truecap
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Is this a Sag taking advantage of a friend?
I think the Sag knows we are her true blue/help hide the body friends so she doesn't abuse us like that. We're the ones who are the first ones to arrive to a party, last to leave after cleaning everything, etc.
So, do you have an entourage and would you all them to do all the crappy chores for you?
I don't know if this is coming out the way I intended, but I am hoping you get the drift of the question.
So, do you have an entourage and would you all them to do all the crappy chores for you?
I don't know if this is coming out the way I intended, but I am hoping you get the drift of the question.
Posted by DMVPosted by truecap
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That may sound jealous, but it's not.
no comment.click to expand
No, really, it's not jealousy. I have other friends, too, besides her. It's just I've noticed the dynamic and how these folks come and go over the years. I'm jsut curious if other Sags have this stuff going on. And if so, how do you feel about it or do you even notice it?
Do you have different levels of friends? If so, how do you interact with and treat friends of the different levels.
Sag love attention if they know someone will do things for them yes they take advantage of them.
Example I am ex friends with a sag she was an attention whore. She was fun in my partying days but I remember one of her friends lost her phone at a club then left right after I was the only one that stayed trying to help her find it.
2 months go by phone stolen in my possession she had the nerve to try to bully me into paying her $ 200 to get a new phone but never asked the girl who lost her phone before me for money.
Her reason well you have money she doesn't. Unbelievable I told her you are responsible for your phone sweetie and I dare you try to give me that bs excuse.
She went her way I went mine and she is still friends with people who talk about her behind her back!
Example I am ex friends with a sag she was an attention whore. She was fun in my partying days but I remember one of her friends lost her phone at a club then left right after I was the only one that stayed trying to help her find it.
2 months go by phone stolen in my possession she had the nerve to try to bully me into paying her $ 200 to get a new phone but never asked the girl who lost her phone before me for money.
Her reason well you have money she doesn't. Unbelievable I told her you are responsible for your phone sweetie and I dare you try to give me that bs excuse.
She went her way I went mine and she is still friends with people who talk about her behind her back!
Posted by Octoberbaby91
she is still friends with people who talk about her behind her back!
I've noticed that too. She has so-called friends who have betrayed her and she keeps giving them chance after chance. Betray me and we're done.
It's quite entertaining to watch the groupies and how they interact.
When I was in my party phase I had different levels of friends and still do to an extent. I had a tight circle, which were people I had known for years. Those were the ones who I may not see often, but whom I trusted and told my secrets to (childhood friends and sisters). I had my party friends, the ones I hung out with when I wanted to party or have a good time. And I had associates, the people I chatted with only if I saw them out.
My sisters always felt that my party friends were "groupies", in that they used me to get into parties, and meet people, but I felt the friendships were mutually beneficial because we always had a good time when we were together.
I rarely party anymore, but the levels of friendship are still the same. The only thing that has changed is that my party circle has gotten smaller.
My sisters always felt that my party friends were "groupies", in that they used me to get into parties, and meet people, but I felt the friendships were mutually beneficial because we always had a good time when we were together.
I rarely party anymore, but the levels of friendship are still the same. The only thing that has changed is that my party circle has gotten smaller.
^^^^
I forgot to mention her high school friends only contacted her to get in parties too! We use to hang out everyday she would only see her long ago friends if they wanted to get in a local party. Or they only came around when they needed help.
It was some that was phony not all. The ones who didn't use her we're going to school in another part of the state or out of state.
I am the same way which is why we are done! I have a low tolerance for bs.
I forgot to mention her high school friends only contacted her to get in parties too! We use to hang out everyday she would only see her long ago friends if they wanted to get in a local party. Or they only came around when they needed help.
It was some that was phony not all. The ones who didn't use her we're going to school in another part of the state or out of state.
I am the same way which is why we are done! I have a low tolerance for bs.
Good question. I wouldn't ask for things like that unless they were a good friend.
Things like rides to the airport or chores when I'm out of town I would accept and reciprocate.
I DO have an issue with handling female friends when it comes to bullshit and negativity. I let it go until it smacks me in the face. Sometimes I find it hard to believe that people could be intentionally shitty so I just go about my merry way. Need to learn how to be less trusting, more choosy, and guarded when it comes to female friends. 😢
Things like rides to the airport or chores when I'm out of town I would accept and reciprocate.
I DO have an issue with handling female friends when it comes to bullshit and negativity. I let it go until it smacks me in the face. Sometimes I find it hard to believe that people could be intentionally shitty so I just go about my merry way. Need to learn how to be less trusting, more choosy, and guarded when it comes to female friends. 😢
Posted by truecapPosted by DMVPosted by truecap
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That may sound jealous, but it's not.
no comment.
