Pisces & Scorpio - It's TWUE! (Page 2)

Is the key phrase here, "those we respect"?

Partially... Know, Trust, & Respect is more complete...

My ScorpWife meets / exceeds those three criteria - but very few people in my real world life do...

"Yes, Virgos and Aquas are similar. We both disguise attacks by using the "just observing" excuse."

I have to disagree with you there: When I'm in Attack Mode, it's blatantly obvious -- my Debate Mode can be far more subtle...

But back to thread: I can see where Pisces & Scorpio would be a "natural" combination...

Any other DXP'ers with opinions / observations on how this pair works out in the long run??

"She said the Fish Gal had the wrong impression, and that she made her understand that my brother and I are nothing alike. In physical appearance, that's certainly true, but I don't seem him as that different from me, but Debra does not like him, and I'm sure the Pisces gal got that loud & clear..."

"Virgs are logical & mutable, and we'll accept the opinions & advice of those we respect. I have learned to value the assessments of my ScorpWife where people are concerned, and defer to her expertise - as she does to mine on other issues.

My values didn't shift, I simply dropped a project after an Expert weighed-in on it."

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I see a whole completely different angle on this .. as usual 🙂

Dyr, this is also relative to the post I made on the Virgo board about how once Virgo's make a decision about a persons character, they stop all scrutinizing, and BLINDLY trust. I see this condition within this situation.

"She said the Fish Gal had the wrong impression, and that she made her understand"

"Debra does not like him, and I'm sure the Pisces gal got that loud & clear"

What I get loud and clear is that the reason why Debra stepped into this situation is because she does not like the brother and nothing to do with whether they are a good match or not. In essence, Deb wanted to make sure that the Fish girl got HER impression of not liking the Scorp .... Deb's like or dislike for the Scorp has absolutely nothing to do with whether these two are a good match or not, because Deb is NOT the Fish girl, and her personal feelings about Scorpio aren't relevant to two other peoples compatibility.

Deb used her dislike for your brother to manipulate another person by slanting their perception .. and to you this makes her an expert at relations .. this is what I was telling you yesterday .. you're blind to it because you've dropped your radar down.

In no way is this suppose to be an insult to Deb or you .. I'm trying to point out that because Deb does not like your brother (her OWN personal feelings) she has manipulated a situation BASED off of her personal feelings, and has nothing to do with the compatibility between two other people.

Take your own feelings out of the situation and read these two sentences objectively for what they are saying ...

She said the Fish Gal had the wrong impression
Debra does not like him

Here's is the evidence to my theory in the real world ......

From my perspective ... you would be more of an expert on this situation than Debra.

One .. you actually LIKE your brother, so you would be looking at his qualities based off of attributes, both positive and negative ... NOT just the negative impressions that Deb has of him.

Two .. you are familiar with both traits of Scorpio and Pisces people as it's relative to interaction with other signs, general traits and their compatibility with each other.

Personally, and I'll probably get flack for this .... Piscean females are very good at healing injured souls (though I'm a tad insensitive due to my AS - but, most others are very compassionate). It isn't uncommon for a Fish girl to actually be attracted to a man who is in need of her.

Scorpio females (where Deb is coming from with her personal feelings) are very strong-minded women who look for stability and determination in their men. Her perception of what another woman is looking for in life is deluded .. she can only process HER OWN criteria, NOT anothers.

Pisces females are the complete opposite of Scorpion females, Dyr. We NEED .... NEED .... NEED ..... NEED ... NEED .... a man who needs us to nurture them, fix them. This is how we feel complete.

We have to needed ... and because of this, we will actually look for a man who needs mending, so we can wrap sympathy and compassion and understanding around him.

In all liklihood .. this Piscean female friend of yours is actually searching in life for a man like your brother.

I think you were spot-on in assessing that your brother needs a Pisces woman ... and Deb's assessment was biased according to her personal feelings about your brother.

"Again: I've been candid with the Pisces Gal, and my Scorp has offered (OK, insisted!) that she talk to her as well before these two meet, since in her words, "Sweetheart, I love you, but you don't do well with people... Can't you be happy fixing up your cars?""

You were candid with the Pisces girl and she still wanted to meet him .... think about that while you're working on your car.

Well, hells bells, Angelina! Why didn't you chime in before??

