How to bait and catch a cusp sign

So here's the delma, girl meets boy, girl takes boy home after concert and talk all night about everything, anything and nothing at all. Girl gets call from friends and girl and boy go to the beach, and spend another amazing day together. Chance encounter mutual friends imform other friends that girl is at another show same place. girl and boy get happily drunk and decide to date. lots of distance, time passes we call it sorta quits after a month and a half. Guy begins psychodic messaging exactly once every ten days.... this continues for 3 months til girl says finally 'no i dont wanna hangout'. btw the entire couple of months he messages we never meet or speak verbally, just txt. finally when girl says forget it, boy freaks and says 'i didnt wanna lead you on, blah blah blah'.

girl finally meets new guy, starts weird fun relationship, at highest emotional breaking point with new boi (taurus boy), old boy starts messaging like a mad man saying we need to meet.... over 30 messages and 10 phone calls, much more than he has ever had during there relationship. they meet, kiss and he sleeps over. he continues to txt, but girl just ends up avoiding it for months..... that happened in december 2006, its oct. girl gives up on taurus boi and finally agrees to meet other boy. he happens to be a libra / scorpio cusp sign, girl happens to be a aires/ taurus.

we had an amazing night and spent the entire tim wraped up in each other. he teased and pissed me off, yet knows exactly how to fix it and pull me close to him.

now the question, how do i catch the same man who when i was attached to barely came around and now its been 2 days. how do i keep him interested and how do i catch the uncatchable libra/scorpio?

You can't catch anyone who doesn't want to be caught.

Aries/Taurus girl...you're sending a lot of mixed messages. First thing to do is clear up that ambiguity. Second thing....a scorpio is hard to deal with, a libra is hard to deal with...I cant imagine the challenges a cusp present...are yu sure you wouldn't rather just go for a Pisces? lol

lolz. Ok yea, i've heard its a difficulty, but i just need to know! where did i go wrong the first time and how do i fix it the second time? or can someone explain to me what i missed. its like one day every things great happiness all around, next day he disappears like ninja and then i get a text message exactly every 7 -10 days for 3 months. Then one day when im finally over him and onto someone else, he texts me like a mad man and then calls me 20 times. does he have a homing device to just happen to 'know' when im just about getting over and forgetting him, that he must message me—— there after he proceeds to avoid me for one month, then starts obsessively message me every 7-10 days and i refuse to respond, avoid him at parties. then finally 3 days ago i confront him and actually have a decent conversation with him and end up hanging out with him the entire night. where we cuddle and kiss like that first time last year!

Am i doomed to forever hear from him and never find out why he wont stay? i feel like a kitten thats been teased with a sting, constantly teased and never accepted for the adorably free spirited girl that i am. It's not just the catching, its the finding out why when someones so great and u constantly say your amazing and the coolest chick around, and yet never anymore more? its like he has a lot of female friends and has introduced me as his gf b4, so whats the issue? why the pull and push and why do i have to kill myself over why when i call he wont respond and when he does, i have to or he'll call and pester me?

are all libra men always so distant and do all scorpios have to keep u on ur toes? or is it the other way around. its like i've looked it up and i've heard when a libra really likes u, he'll constantly come to u... well last i checked he has.... so whats the deal?

does any of that make sense?

"the grass is always greener" he's always gonna need a reminder as to why he does, or does not, want to be with you. their pendulums will easily sway either way back and forth. the fact that he's a scorpio just makes shit more dramatic.

your first story was a bit confusing. the second cleared things up but where does the taurus fall into the story?

i agree with antibling... there seems to be alot not said.

alrighty fine, heres the whole story....

last summer met a hottie mc hot hot (the libra scorpio), we caught each others eyes and went home together, we stayed up all night into the morning cuddling in every direction and talk about anything, everything and dumbshit u would only talk about to ur closest friends. then long story short we started dating and then weeks later we broke it off, with the ever so parting words of 'theres just to much going on in work, school etc, so sry i havent been around blah blah blah'. so i broke it off being the impatient little punk-ass Taurus aires that i am. I figured it was all excuses and said screw that. so a month goes by, he goes on tour i start looking for another guy, then when he gets back he starts messaging me again. always messaging me when i start liking someone new, and then makes me forget about the other person. he does this every couple of days and says 'we should hangout', im like 'yea sure'..... he never invites me out, nor calls, only texts.... sound a bit fishy?

So finally its december, i meet an amazing taurus / aires boy, smart funny, adorably sweet, beautiful green eyes. we pick up hot and heavy, then finally at its highest peak and he starts messaging me.... drastically to the point that u'd be wondering what had happened to him to need to have my cell ringing off the hook. then my phone starts ringing.... actually ringing signaling that someones calling me... i dont answer.... he continues... finally its annoying, im curious and he says he needs to see me, NOW. so i agree and decide to meet up with him, what could he possably need to see me for at 10pm... i kno hes not drunk, its far to early for him. we meet and its an instant connection all over again. he comes over, we hangout my sisters ruins out 'thing' and he ends up hanging out the entire night. nothing happens just shit talking.... im a bit resentful of him.

