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Please inculcate the habit of reading carefully. I mentioned only two races at the top. Now if U dont subscribe to the fact that Aryans invaded Indus valley and settled here, then it wont subvert the history for all of us. Kindly come out with probabilistic authorized facts next time.
Indian population is polygenetic and is said to be the melting pot of various racial mosaic. Few, if any, can claim to belortg to any particular stock. Nevertheless, many Indians pride themselves on their Aryan descent.
The species known as Ramapithecaswas found in tjne Slwalik foothills of the northwestern Himalayas. This species believed to ie the first in the line of hominids (human family) lived some 14 million years ago. Researches have found that a species rescinbling the AustralopithecusUved in Indiasome 2 million years ago. Even this discovery leaves an evolutionary gap of as much as 12 million years since Ramawthecus.
Races in India (as per classical pattern) According to Dr. B. s. Guha. The population of India is derived from 6 main ethnic groups:
Negrito,
Proto-Australoids or Austrics,
Mongololds,
MediteiTanean or Dravidian,
Western Brachycephals and
Nordic Aryans.
Negroids, the brachycephalic (broad headed) from Africa were the oldest people to found only in patches among the hill tribes of south India (Irulas, Kodars, Paniyans and Kurumbas) on the mainland. But they survive day of the Saka month are given below: in the Andaman Islands, where they have retained their language.
Proto - Australoids or Austrics were a race of people, with wavy hair plentifully distributed over their brown bodies, long heads with low foreheads and prominent eyeridges, noses with low and broad roots, thick jaws, large palates and teeth and small chins.
The Austrics of india represent a race of medium height, dark (and in some cases black) complexion with long heads and rather flat moses but otherwise of regular features. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. Austric tribes spread over the whole of india and then pass on to Burma, Malaya and the islands of South East Asia. The Austrics form the bedrock of the people.
The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Their language has survived in the Kol orMunda speech Mundari current in Eastern and Central India.
The species known as Ramapithecaswas found in tjne Slwalik foothills of the northwestern Himalayas. This species believed to ie the first in the line of hominids (human family) lived some 14 million years ago. Researches have found that a species rescinbling the AustralopithecusUved in Indiasome 2 million years ago. Even this discovery leaves an evolutionary gap of as much as 12 million years since Ramawthecus.
Races in India (as per classical pattern) According to Dr. B. s. Guha. The population of India is derived from 6 main ethnic groups:
Negrito,
Proto-Australoids or Austrics,
Mongololds,
MediteiTanean or Dravidian,
Western Brachycephals and
Nordic Aryans.
Negroids, the brachycephalic (broad headed) from Africa were the oldest people to found only in patches among the hill tribes of south India (Irulas, Kodars, Paniyans and Kurumbas) on the mainland. But they survive day of the Saka month are given below: in the Andaman Islands, where they have retained their language.
Proto - Australoids or Austrics were a race of people, with wavy hair plentifully distributed over their brown bodies, long heads with low foreheads and prominent eyeridges, noses with low and broad roots, thick jaws, large palates and teeth and small chins.
The Austrics of india represent a race of medium height, dark (and in some cases black) complexion with long heads and rather flat moses but otherwise of regular features. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. Austric tribes spread over the whole of india and then pass on to Burma, Malaya and the islands of South East Asia. The Austrics form the bedrock of the people.
The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Their language has survived in the Kol orMunda speech Mundari current in Eastern and Central India.
Indian population is polygenetic and is said to be the melting pot of various racial mosaic. Few, if any, can claim to belortg to any particular stock. Nevertheless, many Indians pride themselves on their Aryan descent.
The species known as Ramapithecaswas found in tjne Slwalik foothills of the northwestern Himalayas. This species believed to ie the first in the line of hominids (human family) lived some 14 million years ago. Researches have found that a species rescinbling the AustralopithecusUved in Indiasome 2 million years ago. Even this discovery leaves an evolutionary gap of as much as 12 million years since Ramawthecus.
Races in India (as per classical pattern) According to Dr. B. s. Guha. The population of India is derived from 6 main ethnic groups:
Negrito,
Proto-Australoids or Austrics,
Mongololds,
MediteiTanean or Dravidian,
Western Brachycephals and
Nordic Aryans.
