Cheating

This topic was created in the Relationships forum by clippityclop on Sunday, January 8, 2017 and has 36 replies.

Understanding Cheating in Relationships

Cheating involves breaking trust by engaging in romantic or sexual activities outside a committed relationship. It can cause emotional pain and betrayal, especially when involving friends. Recognizing the signs and understanding the reasons behind cheating can help in addressing relationship issues and making informed decisions about trust and reconciliation.

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Today this girl at work told me that her boyfriend cheated on her. And that they're trying to work through things.

He's had the same group of friends since highschool and they all hang out at their place all the time. I guess a few of them took mdma, the girl I work with didn't. I guess she was trying to sleep and she came into the living area and saw him and one of his friends making out. She had to go intervene and tell him to stop. She left to calm herself down, and came back. This time he had his hand down her pants. She tried to get him off of her but he didn't even realise she was there.

ANYWAYS. I just feel so bad for this girl, and I can't believe she physically saw it happen. I don't think I could ever get the image out of my head. And also it being a friend.. would be way different if it was a random but it being a friend makes it so much worse 😢

Apparently on Christmas eve too. She had to tell her parents not to come for Christmas and explain to then what happened. Yikes.

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"They're trying to work through things"

Why? Why? It doesn't matter that he was on drugs, get the fuck out of there !!! Props to her way of thinking and the fact that she obviously cares about this idiot and wants to understand or at least respect him, but I'd be trying to push her out. I guess I don't know what their relationship is like but cheating is cheating.

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Posted by Porcerpe
"They're trying to work through things"

Why? Why? It doesn't matter that he was on drugs, get the fuck out of there !!! Props to her way of thinking and the fact that she obviously cares about this idiot and wants to understand or at least respect him, but I'd be trying to push her out. I guess I don't know what their relationship is like but cheating is cheating.

Yeah I know 😢 she said he was just on a completely different planet. She said that she told him that she's not comfortable with him drinking or anything with her not around anymore. But like it was in the house while she was only upstairs.

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Posted by Vageenka
Wow she is a lot more tolerant then I would be in this position.

And I hope she doesn't know this was more then just a "lols we got high" thing. MDMA brings out the inner, most inhibited part of yourself. It is like you with no insecurities or censorship. He clearly has a thing for the friend he was making out with.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Like if the love of your life was right beside you, wouldn't you want to touch them and not someone else? Unless maybe they were just on the same level or something and had some heart to heart and things got carried away. Iunno. Not an excuse but yeah.

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Posted by DivaCanLeo

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Posted by DivaCanLeo
What's their sign?

She should leave him

Yeah. I'm getting like a feminine vibe from her. She's very very sweet. My guess is maybe an earth or water sign. Pisces probably

Find out.

But a good friend doesn't stay silent

That bytch cheated on her and blamed it on drugs

Unless he was doing heroin and was out cold and getting raped

Dude knew exactly what he was doing

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Yeah I will. I haven't worked with her very often so don't know her well. I was surprised she was so open about him cheating on her with me. But I did tell her that I couldn't do it. I think it really upset her so I just stopped talking

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When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

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Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

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Posted by Seraphlight
Him doing drugs would be enough to make me walk on it's own.

Who he is made him behave this way. If she still loves him. She has to realize this is a part of him.

It doesn't matter what it was drugs drink or whatever. This is who he is.

She needs to know this is what she is getting herself into. She should walk.

He's whole world of dishonor. It's not a world to visit.

Yeah. I think she should too. Who knows though. I haven't met the guy so I'm not sure what type of relationship they have

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Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

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She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

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Posted by i_am

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Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

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she said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

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Posted by dolluxe
He deserves a swift kick up the jacksies.

Seriously though, if I was in her situation my Taurus Moon's anger would've reared it's ugly head. I'd see nothing but red.

Whatever this girl's decision is, I hope everything works out for the best.

Haha yeah I think I'd just scream. It would freak them out enough to keep their hands off eachother. I also wouldn't have left the room

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Posted by clippityclop

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Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

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From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

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Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

I agree. I would give her my honest opinion. He invites bad things around him and her. He is a bad thing.

He would not even be acceptable as a friend.

She should not be with this man. He prob will not listen but i would tell her.

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The person is no longer wrong for his/her actions because it has been validated by the passive enabler.

She will be just as bad* .. it's a cycle.

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Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

I agree. I would give her my honest opinion. He invites bad things around him and her. He is a bad thing.

He would not even be acceptable as a friend.

She should not be with this man. He prob will not listen but i would tell her.

The person is no longer wrong for his/her actions because it has been validated by the passive enabler.

She will be just as bad* .. it's a cycle.

What you mean is ...THOSE TWO individuals ..see it as that way...but in reality ...that's not the way it is ...he is the one at fault...but persuades her that the two of them are in it...so she may even see it that way.

It's the way addicts manipulate. It's wrong though. And it's not reality. She is the victim. She needs to see it this way. Or else she will learn the hard way.

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If he's an addict he needs more help than she does, which means she's more capable to think clearly.

He's just 1 out of 1000x people out there. He's not the last addict* she'll come across. Identifying her own flaws/weakness will help her in the long run rather than projecting blame and becoming* victim.

People become more fragile the more they're sheltered from facts. There is strength in identifying one's flaws.

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Posted by i_am

Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

I agree. I would give her my honest opinion. He invites bad things around him and her. He is a bad thing.

He would not even be acceptable as a friend.

She should not be with this man. He prob will not listen but i would tell her.

The person is no longer wrong for his/her actions because it has been validated by the passive enabler.

She will be just as bad* .. it's a cycle.

What you mean is ...THOSE TWO individuals ..see it as that way...but in reality ...that's not the way it is ...he is the one at fault...but persuades her that the two of them are in it...so she may even see it that way.

