting into trouble with the law or anything. He just had the looks and a more sexual prowl to him. But he was generally a nice guy and treated me decently, just wasn't exactly what I wanted.

My last relationship was with a nice guy actually. I particularly LOVE nice guys and gentlemen. I like being treated well by a man and in return I treat them just as good. Im more into strong, fun loving personalities with a nerdy side to them. All of my interests have had a bit of geek in them. I think its more because Im a bit on the geeky side myself.

my girl is like that, very nerdy lol and it takes a while to get her out of her shell to show it ... when she does I start laughing and sometimes teasing her but she is starting to learn how to open up and trust that I won't judge her lol

trouble is I ( out of no fault of mine ) bring up this guilt factor in her, I try not to but she says she feels like talking to her dad when she talks to me.

daddy? thats a nickname I wouldn't mind in and out of the bedroom 🙂

I hear you Hizaki 🙂


Mister .. 6 years is a long time to be apart. I understand your concern with this, especially since we're talking about a Piscean.

If you cannot get her to consider enrolling in a University near you, then I would suggest you relocating to be near her once you graduate next year ... because I have to be honest with you here .. it's doubtful that a Pisces will wait 6 years, no matter how much love is involved.

We are experiencers ... when the moment has ended, and the experience is over .. we move on, swim, to the next adventure in life to experience, and to wait 6 years for someone ... alone ... contridicts our nature of needing to experience people.

She'd probably swim away, Mister ... and find another man. Sorry to say that, but, it's highly likely. Pisceans don't like being alone, we don't handle alone very well because we need people to experience life since we flourish in environments.

A child would fix this problem ... if she had a child to care for, this would satisfy her need of another person to experience.

What countries are we talking about here?


You're in London, right?

Where is she from?

This is one of my worries P, that she will drift away. I remember a while ago when I first realised how deeply in love I was with her and went through an emotional and physical frenzy I told her that I am afraid I will lose her and she said that I won't and that she will be with me even if she is thousands of miles away, then I remeber i asked her something ( I can't recall ) but she said I cannot promise you forever but in the near futurem she seemed worried because we don't know each other well and didn't know how we will handle srgument when they do occur.

and then later that night after i was all messed up I woke up in the middle of the night and told her I don't want forever but I will settle for the near future.

After that there was this night when she was listening to this song she loves so much and I was sitting next to her close to her she suddenly drops her her down as to cover her dewy eyes and I tell her what's wrong. After insisting she tells me that she has worries about us, worries about our future, since she doesn't know whether I will stay in the UK or go back home, where will we live, europe or elsewhere and I told her that this is for us to decide together and that whatever decision we make it will have to be together but that is after we do decide to get married.

this talk came after an accumulation of events, she was "late" the week before and I reassured her that I will be there for her and that it will be her decision and i will support her. during that time we also had our first major argument about something unrelated and it went well.

a month after we are sitting at home listening to the same song. she tells me that when she listened to this song last time she was unsure about me but now she is.

the funny thing is that he rbrother asked her when he visited if she will marry me, at the tie i remeber she had strong feelings about marriage ( a no no ), i was still recovering from that week of hell so i was a bit dissapointed by that.

later she would ask me about my opinion on marriage and i told her that i undrestand her inhibitions about the traditional marriage but there should be a civil contract for legal/tax purposes, we had a frank discussion and also shared dreams about her working for the european parliment and me teaching.

when she talks to her friends and tells them about me cooking ( she is hopeles in that arena btw ) they seem to encourage her to "keep" me, she is planning to introduce me to them when we go for xmas

only trouble is her mother (who seems to think that she is too young for a big commitment) and isnt so accepting of my middle eastern origns.

this isnt all worrying as i am confident that she loves me and I am confident she is the one ... one night we went dancing and as we moved to the slow music i swear i was dancing with my wife.

the worry is that we are both at cross roads in our lives, if she takes that position at her home country (Poland) than chances we will drift regardless of her plans to come in february and summer. There is a possibility of taking a course in the UK but I havent opened the subject with her after the last time.

the thing is that at 19 she is still young, she is confused now and doesnt know what she wants, torn between sticking to her plan and these new open possibilities, she is scared.

we have three days left together before she goes back and i join her a week after for two more weeks then it is good bye until end of february. application for courses in the UK close january 15th

my gut and logic is telling me to open the subject with her again and if she shows resistence then i will sit her down and talk to her, explain to her that we could drift apart and if that were to happen it would be from her first, i will never feel the same about another soul and i know she won't feel the same about another soul.

this is it, I know that .. and i have had enough experience to grasp that this life isn't about careers, it's about who walks the path with us, seen it in my parents and feeling it in my guts but she might be too young to grasp that yet and chances she will let go then come back when it is too late.

the question now is shall go ahead and ask her to apply to uni here,

also I still have those things which she inspired and i want to give them to her, thing is i really dont want to add to the pressure and confusion she is already having but i feel like i need to act .. advice please

I like pisces just in some cases a bit sensitive