He loved me... and that was all I ever wanted... and now... he won't ever even think of me again... it'll be all about her now...
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There was no dealing with his feelings about me... there was no thinking about me and us.. it was all about her...
He wasn't re-runing through things in his head deciding whether he can go back... no there was none of that... he has no feelings for me anymore... he's not losing sleep over his decision... he has the new one to think about..
I did everything for him... and he still doesn't want me.. I would do anything and everything for him... and he still doesn't want me... I must be a piece of shit if he doesn't want me after everything... I love him so much... and he just left me for some other girl... I must be worthless...
Yes, I would take him back even though he left me for some other girl... but that's not going to happen... it won't ever happen...
there is absolutely no hope for me at all...

"I did everything for him... and he still doesn't want me.. I would do anything and everything for him... and he still doesn't want me... I must be a piece of shit if he doesn't want me after everything... I love him so much... and he just left me for some other girl... I must be worthless..."
Maybe that's what went wrong, S702 .. "I did everything for him... I would do anything and everything for him" ...... and you left nothing for yourself.
Since there was no love and care for yourself .. there is nothing left except feeling worthless .. because nobody was caring for you, so now nobody is there to make you feel not worthless .. because all the care was giving to him, and none was coming to you.
In life, it's not up to another to be worthless or valuable .. it's up to us to feel this about ourselves. You looked to another to give to you, what you wouldn't give to yourself .. and we all can only hope that you come to realize this, for only to yourself can you find the one and only person who is ever obligated to your heart.
Maybe that's what went wrong, S702 .. "I did everything for him... I would do anything and everything for him" ...... and you left nothing for yourself.
Since there was no love and care for yourself .. there is nothing left except feeling worthless .. because nobody was caring for you, so now nobody is there to make you feel not worthless .. because all the care was giving to him, and none was coming to you.
In life, it's not up to another to be worthless or valuable .. it's up to us to feel this about ourselves. You looked to another to give to you, what you wouldn't give to yourself .. and we all can only hope that you come to realize this, for only to yourself can you find the one and only person who is ever obligated to your heart.

Look at an example:
If you had a roommate who just laid around on the sofa, ate all the food, never picked up after herself, refused to work .. would you give her money, and fix her meals and encourage her to continue lounging in your living room, while you did all the house chores, plus kept a full time job and financed everything?
If there was an streetperson to whom held a sign saying, "Will work for money" and you owned your own company, drove by and saw him, needed help at work, and so decided to stop and offer him a job so he could gain some self-respect and get off the streets .. what would you do if he turned down the job and just held his hand out for money? Would you give him the cash?
My point is .. people who won't help themselves in life, recieve very little in return. And it's deserving that they don't get things handed to them ..
In your relationship .. you did no loving for yourself and now don't understand why it's not given to you. Your testimony in here, is giving the impression that you aren't doing anything to help yourself, and expecting John to give this to you because you gave to him and it should therefore be deserved.
Life doesn't work that way .. if you don't have respect and love for yourself .. then nobody is going to give it to you.
If you had a roommate who just laid around on the sofa, ate all the food, never picked up after herself, refused to work .. would you give her money, and fix her meals and encourage her to continue lounging in your living room, while you did all the house chores, plus kept a full time job and financed everything?
If there was an streetperson to whom held a sign saying, "Will work for money" and you owned your own company, drove by and saw him, needed help at work, and so decided to stop and offer him a job so he could gain some self-respect and get off the streets .. what would you do if he turned down the job and just held his hand out for money? Would you give him the cash?
My point is .. people who won't help themselves in life, recieve very little in return. And it's deserving that they don't get things handed to them ..
In your relationship .. you did no loving for yourself and now don't understand why it's not given to you. Your testimony in here, is giving the impression that you aren't doing anything to help yourself, and expecting John to give this to you because you gave to him and it should therefore be deserved.
Life doesn't work that way .. if you don't have respect and love for yourself .. then nobody is going to give it to you.
"My point is .. people who won't help themselves in life, recieve very little in return. And it's deserving that they don't get things handed to them .. "
I think it's very cruel to blame one person for everything happened to them. If anyday they would become successful without any others help, they will become the same cruel person that once people treated him.
I think it's very cruel to blame one person for everything happened to them. If anyday they would become successful without any others help, they will become the same cruel person that once people treated him.
I'm not blaming him, I just wish that things hadn't ended the way they did. I love him.. and there is nothing I can do to get him back...

