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Posted by little_sparrow
lol!

If she had aborted me, I would never know and life would go on just as it always has.



My sentiments exactly. I don't believe the world would be any better nor worse if I weren't a part of it. I don't have any delusions of grandeur that I make any bit of difference to the WORLD as a whole, and were I not here, nobody would have ever known anyway.
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Posted by james tate
I guess what gets me is your not making the decission for yourself your making it for someone elses life. Its just an inconvenience for you its a life for5 someone else.



And while I don't disagree with your point, it's also (in my opinion) just as abhorrent to bring a child into this world and then abandon it to be raised within the foster care system/on the street or other forms of neglect. With your same argument, it's not "fair" that the child would be brought into such an unfortunate set of circumstances either. It's not "fair" that they have to suffer and live in abject poverty either. I won't further debate this situation/matter, because as we all know, we all feel/think what we feel/think, and I'm NOT trying to dissuade or change anyone's mind. What I speak is how I feel, not anyone else.
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Posted by james tate
Sorry ladys I don't preach and I don't judge I just have a big problem with this with all the birthcontrol there is there has to be a better way.


Last response, I agree - there are A LOT of birth control options, and still some people find that they are with child even when using them properly because as we know (and Dy pointed out) there is no 100% sure fire birth control EXCEPT abstinence.
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A lot of talk about life, and not really understanding it at all.


Just life ... the ball stops there and no more thought or feeling put into it.


I'm sure a kid who isn't wanted, who is hungry, cold, crying, has bruises, locked in the attic is right there with you, Tate .. you dumbfuck.

You are clueless .. you spout off about life, while you sit in front of your computer screen and know nothing about what is involved with the REAL life an unwanted child.


I;m sure there is a bus running in front of your house ... go step in front of it now.
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you want to see life go where I have gone I spent a lot of time in africa I have seen childern starve a mother there probely got the baby from being raped. talk about a unwanted child (BUT THE MOTHERS FIGHT FOR ALL THERE WORTH TO KEEP THEM ALIVE) don't talk about me you don't know me its the people who live good who do away with there unwanted. Poor people cant pay to get an aboration. Everyday childern die from lack of food poor health conditions. I HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND on the other end OH I AM GOING TO HAVE A BABY IT DOESN"T FIT MY LIFE style SO LETS DESPOSE OF IT. Believe me the afflount kill more babys than the poor. you run your mouth about people on here not knowing about life you are the one rat who hasn't a clue.

She thought she could take a cheap shot because I said enought said.

FUCKING RODENT
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Posted by james tate
you want to see life go where I have gone I spent a lot of time in africa I have seen childern starve a mother there probely got the baby from being raped. talk about a unwanted child (BUT THE MOTHERS FIGHT FOR ALL THERE WORTH TO KEEP THEM ALIVE) don't talk about me you don't know me its the people who live good who do away with there unwanted. Poor people cant pay to get an aboration. Everyday childern die from lack of food poor health conditions. I HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND on the other end OH I AM GOING TO HAVE A BABY IT DOESN"T FIT MY LIFE style SO LETS DESPOSE OF IT. Believe me the afflount kill more babys than the poor. you run your mouth about people on here not knowing about life you are the one rat who hasn't a clue.

She thought she could take a cheap shot because I said enought said.

FUCKING RODENT



You've been to Africa, OMG I've always wanted to go there -- for my own reasons and for documentary purposes.

I know who the comment was aimed towards but I will say that your perspective and mine are different but it's due to the way we have both lived AND due to the way we both look at things.

I respect your whole passage, indeed I do.
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I am telling you you can be grabed held and sold in africa, granted south africa safe, Kenya O.K. but go into some parts of zambezi, Zambia was Rhodesia, some parts of the Malagasy Republic, Mali north of Timbuktu controled by outlaws and slavers, Tanzania childern and women are the trade. so even tho I lov you dearly LS believe me its a bad place to be sometimes. All I am saying is check with your State department before you go.
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"my point is don't bitch about one "right" that was not even a constitutional right in the first place"

Neither was:

-That slavery was wrong
-That women can vote
-That blacks can vote
-The right to bear arms
-Freedom of speech

And I can go on...

