MsPisces.
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Who holds babys hand during the abortion?
I'm not laughing.....
:/ = my serious face
:/ = my serious face
Yeah I know. 😢 It does suck.
A friend of a friend's just had like her 7th or 8th. She makes me sick, tbh. I wish someone would abort her.
The amount she's spent on killing her unborn children, she could have just had her fucking tubes tied... birth control is way cheaper. Dumb c*nt. :X
STILL, even people like her don't change my mind. I'm glad she has the option to do it humanely, because God knows she could find much more terrible ways to get rid of them. I think she's repulsive, yes, but it's not on me....she'll answer in the end.
A friend of a friend's just had like her 7th or 8th. She makes me sick, tbh. I wish someone would abort her.
The amount she's spent on killing her unborn children, she could have just had her fucking tubes tied... birth control is way cheaper. Dumb c*nt. :X
STILL, even people like her don't change my mind. I'm glad she has the option to do it humanely, because God knows she could find much more terrible ways to get rid of them. I think she's repulsive, yes, but it's not on me....she'll answer in the end.
Even at 19 with an unplanned pregnancy I couldn't do it. Someone suggested it and I started to cry and get very upset. This person meant well, but everything in me said "NO". And to think, if I had done so, I would have never known my gorgeous Aqua girl. And I would have always wondered, always been sad, and my heart would hurt every day after. I'd have taken it with me to the grave.
VB ♥
I think all moms would say that about any unplanned pregnancy....what they thought was a real burden, ended up being a blessing in disguise. My mom tells me and my sister we saved her life and she's so sincere about it she tears up.
Awwwwwww 🙂
I think all moms would say that about any unplanned pregnancy....what they thought was a real burden, ended up being a blessing in disguise. My mom tells me and my sister we saved her life and she's so sincere about it she tears up.
Awwwwwww 🙂
😢
^ That was for Bells.
Oh absolutely Bri. I seem to remember that my legs were the ones in the air, and I did love her father to absolute distraction. There was no way I could have done that in good conscience. She was indeed a very precious gift. She taught me patience, unconditional love and great understanding. I — being a Momma. Pass a tissue please.
Oh absolutely Bri. I seem to remember that my legs were the ones in the air, and I did love her father to absolute distraction. There was no way I could have done that in good conscience. She was indeed a very precious gift. She taught me patience, unconditional love and great understanding. I — being a Momma. Pass a tissue please.
— for you Bri.
My two cents on the questions:
1. Are you FOR abortion? - Absolutely not. There's no other way to slice it- abortion is wrong, immoral and arrogant to think it is within the realm of human power to end a life.
2. Are you AGAINST abortion? Yes. I think silence on this matter is tactic approval of what is ultimately sanctioned murder.
3. For those in the middle (Disagree with it but see abortion as JUSTIFIED ONLY in certain situations), what do you guys consider to be "EXTREME" circumstances for which abortions are worth considering? (Ex: rape)
Extreme circumstances such as rape, etc. are what they are. They are often complex, with no easy solutions. But in the name of granting mercy or understanding to what is extreme, should we compromise principles and set the bar lower?
Usually when this happens as a matter of public policy, it is used as a LICENSE to justify behavior that otherwise would have some kind of a lid on it, if only a social stigma.
In this case, that translates into abortion being used as a kind of expedient contraception - and it gets couched in language like "a woman's right to choose."
1. Are you FOR abortion? - Absolutely not. There's no other way to slice it- abortion is wrong, immoral and arrogant to think it is within the realm of human power to end a life.
2. Are you AGAINST abortion? Yes. I think silence on this matter is tactic approval of what is ultimately sanctioned murder.
3. For those in the middle (Disagree with it but see abortion as JUSTIFIED ONLY in certain situations), what do you guys consider to be "EXTREME" circumstances for which abortions are worth considering? (Ex: rape)
Extreme circumstances such as rape, etc. are what they are. They are often complex, with no easy solutions. But in the name of granting mercy or understanding to what is extreme, should we compromise principles and set the bar lower?
