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Posted by seavixen2
it's ok to learn something new everybody🙂
so what everybody that has experienced what they thought was racism..was actually experiencing prejudice (if your white)
you've still witnessed some sort of hate and that still makes it ugly
that hasn't changed



@seavixen,

pictorals seem to work so check this out...



words/images have meaning. if everyone who says something of a racial nature that you don't like is a racist, if an elected official in a political party is passing a law that you don't like, he's hitler. again, words/images have meanings and manipulating them, throwing them around to suit your own aims shows one's own ignorance and minimizes the impact of that word.

in this instance, comparing obama and bush to hitler...to HITLER! do they honestly deserve that label? and how insulting is that to the millions of people who died under the hands of that psycho?

what's said to me is, there are those who buy into this manipulation time and time again. they lap it up like chocolate covered poo and have their hands out for seconds.

now when someone tries to point out that they're eating crap, you have folks who are hell bent on arguing the "but it's covered in chocolate" angle rather than admit they've been eating poo. is it any wonder the world is mucked up?
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so the bigger point is...not every white person who says something i don't like is a racist.

if i get cut off in the parking lot by some white chick in a minivan, she's not a racist bitch.

black folks who call a white person a cracka to their face or behind it aren't racists.

latinos who speak ill of gringos aren't racist.

it takes more than some ugly words to earn that label. just as it takes more than wanting to pass a national health care policy or starting some ridiculous war to equate a man to hitler.'

am i clear now? probably not.

i need a pepsi (that's historically the n*gger drink btw)
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me and my friend make racist jabs at each other all the time although neither one of us would say the other was racist. again, i know white kids who say nigger or the variant nigga all the time but i don't consider them racist. the people i do consider to be racist/prejudice are the people that may not necessarily say certain things but do certain things that make it clear they don't like you because of the way you look. like i said, its not really the words but the emotion and thinking behind it.
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Cancer Gym
the flat earth
a Egyptian was the first person to come up with the idea that the world was ovel
he noted that the shadow from a rod was shorter at a location 300 miles from his home at the same time of day.
From this he was able to determin that the world was ovel and how many miles around it was.
He came up with a little larger earth than we have but it was around 3000 BC.

must of been a white Egyptian hun
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ok, i was being dramatic with the OCD thing but i did vacuum the carpet.

@cancergem, your generation is baffling to me. and white folks who lack home training are as well.

the chris rock thingy that mspisces shared was an excellent example of how things are supposed to be done. there are some things you just don't say in mixed company. run your mouth like a freakin sailor if you want in your own home but know how to conduct yourself in public.

i can't imagine being in the presence of white folk who would have the audacity to use the n-word. i think black people who allow their non-black friends to use such words around them are a blight on humanity and need to go in for slave re-education training.

i also can't imagine trading racial jabs with a white friend. is that supposed to be fun?

i had to tell my white beau what he better not say in my presence because as much as i like him, if i wouldn't be able to take him calling another woman a bitch in my presence, i damn sure am not gonna be cool with him calling me or anyone else a nigger.
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gotta love racists...they are so much fun! everybody, hug a racist near you!



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and for those foolish enough to believe, the stats in these vids are complete BS
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yeah, i thought about hiding and reposting. i didn't look at the code. i hate that they autoplay.

white nationalists are fun. what's cool about them is that they're quite vocal throughout europe which is why i prefer my racists to be american. they're more undercover with it these days and as long as you don't get lost in montana or accidentally step on someone's lawn in TX, you can pretty much avoid them.
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Posted by Awake

To expatiate on on my comment about feminism. It began as a just cause, to strive for equality as it should have been from the jump. That term feminism has taken on a new meaning anymore however, it isnt a strive for equality but rather supremacy. I find it fcking disgusting. I think a lesson well served for men and women, love does not go hand in hand with control and manipulation. It is far too easy to fall into generalization of a gender, or even a race however.



Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

so the civil rights movements resulted in minorities and women striving for supremacy over white males?

(WHITE) MEN! 😛
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and you do have Caucasian pride days. are you nuts? st. patricks day is one big, irish (white) hoopla. and italian americans have pride festivals. i'd offer some more info but apparently, you're not even aware of how white people celebrate being white. guess you ignore stuff that's not convenient for you.

you could try exercising a bit of common sense. the reason why it's termed "Black" pride is because the majority of "Blacks" who are descendants of slaves have no national identity. thus, "black' pride as in, i can't date my family history past a certain date so all i know is the color of my skin.

can you identify at least one nationality in your family history? if so, take some pride in that. i encourage you to celebrate your ancestry. celebrate your cultural identity. cause i can't 😛
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you dip. puerto ricans have pride festivals. cubans have pride festivals. notice the nationality!