You know I respect your opinion, even when we severely disagree on a topic...

Look, we all have biases - especially when it comes to family members - and I may be seeing too much positive in my Scorp Bro, while Debra sees too much negative...

Given that, and the fact that the Pisces Gal got the words from both of us, and decided against a meeting with him, I consider it a done deal now...

But, I will rethink your points, since you are more of an Expert on Pisces chicks than I am...

The Shame: If these two might've worked out as a couple, and now will not get the chance to see & decide for themselves...

I'm not gonna slam my ScorpWife as a Manipulator, but she certainly turned the tide for the Fish Gal...

P-Angel: "I think you were spot-on in assessing that your brother needs a Pisces woman..."

I'm gonna print that out, and frame it!!

(Not the whole sentence, though... I ain't crazy!)

To comprehend isn't a slam, Dyr ..... that wasn't intended to make a label on a person, rather, explaining to you how a person can be blind-sided if there isn't awareness. Virgos use the term "manipulating" in a very narrow definition .... to have this narrow definition actually blinds to the comprehension that ANY form of slanting another persons perception IS manipulating. To put a label on that, is putting it into a box so that you can only see one way in which this is done.

Every person does it .. even you. Time and again you have attempted to sway peoples impression of me in here, and that IS a manipulation.

MY whole point in this is to show you ... "blind" trust is irrational and illogical ..

Actually, I don't see you as seeing too much positive in your brother, for you mentioned his more unsavory qualities, along with his good ones and was candid in expressing this to her = balanced.

Your radar device should always be active .. that's what it is there for.

Personally, I don't think you should consider it a done-deal ..

Just because you love somebody doesn't make that person right.

Your assessment of the compatibility was correct ..

Angelina,

We will continue to agree to disagree about what is / is not manipulation -- just as we will always have different views on the ways we've dealt with each other on DXP...

I don't blindly trust / distrust anyone. Credibility is built-up with me -- or eroded! -- based on the accumulation of my experiences...

Can my ScorpWife sway my opinions? Of course! Can I sway hers? Certainly!

I would hope that the Pisces chick took into account both of our biases for/against my Scorp Brother before deciding not to meet him. But, who knows??

I will admit to you - as I have already many times on DXP - that Virgo logic has its limitations, as does Virgo mistrust of our own intuitions...

That is: My head says defer to my Scorp's judgment in this case, while my heart says these two people may be very compatible, and what a shame it is if they never find out for themselves...

I'm particularly sensitive to the latter, because I came very close to not starting a relationship with Debra...

Back from Scotland...Home PC still not fixed...

As for the report on the scottish men...DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't tickle my fancy at all...I must say..I was expected big bulky walls of men but alas no...skinny pasty not to my liking..won't be holidaying there again but it was lovely..Went to Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen. Did all the tours etc..very nice and picturesque...

And Scorpio/Pisces pairing is the best..aww..The man text me every day I was there...and I am going to see him this saturday...so all is well...

Hi and bye all....must dash..

Welcome back, Missy!

If you lived in my neck of the woods, I could probably fix your broken PC...

"...Scorpio/Pisces pairing is the best..."

Well, IMHO, Scorpio & Virgo are the absolute best -- for the 35+ year old crowd. I will concede that Scorpio & Pisces are the best combo for you young'uns!

My Scorp Bro has been married & divorced from three Earth Girls, a Gem, and an Aqua. I was in the Air Force for much of his married life, so the only one I knew really well was his Taurus first wife. They were like oil & water!

I'm not gonna approach the Pisces Gal, but if she asks me to get involved in the future, I will introduce her to my brother. Debra talked her out of it for now, but she may change her mind...

That is a woman's prerogative, right?? No matter what her Sign is...

"And Scorpio/Pisces pairing is the best..aww.."

Yes, it is! So passionate, intense, and just freakin' HOT! Really gets the blood goin' if you know what I mean. *fanning self* 😉

Actually, I think I should share why I started specifically hunting down Scorps. I used to work at a little gift shop and there was a wonderful Pisces lady who worked there. She was in her late 70s and she only worked one day a week, but I learned so much about just about everything from her. Turns out, she had been an astrologer since she was 16, and she still taught classes on it in the evenings.

