Does Secrecy Thrill A SAG?

And....do you feel that pulling the wool over someone's eyes is exciting to you?
I believe my Sag is that way..likes to get away with things behind my back. If I bring it out into the light sag becomes very defensive. It's a mischeveous delight for them I think, and it almost makes them so happy they giggle to themselves for getting away(or thinking they did) with something. I conceal my knowledge of alot of this sneaky stuff just to watch the reaction saggi has.

Oh I enjoy the child. I think that is great. What I am referring to is getting away with little things behind my back. Some of them are so petty so it seems as if it's a game. Odd I guess. Like pulling over to talk on the cell phone, and telling me it's "A" street their parked on,by the Walmart supercenter, next to Autozone (elaborates) and then I come up right behind him sitting on "Z" street...no where NEAR "A" street. Doesn't seem to be a point. So I wondered if it's something that's exciting to get away with it. I know that sounds weird but people sometimes ask me why there was a stupid lie told by my sag, and I can only shrug. There have been bigger (huge) lies too! And I DID leave, but I'm back......long history.

My brother was a Sag too and he did the same thing. Constantly fabricated stories mixed with just enough truth to make it beleivable. I don't mean to sound Sag bashing....I love them. Just trying to understand the antics. Maybe it's not a Sag thing at all just my luck to know these 2.

Oh Archer you do speak the truth! When the heart of a sag is out to see, it is a wonderful sight. Mine mentally takes on the world. Starving, needy, dirty politicians, rip-off car dealers, inequality, fair housing, unfair taxes and food prices (stops takes a breath and hands out $ 5 to homeless...)bad dental work, drug dealers, pharmacy sucks didn't call in medicine, (takes drink of beer) electric bill too high, mmy smile is nice, dinner smells good, left front tire is going flat......That's just in 2 minutes!🙂

o.k. pranks...I'll take it for that if you think so, just as long as it's not "practicing deception" been there done that.

Well we have an amazing rapport most of the time. We read each other very well and almost always on the same page when we want to go do something. Alot of the same interest. I also have a saggitarius moon though. We like the same food same place to eat, art, music really everything. There is just enough difference to keep us interested. I am the ears and he is the mouth. I listen listen listen, and finally get to say my piece which he politley listens to and thinks about. What I do not like is that he is very impulsive based on spurr of the moment emotions. If he gets mad he could charge into a crowd of gun-bearing hooligans with me in tow and forget I am being put in danger.... I'll be right back archer...have to go get my group lotto tickets.

well i got a chance to think there are some defined set-backs that are kind of constant.
He is always always on the go and most of the time I enjoy that. I love to explore as much as he does. It comes down to timing sometimes I just want to hang around the homefront and he wants to bounce off somewhere. He pouts if I put my foot down about getting something at home done and he wants to go to some amusement park. Money can also be an issue as I am not tight, but I pay bills then play. He likes to play with the bill money sometimes and F the establishment. The biggest chink in the armour of this prince archer is that he tends to see the world as being against HIM even though others are struggling with the same issues or worse. I continually have to remind him that tomorrow he will be bouncing around and bubbly again, and his current issue won't even matter to him. He moves around subjects like a race car driver, and it irks me that he will harp on a subject that has no single solution (woman in third world countries that keep getting pregnant even though they have a starving child). I agree with almost all of his sentiments, but he gets carried away to the point that it wrecks everybody's mood. He is blunt to the point of being hurtfull sometimes, and intentionally will be slightly insulting (I think out of insecurity). I think too that I am much more mindfull of stepping on another's toes and feelings. Sometime-times I can bite with words too though. I'll use big words my saggi doesn't get and then wish I didn't 'cause now I have to explain in detail what I said and it takes the sting out(ha). These are some of the irritating things, but we manage to work things out. We have a very difficult time staying upset with one another. We kiss and make up and get on with living. If life hands us too many problems in a whirlwind, then we tend to fight because we both want our problems to be priority. (I love to gamble and that's a plus)LOL