None of the above was in the Original constitution. They are amendments.
So, suffice to say, if my "right" to vote was suddenly taken away I would bitch quite loudly, even though it wasn't a right in the first place, Bella.
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I think the rat has a good point.
She was the poster child for abortion and had a sad little life.
How ever she should ask the down and out how they fell about it.
Rat go to the lower end of town and ask all the dregs of humanity how they fell about not having been aborted.
Then ask them if its so bad why haven't they done there selfs in.
As for me steping in front of a coach (thats a bus in english) won't happen
You are the one who doesn't care for life
my mother chose to have this bastard even though she knew It would not be an easy life for me she gave it to me.
I thank her for that.
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Posted by MsPisces.
I just realized it cut me off.


I don't know what world you people live in that you think women give their kids up for adoption, and some wonderful loving family comes in and takes the baby and gives it the wonderful life he/shes mother always wanted for them. Awww how sweet.

But NO. That is total bullshit.. aka the exception. The reality is, that child goes from foster home to foster home (where most of the foster parents are only in it for the money) where they are severely neglected and abused. And guess what? They tend to grow up and repeat those nasty cycles.

So really, for all the pro lifers who would deny a woman's right to choose, put your money where your mouth is and go out and ADOPT one of those babies you care for so much, or else shut the fuck up. Seriously.



True.
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Posted by ScorpDragon
My two cents on the questions:

1. Are you FOR abortion? - Absolutely not. There's no other way to slice it- abortion is wrong, immoral and arrogant to think it is within the realm of human power to end a life.

2. Are you AGAINST abortion? Yes. I think silence on this matter is tactic approval of what is ultimately sanctioned murder.

3. For those in the middle (Disagree with it but see abortion as JUSTIFIED ONLY in certain situations), what do you guys consider to be "EXTREME" circumstances for which abortions are worth considering? (Ex: rape)

Extreme circumstances such as rape, etc. are what they are. They are often complex, with no easy solutions. But in the name of granting mercy or understanding to what is extreme, should we compromise principles and set the bar lower?
Usually when this happens as a matter of public policy, it is used as a LICENSE to justify behavior that otherwise would have some kind of a lid on it, if only a social stigma.

In this case, that translates into abortion being used as a kind of expedient contraception - and it gets couched in language like "a woman's right to choose."







You don't even know what you're talking about.
I hope you'll be a poor raped Women in your next Life. Let's see what your gonna do then 😉
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LIKE I HAVE SAID I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A GOD
I KNOW YOU CAN NOT DICTATE MORALITY TO PEOPLE
BUT IF THIS IS ALL THERE IS THEN
EVERYTHING IN MY MIND DESERVES A SHOT AT IT.
SO IM PRO LIFE
I HAVE TO WOUNDER THE ONES WHO DO ABORT DOES IT BOTHER THEM LATER IN LIFE
IF SO IT MUST BE VERY HARD TO TAKE.
I FEEL FOR THEM
I KNOW EVEN WHEN YOU TAKE A LIFE IN A CAUSE WHERE YOU HAVE NO CHOISE TO DO IT OR DIE YOUR SELF
LATER YOU ALWAY REMEMBER IT
AND IT DOES CAUSE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS.
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Have you ever met a child which escaped abortion, due to a newly introduced anti-abortion law?

Well, meet one now. And I want to say something: FUCK YOU ALL, all of you who passionately defend the "right" to have an abortion. How about the rights of the unborn child?

You think YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO BE BORN, because you were "wanted". On the other hand, people like me and many of my peers, born during the same year, WERE CONDEMNED TO DEATH, simply because some women decided on the heat of the moment, that they're rather dig their head into a sand hole, PRETENDING THAT PREGNANCY NEVER HAPPENED. This could have been the worst decision of their life. My mum regretted all her life for aborting the child conceived after me, on a back-street abortion table.