I was dating an Aries at the time, and one day I was griping about the latest irritating thing he had done. She asked his sign, and then said "Oh no, no no! Fire and water are too different. The only true mate for Pisces is Scorpio. I know because I was married to one for over 65 wonderful years. Find yourself one of those."

Every time we worked together from then on, she would ask if I'd found my Scorpion yet.

She always talked about her husband (who had passed on several years before) so lovingly and about how much she missed him. They met during WWII. She said he always teased her about her "weird voodoo stuff", but then he was always asking her astrology questions so he could figure people out. HAHA!

Anyway, it's the stuff movies are made of -- and I'm def. going to trust someone who was an astrologer for over 60 years more than the copy/pasted crap on websites and books. She was living proof it can work, and WONDERFULLY. 😉

I had a Scorpio love once, but I stupidly let him go - still think about him to this day and miss him, and of course smack myself for not realising what I had - stupid Pisces. 😢

Anyway good for you SS glad to hear it's all going swimmingly. 🙂

Awwwww...Sweet T. 😢 Is there any way you could find him and reconnect?

lol I wish SS he lives in Florida now and is married! We do e-mail back and forward though so at least I still have our friendship. 🙂

""Well, your expert didn't really give you a choice, she just took it out of your hands."

That's because she knows she has to nip it in the bud with me, before I build up too much momentum (true Earth Sign here!), and overwhelm everyone with "facts" to support my inclinations...

Wow. I have yet to meet a Virgo man I can respect. You men can be such wimps it isn't even funny. Do you have a backbone? If the shoe were on the other foot and your brother were in your situation and you were in his, he would set you straight at point blank range. And he wouldn't give a kitty how you felt about it. It would be for your own good and you would thank him for loving you enough to make a MAN out of you.

Take a page out of a scorpions book -- male or female. Tell your brother to "suck it up!" He needs to get himself together and grow up. Then, he will be ready for a woman. Regardless of her zodiac.

But in this case, you acquiescence was correct. Your wife is right, of course. I told you to nip it in the bud, too. But you don't respect me because I didn't agree with you and you don't know me. Your scorp wife was not manipulating the Piscean. The Piscean knew your wife was right, period. Your wife made sense, and Pisceans are superbly wise.

DyarStra?e, you are STILL insulting this Piscean woman. You STILL don't think she can think for herself. You are STILL disrespecting her. Just because of some generalizations about Piscean women and Scorpion Men. Those generalizations are based on "all things being equal", not on the obvious contrast of a little boy trying to get with a grown woman.

DyarStraBe, I absolutely disagree with what you are encouraging in this powerful scorpion. Instead of strengthening him to be the majestic Eagle, you insist on keeping him as a earth-bound lizard. Why? Answer that, if you dare.

pathfinder: "I have yet to meet a Virgo man I can respect."

And, I have yet to meet a Pisces Woman I can trust - not on this forum, anyway...

Your insults and insolence are matched to your illogic and are a credit to your Sign.

In just one post, you ping-pong between my wimpish acquiescence to my Scorpio wife's involvement in this affair, to acknowledging my correctness at acquiescing, to my not proceeding further against my acquiescence -- I would ask you to make up your fucking mind, but I know from dealing with Fishes that that would be a lost cause...

As for my brother: He's a Grown Man who's managed to totally fuck up 5 marriages completely on his own. Meanwhile, his other 4 siblings, like their Virgo Father & Leo Mother, have managed to limit their marriages to 2 or less over an even longer period of time. No one in my family has clipped this Eagle's wings -- he's shit in his own nest over & over & over & over & over again to his own regret...

Your poetically insulting question has been answered, so kindly piss-off...

DyarStra?e

I am not a Piscean. But let me explain something to you. I deleted my two above comments because it was dealing from an astrological preconception. I did that because this is an astrological board. However, that is not the heart of the matter here. Your outburst to me clearly demonstrated that I hit a nerve and that you feel out of control to to help your brother. I say that because it appears that you feel I am blaming you for your brother's plight, so you bring other family members into your response to defend the reason for your actions. But instead of telling the world how messed up your brother's life has become is no reason why you can't try to understand what is happening here.