Negroids, the brachycephalic (broad headed) from Africa were the oldest people to found only in patches among the hill tribes of south India (Irulas, Kodars, Paniyans and Kurumbas) on the mainland. But they survive day of the Saka month are given below: in the Andaman Islands, where they have retained their language.
Proto - Australoids or Austrics were a race of people, with wavy hair plentifully distributed over their brown bodies, long heads with low foreheads and prominent eyeridges, noses with low and broad roots, thick jaws, large palates and teeth and small chins.
The Austrics of india represent a race of medium height, dark (and in some cases black) complexion with long heads and rather flat moses but otherwise of regular features. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. Austric tribes spread over the whole of india and then pass on to Burma, Malaya and the islands of South East Asia. The Austrics form the bedrock of the people.
The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Their language has survived in the Kol orMunda speech Mundari current in Eastern and Central India.
The species known as Ramapithecaswas found in tjne Slwalik foothills of the northwestern Himalayas. This species believed to ie the first in the line of hominids (human family) lived some 14 million years ago. Researches have found that a species rescinbling the AustralopithecusUved in Indiasome 2 million years ago. Even this discovery leaves an evolutionary gap of as much as 12 million years since Ramawthecus.
Races in India (as per classical pattern) According to Dr. B. s. Guha. The population of India is derived from 6 main ethnic groups:
Negrito,
Proto-Australoids or Austrics,
Mongololds,
MediteiTanean or Dravidian,
Western Brachycephals and
Nordic Aryans.
Negroids, the brachycephalic (broad headed) from Africa were the oldest people to found only in patches among the hill tribes of south India (Irulas, Kodars, Paniyans and Kurumbas) on the mainland. But they survive day of the Saka month are given below: in the Andaman Islands, where they have retained their language.
Proto - Australoids or Austrics were a race of people, with wavy hair plentifully distributed over their brown bodies, long heads with low foreheads and prominent eyeridges, noses with low and broad roots, thick jaws, large palates and teeth and small chins.
The Austrics of india represent a race of medium height, dark (and in some cases black) complexion with long heads and rather flat moses but otherwise of regular features. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. Austric tribes spread over the whole of india and then pass on to Burma, Malaya and the islands of South East Asia. The Austrics form the bedrock of the people.
The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Their language has survived in the Kol orMunda speech Mundari current in Eastern and Central India.
"And the Navy example you have given me can be still be the result of travel, because what I understood from my navy friends, they generally move every 2 to 3 years. It may make the Navy or armed forces more open minded, "
So they move and while moving they meet people in trains, railway stations, airports etc and hence they are "open" ? And they move to where ?...What about the place ? No significance of the constitution of the population residing at the base ? OR U mean to say that two different stations will have drastically different sets of ppl ?
Obviously U dont have reasoning in Ur diction.
So they move and while moving they meet people in trains, railway stations, airports etc and hence they are "open" ? And they move to where ?...What about the place ? No significance of the constitution of the population residing at the base ? OR U mean to say that two different stations will have drastically different sets of ppl ?
Obviously U dont have reasoning in Ur diction.
For Ur kind information , based on latest studies , even the castes in India are genetically different forget about the races.
And please, can U publish the study U were mentioning about ?
Also the report which went against Dr Guha and its basis ?
And please, can U publish the study U were mentioning about ?
Also the report which went against Dr Guha and its basis ?
" meant as in residing in different places. Since you did say that the bases comprised of people who came from different parts of the country, I am assuming those people had to move from their home towns or villages to that base? And I am also aware of the fact that Navty people move from base to base? And yes when you travel from one place to another, you meet people from different places."
Huh ?...
Huh ?...
Background
We have examined genetic diversity at fifteen autosomal microsatellite loci in seven predominant populations of Orissa to decipher whether populations inhabiting the same geographic region can be differentiated on the basis of language or ancestry. The studied populations have diverse historical accounts of their origin, belong to two major ethnic groups and different linguistic families. Caucasoid caste populations are speakers of Indo-European language and comprise Brahmins, Khandayat, Karan and Gope, while the three Australoid tribal populations include two Austric speakers: Juang and Saora and a Dravidian speaking population, Paroja. These divergent groups provide a varied substratum for understanding variation of genetic patterns in a geographical area resulting from differential admixture between migrants groups and aboriginals, and the influence of this admixture on population stratification.