Why? It's a Good thing to know you have a workable relationship. It's just that saggy want to run. You might be smelling commitment. Virgo Will ask that of you. Yes we are very compatible physically. I personally am not afraid to try anything with my better half or NEARLY anywhere. The outdoors is my playpen. The requirement for myself and many other virgos is to feel totally SAFE with my companion. Safe in a way that although I'm giving the best of what I have to offer, the most private of my feelings and thoughts and actions, I will not not feel vulnerable to critisism. I am my own worst critic so I have to feel extremely comfortable that I am truly wanted and not just being used to be tossed away. (Unless I'm doing the using then I make sure it's mutual:Just kidding)🙂 There definitely some great sex and a feeling like you just slipped in to your favorite pair of slippers or your coziest bathrobe. When you get those feelings hang on to them in your mind and bring them back when you two have a tiff...I remember staying in bed all day several times. We would snack on cheese and crackers and champagne....make love...fall asleep peacefully and wake up and start all over.....it can be quite wonderful.

There is so much positive about this relataionship. Do you like to hike? Chance is virg does too! Fish? Yep...Dance? Yep. Candlelight?yep. Fireplaces and champagne?yep. Las Vegas? Yep, Boating? yep Art shows?yep Movies in bed?yep and the list goes on and on and on and SEX?? YEP YEP YEP Fancy restaraunts?yep Down home diners? yep. Ski resorts?yep. Romantic music?yep. Hot baths together?yep .........hope this makes you feel better didn't mean to scare you!

Are you o.k.—?? I don't think I've heard that noise before? 🙂

i think you'll be great with your virgo!

Jwalker, you sound a LOT like me. for once.

sorry, i meant your profile reminds me a lot of myself, which i rarely see.

By the way Archer, you have a way of charming me right off the subject.....just like you guys...but hey I don't mind a bit. My sag always turns things into his own forum (no offense) Just that he can be in a crowd of people and someone says something like "My dog O'le Jake just had to be put down, and I've had him for 15 years, it really makes me sad". Saggy says " Oh I had a dog named O'le Jake once. I only had him for 10 years. He was a blood hound my father got me for my 5th birthday. I never really did anything for the dog, it was my dad who took care of him. Anyway I think he got heartworms and my uncle tried to feed him raw eggs to get rid of them but I think he got a little better but finally died. Then I got this other dog and named him after Nixon because he had such a huge nose on him. I forget what happened to him though". (Please note that the originator of the topic has received no sympathy on the loss of their beloved pet. Please also note that no one even knows WHAT KIND of DOG the originator had. I think the originator left the party! HA HA!

Archer I thank thee for a truly great conversation. I had thought my day was going to be total poop! You put a light on it AND helped me to remember just why I love my SAG. **HUG** (always tight hugs for me....no wussy stuff)




Wheelhomies: I need to read about you!

That was impromptu too!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. Funny I don't have any Leo in my chart at all but I do have Scorpio rising. We do sound a bit alike.

Wheelhomie: First...How'd you come up with dat name?
Second: How'd you get to be an old soul at 18?
Third: You are very good at the art of expression (except your first post to me)🙂

HEYYYYYYYYYY NO ONE ANSWERED MY ORIGINAL QUESTION!!!! (K....I'LL take that as a yes).😉

hey archer I like the pic on your profile I took the quiz and I'm an enchanted Sorceress!!Good night all!

How the hell did I end up a Mermaid? Silly quiz!

***My sag always turns things into his own forum (no offense) Just that he can be in a crowd of people and someone says something like "My dog O'le Jake just had to be put down, and I've had him for 15 years, it really makes me sad". Saggy says " Oh I had a dog named O'le Jake once. I only had him for 10 years. He was a blood hound my father got me for my 5th birthday. I never really did anything for the dog, it was my dad who took care of him. Anyway I think he got heartworms and my uncle tried to feed him raw eggs to get rid of them but I think he got a little better but finally died. Then I got this other dog and named him after Nixon because he had such a huge nose on him. I forget what happened to him though". (Please note that the originator of the topic has received no sympathy on the loss of their beloved pet. Please also note that no one even knows WHAT KIND of DOG the originator had. I think the originator left the party! HA HA***

OMG!!! I do this. I don't mean too interupted like that but, I know I do the same thing but, I don't know how to stop doing it. I don't realize I do it until someone says something to me. Wow, how weird.