*cough*evilscorps*cough*

poor you...

S702 .. my point wasn't about you blaming him .. that's not what I was trying to say.
What I'm saying is .. YOU have to help YOU .. and you are the only person to whom you can depend on .. all you ever say is how much you gave him, and nothing about what you gave yourself.
That was my point ..
What I'm saying is .. YOU have to help YOU .. and you are the only person to whom you can depend on .. all you ever say is how much you gave him, and nothing about what you gave yourself.
That was my point ..
scorpio702 not to sound cold, but i have to be. THIS IS LIFE, you're only 20 and life is all about evolving. All events and experiances we go through, in my belief is preparing us for greater things in all our lives. The events we go through in our 20ths is what it is... a test. we learn and it is through the difficult periods that we gain our greatest insights and lessons. I find it funny how his excuse is because he is pisces... that's a cop out. A man using his own sign to justify his immaturity is comical, so I know it hurts and it will sting for a very long time, I actually believe you got real lucky. Your ex. is going through the test that all pisces go through, swim upstream or downstream. This test usually happens to all pisces usually during their 20th where the pressures of their calling comes at full force and they have to either choose to step up or escape from their calling and retreat which is the ugly side of a pisces. Your ex. chose downstream, and trust me their is nothing uglier then to see a pisces self-destruct. Let him fry in his own weakness, because trust me in time when you take better care of yourself he will most likely come back but by than you will not want him. Something about scorpio and pisces dynamic that last a very long time.
Well, a lot of my friends and family think that once I get back up on my feet, and eveyone thinks that his new GF will leave him afte a while.. that he will come running back to me... but I don't think he will... he will just be pining for her the way I am pining for him.. he will never come back to me.. and I do need to learn from this... and I have learned that I can't control everything in my life... that sometimes there really is nothing more that I can do... and I need to let go... but I don't want to... I know I have to in order to grow and learn from this... and if he does come back in the future... I only hope that he has learned and grown from this as well...
I know P-Angel... I know I need to give back to myself now.. I jsut can't believe that I didn't see this sooner... I mean I am so hurt... but maybe she can make him happy in a way that I never did... maybe they are the perfect match... maybe he will learn through interaction with her children that he should be more interactive with his... maybe she will be the one to make him grow up and become a responsible adult... I just don't know... I know that I had to go through this... I know that this happened for a reason... I just don't know why yet... and I still love him... after everything... I still love him so very much...
Everyone in my family keeps telling me that this is a blessing in disguise... but I don't see it... all I see is my heart being broken... and him not giving a second thought about it... I mean I have never hated anyone in my entire life, and even if I did, I could never break someone's heart... not the way he did... but the fact remains that he did... and I have to accept that.. and accept that he just doesn't want me anymore...
No, he didn't do me a favor, he just kept me around until he found another girl...
Wake up please. This pisces will not change. Trust me he chose his path and he will forever go down that route. sorry to say people are like stocks, you need to know when to buy and when to sell. however in stocks the hardest thing is knowing when to sell. people are much easier to know when to sell because all you have to do is look at their patterns. this man's pattern in life has always been the path of least resistance. trust me he is a lost cause and is not worth your time. he says he wants you to be more independant and grow up. trust me when i say the scorpio women i have met are the most independant women i've have encountered and that is why i always have an intense moments with them because i'm attracted to that. that is what this pisces man fell for you because he was in awe of your independence and spirit of strengh. however the weakness scorpio women have when dealing with a pisces is we just have that something even i can't explain. people say aura, charisma, outerworldly, or whatever it is. because all pisces just have that something, i find scorpio women want to just be consumed by it and give their all to it. when a pisces and scorpio come together it seems almost magical and a fantasy that to the scorpio women i have come across they become addicted to it that they become consumed by it that they start losing what has always been their greatest strength. Their passion and independence are lost when dealing with a weak pisces. pisces aren't weak in a sense that were dormats, pisces are weak in that we really at times are just really lazy and want someone else to carry us. he saw your strength and wanted to ride on it, however when he sensed your stengths were waning, he left. you were rolling with those really lazy pisces who just wanted to consume your stengths because he is to lazy to find his. i still say pisces male are the best but only after 30, but before 30 we pisces male are a mess. haha
But I honestly don't want anyone else... I've tried going on dates with new guys.. and old friends.. but there is just nothing there for me.. all I can see is John... I know that it will take time.. but it still hurts so much that he doesn't even care that I'm hurt... I could never stand to see anyone hurt... I would do anything to make that hurt go away... and he doesn't give a shit... I want him to be happy... I want him to be happy with me... and that's not going to happen... he won't ever be my friend again... he won't even think of me again.. all he will think about is her... and if she dumps him.. he will want her the way I want him... he'll never want me again..
When I met him I was so independent, I was so confident and I knew exactly what I wanted out of life... and nothing was going to get in the way of that.. until I met him, and things changed.. I did lose my independence and I did throw a few temper tantrums like a little girl, but I was always wise well beyond my years, and I was always a lot more mature and responsible then John ever was... and here is now with this new girl who is so independent and mature... everything I'm not.. even when I regain my independence it won't matter... once I buy a stock I keep it for life... whether it brings me money or a loss.. that's just how I am... I've always been that way... I understand that the way I feel right now will be a lot different once I can see the light... and I might find someone better... but I think I will always pine after John..