Results
The allele distribution pattern showed uniformity in the studied groups with approximately 81% genetic variability within populations. The coefficient of gene differentiation was found to be significantly higher in tribes (0.014) than caste groups (0.004). Genetic variance between the groups was 0.34% in both ethnic and linguistic clusters and statistically significant only in the ethnic apportionment. Although the populations were genetically close (FST = 0.010), the contemporary caste and tribal groups formed distinct clusters in both Principal-Component plot and Neighbor-Joining tree. In the phylogenetic tree, the Orissa Brahmins showed close affinity to populations of North India, while Khandayat and Gope clustered with the tribal groups, suggesting a possibility of their origin from indigenous people.
Conclusions
The extent of genetic differentiation in the contemporary caste and tribal groups of Orissa is highly significant and constitutes two distinct genetic clusters. Based on our observations, we suggest that since genetic distances and coefficient of gene differentiation were fairly small, the studied populations are indeed genetically similar and that the genetic structure of populations in a geographical region is primarily influenced by their ancestry and not by socio-cultural hierarchy or language. The scenario of genetic structure, however, might be different for other regions of the subcontinent where populations have more similar ethnic and linguistic backgrounds and there might be variations in the patterns of .
We have examined genetic diversity at fifteen autosomal microsatellite loci in seven predominant populations of Orissa to decipher whether populations inhabiting the same geographic region can be differentiated on the basis of language or ancestry. The studied populations have diverse historical accounts of their origin, belong to two major ethnic groups and different linguistic families. Caucasoid caste populations are speakers of Indo-European language and comprise Brahmins, Khandayat, Karan and Gope, while the three Australoid tribal populations include two Austric speakers: Juang and Saora and a Dravidian speaking population, Paroja. These divergent groups provide a varied substratum for understanding variation of genetic patterns in a geographical area resulting from differential admixture between migrants groups and aboriginals, and the influence of this admixture on population stratification.
Results
The allele distribution pattern showed uniformity in the studied groups with approximately 81% genetic variability within populations. The coefficient of gene differentiation was found to be significantly higher in tribes (0.014) than caste groups (0.004). Genetic variance between the groups was 0.34% in both ethnic and linguistic clusters and statistically significant only in the ethnic apportionment. Although the populations were genetically close (FST = 0.010), the contemporary caste and tribal groups formed distinct clusters in both Principal-Component plot and Neighbor-Joining tree. In the phylogenetic tree, the Orissa Brahmins showed close affinity to populations of North India, while Khandayat and Gope clustered with the tribal groups, suggesting a possibility of their origin from indigenous people.
Conclusions
The extent of genetic differentiation in the contemporary caste and tribal groups of Orissa is highly significant and constitutes two distinct genetic clusters. Based on our observations, we suggest that since genetic distances and coefficient of gene differentiation were fairly small, the studied populations are indeed genetically similar and that the genetic structure of populations in a geographical region is primarily influenced by their ancestry and not by socio-cultural hierarchy or language. The scenario of genetic structure, however, might be different for other regions of the subcontinent where populations have more similar ethnic and linguistic backgrounds and there might be variations in the patterns of .
I knew that it would be this. This theory attacks the concept of "race" as a definition and hence the resulting racism ( based on color). Essentially it boils down to what we mean by race. And dear friend ...Next U would state that since we all trace back to a single father ...We cant belong to different races.
"National Banks in India have a similar structure as the Navy whereby people lived in spcial colonies that had people from different parts of the country and hence lended them the oppurtunity to know different cultures. That had nothing to do with staying in a city or village. It had more to do with moving from one end of the country to another"
Exactly...In a city U would find people who either come from different parts of the country OR have diverse origins. Thatz what U see in universities as well.
"You still haven't proven to me How a person who has lived all his life in the city is less bigotted and more "open" as you have called it."
Simple - Which one has more diversity - city OR village ?
If U agree that itz city and people do bump into each other (which U cant just sweep under the carpet)there are more chances of learning about different cultures and an equal probability to get sensitized. Now in my view that leads to "openness" BUT in Ur case itz non-existent. Stale-mate ?