Usually when this happens as a matter of public policy, it is used as a LICENSE to justify behavior that otherwise would have some kind of a lid on it, if only a social stigma.
In this case, that translates into abortion being used as a kind of expedient contraception - and it gets couched in language like "a woman's right to choose."
Posted by BellaBulleautifulPosted by venusianbull
^ That was for Bells.
Oh absolutely Bri. I seem to remember that my legs were the ones in the air, and I did love her father to absolute distraction. There was no way I could have done that in good conscience. She was indeed a very precious gift. She taught me patience, unconditional love and great understanding. I — being a Momma. Pass a tissue please.
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Oh you guys. 🙂 *wipes tear*
Posted by brianafayPosted by cappysweetie
I blame society for putting such a terrible light on it for so damn long.
There's no way not to make it seem terrible... :/
It is terrible.click to expand
I don't look at it as being terrible, but that's just me. Also, I'm not super sensitive about the issue concerning child birth and what not either ... but I know there are those who take it to heart and I can respect that and understand that not all think the way I do.
However, if I ever had to make a decision like that -- and I've thought about it -- then that should be left up to me. I mean, damn its hard enough to go through, let alone having others be-moaning you about it.
I do believe there are many people who think they are education on the abortion topic but it's more of their own personal belief rather than knowing about it -- this doesn't apply to all but to most people I've spoken to who are against it.
My mom is against it and some of my family members are too (not all) but that's them, that has nothing to do with me. I get a lot of slack and what not but that ok because at the end of the day, I have to live with myself, no one else has to.
All that being said, I adore children -- but when it comes to having them, it will happen when I'm ready.
I don't think being for or against abortion has anything to do with whether or not you like kids or want a family one day. It's just a personal choice of what to do when you're in that particular situation and you don't want to be in it.
Seriously, if I were ever raped and then impregnated by my rapist, there would be no one in all the universe who could tell me what do in that kind of situation. No one, if someone were to try, then they should expect the worse out of me. The mental scars from something like that last a lifetime and do be 'her-ranged' about keeping a baby by a man who has forced himself on me ... I couldn't deal with it.
I don't think being for or against abortion has anything to do with whether or not you like kids or want a family one day. It's just a personal choice of what to do when you're in that particular situation and you don't want to be in it.
Seriously, if I were ever raped and then impregnated by my rapist, there would be no one in all the universe who could tell me what do in that kind of situation. No one, if someone were to try, then they should expect the worse out of me. The mental scars from something like that last a lifetime and do be 'her-ranged' about keeping a baby by a man who has forced himself on me ... I couldn't deal with it.
I read the first few posts and decided to post my response then go read it because I keep wanting to say the same thing to the screen.
First, the idea of abortion being wrong except in cases of rape, incest, etc is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are against the idea of violently murdering a poor innocent unborn child... unless his father was an asshole? So if your father robs a bank tomorrow and beats up an old lady, we can come to your work smash in your skull and vacuum up the remains just because your father is an asshole?
Second, what is wrong with letting someone adopt the kids if you don't want it? I know someone is going to bring up something about all the unadopted babies we have now but that is an argument about the adoption process that shouldn't be mixed up here, yes they need it fix adoption. While there are babies waiting, there are also families that cannot adopt because daddy got arrested for pot 12 years ago when he was 18. Why can't that family have a kid?
I have a hard time taking a side on this because I am very much a "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" type. On the other hand I also limit an individuals personal rights as "my rights end where your nose begins". Do what you want as long as you aren't impacting anyone else. Who am I to tell someone what they can and cannot do? If I want to get so drunk I can't move and decide I need to just go to bed... that's fine as long as I don't come over and try to pass out in your bed.
So yes, personally I am against abortion... however, I will never be pregnant so who cares?
That said, I think I will take the seldom heard stance of Pro-Abortion. That's right pro-abortion not pro-choice. Go talk someone into it. My commute to work is long enough without you and "this guy I know"'s eight kids driving around too.
