Pisces men..are they in fantasy land?

Can anyone tell me about older pisces men. I have been dating one and I need to break it off. I tried to tell him straight out that it probably won't work out, but he can't seem to connect the dots.

Ian's got it. Don't "maybe" anything. Tell him it just isn't working and leave. He's not gonna take you seriously if you're still hanging around and acting like a gf. You're just confusing him and yourself as well.

Pisces have a better grasp of reality than most people.. they're split between (or simultaneously in) fantasy and reality.. but they aren't confusing the two. And they appreciate honesty WAY more than "niceness."

I love Libras.. everyone here knows it.

But damn, y'all are famous for the "wishy-washy" - wanting to keep the peace, not saying anything "hurtful" and not really doing the breaking up.. more like weighing and trying to decide what you really want to do and *hinting* about it not working and waiting for the other to understand what you really want and end it for you, saving you the trouble (and guilt?). Don't try to "break it to him gently" .. it's NOT going to hurt him LESS by you going at this sideways. Head-on, girl.. a direct one-two punch hurts, yes.. but skirting around the issue causes a deep, slow burn.. and then resentment.. a Pisces thinks, "What? She was thinking of ending it all that time, but couldn't tell me straight out? WTF? She thinks so little of me that she'd play me for a fool?" and it hurts much deeper and longer. You aren't doing him any favors by approaching this softly and indirectly and "nicely"...

If you want it to be over, then say, "I'm sorry but things aren't working out for me. Best of luck to ya." and then stop taking his calls or hanging out with him. I know Leebs wanna be friends with all their exes.. Pisces like it too, but damn, give him a little time to heal before you try to be "friends" with him, cuz if he still loves/wants you and is hurt by the breakup, he may try to win you back somehow. Stay strong, it's better for both of you in the long run.

Nah... it's the non-confrontation thing. She doesn't want to hurt him or be rude/mean.. or heaven forbid, cause a big scene. She really wishes she could just wave a magic wand and everything would be fine without anyone getting hurt.. neither would be in love, they could be good friends and hang out or talk, and life would be great.

But the challenge for a Libra is to learn that indirect and "nice" is actually MORE hurtful in the long run, and that they simply cannot please everyone. That's when they grow a backbone, and realize that honesty is a much better policy.

Stop hinting and hoping he catches on. Stop drawing "dot pictures" for him to decipher. Draw a simple but detailed map. Speak plainly, clearly, and honestly. And then stick to it and actually LET him go.

No, no, no.. it's not better.. but that is something a Libra is almost born handicapped with... thinking that being "nice" (non-confrontational) outweighs being "hurtful" (honest). We all have our crosses to bear, Peri.. Pisces included haha

Would "I'm fucked up." do?

Besides.. I fuck up plenty.. I put on my big girl panties and deal. Also, I don't look to blame others for my own issues and shortcomings. But I also generally don't come here to post my latest asshattery and squeeze a little sympathy or back-patting out of it. I don't want to hear, "You're right."... I want brutal honesty.

Actually, if I had a REAL problem, I'd take it to Tubby or P-Angel for their brutal honesty and refusal to entertain sugar-coating or bullshit. Or LibraSid, if it was about my Libra and I just wasn't getting it.. that man is awesome, and even if he lacks the "brutal" part.. he's top-notch in honesty.

Thank you... I did it.. I told him ..bottom lined it... called it as it was...and guess what..HE STILL was in fantasy world. I am a true libra..I don't like the doll toppling off the shelf..I don't like confrontation unless I know I am going to win. Being wishy-washy is only because libras can't make a decision about big things..not so much small things. I will never date another pisces, you are too emotional and pansy.

Posted by mslibra
Thank you... I did it.. I told him ..bottom lined it... called it as it was...and guess what..HE STILL was in fantasy world. I am a true libra..I don't like the doll toppling off the shelf..I don't like confrontation unless I know I am going to win. Being wishy-washy is only because libras can't make a decision about big things..not so much small things. I will never date another pisces, you are too emotional and pansy.

Whoa.. so the guy has deeper feelings for you than you do for him, it happens.. yes, it's OVER for you.. your emotional disconnect has already happened.. his hasn't, sheesh! Another trait of you fabulous Libras.. you're Mr/Miss Perfect in a relationship, even when you're struggling inside with figuring out what you feel/want. So to the unsuspecting, you already appear to be deeply in love.. your sweet, giving, non-confrontational natures can make one THINK everything's just fine.. there aren't fights, you get along great.. everything's good, right? Wrong.. a Libra wrestles with their own emotions underneath it all... so when the OPEN ending finally comes.. Libra is already DONE.. and the other person is shocked and taken aback.. had NO idea this was going down! So give him some time to catch up, mmkay?