Exactly...In a city U would find people who either come from different parts of the country OR have diverse origins. Thatz what U see in universities as well.
"You still haven't proven to me How a person who has lived all his life in the city is less bigotted and more "open" as you have called it."
Simple - Which one has more diversity - city OR village ?
If U agree that itz city and people do bump into each other (which U cant just sweep under the carpet)there are more chances of learning about different cultures and an equal probability to get sensitized. Now in my view that leads to "openness" BUT in Ur case itz non-existent. Stale-mate ?
"And um....you will generally go by what is meant by race ( that is, what is distinguished by skin color). "
Dear friend ...Now this is a classical example of following the superficial and the "herd mentality" which U were mentioning about.
Dear friend ...Now this is a classical example of following the superficial and the "herd mentality" which U were mentioning about.
"And I am not talking about Ancestry. I am talking about present day India. Where are the Aryans and the Dravidians as distinct visible races as they claim."
My feeling is that U picked that "race" bit as a "rhetoric" tool once again which U so relish. Now U find Urself trapped in the muddle. Gud Luk.
My feeling is that U picked that "race" bit as a "rhetoric" tool once again which U so relish. Now U find Urself trapped in the muddle. Gud Luk.
"And I am from the CITY. And race is a modern thought. And race is something a person in the city is aware of. And hence they ALSO fall into the "herd mentality"...just like in the villages."
🙂...Nobody is perfect dear friend. U find wimps among men too.
🙂...Nobody is perfect dear friend. U find wimps among men too.
"Phew!!! That took me like what 7 pages to make you see this simple and basic fact."
U missed it again. One would not make a dozen. 🙂
U missed it again. One would not make a dozen. 🙂
LOL...If a herd is following Jesus ..I wont mind it. 🙂
hehe...But Jesus didnot. 😛
Anywayz ...it was a marathon debate ! 🙂
Anywayz ...it was a marathon debate ! 🙂
Tired warriors complimenting each other 😛
Well...Jesus wasnt a bigot for sure. In fact he was crucified by those who were.
His followers were definitely bigots at one point of time. So is the case in Islam. Even hinduism suffered in the medival ages from the same malady. Strange.
Well...Jesus wasnt a bigot for sure. In fact he was crucified by those who were.
His followers were definitely bigots at one point of time. So is the case in Islam. Even hinduism suffered in the medival ages from the same malady. Strange.
Which brings me to deduce - that U may have to move toward agnosticism to be more open. I know it sounds absurd...But I am having that strange feeling.
Yeah that soundz appropriate. But U can assert that coz U may be having a higher level of intellect. Factors like education , level of prosperity etc can also play a major role. Not everybody is equipped to chart an independent course. Hence bigotry.
I read GITA. Some of it is there on my profile as well. And itz a guiding light for me.
"Frankly, non Americans have never understood us and never will. Nobody voted for George Bush they voted AGAINST Kerry."
Yeah, I already said it, and I'm not American.
Yeah, I already said it, and I'm not American.
"I find the tone of this question insulting. "
Yes it was meant to be. Insult is a provocation which in many cases brings out the worst(also) which can be analysed further.
" Half of Americans don't trust Kerry or the Democratic party anymore. "
Are U sure ...even aft the recent election debacle for GOP ?
Thatz sweeping and smacks of ignorance. Not that being so radical is a crime..just that being objective helps U do better.
"We will go our own way, cast aspersions on our intelligence, beliefs, and tastes all you want...but you will never understand who we are as a people. "
Perhaps...mostly the evidence is empirical. No aspersions were cast on intelligence in generic sense...it was about one collective choice made by less than 48% of populace in 2000.
Yes it was meant to be. Insult is a provocation which in many cases brings out the worst(also) which can be analysed further.
" Half of Americans don't trust Kerry or the Democratic party anymore. "
Are U sure ...even aft the recent election debacle for GOP ?
Thatz sweeping and smacks of ignorance. Not that being so radical is a crime..just that being objective helps U do better.
"We will go our own way, cast aspersions on our intelligence, beliefs, and tastes all you want...but you will never understand who we are as a people. "
Perhaps...mostly the evidence is empirical. No aspersions were cast on intelligence in generic sense...it was about one collective choice made by less than 48% of populace in 2000.
