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THANK YOU, Intrigued, you hit the nail on the head!!! It's all about that damn double standard. Guys can sleep around all the time--even when they are still in the beginning stages of a relationship--and society thinks that is perfectly fine. But if a WOMAN has a casual sexual encounter...or even has sex while in a relationship...she's a slut. P-Angel demonstrated this double standard perfectly when she called me a "dick-wetting slut and whore" more than once for having sex with someone I was in a relationship with. And no, we weren't broken up yet on the night he invited me over to his house, we just hadn't spoken in a few days because he was upset and wanted some time to think. But again, look at how quickly P-Angel was to slam me for that and call me a filthy worthless whore. When is the last time you've heard someone say that about a MAN for having make-up sex with his significant other?? Odds are very rarely to never. THAT is why I hesitated to tell Pisces that the last time I had slept with anyone was several months ago right after I met him. Even though I was perfectly within my right to sleep with anyone I wanted at that time since I was still single, I still feared he might judge me because of that stupid double standard. So I told a white lie and told him it had been a year since I had slept with anyone. He asked me that personal question point blank to my face, so it wasn't an easy question to evade. Later on after we had gotten to know each other better and I no longer feared any judgment from him, I told him the truth about how long ago it had been since I'd had sex with anyone else. And he got upset. I truly did not lie to him to hurt or deceive him, it was to shield myself from any possible judgment from a man I didn't know well yet and wanted to make a good impression to. And I explained that to him. If he can't understand my reasons behind that, then there's nothing else I can do or say to him.

And yes, his plans to join the Service are great plans. I was glad to hear he is going to do this. It's what he's doing right now at this moment--not working and living on a college campus pretending to be a feat bit again--that is immature and irritating.
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Posted by MermaidPrincess
I have become less attracted to him ever since he decided to quit his job and move to a college campus just so he can play Frat Boy for a few months. That whole event just smacks of immaturity to me, and I can easily find plenty of other guys who aren't trying to relive their long lost college days.



Then why don't you?

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It doesn't mean I'm pining away after him. And quite honestly, after all the skanky girls he's messing around with up there I don't know if I'd feel comfortable letting him touch my body ever again. Eww.
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You say these things like they are facts... when it is only your fears and speculation that are fuelling these thoughts. How do you know he is doing this? DO you realize you are slandering him if you are saying these things without proof?

That is dangerous.

I'm sorry.. I know you are hurting and I'd really like to find some compassion for you but your vibe is just so.. yucky 😢
My Pisces ex was like you . Very forceful, spiteful and hateful. These are not good qualities in a person.

Why do you feel the need to convince people here of anything? Why do you want to justify so badly? You are talking to his friends and your family... basically anyone who will listen.

You made the right decision. TIme to move on...
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And PP, I do get what you are trying to say. It's almost as if his hair-trigger hostility towards me and anything associated with me is more reactionary than logical...like a knee-jerk reaction. It's just like when people who subscribe to strong political ideologies have knee-jerk reactions whenever they hear certain words, phrases, or issues. I think this is a common symptom in any man (or any person for that matter) when something is wrong. Maybe then he IS hurting right now. I don't know...
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I've read many times that Pisces "retreat into a dream world" when the real world gets too difficult for them to handle. And that seems to be exactly what he's doing...retreating into a dream world where he's a "big college man on campus" again and free to party it up with no responsibilities. And it's not just me who thinks this either. Several of his friends and my family have said the same thing. There's only one thing to do here and that is to walk away and let him get this out of his system.



Uhmmmm.....that's NOT a fantasy dream world. That is the REALITY of college life. Party 24/7 between class and with absolutely NO responsibilities. It is the ONLY time in life one gets to do so.

Okay there are some that don't, but 90% of college students live this way.
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It's the reality that SHE can't handle.


She lied to him, he dumped her and then went on to live his life at his choosing, which is to go back to school.


She can't handle that she's been rejected, so she belittles all of his choices ... while attempting to convince others that she has decided that he isn't worth her at this moment so she will put him on the "having to wait for her" mode to teach him a lesson that he must act like a grown up to have her .. which of course, is quite delusional considering he's already gone ... good riddance, sayonara.