what happens when you have NO nationality? what happens if you came from somewhere else, but you don't know where that "else" is?

i am damn sure that if you wanted to trace your lineage you could. your being too lazy to bother and me being unable to do so at all are two different animals.
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i know we began talking like an hour ago and you think you know my whole life story but if you want to know what i REALLY seek? it's for you to get a clue and to get your head out of your own arse.

white boys such as yourself playing victim is HILARIOUS! whoa is me, blacks keeping you down, women keeping you down, immigrants keeping you down...i mean, hell, can't the white man get break! god, i mean all this oppression just isn't fair.
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When Blacks Attack!
Reflections on White Victimology and the Ironies of Institutional Racism

By Tim Wise

January 28, 2008

"Everything you said in there was so insulting to me."

The words came harsh and unexpected. I had just given a speech on racism and white privilege at an upstate New York college, and was nearing the end of an after-event reception, when the young woman--who had been seething with anger, waiting to confront me--finally stepped forward.

"You don't know me," she continued. "How dare you say that I have privilege just because I'm white. My family had nothing, we lived in neighborhoods where we were the only white people around, and I got called a white bitch by black girls every day, and got beat up regularly by black kids on my block. How dare you say that I had advantages being white. That's bullshit!"

It's never easy to know the right words at a moment such as this. On the one hand, I knew that the young woman had horribly misinterpreted my words that night, and those in my book, White Like Me, which she and her first-year classmates had been asked to read last fall. On the other hand, you can't just tell someone who is obviously in pain that they missed the point. To do so would be cruel. So instead, I tried a different approach.

First, I told her how sorry I was that those things had happened to her. There is no excuse for anyone to treat another person that way, and I have never suggested otherwise. Those who had abused her and called her names were assholes, and nothing they had experienced in life could justify their lashing out at her. Nothing.

Then I tried to explain, as best I could, what my point had been. And I sought to make it very clear that my comments hadn't really been directed at her in the least.

"My book is a memoir," I noted. "So, by definition it's about my experience. And all I'm asking people to do is to reflect on those experiences to see how many of them hold true in their own lives as well. Some will, others won't, and that's fine."

She still wasn't buying it. "Yes, but you said that all whites have privilege, not just you."

"In some ways, yes," I noted. "Being white means having advantages in employment, education, the justice system and housing, for example. I provided statistical support for those claims in my speech, and if you have data to the contrary, by all means share it with me. Otherwise, I'm not sure what the argument is, or how to respond to your concerns. I never
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said that all whites have easy lives. It's just that as a general rule, to be white confers advantage, just like being rich, or male, or straight, or able-bodied does, relative to those who are poor, women, LGBT or disabled."

Having no data to contradict anything I had offered in the talk, she changed her line of attack.

"Well, it's just that you spent all your time talking about 'whites this' and 'whites that,' and I just feel you should have talked about other types of racism too, not just white racism and white privilege. What about people like me, who have been attacked for being white? Why don't you spend the same amount of time talking about that?"

It was a fair enough question; indeed, it was one I've gotten many times before. First, I noted that as a white person it just made sense to me that I have to deal with my piece of the problem--my two nickels in the quarter so to speak--since it is white racism and privilege that I, as a white person, have the most direct control over. "I can't control what black folks think of me, or how they treat me," I explained. "But a system that gives me unfair advantages and opportunities is something I can take responsibility for."

"Yeah," she replied. "I get that, but it just seems you should be more balanced."

"Well, think of it this way," I responded. "If data indicates (and it does, surprisingly) that every year there are maybe a few dozen attacks of heterosexuals by LGBT folks, which are apparently motivated by bias against straight people, does that make anti-straight bias the functional equivalent of homophobia and gay-bashing? And should people who speak about gay-bashing and discrimination against LGBT folks feel compelled to give equal time to 'straight-bashing' and 'heterophobia'?"
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"No," she answered.

"Okay then," I replied. "So, in other words, even if we acknowledge that sometimes the less powerful group in a society does something bad to the more powerful group, and even if we suggest that sometimes members of the more powerful group suffer injustices, the larger institutional patterns can remain in place, right?"

Though she seemed to understand what I was getting at, her anger was far from spent. The tension continued to mount, on both sides, ultimately tapering off into an exchange that probably was less productive than either of us would have preferred.

Because I feel a responsibility to explain the concepts I talk about in a way that is clear and convincing to others, I struggled for the next few days, wondering what I could have done better in our conversation. What could I have said that would have allowed the young woman to hear me? What could I have said that might have allowed us to connect with one another, share perspectives, and reach some kind of synthesis?