Good to see the thread circle back to the topic.
solitas777 - your views on Europeans are fairly typical of those of us in the states. I think you are making the same error that you accuse the non-Americans of. Not truly understanding the complex issues at play.
On a macro level, we here in states is losing our competitive advantage to Europe and Asia. Just look at how the US Dollars continue to free fall against the Euro and the Asian currencies. The reason our currency is weakening is because we are losing our competitiveness relative to the rest of the world. We are trading more and more of our assets for stuff that we love to consume, then toss out. A non-sustainable trade-off.
Now, our assets (companies, real estate, bonds) are losing their appeal. So I suggest you take a hard look. The only reason we don't have 10% + inflation and 15% interest rates is because Europeans and Asians continue to subsidize our spending and life style . So let's give credit and a little appreciation where it's due.
If you doubt me, go read the Wall Street Journal. That's an excellent conservative news source on how our country has lost its competitiveness even in the last bastion of our "capitalistic" empire. Our financial exchanges are losing the race to win new IPO and new company listings to Asia and Europe.
solitas777 - your views on Europeans are fairly typical of those of us in the states. I think you are making the same error that you accuse the non-Americans of. Not truly understanding the complex issues at play.
On a macro level, we here in states is losing our competitive advantage to Europe and Asia. Just look at how the US Dollars continue to free fall against the Euro and the Asian currencies. The reason our currency is weakening is because we are losing our competitiveness relative to the rest of the world. We are trading more and more of our assets for stuff that we love to consume, then toss out. A non-sustainable trade-off.
Now, our assets (companies, real estate, bonds) are losing their appeal. So I suggest you take a hard look. The only reason we don't have 10% + inflation and 15% interest rates is because Europeans and Asians continue to subsidize our spending and life style . So let's give credit and a little appreciation where it's due.
If you doubt me, go read the Wall Street Journal. That's an excellent conservative news source on how our country has lost its competitiveness even in the last bastion of our "capitalistic" empire. Our financial exchanges are losing the race to win new IPO and new company listings to Asia and Europe.
This all happened under the watch of George Bush. If had spent the $ 300 billion on infrastruture and internal investments instead of blowing up another country on the other side of the world, then cultivated the political capital we earned in the aftermath of 9/11, I can assure you the US's competitive advantage will be that much stronger today.
You know what our primary competitive advantage is? It's not the vaunted manufacturing base of this country, or our hard working people. Rather, it's the perception of our ability to protect the assets and lives of people who chose to put their lives and their money here. They can trust our legal and financial systems. With all the trampling of civil liberties in the name of security and all the fear mongering by the current administration (yes - a bottle of water will be more of a threat compared to the liquid nitrogen they are shipping in the cargo hold), how do you expect the world to now trust their assets with us? We have a president and administration waging fear mongering to win elections, the price is paid for in blood by those americans who had nothing to gain but everything to lose.
You know what our primary competitive advantage is? It's not the vaunted manufacturing base of this country, or our hard working people. Rather, it's the perception of our ability to protect the assets and lives of people who chose to put their lives and their money here. They can trust our legal and financial systems. With all the trampling of civil liberties in the name of security and all the fear mongering by the current administration (yes - a bottle of water will be more of a threat compared to the liquid nitrogen they are shipping in the cargo hold), how do you expect the world to now trust their assets with us? We have a president and administration waging fear mongering to win elections, the price is paid for in blood by those americans who had nothing to gain but everything to lose.
Amen Tazman?
Love your comments..
Love your comments..
Tazman ...Well articulated I must say.
Therez one crucial competitive advantage which U missed - Attitude.
US still has that edge.
Therez one crucial competitive advantage which U missed - Attitude.
US still has that edge.
Therez one crucial competitive advantage which U missed - Attitude.
US still has that edge.
for how long..??
US still has that edge.
for how long..??
As long as others dont correct theirs.
The point is that the Americans may not treat others that kindly but are largely civilized within.
Whereas others keep themselves busy hurting each other. Do we actually care about our community ...actually ?
The point is that the Americans may not treat others that kindly but are largely civilized within.
Whereas others keep themselves busy hurting each other. Do we actually care about our community ...actually ?