No, really, it's not jealousy. I have other friends, too, besides her. It's just I've noticed the dynamic and how these folks come and go over the years. I'm jsut curious if other Sags have this stuff going on. And if so, how do you feel about it or do you even notice it?
Do you have different levels of friends? If so, how do you interact with and treat friends of the different levels.
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i dont really get the question. I mean, what are friends for?
Just like SunMoonStars, I only ask favors from my tight circle and that's most likely my sisters.
As far as BS, that's why there's levels to this. With that, I know who to tell my business to and who to keep it strictly "lets go grab a drink" with.
As far as BS, that's why there's levels to this. With that, I know who to tell my business to and who to keep it strictly "lets go grab a drink" with.
Posted by DMVPosted by truecapPosted by DMVPosted by truecap
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That may sound jealous, but it's not.
no comment.
No, really, it's not jealousy. I have other friends, too, besides her. It's just I've noticed the dynamic and how these folks come and go over the years. I'm jsut curious if other Sags have this stuff going on. And if so, how do you feel about it or do you even notice it?
Do you have different levels of friends? If so, how do you interact with and treat friends of the different levels.
i dont really get the question. I mean, what are friends for?click to expand
I know. Friends do that stuff. That
s what friends do.
It's just interesting how she allows the "groupie" friends to do the unpleasant tasks.
They sound like "friends" who do what they have to do, even when they or someone else deems it unpleasant.
You kinda sound like your friendship is conditional. If my friend needed something, i would be there regardless of the reason or what they ask of me. Even if what they ask of me is unpleasant.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
Posted by DMV
You kinda sound like your friendship is conditional. If my friend needed something, i would be there regardless of the reason or what they ask of me. Even if what they ask of me is unpleasant.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
I did offer to do those things. I have a 1 1/2 hour commute to work one way. She told me she knew I really didn't have time to do those things. I was honest, on here (not to her) and said I was relieved. So, no, it's not conditional.
It's almost like the "groupie" friends compete to do those things for her.
Posted by DMV
You kinda sound like your friendship is conditional. If my friend needed something, i would be there regardless of the reason or what they ask of me. Even if what they ask of me is unpleasant.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
I've been there for the unpleasant things. I've helped her pack, helped her move (three times), helped her when her mother was dying, been there when she was in the hospital, helped them cut wood one entire weekend, helped clean up after every event she's hosted.... So, no. I don't turn my nose up when it doesn't suit my image.
Posted by truecapPosted by DMV
You kinda sound like your friendship is conditional. If my friend needed something, i would be there regardless of the reason or what they ask of me. Even if what they ask of me is unpleasant.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
I did offer to do those things. I have a 1 1/2 hour commute to work one way. She told me she knew I really didn't have time to do those things. I was honest, on here (not to her) and said I was relieved. So, no, it's not conditional.
It's almost like the "groupie" friends compete to do those things for her.click to expand
than, you look down on the people who do offer to do what you deem beneath you. you even call them names.
i mean, whats that all about??
Ok, this is just my experience with my Virgo Sun Cappy moon gf so take it for what it is!
I would never ask her to do anything because she complains a lot and seems petty in her speech about other people. She's also highly critical.For example, her roommate (leo male) will text her something like, "hi, Aaron is staying over tonight". She'll read it and say to me "why the hell is he telling me, I don't care, do I need to know this *eye roll*. Or she'll read an email in front of me and basically diss it "what, like I don't know that??" etc. Or, she's actually complained about giving rides before to her roommate "oh he just wants me to go to give him a ride, why would I want to do that??"
I'm not going to lie,it makes me feel very uncomfortable and wonder if she talks like that behind my back. I've actually asked her straight and she said..no, I respect you. We would have to get into like 15 fights before that point.
I've been seriously debating how close I want to be with her after I step back from my position at work. Yes, we work together too, LONG STORY. She just seems to me like someone who is too petty and negative. As a Saggy, it's not healthy for me to be around someone like that 😢
We've talked about going into business together but now I don't think i want to. I feel like with her, she will always have to be the one that gets more of the pie. She seems like she's always keeping score, and can get jealous and spiteful. She admitted this,..last week she said "I really need to stop doing things out of spite". Wha.......??
I would never ask her to do anything because she complains a lot and seems petty in her speech about other people. She's also highly critical.For example, her roommate (leo male) will text her something like, "hi, Aaron is staying over tonight". She'll read it and say to me "why the hell is he telling me, I don't care, do I need to know this *eye roll*. Or she'll read an email in front of me and basically diss it "what, like I don't know that??" etc. Or, she's actually complained about giving rides before to her roommate "oh he just wants me to go to give him a ride, why would I want to do that??"