In her fantasy, she's in control and is punishing him.


it's really pretty sad, and like I said earlier, much like the DeludedScorpio who wrote that love letter to a taken man, in where she actually believed (in her delusion) that he wanted her to express her sentiments to him, she believed him leaving her was his way of begging for her to bestow her love for him all over him.


It's not even funny ... it's actually so pathetic, that one begins to feel pity for them
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Once again, P-Angel you are obviously illiterate and cannot read. He did not "go back to school". He is ALREADY FINISHED with school. He has a Bachelor's Degree. He did not rerun to school to take more classes or further his education. He is crashing with a buddy of his who IS a college student at the university and is just living there with him for the next few months on campus. He isn't working and he isn't taking any classes...he's not a student there. He's just living with his buddy Dave in his apartment and pretending to be a college kid again with no responsibilities. His Dad isn't too thrilled about this either, because he isn't doing anything productive. He's just farting around at a school he isn't even enrolled at and just partying it up every night. I don't find this attractive at all and I would much rather have a man who has his shit together and isn't trying to pretend that he's 19 all over again.
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So yes TrueCap, when you are in your mid to late 20's and you suddenly quit your job and move 4 hours away to crash with a buddy on a college campus for 4 months so that you can laze around, smoke weed, get drunk every night, and chase all the wild horny sorority girls around, yes THAT is indeed a fantasy life. If he were younger and actually ENROLLED in college and taking classes, then that kind of life would be real life for him. But as I have repeated over and over again, he already FINISHED school and got his degree. He isn't attending this university or even working...he's just crashing with one of his friends who actually is a college student and trying to relive his old college party days through him. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that he'll be joining the Service soon and he's trying to go out with a bang and have as much wild fun as he can until then, but it still looks ridiculous. His father and some of his friends agree.
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I haven't "nagged" him about this. In fact, I've only mentioned it to him ONCE. And that was when I told him I wanted to call it quits and just be friends because I don't want to be with him while he's pretending to live in this dream world of his. But I have a feeling it has more to do with his expending entry into the Service, where he knows he will lose all of his freedom.
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And I'll say it AGAIN since dumbasses like P-Angel are too stupid and thick-skulked to understand:

I am NOT trying to manipulate him into coming back to me. Right now, I DON'T WANT HIM. When I dumped him, I MEANT IT. I need a man who has his shit together; has a job, responsibilities, and priorities, and isn't trying to pretend that he's 19 years old all over again. I don't want someone who is stuck in a Peter Pan Syndrome of never wanting to grow up and be an adult. Right now he's not much different from those 30+ year old men you sometimes hear about who don't work, live in their mom's basement, and spend their days smoking weed, looking at porn, and playing video games. NOT attractive. I'll be proud of him when he finally enters the Service, but right now he is living and acting like an idiot. You can't have a relationship with someone who doesn't want to be an adult or live like one.
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Hey Elusive, I didn't just pull those accusations out of my ass...everyone can SEE what he's doing up there because he posts crazy photos of himself partying with half-naked girls on Facebook all the time. He wants everyone to think he's some big man on campus who gets all the chicks when really he's nothing but an older guy who already went to college and is just living at a college he doesn't even go to. So yes, it's pretty plain to see what he'a doing up there because he documents it well.
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I'm waiting for P-Angel or someone else to try to say I'm jealous of the wild girls he's partying with. Well before you do, I'll just stop you right now by asserting that I'm NOT and here's why:

When I was in college, we had a bad outbreak of Chlamydia at my school because of behavior like that. It started from a really slutty girl (like the ones he photographs himself with) making a gang-bang porno video in one of the dorms with a group of 6 or 7 guys. And a huge crowd of boys even stood around and watched while it was being filmed. Then the video tape got passed around to every dorm room. And because none of the nasty people who participated in this porno tape used any protection and one of them already had Chlamydia, they went and had sex with other people and the disease began spreading like wild fire. I have heard from lots of people that the females at U of F are crazy wild...which is probably why he chose to go live up there. If he wants to get himself into that kind of nasty stuff, then let him. But I sure don't want him back after all of God-knows-what he's done up there. Like I said, I'd rather upgrade to a man who isn't going through a Peter Pan phase and possibly putting his own physical health (and mine) at risk.
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Well Elusive, I wouldn't be so "intense" if some of the people in this board wouldn't call me filthy names (like P-Angel) or purposely nit-pick at every little thing I say in an attempt to criticize me. I swear to God, if I were to say that Pisces was up there selling & dealing drugs or committing some other illegal crime, I do believe there are people on this board who would actually defend his actions just because they can't stand me and want me to be wrong. The true fact of the matter is that we had a good relationship. I did nothing wrong to him while we were together, and as I have already explained before, I merely fibbed on the dates regarding my sexual history because I didn't know or trust him well enough yet and I was afraid he might judge me. Later on when I grew to know him better, I leveled with him on that subject. Obviously, he was too sensitive to handle that and so he decided to escape and think for awhile by running off to live with a friend at a college campus and pretend to be a carefree college kid again...which also more than likely has something to do with him knowing that his freedom will end once he signs the papers to join the Coast Guard. Not liking his sudden rejection of responsible adult life and not liking the physical distance between us (again), I went ahead and told him we should just end things right now since I'm not happy with this situation. He seems more than happy to oblige me, since he seems to have thousands of young wild girls at his disposal. He can party it up and sleep with a different girl every night of the week and possibly catch an STD, and I can upgrade to a more mature, stable man. Neither one of us really mistreated each other or did anything really bad to each other, this is just how the situation played out. It is what it is. So you can spare me the lecture on how I need to accept all the blame and change myself, because none of that applies here. This was just bad timing and a bad match. It happens.
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Oh please, I fail to see any part of my last post that scrams that I "need help". It sounds pretty honest and straight-forward to me. I never mistreated that boy, and if he can't handle the fact that I was a little nervous about divulging all of my personal life to him so soon, then he either needs to get a thicker skin or not be with me. Being afraid to divulge personal info to someone you don't know well yet and then filling them in later on once you trust them more is not some huge psychological problem. I'd say it's very normal and common. I'm not a cheater nor a liar nor an abuser. If I was such a horrible liar, then I wouldn't have told him the truth later on after I felt safer with him. I can't help it that he's too sensitive to handle that. If he can't handle something as small as that, then how is he gonna handle something REALLY bad like when someone cheats on him or steals from him? We obviously don't need to be together and it has NOTHING to go with me having a problem. We just don't belong together.
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NO GIRL, this is just the way it is. He and I are both good people, but we just don't belong together. I don't feel comfortable with men who ask me such personal questions about myself so early on, and he clearly has some wild oats he needs to sow before he enters the Service. Therefore, we do not mesh well. I honestly don't see anything wrong with that analysis.



So simple, so simple.

1. Find a better, more HONEST way to answer the question, or use humor to avoid answering!

2. He's going into the military. Might end up deployed. What is wrong with him partying and enjoying life for a few months?

3. If you realize you don't mesh well, then why not let it go and move on? Find someone you can mesh with.

I don't understand all the dramatics.
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I wish someone would just fucking slap you. Go get some fucking help you clingy, needy scorpio. First the capricorn ran away from you and now this guy. You don't deserve to be in any relationship until you get your pathetic sorry ass together again and stop driving the people around you insane.

"Pisces told me that he wanted me to "chill out" also, but I can't chill out and be unhappy at the same time. I think by "chill out" he meant that he wanted me to just put up & shut up and let him take his sweet ole time to do whatever he wants while I patiently sit by and wait for him.

No! He does NOT want you to sit around and wait for him. There's a fucking reason he asked you to chill out. Judging for your previous threads I'd say he said that because you bombarded him with your useless clinginess and neediness then, as usual, you came here to victimize yourself. No one is gonna fucking help you with your problems. Only YOU can do that, so stop dumping your shit all over people you delusional scorpio.

Sorry, no can do. I have a life to live too, and I have needs too...needs that he is not fulfilling right now.

You do? Really? People who have a life don't cling on to people they like this much because THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS TO FILL UP THEIR TIME WITH! Interesting, you're also a liar.
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I need a man who is present in my life, affectionate, knows he wants to be with me, and non-distant. He is none of those things right now.