So finally i ditch him, completely out of sight out of mind. i say forget it, my taurus boys awesome why should i waste my time thinking of someone who doesnt call (i.e. he didnt talk to me for 2 weeks after he came over... odd but begins messaging me yet again). so finally my bf thinks this guys ruining our relationship, i stop answering messages and start devoting time to my initial bf. Still questiosn go around my mind about the libra boy, why does he have to get me, why is he the only one whos just understood my habits and normalcies?

So it continues on that i avoid him, he still messages, slowly he stops about less than a month ago. Then i end up at a show, for halloween, we see each other, hes with a bunch of girls i dont wanna bother him.... i wont be the one who talks first. Then the night draws out, he stares at me a bit, its almost 1am, i finally give up and talk to him. We talk, we kiss, and somehow we end up at his house, we talk into the night like every time b4. we're all cuddly and sweet, we both black out and wake up early the next morning. I don't know what i feel for him, i dont understand why he always gravitates toward me nor do i understand what his deal is about not calling me. O yea i forgot to mention it, but he called me 3 weeks b4 the concert concerned if i had moved... somebody told him that... how odd. So yea thats my story, hes wishy washy, hes distant and then a total dick with teasing me, and then overly sweet to 'apologize' for it. hes a pull a push, he'll crack a joke at me, then hug, kiss me and just stand still with me. it doesnt make sense, he says im the world, im his life partner.... then nothing but silence. now if that doesnt make sense, then u now understand why i need help.

Pretty much, i wish he i could get him to talk more, even if i didnt end up with him, i wish i could understand why he has to be so wonderful and then horribly distant. for a scorpio wouldnt they been more clingy? and a libra.... we have so many things in common, it doesnt make sense why we keep up a game

i just figure, why not tell me to go away if u dont wanna be with me, or tell me its a fling if thats all u want... wouldnt that make more sense?

hid post above because of misreading and probably poor advice.

phoenixblaze26: "so finally my bf thinks this guys ruining our relationship"

yeah... i would imagine that he's got a point there.

So far the topic in your mind seems solely on this Libra boi. I point this out because YOU need to know what you want. It sounds like you either really love this Libra... that or your infatuated by him. Also, it seems like you go back to the Taurus as your way of coping with rejection. There must be some reason your keeping him around...

reading this I am to assume they know of each other...I'm curious as to why Taurus boy is still around if he knows of Libra and visa versa... perhaps he knows of him and not exactly about him? If that is true, a partner may start to feel like the third wheel in their own relationship and build resentment for their partner. This might end up back lashing at you... so you need to make up your mind with him.

As for libra, why buy the cow when the milk is free...? It sounds like he's perfectly comfortable with where you are now. Maybe its not your traditional relationship, but this seems to be the "fling" you were asking for. Thats the only conclusion I could come up with based on the info given.

have you tried calling him? if he were to call you now and say "be with me" would you? have you made what you both want vocalized to each other?

I think I have almost enough information to come up with good advice for you...

I'll be direct with you, so im sorry if i come off as rude...

you mention you had a relationship with Libra before.

obviously your both attracted to each other, your both comfortable with each other... but maybe too comfortable. comfortable with the idea that every month or so all he has to do is get you to talk to him and your putty. rinse. repeat.

your doing the catch and release correctly, but when it comes to the point of interaction, it seems that you drop the ball and lose sight of your goal (ie. you put out!). Granted you get to release some sexual frustration (and who doesn't wanna have sex!! honestly!?), but you need to look at the long term goal. have fun, meet up and LEAVE! get him comfortable with that idea! build his frustration (waves bone in face), pull back when he leaps for it(nuh uh uh! siiiitt!!!), and reward him LIGHTLY for his patience with a treat (good doggie!). And that is how you TRAIN the dog to sway in your favor. otherwise that dog is gonna bark and bark and bark till you give in... as you proved to always do... from there you can work out something a little more stable.

In my opinion this seems like a "grass is greener" type of situation to be perfectly honest. I just don't understand the story enough to come up with that conclusion.

Why the game? Are you calling / text messaging him? Is he calling / text messaging you? how often? What are you two talking about when you meet up? (anything relevant to your relationship?) Have you both vocalized your wants for each other? when did he call you his g/f? recently?

and where does taurus boi fall into this love triangle of yours? you speak so highly of him in 2 sentences and he's never mentioned again. Whats the deal with him and why are you with him? do you want to be with him?

lol and sorry for the essay response... I have a similar story to tell so i can relate. I hope my advice can help you make sense of this situation and in some way I can make sense of mine. =P

Let me guess, you're on the Aries side of the cusp?

If the relationship isn't how you would want it to be move on. As simple as that.

Personally, I'm not for getting jerked around. I'm a sweet and giving girl, but I'm fair. You treat me like a queen and you'll be my king. And if necessary... i'll do what it takes to even the odds.... woof =P

I second that

If you feel you are the only one doing the giving/making an effort, then you probably are.