Tazman,
Well said, I like your style . I pretty much agree with everything you said except one thing. I think that our loss of economic advantage started prior to GWB. The sustained downward trend in most of the areas of the marked we have now and a couple of others was measurably apparent about 6 months before GWB took office. I don't want to blame Clinton, because I don't want the debate to be about that but the trend started while he was still in office. I don't think that the reasons are by fault of the administration, I think that our shift from manufacturing to service was catching up with us at that point and the market was starting to lose the footing it gained after the fall of Soviet Russia and as China and many European countries economies hit full tilt. Factor in the fact that they kept up and in most cases sped up their economic rise and the questions surrounding many natural resources which is huge for our consumer economy and a lot of non-political yet influenced by politics factors are having a big effect.
I am with the statement that most of us who voted for Bush were really voting against Kerry. I believe GWB would be a huge sucess if he concentrated the persistance he has for this war on Iraq on other foriegn and domestic affairs. The amount of money we have spent on a war we are fighting pathetically, regardless of it's moral standing is epic and will be a major point of debate for our childrend and possibly their children. I am not an expert but I fear that we set ourselves up for a possible escalated confrontation that we can not sustain due to thinned military resources and the current lack of cohesiveness between Americans on use of force in general after this Iraq thing.
Well said, I like your style . I pretty much agree with everything you said except one thing. I think that our loss of economic advantage started prior to GWB. The sustained downward trend in most of the areas of the marked we have now and a couple of others was measurably apparent about 6 months before GWB took office. I don't want to blame Clinton, because I don't want the debate to be about that but the trend started while he was still in office. I don't think that the reasons are by fault of the administration, I think that our shift from manufacturing to service was catching up with us at that point and the market was starting to lose the footing it gained after the fall of Soviet Russia and as China and many European countries economies hit full tilt. Factor in the fact that they kept up and in most cases sped up their economic rise and the questions surrounding many natural resources which is huge for our consumer economy and a lot of non-political yet influenced by politics factors are having a big effect.
I am with the statement that most of us who voted for Bush were really voting against Kerry. I believe GWB would be a huge sucess if he concentrated the persistance he has for this war on Iraq on other foriegn and domestic affairs. The amount of money we have spent on a war we are fighting pathetically, regardless of it's moral standing is epic and will be a major point of debate for our childrend and possibly their children. I am not an expert but I fear that we set ourselves up for a possible escalated confrontation that we can not sustain due to thinned military resources and the current lack of cohesiveness between Americans on use of force in general after this Iraq thing.
George W Bush got elected as US president twice.
What does that say about the americans ...their tastes, beliefs and IQ ?
I actually like Bush, GA.
His position doesn't mean much, just a figure-head. Congress runs the U.S., not Bush.
So, since his say doesn't mean anything, I look at him as a person, rather than a President and he likes dogs so he's cool.
Congress . . . there lies the problem. Congress made up from The Senate and The House. Now that Dems are taking over congress, we'll see what kind of changes are made.
Get the damn lawyers out of Congress and put the simple man in there who actually cares about mankind - all mankind - and the world would see a different America. So long as the Congress is made up of money-mongers . . the world will see our arrogant and greedy side.
What does that say about the americans ...their tastes, beliefs and IQ ?
I actually like Bush, GA.
His position doesn't mean much, just a figure-head. Congress runs the U.S., not Bush.
So, since his say doesn't mean anything, I look at him as a person, rather than a President and he likes dogs so he's cool.
Congress . . . there lies the problem. Congress made up from The Senate and The House. Now that Dems are taking over congress, we'll see what kind of changes are made.
Get the damn lawyers out of Congress and put the simple man in there who actually cares about mankind - all mankind - and the world would see a different America. So long as the Congress is made up of money-mongers . . the world will see our arrogant and greedy side.
lol, too many zanax at one time will do this to people.
Tell you the truth, GA . . I don't really care.
Politics isn't something I participate in . . I just let my husband handle that stuff.
I guess from the responsers, that I'm suppose to be offended because you are attempting to insult Americans . . oh well . . shoot (just tell me when to duck)
Politics isn't something I participate in . . I just let my husband handle that stuff.