Just cuz he's still hurt and struggling with the sudden (for him) ending and wishes there was something he could do to change it doesn't mean he's in a fantasy world... just cuz he's been blindsided by this breakup does NOT mean he's a "pansy".. but yes, Pisces tend to have emotions whereas with the Airy Libra, logic and thinking trump emotions. Doesn't make you better, sweetheart.. just makes you different. Libras tend to be handicapped in the area of emotions.. esp the emotions of other people.. which tends to be Pisces' forte.

Pisces and Libra have a lot of similarities.. both peace-loving, want loving relationships, understanding and giving... but their modes tend to be at odds with each other. A LOT of the communication breakdown occurs with the often VASTLY different approaches to emotion.

I'll go out on a limb here and say you probably have an Air Moon.. and maybe a Sag Venus? You're a bit detached from your emotions (so NOT Fire or Water Moon), and the Libra in you wants love, but also want freedom and to not be tied down.. Sag Venus would fit that. haha I could be way off, but it's fun to guess.

"... what we do is not look for the ideal person because no such person exists (somebody needs to tell Dreamy Pisces that!! lol) but instead, we try to build the ideal relationship and ideal world around us with whoever it is that gets in a relationship with us."

Libras tend to get tripped up over that "fantasy ideal" and "perfection" of love more often than any sign, you know.. they get in thinking it's perfect.. then the imperfections start showing up, ripping off the blindfold, unbalancing the Scales.. the Libra wrestles with themselves.. CAN they accept these flaws? ARE they deal-breakers? Stay or go? More often than not, a Libra falls in love with an IDEAL they have of someone, and is disillusioned and frustrated when the reality doesn't match up. "In love with love, seeking perfection" is very Libraesque.

Pisces tend to fall in love with the underneath, with SOULS.. which.. everyone knows.. doesn't necessarily match the outer projection... a Pisces isn't LOST in the fantasy and confused, but they see the good underneath and THAT'S what they love.. but they can't always "bring it out fully" so to speak.. and while trying to bring it out with their love, often get the reputation of martyrs.. esp from someone who doesn't see the same way, they only see the asshole exterior, and assume the Fish is blind or stupid. They aren't.. maybe foolish and hopeful.. but when a Fish has truly had *enough*, the Fish usually has the emotional fortitude to deal, cuz emotions ARE our forte and we're very comfortable with having emotions.

Actually, Pisces do what you say Leo does.. we take our vision of "ideal relationship" and wrap it around someone.. it's not that we do not see their flaws. Indeed we do.. it's that we accept their flaws (we're very good at this too lol) cuz we KNOW that no one's perfect.. we're just looking for the "ideal" one for us... and that person is NEVER "perfect".. in fact, "perfect" ISN'T "ideal" to a Fish like it is to a Libra!

Omg...you just are completely a pisces!..yadda yadda yadda..it's like you are vomiting your every thought. Right..I do have problems with my emotions..it's because I was raised by a german mother who was breaking rocks in the prison yard her entire childhood..thus.disconnected..thus bears a child who she cannot connect with emotionally..so that is what I learned, BUT..I know this..and I am actually much better at expressing my emotions. I hugged my mother the other day and told her what a great mom she was and that she was the greatest!..I even kissed her!..so we all need to just open up sometimes..it's okay to tell people how much they mean to you. We all just want to be accepted underneath it all and we just want attention I guess. Sorry..but this pisces guy is definitely in a fantasy world. He told me I didn't know what I was talking about. You are right..I was gone a long time ago. We may still just be friends, nothing wrong with being friends. I don't have anything bad to say about him. He did seem to hang up the frame before buying the picture though..he had everything in his mind without asking me first and I just enjoyed the ride. He was generous, kind, thoughtful, accepting, introspective, geniune,..But I felt nothing...so I'm the bad guy..well girl..I admit it.

Yes, I'm a Pisces... but that's hardly why I "vomit up" my every thought and Pisces are generally very quiet and reticent.. that would have more to do with my big mouth and talkative nature than my Sun Sign, darlin'. Plus.. you asked for advice and opinions, remember? I don't recall hunting you down and saying, "Here.. listen to me." But it's a frequent occurrence around here for narrow-minded people to get defensive and snarky when others don't commence with the back-patting or saying what they want to hear. You're not an exception... in fact, you're tiresomely common.