So james, I take it you are past 30, lol
That's pretty good insight into the male Fish .. thus far, most of her help has been from the females.
So, there you see, S702 .. james' words speak very strongly .. your ex hasn't found his direction yet, he used up what determination you had, once gone, he moved to the next person.
Lucky you, though .. and pity him, for you have this strength. You know you do because you said you had it before, plus ... you're Scorpio !!!!!!!
So, you have it .. it's just temporarily lost. Whereas with him .. he hasn't found it yet and there's no doubt in my mind that once you get your facilities straight, you're gonna kick some ass.
Have you ever been to the Scorpio board to just lurk? Listen to the women in there, they're very independent and determined to succeed, achieve and conquer .. so will you and you will because you have will-power.
That's pretty good insight into the male Fish .. thus far, most of her help has been from the females.
So, there you see, S702 .. james' words speak very strongly .. your ex hasn't found his direction yet, he used up what determination you had, once gone, he moved to the next person.
Lucky you, though .. and pity him, for you have this strength. You know you do because you said you had it before, plus ... you're Scorpio !!!!!!!
So, you have it .. it's just temporarily lost. Whereas with him .. he hasn't found it yet and there's no doubt in my mind that once you get your facilities straight, you're gonna kick some ass.
Have you ever been to the Scorpio board to just lurk? Listen to the women in there, they're very independent and determined to succeed, achieve and conquer .. so will you and you will because you have will-power.
Well... I seem determined at the moment to get John back even though it's not possible.. even my dad (who is a scorpio too) says that no matter else I am doing he knows that I am completely consumed with getting John back... and my dad says I know how when you get something in your head you won't stop until you get what it is your after... and it's true.. I've tried to not want him... and just let it go.. but it only makes me even more determined to get him back... but I know it won't work.. you are right.. he has never one ounce of tenacity in him... if it's not given to him.. then he won't work for it.. like the post office... his mom got him in... the carpenters union.. his mom got him in and he had to actually work.. and he quit because it got too hard... I on the other hand, never gave up on anything, I always tried my hardest and succeeded in the end... and now I'm trying my hardest to get him back... but it's just not working... and I know it would be the best thing for me to just let go... but I can't... my dad prays that John will take me back so that I can "see the real him" and realize that it's not meant to be... he thinks that I won't stop wanting him until I get him back and I will see all of his old ways.... but I think if I got him back I would cherish him that much more and try that much harder for him....
hahaha p-angel i'm actually just 25, however i grew up in one of the worst areas in toronto and being the only korean in that area i had to develop my own strengths. so i was lucky to learn and develop the will to fight at a very young age. that to me is what the pisces need to develop the most is the will to fight for a dream and a purpose. i was lucky to find it that purpose last year and i know my dream seem impossible to others, i just have a quiet confidence that my ability to be innovative and imaginative will get me there. but of course being pisces we always somehow find loopholes in this life to make reach our goals much easier than others. damn we are lucky if we find our purpose to use our gifts to reach that level.
again it's all about him in the words you speak. please stop being so blind because you're showing me the reason why he left you. it's all about him and not you. pisces men love women who are independent because that is what we are, but when a women loses her self than the pisces male loses all respect for her. he's a loser and he let you go, don't think about this trash. the only reason why you can't stop thinking about him is because you have no other guy there for you. he blindsided you and had a safety girl by his side. trust me go out, have fun, date other guys for fun, and screen them...
How did your best friend end up?