First, the idea of abortion being wrong except in cases of rape, incest, etc is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are against the idea of violently murdering a poor innocent unborn child... unless his father was an asshole? So if your father robs a bank tomorrow and beats up an old lady, we can come to your work smash in your skull and vacuum up the remains just because your father is an asshole?
Second, what is wrong with letting someone adopt the kids if you don't want it? I know someone is going to bring up something about all the unadopted babies we have now but that is an argument about the adoption process that shouldn't be mixed up here, yes they need it fix adoption. While there are babies waiting, there are also families that cannot adopt because daddy got arrested for pot 12 years ago when he was 18. Why can't that family have a kid?
I have a hard time taking a side on this because I am very much a "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" type. On the other hand I also limit an individuals personal rights as "my rights end where your nose begins". Do what you want as long as you aren't impacting anyone else. Who am I to tell someone what they can and cannot do? If I want to get so drunk I can't move and decide I need to just go to bed... that's fine as long as I don't come over and try to pass out in your bed.
So yes, personally I am against abortion... however, I will never be pregnant so who cares?
That said, I think I will take the seldom heard stance of Pro-Abortion. That's right pro-abortion not pro-choice. Go talk someone into it. My commute to work is long enough without you and "this guy I know"'s eight kids driving around too.
Posted by LibraSid
I read the first few posts and decided to post my response then go read it because I keep wanting to say the same thing to the screen.
First, the idea of abortion being wrong except in cases of rape, incest, etc is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are against the idea of violently murdering a poor innocent unborn child... unless his father was an asshole? So if your father robs a bank tomorrow and beats up an old lady, we can come to your work smash in your skull and vacuum up the remains just because your father is an asshole?
Second, what is wrong with letting someone adopt the kids if you don't want it? I know someone is going to bring up something about all the unadopted babies we have now but that is an argument about the adoption process that shouldn't be mixed up here, yes they need it fix adoption. While there are babies waiting, there are also families that cannot adopt because daddy got arrested for pot 12 years ago when he was 18. Why can't that family have a kid?
I have a hard time taking a side on this because I am very much a "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" type. On the other hand I also limit an individuals personal rights as "my rights end where your nose begins". Do what you want as long as you aren't impacting anyone else. Who am I to tell someone what they can and cannot do? If I want to get so drunk I can't move and decide I need to just go to bed... that's fine as long as I don't come over and try to pass out in your bed.
So yes, personally I am against abortion... however, I will never be pregnant so who cares?
That said, I think I will take the seldom heard stance of Pro-Abortion. That's right pro-abortion not pro-choice. Go talk someone into it. My commute to work is long enough without you and "this guy I know"'s eight kids driving around too.
Oh, I'm for adoption too, I just didn't mention it because everyone was giving their opinion about abortion. I actually want to adopt kids, yes I do 🙂 Although, the last guy I was with was totally against ... I don't get how you can be against adoption either but ok :/ A child is a child but some people rather have not adopt children, which is very sad.
One thought of mine is how come none of these pro-lifers want to feed,cloth,raise, and financially provide for unborn babies who are to be aborted? I mean they want them here so bad, no matter if they're gonna live in poverty, going from foster home to foster home to be abused and god knows what else.. But they want them here just to say we have another human in the world. Bullshit to me. Then they complain about the people going in there pockets, but they wanted them here so bad. Just my observation. They don't care if the baby will have a mother and father or even a mother who is stable and able to care for that child. No one should have any right to make anyone become a parent when they're not ready. And I don't see how some are so strongly against abortion then turn around and say but if this or that happens then its ok... bullshit.
Posted by prettyladii
One thought of mine is how come none of these pro-lifers want to feed,cloth,raise, and financially provide for unborn babies who are to be aborted? I mean they want them here so bad, no matter if they're gonna live in poverty, going from foster home to foster home to be abused and god knows what else.. But they want them here just to say we have another human in the world. Bullshit to me. Then they complain about the people going in there pockets, but they wanted them here so bad. Just my observation. They don't care if the baby will have a mother and father or even a mother who is stable and able to care for that child. No one should have any right to make anyone become a parent when they're not ready. And I don't see how some are so strongly against abortion then turn around and say but if this or that happens then its ok... bullshit.