I guess from the responsers, that I'm suppose to be offended because you are attempting to insult Americans . . oh well . . shoot (just tell me when to duck)
"I guess from the responsers, that I'm suppose to be offended because you are attempting to insult Americans "
Well PA...It was supposed to be provocative at least. And itz not that Americans cant be insulted. In fact that brings out another point of contention - Why people feel insulted...take umbrage and liken it to racism ?
If any white here says anything/sneers against Asians...people start getting offended. I have been interviewing a cross-section and people find Americans to be rude, outspoken,selfish and overly loud. I see it differently as in perhaps Americans are confrontationists by nature and are misunderstood at times.They take pride in what they have achieved and arent the types who remain humble.It may simply be a trait and not a sign of oppressive tendencies. Again they may find it difficult to find merit in and accept anybody elses POV since their methods are proven and have yielded results in the past. One doesnt have to feel romped compulsarily...If U want to contradict the incumbent...Just deliver better outcomes. And frankly , for Amrericans one of the success factor has been that they are quick at adopting the meritorius without any bias.
Indeed they may be highly individualistic in nature and appear self-obsessed, with their political represntatives rolling out policies which are self-serving often bringing grief to world community at large.
And any abuse which is hurled at U shudnt necessarily bring out the hidden antipathy.In my view an insult is not going to kill Ur esteem if U r resilient enough and it should be treated in manner more circumspect.
Well PA...It was supposed to be provocative at least. And itz not that Americans cant be insulted. In fact that brings out another point of contention - Why people feel insulted...take umbrage and liken it to racism ?
If any white here says anything/sneers against Asians...people start getting offended. I have been interviewing a cross-section and people find Americans to be rude, outspoken,selfish and overly loud. I see it differently as in perhaps Americans are confrontationists by nature and are misunderstood at times.They take pride in what they have achieved and arent the types who remain humble.It may simply be a trait and not a sign of oppressive tendencies. Again they may find it difficult to find merit in and accept anybody elses POV since their methods are proven and have yielded results in the past. One doesnt have to feel romped compulsarily...If U want to contradict the incumbent...Just deliver better outcomes. And frankly , for Amrericans one of the success factor has been that they are quick at adopting the meritorius without any bias.
Indeed they may be highly individualistic in nature and appear self-obsessed, with their political represntatives rolling out policies which are self-serving often bringing grief to world community at large.
And any abuse which is hurled at U shudnt necessarily bring out the hidden antipathy.In my view an insult is not going to kill Ur esteem if U r resilient enough and it should be treated in manner more circumspect.
First things first ...My name is Gaurav which is not the same as guava LOL
And I am from India.
" how many "americans" you interviewed"
No I did not interview any American ...but some asians and britishers.
"the hardest working population too. "
I would say one of the hardest...then U have chinese, japanese and Indians. And compared to europeans especially.
"we arent lazy and we are generous! "
Are U trying to somehow convey that U do all the hard work , earn money and then donate/feed others and so others shud keep their mouths shut ?
And I am from India.
" how many "americans" you interviewed"
No I did not interview any American ...but some asians and britishers.
"the hardest working population too. "
I would say one of the hardest...then U have chinese, japanese and Indians. And compared to europeans especially.
"we arent lazy and we are generous! "
Are U trying to somehow convey that U do all the hard work , earn money and then donate/feed others and so others shud keep their mouths shut ?
"people find Americans to be rude, outspoken,selfish and overly loud"
Yes, this seems apparant to me after being in here for several years. Americans DO behave differently than others. I'm not sure why . . perhaps it is this pride thing. For example, look at suvant . . she is proud and not humbled. So, are you saying, that from your observations, non-Americans help others in this world in a more quiet manner? And we, on the other hand . . yes, I can see that . . eewwww, that is bad, isn't it? Ego . . it's all ego, GA.
But, you know . . I don't think we even know it. Since we are all this way, it seems normal, natural.
Like a big ass lion at the top of the food chain . . devour. Is that how it seems to you?
Actually, I feel pride for everything Americans have done in this world, good and bad. And, I like W. Bush, for the man he is . . it's not likely that my opinions will change, however, I am aware that non-americans view us with disdain because of him.