"but I think if I got him back I would cherish him that much more and try that much harder for him...."
Why, though? I mean .. I don't mean to sound cruel, but, seriously .. if you realize that by letting him suck all the life out of you, it only serves to let him continue being a leech .. why would anybody cherish THAT?
What you have is called an obssession and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has told you that .. it's quite normal for Scorpio's. I watched my son go through it ever since he was a teen .. he still is obsessed with his woman and will continue to do so.
What I tell him is NOT to throw away, or get over these intense feelings that compel him, rather, try and channel this energy through other avenues, as well as, his woman. If all this powerful energy of the Scorpio is concentrated in one area, you will go positively mad if you don't acheive this ONE thing .. so, by letting out some of this in other areas, as well, not all the force is on one (item), and so he is then able to see his woman in a different light. Certainly, it doesn't change his feelings and he still adores her, but, he can at least now see that she human, rather than a God.
Try that S702 .. just try. If you feel like you're going to just pop because it's too intense to handle .. then continue keeping him in your thoughts, if you HAVE to, ALSO, though, put some of this energy in another place so it can dissipate some.
Why, though? I mean .. I don't mean to sound cruel, but, seriously .. if you realize that by letting him suck all the life out of you, it only serves to let him continue being a leech .. why would anybody cherish THAT?
What you have is called an obssession and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has told you that .. it's quite normal for Scorpio's. I watched my son go through it ever since he was a teen .. he still is obsessed with his woman and will continue to do so.
What I tell him is NOT to throw away, or get over these intense feelings that compel him, rather, try and channel this energy through other avenues, as well as, his woman. If all this powerful energy of the Scorpio is concentrated in one area, you will go positively mad if you don't acheive this ONE thing .. so, by letting out some of this in other areas, as well, not all the force is on one (item), and so he is then able to see his woman in a different light. Certainly, it doesn't change his feelings and he still adores her, but, he can at least now see that she human, rather than a God.
Try that S702 .. just try. If you feel like you're going to just pop because it's too intense to handle .. then continue keeping him in your thoughts, if you HAVE to, ALSO, though, put some of this energy in another place so it can dissipate some.
It's time to break out the rum and coke again

"damn we are lucky if we find our purpose to use our gifts to reach that level."
And luckier still, if we have your courage to use that gift, if found.
Sounds like you are way beyond in your fellow fish in your evolution .. that fantastic, james .. I truly hope you conquer those loopholes so you can reach your star.
🙂
And luckier still, if we have your courage to use that gift, if found.
Sounds like you are way beyond in your fellow fish in your evolution .. that fantastic, james .. I truly hope you conquer those loopholes so you can reach your star.
🙂
Leech.... not leech... he just needed someone there to help him through everything... and I wanted to be there to help him.. I couldn't even see that I was losing my independence.. I thought that it was okay to let myself become so attached to him... because he had with me... and I always thought of everything as ours... and now it's all his again... and I lost the very thing that made him want me so much... and I guess it was time to move on to the next independent girl...