*high-five* Exactly.
You know, if I haven't worked in my current job for so long, I would probably be very naive to many things really -- especially since I was raised with very traditional, conservative values and so on. However, after I graduated from high school, life started looking quite different to me.
I work with children and their issues along with the parental issues everyday -- trust me, that's by far the BEST form of birth control I could ever ask for. I never want to be like some of the parents I have to interact with daily. NEVER.
And I want to make darn sure I'm serious when I really want to start a family, not just because "it's something to just do". Yes, I've learned alot and I've continued to learn.
Posted by periperi
Why do we worry so much about abortions? When in sad reality whether it's Pro-Choice or Pro-Life we're always creating wars to kill each other and cause unnecessary bloodshed and suffering? HUH?! Something to think about before anyone opens their yap....First let's think of all those that are actually here. Those that can make the decisions. The day leaders fight their own wars that'll be the day all wars would stop.
That is all loyal subjects.
Truly,
Your Pisces King.
*One of the Best Comment*
Yessir ^_^. I've said my peace and I am done. Interesting debate though, but I think I should have an ending point with this topic.
themes that I hear from hard core pro choice folks are summarized in the post Lady Libra made.
Posted by LadyLibra12
** Abortion is the WOMAN'S choice. If a woman decides to tell her partner, and there is a disagreement, the WOMAN ONLY should be able to make the final choice, since it is HER body.
** There should be NO forced parental consent or spousal/partner consent.
The part about these comments that bothers me is that the people making these statements is very feminist... in whatever negative stigma you have attached to that word. Not the civilized equality thing, the "down with the oppressive man" type. Very few will admit to being this type. They will try to say it is about equality, we have to be fair... right?
I assume then that should the woman decide to keep the child she would be the only one responsible for what came out of her body right? Could we say...
** Having the baby is the WOMAN'S choice. If the woman decides to keep the baby, and there are financial problems, the WOMAN ONLY should be responsible, since it was HER choice.
** There should be NO forced parental support or spousal/partner support.
Side note: before I get hatemail... I am not supporting deadbeat dads here!
Posted by LadyLibra12
** No one should have the right to protest in front of abortion clinics/any type of abortion care provider, nor should anyone be allowed to commit any acts of violence or harassment against anyone involved in the abortion process.
** Abortion should always be covered by healthcare so that everyone woman has this choice available to her.
** I'm against all Catholic hospitals and any other religious hospital that denies a woman her right to choose.
** There should be no stigma about abortion: people should NOT judge a woman who has had one or more abortions.
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You are asking to legislate your opinion that we should not legislate someone elses opinion?
** How can you protest someones right to protest? (the violence and harassment is already illegal)
** Isn't the government into health care enough already?
** Protect your right to choice at the expense of mine?
** We still have stigmas against... well... everything. People are always gonna dislike what each other do, look like, believe, whatever...
Posted by LovelyScorpPosted by prettyladii
One thought of mine is how come none of these pro-lifers want to feed,cloth,raise, and financially provide for unborn babies who are to be aborted? I mean they want them here so bad, no matter if they're gonna live in poverty, going from foster home to foster home to be abused and god knows what else.. But they want them here just to say we have another human in the world. Bullshit to me. Then they complain about the people going in there pockets, but they wanted them here so bad. Just my observation. They don't care if the baby will have a mother and father or even a mother who is stable and able to care for that child. No one should have any right to make anyone become a parent when they're not ready. And I don't see how some are so strongly against abortion then turn around and say but if this or that happens then its ok... bullshit.
fund the teaching of personal responsibility instead of the right to choose.click to expand
How would you even do that? Even if you could, would it really eliminate the necessity of abortions? Will some magic program really teach each and every woman 'personal responsibility'? Is a lack of it even the actual problem, or something you tell yourself because you really don't know what ANOTHER woman goes through? I mean really. This is why I hate these topics, because it exposes serious ignorance, and its rather sickening.