Though I hadn't thought of it that evening, a few days later, still pondering the conflict between us, I finally came to realize perhaps the most important thing about her experiences as a child, growing up white in an almost-all-black neighborhood. Namely, that experience itself was a symptom of institutional racism--the kind that creates racially-isolating environments to begin with. In other words, the abuse she had suffered didn't disprove my position--far from it. Rather, it confirmed it, in a most visceral way.

The young woman's abuse was made more likely by virtue of her extreme racial isolation. After all, people feel more empowered to abuse others who are different when they have the power in numbers to back them up. And that isolation was the result of social forces that have allowed neighborhoods to become so racially separated in the first place: forces such as institutional racism and white privilege.

Were it not for the history of racism, which has kept black folks concentrated in low-income and mostly black spaces thanks to housing bias, there would be no neighborhoods like the one in which that young woman grew up and faced abuse. In fact, one study by the Urban Institute found that if where people lived were solely a matter of their ability to pay (in other words, if factors like racism didn't play an independent role, above and beyond mere finances), fewer than one percent of African Americans would live in communities where they
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were the majority. As such, we can safely estimate that in the absence of race-based obstacles to equal housing opportunity, there would be no spaces where blacks would be such a majority, and whites such a minority that the latter might become a target for those in the former, who might seek to abuse their numerical power.

If equal opportunity were the norm--in other words, were white privilege and institutional racism uprooted--there would be few if any spaces left (especially in large metropolitan areas) where one group would be able to view itself as the norm, and thereby objectify others as abnormal, for the purpose of picking on them or abusing them. If white kids and kids of color grew up together, shared neighborhoods and schools, and socialized on a plane of equity from the beginning, the odds of such race-based abuse manifesting would be greatly diminished if not eradicated. There would still be occasional fights, to be sure; but there would be little reason to expect these conflicts to take on a uniquely racial angle. As such, the ability of racial resentments to develop, in either direction, or for racial stereotypes to persist over time would diminish as well.

In other words, the conditions under which she (and her abusers) grew up were products of a system of racial inequity. And although most whites are able to escape the downside of that system, by way of having access to greener pastures, "better" neighborhoods, and spaces in which they (we) will be the norm, some, as with her family, were not. So, ironically, she ended up reaping the consequences of a system that although it was set up for the benefit of persons like herself, occasionally leaves even some white folks out in the cold. She ended up experiencing the blowback of a system of privilege which occasionally fails even those for whom it was intended as a system of support. But the fact of that system's imperfections--the fact, for example that occasionally some whites fall through the cracks anyway--does not minimize the extent to which the system is in place, nor the extent to which whites as a group benefit from it, nor the extent to which whites such as the young woman that evening should continue to interrogate that system, and ultimately seek to change it, for her own benefit, and not merely out of the goodness of her heart.

To some, this analysis may appear to let the perpetrators of the abuse off the hook. Perhaps it sounds like excuse making, or like blaming the sy
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Posted by ianthefish
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=racism<BR>
S: (n) racism, racialism, racial discrimination (discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race)

when a black guy spit in my mothers face as she was walking down the street it was not actually racism...

what my mother experienced in oakland in the 70's was not racism....

simply because she was not black?

when my mother had bricks thrown at her car while she was trying to get home simply for the fact that she was not black was not racism....

she was not really the victim of a race riot, simply because she was not black.....

that doesnt really make sense to me, but i guess i dont know how to read...




dude, you're full of it. you know it. i know it. did your mom experience some horrible events. possibly. but you know what, this is the internet and i don't put it past people to make up scenarios to suit their needs.

so she was spat on in oakland? or was she spat on at some random location but what happened to her in oakland is just far too tragic to detail on the internets? when she was spat on, was it pre-civil rights movement? i mean, a black man spits on her and he wasn't put under the jail? wait is your mom black? i recall your saying you're a rainbow fish. but anyway, what part of america was your mom in during the spatting episode and during what era? when the bricks were thrown, was that during the "race riot" or was she just coming home from buying groceries and all of a sudden the black dude who spat on her decided to throw bricks at her car? oh and out of curiosity, what "race riot" were you referring to and be sure to use the google this time as "race riots" haven't occurred very infrequently in this country and the events are pretty easily verifiable. also, given you're probably clueless, blacks aren't the only group in this country to "riot" based on race. and why in the hell was your mom conveniently in the midst of so much bullshit? i mean seriously, to be right in the middle of drama...what could one possibly be doing to be right there during a time when much of america was still pretty segregated...hell, it's pretty segregated now. so i could wager a guess but the possibilities are none too polite. and out of your respect for your mom, i digress because she can't help that her son is a lying spazz.

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