I tell you something! It doesn't matter which of you were wanted, and which of you weren't, a few weeks after your conception! During our lives, we'll encounter many people who want us, or who don't. In fact, WE UNWANTED CHILDREN may end up being MORE WANTED THAN YOU EVER WERE, you selfish, abortion-pro bastards!

I like it here: this universe, this planet, this time, this body. I'm not here because I was wanted when I was a fetus. I'm here because it's my right to be.

Besides, there are a lot of people happy about me being here, including my ageing mum. I'm sure that's the case for many of my "unwanted-for-a-second" peers which escaped abortion.

FUCK YOU! SELFISH BASTARDS! You were "wanted" as fetuses, now what?

ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE STILL WANTED AS ADULTs? If nobody claims you now, what's in store for you: "extermination law for unwanted adults"? YES? FUCK YOU AND YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS!






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I don't see anything wrong with it. Life is over for all of us in a second if you think about it.

My godfather went to work one day and never came back because he was randomly shot in a alley way.


We think we are so important. We think we are gonna live forever. We think we have forever. People live in this bubble of denial.


We don't get to control if we live or die. Face reality. It's harsh.
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Posted by Undine
Have you ever met a child which escaped abortion, due to a newly introduced anti-abortion law?

Well, meet one now. And I want to say something: FUCK YOU ALL, all of you who passionately defend the "right" to have an abortion. How about the rights of the unborn child?

You think YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO BE BORN, because you were "wanted". On the other hand, people like me and many of my peers, born during the same year, WERE CONDEMNED TO DEATH, simply because some women decided on the heat of the moment, that they're rather dig their head into a sand hole, PRETENDING THAT PREGNANCY NEVER HAPPENED. This could have been the worst decision of their life. My mum regretted all her life for aborting the child conceived after me, on a back-street abortion table.

I tell you something! It doesn't matter which of you were wanted, and which of you weren't, a few weeks after your conception! During our lives, we'll encounter many people who want us, or who don't. In fact, WE UNWANTED CHILDREN may end up being MORE WANTED THAN YOU EVER WERE, you selfish, abortion-pro bastards!

I like it here: this universe, this planet, this time, this body. I'm not here because I was wanted when I was a fetus. I'm here because it's my right to be.

Besides, there are a lot of people happy about me being here, including my ageing mum. I'm sure that's the case for many of my "unwanted-for-a-second" peers which escaped abortion.

FUCK YOU! SELFISH BASTARDS! You were "wanted" as fetuses, now what?

ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE STILL WANTED AS ADULTs? If nobody claims you now, what's in store for you: "extermination law for unwanted adults"? YES? FUCK YOU AND YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS!








AND I SAY FUCK YOU LITTLE STUPID CUNT =)
You DONT KNOW SHIT!
Oh so you were one of those unwanted children huh? 😄
Honey, you talk shit. You dont know what the fuck you are talking about.
I hope everyone in here who is against Abortion will be reborn as one raped poor Girl =)
Girl you need to learn many lessons in life. And I wont waste my Time to explain it to you.
You'll find out someday when you're grown up.
:-)
EVERY WOMAN WHO HAD AN ABORTION SAVED HER CHILD
YOU STUPID FUCKERS :-)


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Posted by MsPisces.
There are not as many people who want to adopt as there are kids who need to be adopted..why create make more largely unwanted orphans?

And if most abortions occur in undeveloped countries, that should tell you something.

And the skull crushing vids are not the norm, as most are not even fetuses yet...unless of course abortions are hard to come by..




Every woman who kills her own unborn baby could be sentenced to work for free (food and shelter) in an orphanage for several years. That will teach them, providing at the same time free care for future human beings.
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Posted by Sag89
I don't see anything wrong with it. Life is over for all of us in a second if you think about it.

My godfather went to work one day and never came back because he was randomly shot in a alley way.