Oh...Archer is right about when they stop doing pranks and jokes and things like that then, I would worry that they don't like you anymore. We naturally joke around with loved ones and we can be sarcastic about it too but, if we didn't care then we wouldn't give you the time of day. I know Sag Guys are somewhat different than Sag women. We are all basically loners but, people usaully don't see that unless they are close to us and we don't let many get close to us but, once we do then, we will be there for you for life.

haa haa....Dear Archie ...U are fighting a lost battle.

Morning All (cheers with the flavored coffee)Do you guys really see yourselves as loners? That suprises me. Who the heck would you talk to? I just can't picture my Sag not fluttering about in some social scene taking center stage. Now as far as WORK goes he prefers to work alone. Not with direct supervisions. I think though, he would go quite nutzoid if there weren't any ears about to listen up to the philosophy he's choosen to target for the day with his directed arrow. Could just be that all the damn red lights are not coodinated properly! LOL

"....we don't let many get close to us but, once we do then, we will be there for you for life"

I find that is true if speaking of the DEEP archer. Many of the social scenes my saggi is in are just that. They don't really have a CLUE about the real McCoy. Saggi truly shines in a public setting, but I have to have a suit of emotional armour for some of the darker side displays. Today he is not so "up" talking to me on the phone,(quite perturbed with life actually) and then while he's talking how much he hates his job, he spots someone he knows and hollers to them (and in my phone ear) "HEEEYEEY HOW ARE YA!"
Now I KNOW that person has NO idea that Saggi just wants to go home and sleep while listening to a gentle rain on the roof-top, and leave this smelly ole world behind!

HI Arch....sorry you are 😢...funny,I must have been typing my last post about my saggi at the same you were sending yours). (I found the "rain" thing intriguing). Would you care to elaborate on the goose chase or just quietly melt away my dear? I am all ears if you need 'em. LOL.....Me and my sag have often longed to have a nice log cabin somewhere far away from normal civilization. You know, close enough to commute to dining out, but far enough away for seclusion. One foot in one foot out.AHHHHH Someday!!! Cheer up and rest up.....Oh NOOOOOOO here comes ANNIE........"The sun will come out TOMORROW bet your bottom dollar that TOMORROW there will be SUUUUNNNNNNN........🙂" Guess she saw you pout...(tap dancing away now).

P.S. ARCHER...You should be worn out for heavens sake you're 107 years old! Give yourself a break. Night night...drip drip patter patter patter patter drip zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Jwalker.....I will have to say that there are very few people who will know that we are loners. We don't like to bring people down. We prefer to cheer them up. I love to do home projects and work in my yard by myself. It gives me peace and quit. I will rarely let anyone see me cry over personal issues but, I can watch a sad movie and have no problem crying my eyes out. I enjoy helping people and bring their spirits up. If I do get upset about something serious than I usually write it down to get it out or I avoid people for a little bit. I always bounce back though. I also, can be really upset about something and one of my friends will call and my tone of voice will change to happy and cheerful so, they usually don't know that I have any problems. I'm the one that most people come to when they need something because they always know I will be there for them even if it is just to talk. The sad thing is that I don't have anyone to go to for my problems because I don't like to burdan anyone with them. I can usually show that things don't bother me when they actually do but, I think that is just how I protect myself from being too vulnerable. I'm always the rock for so many people and I can't let them down and I don't want to. Maybe someday I will find my rock but, it will have to be someone that I know will never go away or use it against me, and I have not found that yet.

sw69: I know instinctively it is the nature to be the helpfull one and the one to come to when in need. This seems to happen to me as well. Funny thing in my relationship is that I think my Saggi found his rock, and when he is down I won't let my worries and woes be known because I need to pick his spirits up. I have a hard time because if I am down and my saggi is up he just gets irritated with me being down and acts like I'm doing it by choice when really it's just a mood. I'm much less judgemental than he is. I understand what you mean about the yard work too. Me and him have built decks and do landscaping and just have a great time with our projects. AND we both like to have company announce that they are coming instead of dropping by unexpectadly. We like our privacy very much. You sound like a wonderful person SW😉

Archer.......I read your post too and I see myself in alot of them. Alot of times I don't even bother responding because you already did so, I didn't have too. Sorry about the BS that you went through. Glad your day is better 🙂

Forget everything Archie ..herez a joke for U -

Push Ups


A man is doing push ups on the beach.