"and I lost the very thing that made him want me so much"
Also, you lost the very thing that made you want you so much, too
* Correction
You TEMPORARILY mis-placed the very thing that made you want you so much
Also, you lost the very thing that made you want you so much, too
* Correction
You TEMPORARILY mis-placed the very thing that made you want you so much

You're gonna beat it, I know you are .. I know Scorpio's too damn well, and have way too much faith in them to think otherwise.
So, tell me .. what do you like to do as a hobby? Are you artistic?
So, tell me .. what do you like to do as a hobby? Are you artistic?
P-Angel... I know you are probably going to get mad at me for asking this... but do you think he will ever want me back? I know I'm better off and everything else.. but do you think that he might want me back if things don't work out with this other girl? And it's okay if you tell me no... I need to hear the harsh truth...
Actually yes, but I ca't draw. I'm a published poet and a great writer.. everyone says I'm way too creative to be a scorpio... most scorpios are pure logic... my dad is... but I'm not so much. I love to read and write... getting my thoughts all down on paper has helped me through a great deal of this... but it's still not helping me get over it completely... writing to him how I feel has not worked... poetry hasn't worked.. nothing works!!
scorpio702 it is done with, but on your part. he will come back when he sees you have become stronger than ever, however by than someone better will also notice and will want you. by than you are going to laugh at the pisces and move on.

It doesn't matter if he comes back, S702 .. and you want to know why?
How you are feeling right now .. will NEVER go away so long as you are connected to him, for even IF he came back, you would ALWAYS have this doubt, this old thread tugging on you telling you that he could actually kick you out onto the streets at any given moment .. this feeling of being at the end of your rope will be FOREVER with him in your life.
You have this false belief that if he comes back to you with open and loving arms, that all this will go away and you will be happy again .. but, that's not the truth.
Every time he is five minutes late coming home .. you will freak out.
Every time he gets a new job and mentions a woman who works there .. you will freak out.
Every time he starts to do his Pisces thing and becomes vague .. you will freak out.
Every time an argument ensues about past issues .. you will freak out.
Freak out just as you are right now because all of these things will remind you of how you are this very minute, and you will dis-trust his honor and loyalty.
If he came back tomorrow, this pain isn't going to go away .. because it's not him who has hurt you Scorpio702 .. it's your own pride in yourself, luv.
How you are feeling right now .. will NEVER go away so long as you are connected to him, for even IF he came back, you would ALWAYS have this doubt, this old thread tugging on you telling you that he could actually kick you out onto the streets at any given moment .. this feeling of being at the end of your rope will be FOREVER with him in your life.
You have this false belief that if he comes back to you with open and loving arms, that all this will go away and you will be happy again .. but, that's not the truth.
Every time he is five minutes late coming home .. you will freak out.
Every time he gets a new job and mentions a woman who works there .. you will freak out.
Every time he starts to do his Pisces thing and becomes vague .. you will freak out.
Every time an argument ensues about past issues .. you will freak out.
Freak out just as you are right now because all of these things will remind you of how you are this very minute, and you will dis-trust his honor and loyalty.
If he came back tomorrow, this pain isn't going to go away .. because it's not him who has hurt you Scorpio702 .. it's your own pride in yourself, luv.

We all face it .. every time I've ever had such a horrible life event happen to me, as well as the rest of us .. we never remember exactly what the other person did, what we remember is that we allowed ourselves to be in a bad situation because of lack of courage.
That sounds harsh .. you wanted the truth, that is it. Ten years from now, you won't be damning him for doing this .. you will be damning yourself, for permitting him to abuse you when you actually had the courage and strength not to .. that's what you'll remember.
That sounds harsh .. you wanted the truth, that is it. Ten years from now, you won't be damning him for doing this .. you will be damning yourself, for permitting him to abuse you when you actually had the courage and strength not to .. that's what you'll remember.

So, whether he comes back, or not doesn't matter.
There's no way I can say personally whether or not he will come back, for I only know the accounts as testified by you .. he is not here, so your views are biased.
From your perspective you believe that you were giving of full and complete love, love, love .. from his perspective, perhaps it wasn't the love he was looking for, so would contridict your claims .. people feel differently .. how it feels to you, may not be how it feels to him. So, there's no way of knowing with certainty whether I believe he is coming back.
There's no way I can say personally whether or not he will come back, for I only know the accounts as testified by you .. he is not here, so your views are biased.
From your perspective you believe that you were giving of full and complete love, love, love .. from his perspective, perhaps it wasn't the love he was looking for, so would contridict your claims .. people feel differently .. how it feels to you, may not be how it feels to him. So, there's no way of knowing with certainty whether I believe he is coming back.