It's the way addicts manipulate. It's wrong though. And it's not reality. She is the victim. She needs to see it this way. Or else she will learn the hard way.

If he's an addict he needs more help than she does, which means she's more capable to think clearly.

He's just 1 out of 1000x people out there. He's not the last addict* she'll come across. Identifying her own flaws/weakness will help her in the long run rather than projecting blame and becoming* victim.

People become more fragile the more they're sheltered from facts. There is strength in identifying one's flaws.

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I don't know if he's an addict.. I think its just something that he does once in a while. But I guess it could definitely turn into a problem in the long term. It's tricky to know in those early stages if it's just a phase or not. Hopefully it is!

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Posted by clippityclop

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Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

I agree. I would give her my honest opinion. He invites bad things around him and her. He is a bad thing.

He would not even be acceptable as a friend.

She should not be with this man. He prob will not listen but i would tell her.

The person is no longer wrong for his/her actions because it has been validated by the passive enabler.

She will be just as bad* .. it's a cycle.

What you mean is ...THOSE TWO individuals ..see it as that way...but in reality ...that's not the way it is ...he is the one at fault...but persuades her that the two of them are in it...so she may even see it that way.

It's the way addicts manipulate. It's wrong though. And it's not reality. She is the victim. She needs to see it this way. Or else she will learn the hard way.

If he's an addict he needs more help than she does, which means she's more capable to think clearly.

He's just 1 out of 1000x people out there. He's not the last addict* she'll come across. Identifying her own flaws/weakness will help her in the long run rather than projecting blame and becoming* victim.

People become more fragile the more they're sheltered from facts. There is strength in identifying one's flaws.

I don't know if he's an addict.. I think its just something that he does once in a while. But I guess it could definitely turn into a problem in the long term. It's tricky to know in those early stages if it's just a phase or not. Hopefully it is!

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I can't believe you don't know your friend and her bf's sign. It's dxp protocol when you share stories like this. har har har

Best of luck clippits.

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Posted by i_am

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Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by Seraphlight

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am

Posted by clippityclop

Posted by i_am
When mdma (plus alcohol) is involved, well, to each their own.

A partner who brings friends at home to get high/drunk is not a keeper (I know, that sounds like common sense). This is coming from my memory bank. Sigh. Those were really stupid days.

Yeah, crazy how she has to worry about him now even in her own house. Crazy

She plays a role in it too. I think we judge by contrast even if it's the same shade.

She sounds like a passive (for now anyway) sign.

Does she take mdma too?

She said she doesn't do it often and has only started doing those types of things this year. So me thinks that he has something to do with it

From experience, and this took A LONG TIME to realize, I was the only person responsible for my own stupidity.

I think, it doesn't help when we choose to be subjective because we think of the fragile nature of the relationship and/or we identify with person A more than person B.

Also, tolerance is not always a good thing since it can induce suffering.

Punch her with honesty. It will help her in the long run.

Being sweet/kind isn't beneficial if the self is neglected.

I agree. I would give her my honest opinion. He invites bad things around him and her. He is a bad thing.

He would not even be acceptable as a friend.

She should not be with this man. He prob will not listen but i would tell her.

The person is no longer wrong for his/her actions because it has been validated by the passive enabler.

She will be just as bad* .. it's a cycle.

What you mean is ...THOSE TWO individuals ..see it as that way...but in reality ...that's not the way it is ...he is the one at fault...but persuades her that the two of them are in it...so she may even see it that way.

It's the way addicts manipulate. It's wrong though. And it's not reality. She is the victim. She needs to see it this way. Or else she will learn the hard way.

If he's an addict he needs more help than she does, which means she's more capable to think clearly.

He's just 1 out of 1000x people out there. He's not the last addict* she'll come across. Identifying her own flaws/weakness will help her in the long run rather than projecting blame and becoming* victim.

People become more fragile the more they're sheltered from facts. There is strength in identifying one's flaws.

I don't know if he's an addict.. I think its just something that he does once in a while. But I guess it could definitely turn into a problem in the long term. It's tricky to know in those early stages if it's just a phase or not. Hopefully it is!

I can't believe you don't know your friend and her bf's sign. It's dxp protocol when you share stories like this. har har har

Best of luck clippits.

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I knoooow. I just work with her. We dont get rostered on together very frequently. And I don't know her well enough to ask her sign. I would like to know though! I'm betting Pisces or Taurus. She has sleepy sweet eyes. If that even makes sense haha

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Drugs is an excuse. He blatantly disrespected her in their own house.. Like another poster said , unless he's using Heroin , has nodded off & getting raped - no excuse

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Posted by SofiaV87
Drugs is an excuse. He blatantly disrespected her in their own house.. Like another poster said , unless he's using Heroin , has nodded off & getting raped - no excuse

Yeah I agree. Its also not a foggy minded substance so it's pretty silly.

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At first I thought this was about rape and you witnessed it and did nada.

But now clearly it's hard to tell a friend to leave because drug addiction is horrible and ruins people for life. I hope she gets the strength and courage to leave fast.

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Posted by tiziani
Well good luck to all of them, sincerely. If you know people who are having regular drug parties with MDMA etc involved, they are going to need that luck.

Yeah, and they're not that young either. :/

Then they won't change.

Maybe they could. Mid twenties. Hard to say.

No. Trust me.

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HrmmmmMm. I used to drink a lot, I've toned that down and I'm 26. There's always hope ?

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Posted by Arielle83
What did the female frievd do or say after?

I guess she apologized to the girl I work with. At first it wasn't a very genuine apology. But then a few days after the fact she wrote a long message. Too late though. Nothing will be viewed the same. Atleast it wouldn't be in my mind!