A drunk Bholaji sees him and starts laughing and says "Sorry to tell you , but the woman below you has left".

Wow Jwalker!!!

You have just brought up all the same feelings I had for a sag boy I really liked!! I can really relate to you!

The difference is that our relationship was short-lived! (unfortunately 😢 )

Sag's teach the earth signs to have fun! I just loved my sag's clumsiness and even when I were mad with him, he would somehow always make me smile!!

I am a Taurus, and unfortunately I think I was too boring for him or otherwise too serious for him!!!

I am just interested to know what was your magical recipe to make him fall head over heels for you? Perhaps I can learn from you?

Q-girl, I think it is a balance between being practical and silly that keeps my sag around really. We were apart for about a year cause saggi couldn't keep it at home but he continually tried to get me back just 2 months after making a total disaster of our lives. After a period of time ( I said I'd never go back) he broke down my walls and I think my act of forgiveness has deepened our bond. I can also be slap-stick and clumsy too as I have a sag moon. There are so many things that bond us like I was the only one there w/him when his mother died, and helped him through it. Let her live with us before that and treated her like my own. I don't know if there is anything magical,cause we STILL get bored with other occassionaly. Just as abscence makes the heart grow fonder so does familiarity breed contempt. You can only tell the same story so many times before it becomes a bore. lol

Q-Girl, I would also say to allow them freedom to breath but not to roam. It takes a while I think for a Sag to really consider settling down, and then if you are the lucky girl/guy then you have to be prepared to never really stay in one place. I have moved my household 9 times in 14 years. (Not EVEN funny for a home-based Virgo). AHHHH the things we do for love 😛

"but he continually tried to get me back just 2 months after"

Okay... so JW have you just said (if I understood it correctly) that Sag's if they really want someone they are persistent?...

I have this perception that Sag people are too centred on themselves (on their needs and wants) and that sometimes they tend to overlook their partners needs... But when it comes to friends, it seems to be a different issue!! They concentrate their efforts in trying to satisfy their friend needs...

I know how much socializing and friendships are important to them...i just never knew what he was feeling for me (and still don't)... am just wondering if sag's also get scared about letting their partners know how they truly feel inside?

I have really enjoyed being in this forum!!! You seem to be sooooo much in love and its so nice to see someone talk so sweetly about their partners...

I do really wish the two of you all the best 😉

Thank you....We've been through so much we are only starting to KNOW what loving is. From my experience alone I think yes, a Sag will persue and relentlessly so, the object of their desire. Months and months went by when I wouldn't say a word or answer any phone calls and still he persisted. Prior to the relationship, we met and it was like *BANG* instant attraction. Well we fought off and on and early on I left a couple of times because this saggi has a struggle big time with jealousy. I was constantly being accused of seeing an old boyfriend or going somewhere I shouldn't have on and on. When I would leave he'd wait about 2 days and come bak around. (I have since gotten wise to the fact that his jealousy was based on how HE acted not me). Well I can't count some of the explosive blow ups we had, but it always came back to the really GOOD stuff between us. Somehow we got into each others heart and grew on each other. He found out that I was dependable and loyal, and I found out he was always willing to change. (A big plus for me).
The friendships, I view, are my saggi's crutch so to speak. I think in his spirit he knows that without the positive feed-back he gets from other people he would beat himself to death with either negativity or self hatred. He proclaims to the outside world that he is superb (which to me he is) but inside I find that he is like a ball of yarn or a loose string on a hem. If someone pulls it just right, the whole thing will unravell. They gain inner strength by being the court jester and a helping hand to others. I think it's great. But there is a dark side to the saggi he will not let many see. If you get that close to yours just be sure that the outside world doesn't get all the good stuff, and you get the "Darth Vader". He will need to vent the inner truth somewhere, and a social scene will not be IT. (Sorry for long windedness)😛

Thanks JWalker!

Will keep your inputs in mind!!!

Like I said before... I truly wish you guys all the best and am sure your life will continue being full of surprises with a sag around!!! 😉