Where do you work?
p-angel i think she is doing one of those hearing but not listening thing. not matter what we say to her, she has already set her mind to get him back. her determination is commendable, but such wasted energy. i hope she learns how to diversify her energy better.
Sorry, I went away from the computer for a bit. I currently do not have a job, which is such a rarity for me, I had called my parents and told them what happened with me getting kicked out, and they said to just quit my job and come up there with them.. so I did.. and I'm trying to find another job... but there really is no place to work in Pahrump except a few bars and Walmart.. and since I'm not 21 yet... I will find out from Walmart in a few days whether I passed the Credit background check... which my credit is beyond horrible... and James I think you are partially right... I hear everything that everyone says... but there is just a part of me that refuses to accept it... a part of me that just won't give up... even when I want to... P-Angel is right, I need to focus my energy elsewhere... I am going to be volunteering at the local animal shelter... so that should take my mind off of things for a bit... but you are also right P-Angel.. I would always worry when he starts a new job... if he meets another girl.. in the back of my mind I will always wonder... and no, it wasn't all love love love that I gave to him... I tried to push him into growing up and thinking for himself and make his own decisions... and he would get upset at me for it... I tried to make him more responsible and I think he resented me for it... like I said.. I pushed him too far.. only he can decide if he wants to be more responsible and grow up a little bit.. and I realize that now... as much as I tried... he has to want to do it..
Will making him jealous work? His sister said that if he knows I'm going out with new guys that it would make him jealous... I don't know.. I've never been one to want to make someone jealous... I don't want to upset him even more.. but she said that it would get his attention focused back on me... his sister said that he has definitely not forgotten about me.. and that right now he's just in the angry stage where everything was my fault and all he can see is the negative.. but he won't always feel this way.. and if he finds out that I am moving on with my life... and even going out with new guys.. then that would get him thinking... she said that it doesn't matter that he's a pisces.. and that his girlfriend isn't really a girlfriend... they have met her twice in the past month.. and he never talks about her and rarely sees her... and with me it was the opposite... we were at eachother's places everyday... and I was all he could about when I wasn't around... so I don't think things are really serious between them... but who knows.... do you think the jealousy thing would work? It's not really me though... I don't want to make anyone jealous... that's not a good feeling.. but if it will get his attention... then it would be worth a shot right—
I'm sorry....just got to say this -
If I were dating a guy and he responded to me the way you are to your ex....I would install the "NO CONTACT" rule and never look back - but then again, I am an Aries.
*correction - if I were......this did happen to me and I did do the above.
this is beginning to sound like a Fatal Attraction Movie - YIKES!!!!!!
If I were dating a guy and he responded to me the way you are to your ex....I would install the "NO CONTACT" rule and never look back - but then again, I am an Aries.
*correction - if I were......this did happen to me and I did do the above.
this is beginning to sound like a Fatal Attraction Movie - YIKES!!!!!!
I never saw that movie... but I'm guessing that it's bad... the word fatal... doesn't usually mean anything good... I don't want him to play games and I don't think he is. I don't want to play games either... and doing a whole jealousy bit is playing games... I'm just shit out of luck 😢
Is there anyway possible that you can change your focus to you? Meaning maybe this is one of the BEST experiences that could be happening to you at this time in your life and be grateful for it?
Everything....everything happens for a reason. Finding peace in knowing that this is what was supposed to happen will get you on the road of healing yourself.
Do you Scorps by nature struggle with seeing the neg. of a situation rather than looking for the good?
Everything....everything happens for a reason. Finding peace in knowing that this is what was supposed to happen will get you on the road of healing yourself.
Do you Scorps by nature struggle with seeing the neg. of a situation rather than looking for the good?
Yes... I now realize that there is absolutely nothing I can do now except give it time... and leave him alone... and maybe in time he will come to want me again... all I can do is hope and pray every day that he will come back to me... and that's all there is to it...
Well.. I think the reason that this had to happen is so that I would be able to actually see my mistakes and realize that I had made them... and learn from them and grow up a little bit and become independen again... and then he will wan me again...
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