I wonder how many pro-lifers out there hunt, or see no problem doing that? lol But god forbid a woman gets rid of a blood clot because she is absolutely hopeless. Oh, but that's right. Humans are the only sacred ones. Bees don't get to go to heaven, ya kno :/
The notion that most women heartlessly choose to abort their child because they're lazy and irresponsible hoes, is just ridiculous. It is so much deeper than that. You kept your child? Great for you. Not every situation is similar, even if you think it is.
And women throwing the word adoption around. First, I can only imagine how hard that must be for any woman, and secondly, everyone keeps glossing over the fact that no one really wants to adopt children. These kids end up in foster homes. That is the reality. I don't know what world you people live in that you think women give their kids up for adoption, and some wonderful loving family ta
Posted by BellaBulleautiful
what world are you living in? apparently one with not much accountability.
Its called reality.
I just realized it cut me off.
I don't know what world you people live in that you think women give their kids up for adoption, and some wonderful loving family comes in and takes the baby and gives it the wonderful life he/shes mother always wanted for them. Awww how sweet.
But NO. That is total bullshit.. aka the exception. The reality is, that child goes from foster home to foster home (where most of the foster parents are only in it for the money) where they are severely neglected and abused. And guess what? They tend to grow up and repeat those nasty cycles.
So really, for all the pro lifers who would deny a woman's right to choose, put your money where your mouth is and go out and ADOPT one of those babies you care for so much, or else shut the fuck up. Seriously.
I don't know what world you people live in that you think women give their kids up for adoption, and some wonderful loving family comes in and takes the baby and gives it the wonderful life he/shes mother always wanted for them. Awww how sweet.
But NO. That is total bullshit.. aka the exception. The reality is, that child goes from foster home to foster home (where most of the foster parents are only in it for the money) where they are severely neglected and abused. And guess what? They tend to grow up and repeat those nasty cycles.
So really, for all the pro lifers who would deny a woman's right to choose, put your money where your mouth is and go out and ADOPT one of those babies you care for so much, or else shut the fuck up. Seriously.
Posted by BellaBulleautiful
so the people you know are basically to ignorant to be taught personal responsibility?
I hate when people dumb down solutions to HUGE problems, as if it really is that simple.
Yes, and while we're out teaching personal responsibility to irresponsible lazy women, lets also teach poor people some personal responsibility as well, and we can eliminate poverty too! 🙂 🙂
I'm all for logical solutions. But see, where you think there is a problem with abortion, I don't. And that's fine that you do, that's not what I'm arguing. The only problem I see is the misinformation, and intolerance due to plain ignorance.
The only thing I don't agree with is late term abortions, and from what I know, most places won't do them anyway.
The only thing I don't agree with is late term abortions, and from what I know, most places won't do them anyway.
Posted by BellaBulleautiful
and how the hell do you figure PREVENTING so many unwanted pregnancies is dumb in the first place—?
I don't think its dumb at all. I'm all for contraceptives. I'm saying 'funding the teaching of personal responsibility' is dumb, because it was said as if we don't already do that, but more importantly, as if it would fix the problem to the point of totally eliminating the need for abortions.
I also don't like the implications behind that statement, because it makes the woman out to be a bad person for being human and making a mistake.
Fwiw, I think emergency contraceptives are a great advancement.
@Lovely...I NEVER once said that personal opinions weren't welcome. MY last post was in response to people saying that I was "Starting trouble" by posting this topic in the 1st place. People were automatically assuming that anyone who had an opinion about this topic would natural pre-judge anyone with opposing views.
I welcomed all different viewpoints. I've seen just about 50/50 (half the people FOR it & the other half AGAINST it) & I never once judged anyone who was for abortion even though I am against it). Of course I stated my OWN personal opinion about the topic, but I never once judged anyone with the opposite viewpoint. I wouldn't have posted this topic had I only been able to handle just 1 type of opinion. I'm all for people giving their opinions. There are a few reasons why I posted this topic & ESPECIALLY on the relationship board.