Second, let me say that we all agree that your brother needs help. That he wants help. However, it appears that the only way you can offer to help him is by the way you helped yourself. You realized that having a strong woman in your life is what helps you live a better life. So therefore, you think that is what your brother needs, a strong woman. You can't see beyond what you feel best helped you. And many of us are like that. If something works for us, we want to share it with everyone. That is an act of our love for others we want to help. However, in this situation, surely you must see that what helped you (and others you mention) is not what will help your brother. He has had five wives. You say yourself they were strong women, yet they are not what helped your brother. One of these women may have helped you, or maybe the second or the third.

All I am saying is this. Try to get to the heart of the matter of what is causing your brother to keep repeating this cycle of heartache in his life as well as in the lives of the other people, i.e.: you (as his brother, want him to be happy), the women he has married (he wanted to make them happy and they wanted to make him happy too.), and if he has children, them as well. It's obvious you love your brother. Seek God to give your brother wisdom. I will pray also for your brother to get understanding.

He wants to understand what is happening to him so that he can overcome it and live the best life he can.

So... who's the Real pathfinder on DXP? What's her Real Sign??

[1] pathfinder 4/14/2008 3:47:44 AM | ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

I am not a Piscean.

[2] pathfinder 12/2/2005 12:46:02 AM | ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

I am a Piscean woman.

[http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=312484]

This confirms that you are indeed a liar. No more soup for you! I will be ignoring your bullshit from this point on. Have a nice day...

This thread is not about me. And you continue to avoid the issue at hand. Cut out the temper tantrum and relax.

You always had the option to ignore me. So be it. It certainly won't stop me from posting here. However, as this seems to be a BIG issue with you and I am such a celebrity in your mind that you need to go back three years to find something I wrote. That alone speaks volumes. I was born in a cusp. I had my chart done two years ago with birth location and the whole nine yards. In this lifetime, I am not a Piscean.

Pointing out the lies of DXP posters is not a temper tantrum. Virgos understand the difference between truth & untruth, while you & others like you do not. Your contradictory statements speak volumes about who you truly are, regardless of who you pretend to be on this forum. As for "digging" into your posts for info: IF you had listed your True Sign on your Profile like I do, I would not have had to dig. But since you have a hard time taking responsibility for your other statements, I feel certain you'll continue to insist that I am responsible for your lack of adequate information, too...

Do continue to piss and moan... Virgos see a lot of that from non-Virgos on this forum.

It doesn't matter who you are pathfinder, It doesn't matter who HE is. Just be careful when you choose to criticize another, three fingers point back at you.

AHEM...alrighty then. To get this thread back on topic...

I have noticed that Scorpio's and Cappies are the only signs who kiss as awesomely as fishes... 🙂 Everyone knows Pisces rock the lip action, so yeah, my sucking face standards are quite high. My parting smooch from Scorp Man this morning reminded me of this - THE BEST way to start the day! Especially since I'm wearing the same pants I wore yesterday.....:::blush:::

lol SS completely agree with you re. Scorps and kissing well. Haven't kissed a Cappie though so can't comment on that one. Best kisser I've noticed other than Scorpio is Taurus without a doubt, always so sensual.

"my sucking face standards are quite high"

Same here, if a guy can't kiss he's toast, it's that simple. You CANNOT teach someone how to kiss, they've either got it or they don't.

A (potentially happy) update: My older sister told me last night that the Pisces Chick looked up my Scorp Brother on MySpace some time ago, and they've been corresponding most of the summer - he's halfway across the country working on a government contruction project, but he'll be home in SEPT for our Dad's birthday... and to meet her.

It could be an interesting Fall around here!

I told Debra about it at breakfast, and she just shook her head...

My Scorpio Brother flew in SAT for my VirDad's 84th birthday. He hooked up with the Pisces chick for a late dinner that night, and except for Monday, he's seen her every evening since. In fact, he spend last night at her place. I haven't seen them together, but he seems very happy with her...

Up at my Dad's, he mentioned to me that he's thinking about leaving his current job (where he makes more $ $ $ $ than I do!), and moving back home to start his own business. With the economy the way it is, I advised him against it. I didn't say it, but of course I suspect that SHE's one of the reasons, too. I would hate to see him give up the salary and the great benefits just on the hope that they're gonna be together...

My Scorp Wife is not happy with any of this -- blames me for meddling, and getting this thing started. But, they're both adults - no matter how immature he may act at times! - and who knows, they may turn out to be right for each other.

He's flying back West on Friday, so we'll see what happens next...

those pisces witches have a way of entrapping an unsuspecting scorpio man.

of course I would. I'm trying to warn everybody else.