Oh for fucks sake! You like distant guys! That's why you keep going after guys who are distant. The minute anyone shows interest in you, you act like he just proposed to you. Grow up! And learn to get your fucking emotions in control. You're the most insecure person ever!


I want to be happy and right now he is making me unhappy.

Wrong! YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF UNHAPPY! Own up to your fucking decisions and stop blaming others for your own shit! People aren't your fucking dumpster. YOU made a fucking decision to get with this guy. YOU put up with him for so long.


The best and only thing I can do for myself right now is to cut him loose and try my luck with someone else.

For God's sake, please don't! We don't need another thread on how "that {new guy} is too detached. Stop fucking bombarding the men you meet with your emotions AND STOP WITH THE "POOR ME " ATTITUDE!!!! JUST STOP! You're so fucking whiny. Get a damn therapist!!!
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I mean, REALLY. That was just over-the-top immature, hateful, spiteful, and LOOONG. One and a half pages of screaming and ranting at a total stranger. Oh yeah, you CLEARLY have a life full of productive things to do. I'm starting to think everyone on this board is a bunch of angry, pathetic losers who have nothing better to do in life than scream at & insult total strangers on the Internet everyday.
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Well I would love to sit here and bicker back and forth with a bunch of strangers, but unfortunately I have more important matters to attend to...such as studying for my insurance license exam and heading to the beach. So much for having an empty life like Pucca claims.

And for those of you who think I am desperate for a man and take any act of kindness from a man as a marriage proposal, here's something for you to think about--I don't know if I want to get married...EVER. I used to want to get married and have kids because that's what society and everyone else around me TOLD me I was supposed to want a a woman, but in the last year or so I have begun to seriously question if that is truly want I want in life. I haven't come to a definitive answer yet, but I DO know that I don't want to be bored and miserable like almost all of the married couples I know. Marriage is slowly becoming a thing of the past, and maybe I'm one of the majority of people who is forgoing it altogether in exchange for co-habitation or they types of relationships. I have a lot of thinking to do about this...mainly questioning myself as to whether I am strong enough to handle the cultural backlash that will occur if I make the decision to opt out of "every woman's destiny". Pisces isn't the only one right now who needs lots of time to think and reflect on what he wants in life.
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Pisces isn't the only one right now who needs lots of time to think and reflect on what he wants in life.







He already decided what he wants, and has fortitude, courage and drive to go get it .. here you are still speaking of him as if he is at your low level in life.

Your thick-headedness is the only thing shining through right now .. and you don't seem to notice.
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Pisces isn't the only one right now who needs lots of time to think and reflect on what he wants in life.






Your quote above is making the insinuation that you need lots of time to think and reflect on what you want in life.

You said it .. then turn around and attempt to pretend that you didn't.



Like I said ... you seem to not notice how thick-headed you are and will run your mouth thinking that nobody will notice what you just said moments before. I suppose that because you can't see the forest for the trees, you think that everyone is as dumb as you.


It's not that you're so stupid .. it's that you have no clue that you're that stupid.

I grew up with a mentally retarded girl, and she knew she wasn't up to par with the rest of the people around her .. and if a true life mentally retarded person has this kind of self awareness and you have NO self awareness ... then how fucked up are you for reals?
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Uhhh, yes P-Angel I DO need time to think and figure out what I want in life. Because right now I'm not so sure. And I notice you don't have a word to say about how I have busted my ass to go after what I want in life like you praised Pisces for. Right now he is sitting on the campus of a school he doesn't even attend getting drunk and high. I've been studying my ass off every night until 2:00 AM for this license exam and I went through Hell to move across the country to make a better life for myself.
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Well this is interesting...I just got a text from Pisces saying he doesn't hate me and that I'm not his enemy. He says he likes me and that he wants both of us to do what makes us happy.

I'm glad to hear that, but I still think he and I should take some time apart for now. Like I just said, I have some serious thinking to do about what I want in life, and I'm sure he does too.
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Well this is interesting...I just got a text from Pisces saying he doesn't hate me and that I'm not his enemy. He says he likes me and that he wants both of us to do what makes us happy.




what kills me is how much you are reading into and twisting this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's not like you haven't been talking to the guy.. and Facebook stalking him. You said he has been mean and nasty to you so you HAVE been in contact.