We think we are so important. We think we are gonna live forever. We think we have forever. People live in this bubble of denial.

We don't get to control if we live or die. Face reality. It's harsh.



There are many situations when other people decision allows you to live. That of firemen, doctors, nurses and all sort of rescuers.

There are also situations when people decide that they can't deal with their lethal disease any longer, and beg for assisted suicide.

However, to give ordinary people the right to end life of innocent unborn babies (often just because they represent a temporary inconvenience) is almost as barbaric as the old habit of stoning to death pregnant unmarried women "for their sins". A society should be able to provide food, shelter, care and education for unwanted children, not perpetuate a modified version of those barbaric habits.

If people do not learn TO RESPECT life, no wonder innocent men may get killed without a second thought.
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wow ..... you people take life way too seriously

for some reason, people believe they are a master species .... and certainly, you feel zero guilt for stepping on an ant, or eating a hamburger


It just kills me to listen to hypocrites go apreaching about pro-life and are killers themselves of life.


You know, just because you are human, doesn't mean you are above all other forms of life.



::: shakes head :::



stupid muther fukers
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Overlook Undine .... Pisces tend to relish in being victims.


The reality is ... she talks of her mothers feelings, so she actually has a relationship with her mother, which means = she is wanted.

so, no matter how much she talks about being unwanted, that is false.


:::: shakes head ::::


Pisces people really suck, they are so selfish, they can barely get past themselves
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You stupid fucking piece of shit, I saved my child. I hope you are in this Situation one day you FUCKED UP bitch :-)BUT I GUESS YOUD BE SO SELFISH TO HAVE THE BABY AND BRING IT TO THIS WORLD KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THIS CHILD IS GOING TO SUFFER ALL LIFE! YES YOU WOULD BE THAT SELFISH!!!
I HAVE NO GUILT!
I SAVED MY CHILD :-)MY CHILD LOVES ME BECAUSE I SAVED IT
YOU LITTLE ST?_PID WHORE YOU GOT NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
P ANGEL IS RIGHT - YOU ARE HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR MOTHER SO YOUR WANTED
I KILLED NO ONE I SAVED A HUMAN BEING
YOU WOULDNT DARE TO SAY THIS TO MY FACE :-))))
UGLY PISCES WHORE YOUR ON LEVEL -10 WHEN IT COMES TO KARMA AND SPIRITUALITY!

Don't you dare to call me a Killer again, or I will fly to America and beat your ugly ass or wherever you are! I'm a Mother and always will be and my Child loves me for saving it.
Get raped you stupid fucking whore i hope you will get raped and I hope you will bleed out of your Vagina and I hope you will be alone and no one will be there ! I hope your going to be pregnant and I hope your going to have that child and bring it to a misery Life full of Pain, Sadness and Emotional Manipulation! Then you'll be full of guilt because you were so selfish to bring it in this Life and let it live like this. Then you will use this Guilt on your Child and it will end up having the same emotional Pain and Suffering like you ! WHAT A GOOD MOTHER YOU WILL BE :-)
I KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT YOU LITTLE BITCH YOU GOT NO FUCKING IDEA ABOUT THIS FUCKING LIFE!
OUR SOULS LIVE FOREVER, SO WHEN WE DIE ONLY OUR BODY DIES BUT NEVER OUR SPIRIT!
AND WHO CARES IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME !!!!!!!!! 😄DDD
YOU WILL SEE IT WHEN YOU DIE! WE ARE HERE ON THIS EARTH TO LEARN OUR SPIRITUAL LESSONS AND WHEN WE DIE WE ARE FREE ! YOU STUPID LITTLE WHORE! MY CHILD LIVES! IT'S SAVED IN ANOTHER DIMENSION !
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Posted by Undine
Nobody should get away with murder or try to justify it.



Nobody should get away with calling other Human Beings Murderes.
Nobody should get away with calling Women Murderes who got pregnant.
Nobody should get away with justifying R A P E !