So now you're so in touch with your emotions that you actually *brag* about "even" hugging and kissing your mother? Though I notice you didn't mention saying "I love you" to her. That's kinda sad, actually. :/

No, you're not the "bad guy" for "feeling nothing" for him.. just for not speaking up sooner.. like when you first realized you didn't feel anything for him and he was falling for you. Guess the "ride" wasn't over yet. He must have been generous indeed.

Also, I have trouble believing the conversation went:
mslibra: Hey, this isn't working out for me anymore. I don't want to continue dating you, sorry. Best of luck to ya. Bye.
mrpisces: What? You don't know what you're talking about.

Cuz if that's how it went, that's not cuz he's a Pisces.. it's cuz he's stupid or stoned.. and that could be any Sign. But I'd wager his "confusion" actually came from asking you why the "sudden" change of heart, and you trotting out some bullshit excuses about stuff you never mentioned when they happened, stuff long forgotten and in the past. Passive aggressive is a common Libra middle name. But any man who thinks you're actually into him while you're "enjoying the ride" is going to seem like he's in fantasy land - cuz YOU'RE selling him the fantasy. And it's clear you don't speak up and tell the truth.. you just take all the good stuff he gives, letting his feelings grow while yours don't... then when you finally get the balls to say it's not working for you.. HE'S the delusional one cuz he didn't see it coming? Maybe you're just THAT good an actress when it suits you.. and there are terms for women who play men. And it's women like that who take nice guys and work them over until they cannot trust another woman... thanks, bitches.

Leos heh

My sisters are both Leos, and one of my brothers too. (That's three out of eight being Leos? lol November is a cold month in Michigan *wink*)

Now, my Leo sisters are both UBER-proud of certain things.. both are total workaholics (I'm talking 35-40 hours is like they're unemployed.. they work 60 to 90 hours a week, and two or three jobs if needed!) and pride themselves on being able to do "men's work"... they've done things like carpentry, concrete, truck driving LOL But other than that? The two combined don't have half the personal self-confidence that I do, do not LOVE themselves like I do, and they put up with way more relationship bs than they probably should. Their lives, their choices.. I'm an ear and a shoulder when they need one, and only give advice when asked. One's getting much better, one's backsliding.

My Leo brother is rather an asshole, though. Proud, arrogant, controlling. Pretty nauseating, really. But a little boy under it all, looking for approval and acceptance from everyone - said he's jealous that I don't need that from others. He's got/had a really sweet gf for three years or so, but she's often completely fed up with his antics. Meh, he's young.. still time to learn.

But my Leo ex.. think about all the arrogant, condescending, in-your-face Leo traits you can.. got it? Multiply by 100 and then square it. Might come close. However.. it's a front. After five years with him, I realized he's ALSO a scared, insecure little boy under all that posturing and bravado.. he bragged and said he was the best.. to show off, mostly to convince ME and others.. and himself.. that he was worthy of.. whatever.

I have a good Leo friend.. now SHE'S the shizznit, SO much fun. Little proud, little cocky.. but not in a way that makes you hate her.. more like makes you admire her fire, her sass, her refusal to accept bad treatment. She's got a hubby who adores her and two adorable little kids she totally purrs about.

With Leos, I think it's not that they think they ARE the best.. they WANT the best, so they can give their best effort for it. But I also think they're very jealous and insecure under it all, esp if they aren't the Happy Leos, but more like the Sad Angry Leos who haven't yet built a life that enables them to shine.

My youngest child is a Leo.. chart FULL of Leo fire.. but he's still the Purring Leo and a pure joy and affectionate... hope he stays that way, and doesn't become the Pissy Leo later on LOL

Silly Libras.
Don't ever date a Pisces again please spare him.
Yes, Pisces (Men...) are in "Fantasy land".
We have one foot in an infinity of dreams and one firmly ground into the Earth.
This differs greatly amongst Pisces (Men.....) but overall we Pisces(Men) understand what is truly going on in reality and usually better than everyone else...Yes....Better....
But at the same time the foot standing in eternity is giving us very deep, relaxed and creative energies so this is why Pisces usually look like we are floating above the Earth. We are ruled by Neptune.... The Mystical fog follows us that we may remain in and feel safe in a place without so much of the rape found in reality.

Leos don't really think that they are the best. They simply "want" to be the best. They surround themselves with people that will boost their ego because they need that to feel good. Because they have such great personalities people automatically believe that they are the best. Leos don't necessarily mean for it to turn out that way.

Posted by mslibra
Can anyone tell me about older pisces men. I have been dating one and I need to break it off. I tried to tell him straight out that it probably won't work out, but he can't seem to connect the dots.

Could just break up? Seems to be the common way to go about it 🙂