I wasn't talking about her situation persay I was saying in general. No one should feel they are the one who's doing all the work in any relationship and if you feel you are then you're probably not getting any effort from the other party. A relationship consist of 2 people therefor 2 people have to contribute in order to have a solid foundation. One person can't have emotions/feelings for both parties. Either you both are on the same page or you're not.

lol I was responding to Cancergal07's comment. Its not good to assume you know what they say about that... but its all good just pay a little more attention before you respond to comments next time.

lol You responding to me isn't conducive to the subject at hand...

Not conducive to the subject at hand...

So sorry it took so long to respond, just finally got online to read everyones input. cancergal u have a good point, i havent mentioned why the taurus boi is around. yea i've probably put him through hell and back, but his stories a little more interesting.

so taurus boi, was once engaged... correction was was one of my best friends who i usually drank with and talked about love, sex, and life as we like it. he is very handsome, has green eyes and in all honestly probably the sweetest, kindest boi on this god given planet. BUT... he is part aires.... he is a JEALOUS, POSSESIVE, invasive, EMOTIONALLY manipulative man who does not understand the word personal S-P-A-C-E.

so yea to sum it up he'd be the most wonderful man to marry... if i wanted to get married and have a tracking device attached to my hip... yea whatever. i mean dont get me wrong, i do love him deeply... but how much can u say the words 'I love you' and mean it without eventually becomming exhausted? its like i love him, i've avoided the libra like a mad man for him, and i truly felt for the libra but one of them had to go. taurus boi has a plan, has a life, he gives me all of the things i always wanted in a man.... but i think the fight in me is dying, im exhausted with the fighting and 'why cant u be like this', 'why can u stop doing that'. the guy makes me stop being me and start being mrs. betty crocker... i've learned to cook, clean, and balance a check book more so then i ever had before. i've even learned how to plaster and paint a room and put up sheet rock!

even as im writing this, i know theres a chance that he can look me up and find this. i hate not being able to speak my mind and just be me... theres somethings i cant deal with and snooping is one

oh yea and just for the record..... I haven't slept with the libra since last summer, I am sleep over his house, but i've yet to let him get a real taste of me. Atleast i get that from being a taurus! i definately know the catch and release, i wait til he approaches me, why should i be the one to let done my guard and through it all out there. some part of me wants to just give up, i find myself wanting to just be alone, not in the sense of just dating around, but just alone because i'm tired of being in one relationship and getting distance, then going into another and getting shot for who i am.

lol thats the Taurus for you. Yep it doesn't sound like you would be happy with the life you'd have with him. Its the weekend so get out there and meet someone new!

Yea it is the weekend, i just have and havent made a decision. We decided to decently work out our differences and just figure each other out. His ex made him feel the way hes made me feel (the taurus...whos ex was a leo). So we're just trying to work something out, i mean we were best friends for over a year, his ex hated me.... we never did anything and then once she was gone he kissed me... and thats where we started. so he knows all my history... thats probably where the bad blood starts.

oh yea and the taurus boi knows about the libra and he wants him dead... i used to talk about the libra to him when we were friends. and it just so happens he remembers EVERYTHING.... why me....

and libra knows about him, but this im just bsing about there being someone else.

Oh well it sounds like you and the bull should just be friends. The fact that he knows your relationship history with other guys is probably where the bad blood is. I wouldn't persue a relationship with him I would just be his friend which it doesn't seem like you would be happy in a serious relationship with him anyway.

ya know, you're probably right, but that would never work. its either we fix what we have, or walk out forever. with the him, everythings a finale. cant just live my life without having a reason. so thats why the taurus boi wasnt mentioned, he wants answers and its not that i dont love him, but i'd love him more if things just worked all the time.

and libra knows about him, but this im just bsing about there being someone else

huh?

I told him when i started dating taurus boi, and he totally played it off like i was trying to make him jealous. i'm like... right.... ok whatever.... then the next time i see him my boyfriend shos up to the club and gets into a huge fight with some guy my sister was going after, cuz he thought he was the libra... ironic.

obviously the taurus is no good for you. why your giving it another shot is beyond me, but hey, i do believe in second chances. The fact that you went for libra WHILE you were dating Taurus shows that Taurus is doing something wrong. maybe your both not giving each other something. better find out what those things are. If you truly are serious about giving it another shot, dont go in expecting the thing to fall. give it your all and be yourself. see how it goes and dont jump the gun. if things are still failing then just drop it.

And libra sounds flakey but he gives you excitment. He sounds like a busy guy and you'd better get used to your life revolving around him if you want things to happen. in short... he's probably not as interested as you are. The game is gonna have to go on a bit longer if you really want that to work, your just gonna have to be patient.

I personally think you should just go find someone completely new. Or as you said. take some down time and figure yourself out. Do you want someone who loves you more than you do, someone you love more than they do, or simply someone else? time changes everything, feelings change and nothing stands still. everything is constantly in motion so be sure to keep up with everything

lol what!? you need these men out of your lives!!!

so yea, i guess i'll just have to wait and see