NOBODY SHOULD OPEN THEIR FUCKING MOUTHS AND LET THEIR STUPID LITTLE SAGITTARIUS ASCENDANT TALK; ABOUT THINGS THIS STUPID LITTLE SAGITTARIUS DOESN'T UNDERSTAND!
AND I SHOULD KNOW CUZ I AM ONE!

Don't get into this with me, Undine You'll lose.
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Posted by Sag89
I don't see anything wrong with it. Life is over for all of us in a second if you think about it.

My godfather went to work one day and never came back because he was randomly shot in a alley way.

We think we are so important. We think we are gonna live forever. We think we have forever. People live in this bubble of denial.

We don't get to control if we live or die. Face reality. It's harsh.



There are many situations when other people decision allows you to live. That of firemen, doctors, nurses and all sort of rescuers.

There are also situations when people decide that they can't deal with their lethal disease any longer, and beg for assisted suicide.

However, to give ordinary people the right to end life of innocent unborn babies (often just because they represent a temporary inconvenience) is almost as barbaric as the old habit of stoning to death pregnant unmarried women "for their sins". A society should be able to provide food, shelter, care and education for unwanted children, not perpetuate a modified version of those barbaric habits.

If people do not learn TO RESPECT life, no wonder innocent men may get killed without a second thought.
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BITCH YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DREAM LAND !
WAKE UP & SEE REALITY WHORE !!!!!!!!!
Ohhh so you dream about this sweet society who "SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOOD SHELTER CARE AND EDUCATION FOR UNWANTED CHILDREN" OHHHHHHH you are SO CUTE WITH ALL YOUR WISHES 😉
SEND YOUR MAIL TO SANTA CLAUS BITCH!
YOU CALL WOMEN WHO HAVE AN ABORTION ORDINARY PEOPLE? 😄 😄 😄 😄
YOU KNOW WHAT ALL THIS TELLS ME YOUR A LOW LIFE CUNT FROM ALABAMA LIVIN IN THE USA AND HAVING NO FUCKING IDEA ABOUT THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN!
GROW UP ASSHOLE

YOU WANT PEOPLE TO RESPECT LIFE?
YOU SHOULD FIRST START TO RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE
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You really have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Stop wasting my fucking Time with building up all you're oh-so-awesome Arguments. YOU DONT GET IT!
You don't know shit about a Woman in that Situation and this Thread should've never existed because it's a Decision every Women has to make on their own. No Woman in this Situation is happy. Every Women feels Motherlove when they are pregnant, it's in our Nature - It's Biological. Even Animals kill their Children when they know, that they can't provide Food or anything else for them. These Women are the Opposite of Murderers, they are Life - Savers.
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Posted by james tate
I MUST ADMIT
THE RAT IS A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR BIRTH CONTROL



She didn't get my point, though.

Not wanting someone is often a transient feeling and should not be used as an excuse for murder.

My mother made no secret that she wanted to get rid of me as fetus. She thought that was something that everybody was doing, and therefore "normal". It had nothing to do with her being raped, poor, loaded with kids, under age or addicted. She was a 25 years old married professional, with a good job and income, pregnant for the first time. And so were many other women who used abortion as a way to "delay motherhood till their thirties". That is the skewed attitude of a society in which abortion is not considered a crime.


Children who escaped murder are not victims, they are survivors. Victims are those who got aborted.
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Posted by xygeneration
Cant you guys see that you experience to completely different events in your life? I dont think your beliefs can apply to someone else's life bc you experience it differently.


Abortion out of "temporary inconvenience", like in the case of my mother, is the most frequent situation. These women could afford to raise the child, they just opted for murder instead, because they get away with it.

For other situations, there is help with registering the child with adoption agencies, temporary care, or an orphanage. Pregnancy lasts several months, birth several hours. Guilt from being a complice to the murder of your own child could last a life time.

I know households with seven children and households with only one. If you thing that happiness in indirect proportional with the number of kids one has, think again.