It seemed that people were starting to assume that this topic itself would stir trouble & my response to that was that no, if we're all grown adults we should all be able to disagree-aggreeably. There are plenty of people FOR abortion that have good reasons for why they have those beleifs no different than the people like me feel they have valid/justified reasons for why they feel so strongly about their beliefs. I wanted to make it clear that I wasn't asking people to start judging others. I wanted to see how each individual person felt about abortion, whether they've experienced it for themselves, knew someone who has OR if they literally just formed an opinion by imagining how they'd feel persay they were placed in a position where abortion was a possibility/was brought to the table/asked to be in consideration.
I welcomed all different viewpoints. I've seen just about 50/50 (half the people FOR it & the other half AGAINST it) & I never once judged anyone who was for abortion even though I am against it). Of course I stated my OWN personal opinion about the topic, but I never once judged anyone with the opposite viewpoint. I wouldn't have posted this topic had I only been able to handle just 1 type of opinion. I'm all for people giving their opinions. There are a few reasons why I posted this topic & ESPECIALLY on the relationship board.
It seemed that people were starting to assume that this topic itself would stir trouble & my response to that was that no, if we're all grown adults we should all be able to disagree-aggreeably. There are plenty of people FOR abortion that have good reasons for why they have those beleifs no different than the people like me feel they have valid/justified reasons for why they feel so strongly about their beliefs. I wanted to make it clear that I wasn't asking people to start judging others. I wanted to see how each individual person felt about abortion, whether they've experienced it for themselves, knew someone who has OR if they literally just formed an opinion by imagining how they'd feel persay they were placed in a position where abortion was a possibility/was brought to the table/asked to be in consideration.
Posted by BellaBulleautifulPosted by MsPisces.
I'm all for logical solutions. But see, where you think there is a problem with abortion, I don't. And that's fine that you do, that's not what I'm arguing. The only problem I see is the misinformation, and intolerance due to plain ignorance.
The only thing I don't agree with is late term abortions, and from what I know, most places won't do them anyway.
but you don't think it would be better to just eliminate some of the need for abortion?
I know you think I'm ignorant,and I also do you ....but what I can't grasp is why you think all the unplanned pregnancies seem to be ok in the first place.I just can't get down to where you are coming from,so I guess it's a draw for you and I.click to expand
Of course I think it would be better to eliminate the need for abortion, but I understand that isn't realistically possible. We have many programs/contraceptives in place, but unwanted pregnancies will always exist, therefore the option for abortion should always remain.
Posted by BellaBulleautifulPosted by MsPisces.
Fwiw, I think emergency contraceptives are a great advancement.
yes,right up there with the kind that keep it from happening at all *smh*
it's cool how the emergancy ones are never forgotten though....click to expand
Some women can't take birth control for medical reasons, some forget. Shit happens. Emergency contraceptives are still forgotten in many cases...hence the fact that abortions still take place...
The point is, its a step. There is nothing anyone can do that will drastically cut down unwanted pregnancies to a number that will make you comfortable. Women have since the beginning of time, and will always have unwanted pregnancies. It is a fact of life. Some choose to abort, some adopt, some stick it out. The great thing about America is having the right to choose for themselves.
Posted by BellaBulleautifulPosted by MsPisces.Posted by BellaBulleautiful
and how the hell do you figure PREVENTING so many unwanted pregnancies is dumb in the first place—?
I don't think its dumb at all. I'm all for contraceptives. I'm saying 'funding the teaching of personal responsibility' is dumb, because it was said as if we don't already do that, but more importantly, as if it would fix the problem to the point of totally eliminating the need for abortions.
I also don't like the implications behind that statement, because it makes the woman out to be a bad person for being human and making a mistake.
everyone makes mistakes...it's what we do with them that makes us good or bad.sorry if you have personal feelings involved.
and my biggest problem as I have repeatedly said,is HOW MANY mistakes seem to be being made.click to expand
How many unwanted babies have you adopted?