Scorpion! I love it. Although I have always fancied myself more of a gypsy 😉

"those pisces witches have a way of entrapping an unsuspecting scorpio man."

A funny half-truism that is. I wouldn't call 'em witches though, semi-unaware seductress maybe.

babes = b1tches = w1tches = honeys

all the same 😉

Ahahaha Pikey! Best movie ever.

You Scorpios doth protest too much! You know you love us crazy broads.

"but of course I suspect that SHE's one of the reasons, too. I would hate to see him give up the salary and the great benefits just on the hope that they're gonna be together..."

One of the many things I've learned about Scorpios....they always do EXACTLY what they want to do. Maybe trading a great job for a great relationship seems worth it to him. But, yeah, he's a big boy...it's his life. Let him make his own decisions...and mistakes.

"those pisces witches have a way of entrapping an unsuspecting scorpio man"

Yep...but it's mutual entrapment......and YOU LOVE IT! I know I do. 😛

"Since when did babes=bitches..."

He is probably using the theory that they are babes when they are fucking you and bitches when they are fucking someone besides you.

nah, i meant you take the good with the bad. Two sides of the same coin. 😉

My brother is moving back in NOV - he'll be staying with my VirDad until he can get settled in his own place.

I saw the Pisces chick at work week before last. Only said "Hello!" but she was beaming.

No, no and no! Getting really jealous here. No Scorpio is gonna get in the way of me and my Pisceans! I kill them! I kill them all! We all know that Leo/Pisces is the best match. And now we can lock this thread lol

One of my Scorp friends just got married to a Pisces. 🙂🙂🙂

Heard from my Scorp Brother yesterday: He needed my Scorp Daughter's cell number to call and wish her a Happy Birthday...

He's taking the Pisces Chick to the beach the weekend before his birthday (10 NOV)... I mentioned that Debra & I hadn't been there in a while, and maybe we should make it a double-date (I was joking, of course!)... It was hilarious to hear him weedle me away from that idea... When I started laughing, he called me a Turd-Head - I didn't argue with him about it...

Brotherly Love - S+V style !

Well....DUH! It's because they're going to have sex on the beach, and I'm not talking about the foo-foo drink!

They'll be right there next to their element (nothing like the sound of the waves to get a water sign going). Also, speaking from experience, there's generally NOWHERE a Pisces/Scorp couple won't have sex. They're both freakie like that, which is just another reason this combo is so awesometastic. 😉

Well....DUH!

I already said I was joking with him. I knew what he was up to (yep, meant that one!), and I had no intention of crashing his beach party for two - and only two.

My brother has a well-earned reputation as a sexual beast, so she may get more than she bargained for! I'm hoping there's more than just sex between them. I'm hoping he won't rush into marriage again. I'm hoping he'll think more with the big head than the little head.

nothing like the sound of the waves to get a water sign going

I agree. My Scorp is happiest near any kind of water - river, lake, or ocean. Just knowing that it's close by brings her contentment. Even the small creek that runs through our property works for her, so I leveled out a spot on the bank, put in a small concrete platform, and a installed a nice bench. She has her own private retreat on the water, and she loves it.

Also, speaking from experience, there's generally NOWHERE a Pisces/Scorp couple won't have sex.

I don't doubt that at all! Pisces is Virgo's opposite about the proper time & place for the horizontal bop!

"Pisces is Virgo's opposite about the proper time & place for the horizontal bop!"

I would have to disagree with that statement .. the sexual opposition between Pisces and Virgo isn't relative to time and place. Speaking from experience, time and place seem to be more in common than I've experienced with other sun signs.

The sexual problem between these two is based around Virgo being service oriented and Pisces being feeling based. Virgo will approach sex as a duty, a routine, a provision .. while Pisces will approach sex as a meeting of the souls, a thoughtless convergance.

The Virgo will repeat moves, step by step, over and over, if it's a proven path to reach it's goal .. to include sex.

The Pisces goal is not to have one proven ... many avenues can get you to the same place, and then, euphoria isn't even one place to even get to. Orgasm isn't the aim .. the aim is feeling the anticipation along the way.

Completely different sex drives.

One wants a conclusion/climax .. the other wants the journey, without even realization of a conclusion/climax.