This text does not say he wants to get back together. I think he is just being nice because he feels bad for being cold to you. BUT you are trying to make it seem like he's trying to get YOU back.

I think he's telling you to do YOU. Because he is certainly doing HIM. You're pretending to reject him again.. but that is not what's really happening
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He's probably heard about you talking to his father, his friends and anybody else who will listen to your ranting.

sounds more like damage control to me...

I take back what I said! He is no good for you! He wants a to live his life his way and party and you think that is irresponsible and insensitive to your needs. You don't want this guy. He doesn't live up to your standards.

Keep studying. You can do so much better.
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I never said he wanted to get back together with me, and I didn't say I wanted to get back with him either. Talk about twisting my words and putting words into my mouth!! All I said was that I was glad to see him reach out to me like this because even though I don't think we mesh well together, I certainly didn't want us to be enemies.



good. you sound really calm right now. keep it up and keep it moving...
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MP, why on Earth are you taking so much time to defend yourself on this forum? Honestly. You seem like a very intelligent girl, go find another guy! I empathize with you for many reasons, but seriously, know your self-worth and move on. I went through a similar - but different - situation (rejection) with a guy recently and I have learned that sometimes people are at different places in their lives and so a relationship between them won't work. He doesn't want to be in a relationship with you. It sucks. Accept it. That doesn't mean you aren't worthy of someone's love or valuable. We Pisceans are kind to our exes and typically can maintain some level of a friendship, as long as you haven't fucked us over, but don't take this as a sign that he wants to be with you in the same capacity that you were together before.

I agree with IntriguedScorp, if he dumped you - or began distancing himself before you dumped him, however you need to see it - for the reasons you say he did, then he's not worth your time. If he really cared about you he would forgive you and be willing to work on your relationship. As a Pisces myself, I can tell you that any sort of lying is a HUGE red flag for me. I hate dishonesty and it is a deal breaker. However, if I were madly in love with someone I could probably forgive them for a trespass such as yours and move past it.

It just seems like he's figuring himself out right now and isn't ready for a relationship. I will pass on to you the same advice that I was given; you should cut your losses and move on.

Best of luck to you with schooling and everything you have happening in your life. Someone worthy of your love will come along, just work on loving yourself for now 🙂

P.S. P-Angel is a crotchety old witch and she definitely needs to get laid. She is very judgmental and inappropriate and I would venture to say single and bitter. Please don't take her insults or personal attacks to heart.
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virgo moons are very critical to themselves. but the repeating everything over and over it is not due to the virgo moon.

It is due to her scorpio sun-- a bunch of nagging nagging nagging -- that is the negative side of scorpio.
The ones that are on their positive side do not nag.



I disagree.

probably because I think you might have a virgo moon too.
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i don't think she's sugar coating anything... especially not to save face. I believe she has a Scorpio Moon but I'll let her speak for herself
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Posted by 88PISCIS
virgo moons are very critical to themselves. but the repeating everything over and over it is not due to the virgo moon.

It is due to her scorpio sun-- a bunch of nagging nagging nagging -- that is the negative side of scorpio.
The ones that are on their positive side do not nag.



I disagree.

probably because I think you might have a virgo moon too.



i don't think she's sugar coating anything... especially not to save face. I believe she has a Scorpio Moon but I'll let her speak for herself



yes. 88pisces has a scorp moon.

did i ever mention how much i love that avi of yours? lol. probably a hunderd times 😄
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Posted by 88PISCIS
virgo moons are very critical to themselves. but the repeating everything over and over it is not due to the virgo moon.

It is due to her scorpio sun-- a bunch of nagging nagging nagging -- that is the negative side of scorpio.
The ones that are on their positive side do not nag.



I disagree.

probably because I think you might have a virgo moon too.



My moon is in Scorpio, yes Shell. 🙂----But the moon is not the nagger it is the sun.

I have a virgo moon in my family & he is cancer.. nothing like that. & I dated a capricorn with virgo moon and nothing like that neither, also worked with Virgo with Virgo moon and nope.

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My ex had a Virgo Moon... have to agree with you 88