I haven't adopted any children, but I also don't condemn women who chose not to add to the already heavy list of unwanted children out there.
Bottomline is this. I can totally respect if a person thinks abortion is morally wrong. What I cannot respect is when a person wants a law in place to tell other women they can't have one, because they disagree.
I'm 27, so of course women my age will be very aware of something that affects a huge part of being a young woman...her need to reproduce.
Your point?
Your point?
Posted by BellaBulleautiful
ok,that's where we disagree.I don't care about laws,I care about prevention.and I care about the obvious misuse of abortion.
How can you argue that half of people my age don't know their rights to make some point, but then turn around and say you don't care about laws?
I care about them.
I too, care about prevention.
The misuse/abuse of abortion is the exception, not to mention how highly subjective it is. Who are you to tell another person what circumstance warrants an abortion?
Meh. I'm sick of this :/ Its futile anyway, as the two of us will still leave here believing what we did when we first came in, ya know.
No hard feelings either, Bells. I'm used to us having strong differing opinions on a lot of social issues by now 😛
Night.
No hard feelings either, Bells. I'm used to us having strong differing opinions on a lot of social issues by now 😛
Night.
Posted by BellaBulleautifulPosted by MsPisces.
I'm 27, so of course women my age will be very aware of something that affects a huge part of being a young woman...her need to reproduce.
Your point?
not to be nit picky....but do you realize the oxymoron of that statement?click to expand
lol I KNEW you were going to say that right after I posted it. haha
🙂
hehe 😉
Prevention .... accountability .... using federal funds to teach people ...common sense practices .... haha my word ^_^, if only we could all live in DW and be happy. As a 20-something adult, the only things I have to is pay my taxes and die -- anything else is of pure circumstance. You CANNOT stop life from happening to you, no matter how straight-up-and-down you try to be. Shit happens and life keeps moving, life doesn't stop for anyone, including the most self rightous of them all.
Human beings are living organisms but we are not all the same. You can stop a planet from dying by watering it and sunlight. Human beings (who are also living organisms) need more than just water & sun to live 😉
Life is different for everyone and so it should be. Decisions made will be based on that person's life, not anyone else's opinion about that person's life. Now, this is purely from my point of view b/c I already know that I will do what I feel is right and anyone else's opinion be damned. Nothing personal, but when it comes down to something growing inside, it has nothing to do with anyone else.
Human beings are living organisms but we are not all the same. You can stop a planet from dying by watering it and sunlight. Human beings (who are also living organisms) need more than just water & sun to live 😉
Life is different for everyone and so it should be. Decisions made will be based on that person's life, not anyone else's opinion about that person's life. Now, this is purely from my point of view b/c I already know that I will do what I feel is right and anyone else's opinion be damned. Nothing personal, but when it comes down to something growing inside, it has nothing to do with anyone else.
I'm sorry King Peri 😄 I went back on my word ^_^. I'll keep it next time around.
Still no one wants to have a hand in clothing,feeding,raising, or financially supporting these children whom are saved from abortion. Its not all about teaching personal responsibility its about here and now when the baby is made. Is it a responsibility to raise a child one cannot? I don't think so. Having a kid growing up not wanted or feeling just like an obligation with no real childhood or joy isn't any good. But as long as its alive right?
Posted by periperiPosted by cappysweetie
I'm sorry King Peri 😄 I went back on my word ^_^. I'll keep it next time around.
Doesn't matter. Today is a sad day. Many a battle have been lost. I even banned the LOLz.click to expand
See, things were alright until you banned the LoLZ ....... its okay. We all must lose to learn how to when. He who fights & runs away lives to run another day 😄
ENOUGH don't you people know that TUBBY BUTT was the poster baby for birth control.
I can't believe 13 pages of talking about YOUR opinions on somethign that doesn't even matter.
You know when you squash a bug, like an ant on the sidewalk .. yeah, that's us.
