Saturnian relationships

Saturn in relationships. When do they manifest?

Posted by Saturnlady
Saturn in relationships. When do they manifest?

When its making a significant aspect to your Personal planet or point (i.e Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, 7th house, North or South nodes etc).

If you are talking Paternal or Authoritative relationship, this can be encountered at work with your boss or someone that delegates to you-- Sun, Midheavean, Mars, Nodes (even 7th house as it rules others)

Long-term love relationship- Venus, Mars, 7th house, Nodes as well

Thank you.

Is the Saturn-Mars opposition really that bad? Lots of description says it is.

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I am also interested in your south node and north node - saturn connections.

And how long time do you think Saturn needs to show himself in a relationship? Is it there right from the beginning? You just 'know' it is a meaningful relationship?

His Saturn is conjunct my sun



It's heavy - especially when you meet young and not ready for that type of gravity. But we made it, there's hope

The person with whom I have Saturn opposite Mars is the one I was fighting with. (For over a decade). Interesting. I am Saturn here.

It is like a constant battle and she is the one who can't bear me and feels I look down on her. So, she is boosting her ego all the time when I am near her.

Posted by Saturnlady
Thank you.

Is the Saturn-Mars opposition really that bad? Lots of description says it is.

So I've heard,read and experienced that Mars-Saturn or Mars-Uranus hard aspect is a massive red alert in synastry that's not good. As a prominent Capricorn/saturnian, I can handle it. Doesn't mean my partner can however.

The annoying thing is it starts off like things are going fine and you can't understand what people are talking about regarding this being bad but you have to understand that Saturn rules time and with time, things start to deteriorate.

If however both individuals are mature, you'll be fine as this will only favour people that are really mature and are willing to fight for what they want and not one-sided.

This lady explains it in a nutshell of how Mars-Saturn usually plays out in synastry

"When there are hard aspects (conjunction, square, opposition​​​​​​​​​​) between Mars and Saturn in synastry, it seems that no matter what the Mars person does, the Saturn person is bothered. Nothing is ever “good enough” for Saturn. The Saturn person usually sees the Mars person as childish and irresponsible. The Mars person’s energy is the sort that makes the Saturn person very uncomfortable. More specifically, the Mars person’s self-confidence and assertiveness brings out Saturn’s insecurities, and in response, the Saturn person attempts to restrict and limit the Mars person’s actions by telling Mars what to do. Saturn may resort to constantly tearing the Mars person down through criticism and psychological abuse.

It is common for Mars to feel Saturn is condescending and treats Mars like a child. Mars may become angry with this and lash out at the Saturn person. The cycle of criticism and conflict can soon become a vicious cycle. This aspect lends itself to verbally abusive relationships, and can even escalate into physical aggression.

Since Mars is the planet of sex and physical energy, this aspect can also manifest into sexual problems for the couple. Saturn may find the sex disappointed, and Mars may sense this, and lose their sexual confidence. This is an aspect often found in the synastry charts of sexless marriages.

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The harmonious aspects (trine, sextile​​​​​​​​​​), on the other hand, are much easier to handle. In this case, Saturn acts like a rock for the Mars person. The Saturn person is always there to support the Mars person, which Mars finds very comforting. Predictability and stability characterize the partnership. The Saturn person calms the Mars person down, while the Mars person introduces new ways of doing things to the Saturn person. Overall, this is a very positive aspect".

http://astrolady.wixsite.com/astrolady/mars-saturn-aspects-in-synastry

People with Mars that's are in hard aspect to my Saturn on Capricorn can really annoy me because of how passive-aggressive they get (mainly libra and cancer), it think for one it's because Mars is in detriment and fall respectively in these signs, so they just rub me the wrong way. They are however the ones I've had relationships with and was attracted to initially @SaturnLady

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Posted by Saturnlady
Thank you.

Is the Saturn-Mars opposition really that bad? Lots of description says it is.

So I've heard,read and experienced that Mars-Saturn or Mars-Uranus hard aspect is a massive red alert in synastry that's not good. As a prominent Capricorn/saturnian, I can handle it. Doesn't mean my partner can however.

The annoying thing is it starts off like things are going fine and you can't understand what people are talking about regarding this being bad but you have to understand that Saturn rules time and with time, things start to deteriorate.

If however both individuals are mature, you'll be fine as this will only favour people that are really mature and are willing to fight for what they want and not one-sided.

What do you know about the Mars-Uranus red flag?

I've found that a heavily Saturn-influenced relationship is very difficult to leave, even when one needs to leave it. I interpreted this as a bad thing and wasted time for a long time, but I'm beginning to see it as growth, as something we both had to experience to prepare for future relationships.

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I have Saturn conjunct Uranus by 1dg natal, so I've experienced it and just read about it on cafeastrology but I think the highest red flag is Mars-Saturn.

Mars is ruled by Aries and Uranus by Aquarius, so that's not extremely since individual rulers have the affinity of being sextile. However, it has been mentioned it can be bad and can be triggered by transits (hence, the moment when things happen all of the sudden for better or worse).

Just like I mentioned above about having a prominent Saturnian chart to be able to handle Mars-Saturn is the the same for Mars-Uranian. It would help if you were Uranian nataly already to be able to handle the sudden changes.

I never rule out anything. We experience these things to learn something from them but I would agree on not wasting my time 🙂

Not extremely *bad

it was very insightful, thanks