Yes, this seems apparant to me after being in here for several years. Americans DO behave differently than others. I'm not sure why . . perhaps it is this pride thing. For example, look at suvant . . she is proud and not humbled. So, are you saying, that from your observations, non-Americans help others in this world in a more quiet manner? And we, on the other hand . . yes, I can see that . . eewwww, that is bad, isn't it? Ego . . it's all ego, GA.
But, you know . . I don't think we even know it. Since we are all this way, it seems normal, natural.
Like a big ass lion at the top of the food chain . . devour. Is that how it seems to you?
Actually, I feel pride for everything Americans have done in this world, good and bad. And, I like W. Bush, for the man he is . . it's not likely that my opinions will change, however, I am aware that non-americans view us with disdain because of him.
Suvant...
Pull out those rosy glasses and check these sites... see if you still babbling about ?how generous we are?.
Do you like charts and graphs..??
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
and then ..
http://www.godweb.org/stingy2.htm
You'll notice that in proportion, in 2003, the US ranks 22 of developed countries and gives a measly .14 of its GDP as "Official Development Assistance" to the rest of the world, well behind Norway's .92 per cent topping the list and Denmark's .84 per cent in the number two position.
Ever heard of this side of the truth..?? Why Norwegian or other European countries are NOT as loud as Americans are genius..??.... What those celebrities in US give is not the matter of GENEROSITY but the matter of PUBLICITY?!
In other word? SHOWING OFF?!!
then..
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2676
And hundreds of thousands of other links all over the net, get off your ?O, Brave America? ass and face the truth for a change?!
Btw how come an ignorant bushit like you, start talking against him—
He is not playing the exotic tune to your messianic ass anymore..?
Lmao?.
Pull out those rosy glasses and check these sites... see if you still babbling about ?how generous we are?.
Do you like charts and graphs..??
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
and then ..
http://www.godweb.org/stingy2.htm
You'll notice that in proportion, in 2003, the US ranks 22 of developed countries and gives a measly .14 of its GDP as "Official Development Assistance" to the rest of the world, well behind Norway's .92 per cent topping the list and Denmark's .84 per cent in the number two position.
Ever heard of this side of the truth..?? Why Norwegian or other European countries are NOT as loud as Americans are genius..??.... What those celebrities in US give is not the matter of GENEROSITY but the matter of PUBLICITY?!
In other word? SHOWING OFF?!!
then..
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2676
And hundreds of thousands of other links all over the net, get off your ?O, Brave America? ass and face the truth for a change?!
Btw how come an ignorant bushit like you, start talking against him—
He is not playing the exotic tune to your messianic ass anymore..?
Lmao?.
Obesity of 40% of US populations talks a LOUD about a hard working nation?.!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity
Scroll down to Environmental factors and read more?
Now compare the images of a "fat bastard generous and hard working American", to a hard working male or female in less ?economically fortunate? countries?!!
You have every right to lying to yourself and believing the fairytales of your choice?. But don't compare the stupid she bitch ?Angelina Jolie? or ?Oprah? to ?mother Teresa?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity
Scroll down to Environmental factors and read more?
Now compare the images of a "fat bastard generous and hard working American", to a hard working male or female in less ?economically fortunate? countries?!!
You have every right to lying to yourself and believing the fairytales of your choice?. But don't compare the stupid she bitch ?Angelina Jolie? or ?Oprah? to ?mother Teresa?.
Then get back your cave and shut the fuck up... As I always told you... do you really have to trash this nice topic with your stupid agendas..?? BITCH..??
I didn't know that she bitch.. err she male like you could go that far.. but hey.. you want to challenge me.. make a topic.. I'll be happy to fuck you out in your own topic asshole..
Don't trash other people's posts..
I didn't know that she bitch.. err she male like you could go that far.. but hey.. you want to challenge me.. make a topic.. I'll be happy to fuck you out in your own topic asshole..
Don't trash other people's posts..
Attention WHORE... is that what you are? ! WITH YOUR CAPITAL LETTERS TENDENCIES.. BITCH?
Be real? since you don't have life..!
Be real? since you don't have life..!
blow yourself
Right....... anything more asshole..??
Get back toy your cave..!
Bah.. lol..
Right....... anything more asshole..??
Get back toy your cave..!
Bah.. lol..
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