This life doesnt' matter.
People would say things like .. if God were real, why would he let us suffer ... because you are a fucking ant, you don't matter in this body.
Life is not what resides in this body.
Abortion doesn't matter ... because life in the body doesn't matter ... you all rattle on and on about it like your voice matters and it doesn't .. it doesn't mean anything.
Wars don't mean anything either .. you could go out and hang yourself on the tree in the backyard and it means absolutely nothing in the whole design.
What matters is to comprehend that you are not IN this world .. you are OF this world.
You know when you squash a bug, like an ant on the sidewalk .. yeah, that's us.
This life doesnt' matter.
People would say things like .. if God were real, why would he let us suffer ... because you are a fucking ant, you don't matter in this body.
Life is not what resides in this body.
Abortion doesn't matter ... because life in the body doesn't matter ... you all rattle on and on about it like your voice matters and it doesn't .. it doesn't mean anything.
Wars don't mean anything either .. you could go out and hang yourself on the tree in the backyard and it means absolutely nothing in the whole design.
What matters is to comprehend that you are not IN this world .. you are OF this world.
so long as these egos still exist in this massive amount .. we won't be ready to evolve.
To reprodude a baby means zilch .. because it's just making another biological carbon unit for the already existing lifeform to enter for a short period of time, and it doesn't care how long it uses the body, life or death of the body doesn't effect the life.
To reprodude a baby means zilch .. because it's just making another biological carbon unit for the already existing lifeform to enter for a short period of time, and it doesn't care how long it uses the body, life or death of the body doesn't effect the life.
you are a good argument for abortion
Although I don't necessarily support a law that makes abortions illegal, I DON'T support those who continuously use tax-payers money to fund their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. abortions. I feel the same about welfare in certain situations. If a woman cannot raise/take care of 1 child, she shouldn't be having more children. Should it be illegal for her to have more children? Well no, b/c there is something called the constitution, BUT something has to be done.
If they're not going to make abortion illegal then they atleast need to do SOMETHING! They need to use more funds towards education & health care. It's not to say that if they do this, the world will be a 100% better place, BUT with the right education and/or morals taught to young people, it is GUARANTEED that plenty of innocent lives will be saved. Sure, people will still be irresponsible, promiscious, or whatever you want to call it regardless (People break laws even though there are actually laws), it'd make sense to actually FUND education & health care FIRST instead of not doing so and/or trying to naturally assume that things won't get better.
People will be people regardless, bUT if certain funds going to certain programs saves even 1 life, that's good enough. There's all these crazy & low-life people in this world & to be honest, IF I could trade, I'd take the 3 million/year aborted babies & give them a chance to live before I would the adults & elders who got their chance to live but yet still contribute to the problems.
If they're not going to make abortion illegal then they atleast need to do SOMETHING! They need to use more funds towards education & health care. It's not to say that if they do this, the world will be a 100% better place, BUT with the right education and/or morals taught to young people, it is GUARANTEED that plenty of innocent lives will be saved. Sure, people will still be irresponsible, promiscious, or whatever you want to call it regardless (People break laws even though there are actually laws), it'd make sense to actually FUND education & health care FIRST instead of not doing so and/or trying to naturally assume that things won't get better.
People will be people regardless, bUT if certain funds going to certain programs saves even 1 life, that's good enough. There's all these crazy & low-life people in this world & to be honest, IF I could trade, I'd take the 3 million/year aborted babies & give them a chance to live before I would the adults & elders who got their chance to live but yet still contribute to the problems.
I am pro-abortion.
Be happy your mother wasn't
lol!
If she had aborted me, I would never know and life would go on just as it always has.
If she had aborted me, I would never know and life would go on just as it always has.
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Exactly. Whether we argee with it or not, is our own business. I dislike a lot of the comments here, because I think they're based in ignorance, but that's my own issue. Everyone has a right to an opinion, just as everyone has the right to CHOOSE to do what they will with their bodies. That is the beauty of America.