I'm not going to lie,it makes me feel very uncomfortable and wonder if she talks like that behind my back. I've actually asked her straight and she said..no, I respect you. We would have to get into like 15 fights before that point.
I've been seriously debating how close I want to be with her after I step back from my position at work. Yes, we work together too, LONG STORY. She just seems to me like someone who is too petty and negative. As a Saggy, it's not healthy for me to be around someone like that 😢
We've talked about going into business together but now I don't think i want to. I feel like with her, she will always have to be the one that gets more of the pie. She seems like she's always keeping score, and can get jealous and spiteful. She admitted this,..last week she said "I really need to stop doing things out of spite". Wha.......??
idk. all of it sounds crazy. What kind of world do we live in where others are judged for helping someone?
Posted by DMVPosted by truecapPosted by DMV
You kinda sound like your friendship is conditional. If my friend needed something, i would be there regardless of the reason or what they ask of me. Even if what they ask of me is unpleasant.
she doesnt ask you because at the end of the day, she knows that you turn your nose up when things dont suit your image.
I did offer to do those things. I have a 1 1/2 hour commute to work one way. She told me she knew I really didn't have time to do those things. I was honest, on here (not to her) and said I was relieved. So, no, it's not conditional.
It's almost like the "groupie" friends compete to do those things for her.
than, you look down on the people who do offer to do what you deem beneath you. you even call them names.
i mean, whats that all about??click to expand
I'm not necessarily looking down on them. I never said the stuff was beneath me. I just think the dynamic is interesting and wondered if she might be taking advantage of them. Over the last 20 years, the groupie friends are the friends who come and go, might hang around for 6 months or a year, then all of a sudden they aren't coming around any more.
Posted by DMV
idk. all of it sounds crazy. What kind of world do we live in where others are judged for helping someone?
Again, I'm not judging. Was just trying to explain the dynamics.
Hope my contribution to the topic wasn't harsh
Just wanted to say I think truecap is awesome! 🙂
Just wanted to say I think truecap is awesome! 🙂
Posted by SunMoonStars
Ok, this is just my experience with my Virgo Sun Cappy moon gf so take it for what it is!
I would never ask her to do anything because she complains a lot and seems petty in her speech about other people. She's also highly critical.For example, her roommate (leo male) will text her something like, "hi, Aaron is staying over tonight". She'll read it and say to me "why the hell is he telling me, I don't care, do I need to know this *eye roll*. Or she'll read an email in front of me and basically diss it "what, like I don't know that??" etc. Or, she's actually complained about giving rides before to her roommate "oh he just wants me to go to give him a ride, why would I want to do that??"
I'm not going to lie,it makes me feel very uncomfortable and wonder if she talks like that behind my back. I've actually asked her straight and she said..no, I respect you. We would have to get into like 15 fights before that point.
I've been seriously debating how close I want to be with her after I step back from my position at work. Yes, we work together too, LONG STORY. She just seems to me like someone who is too petty and negative. As a Saggy, it's not healthy for me to be around someone like that 😢
We've talked about going into business together but now I don't think i want to. I feel like with her, she will always have to be the one that gets more of the pie. She seems like she's always keeping score, and can get jealous and spiteful. She admitted this,..last week she said "I really need to stop doing things out of spite". Wha.......??
Hmmmm....thinking.....
I've probably done this kind of thing before. But hasn't everyone?
Posted by SunMoonStars
Hope my contribution to the topic wasn't harsh
Just wanted to say I think truecap is awesome! 🙂
Not at all...something to consider.
Posted by Ulalume
A closed mouth don't get fed period.
I wouldn't put this on the Sag. Some people are more people pleasing
than others and take no issue helping someone out they deem a friend.
For me it would be a red flag if these deeds aren't being reciprocated
by the Sag to said friend(s).
So, do you have an entourage and would you all them to do all the crappy chores for you?
I kinda did awhile ago. Though I wouldn't dare call them my "entourage" lol.
I had an Aries and a Cancer friend that were uber team Ulalume.
They took no issue doing things for me. At one point they were jealous
of each other.
This was what I was trying to ask.
Posted by truecapPosted by SunMoonStars
Ok, this is just my experience with my Virgo Sun Cappy moon gf so take it for what it is!
I would never ask her to do anything because she complains a lot and seems petty in her speech about other people. She's also highly critical.For example, her roommate (leo male) will text her something like, "hi, Aaron is staying over tonight". She'll read it and say to me "why the hell is he telling me, I don't care, do I need to know this *eye roll*. Or she'll read an email in front of me and basically diss it "what, like I don't know that??" etc. Or, she's actually complained about giving rides before to her roommate "oh he just wants me to go to give him a ride, why would I want to do that??"
I'm not going to lie,it makes me feel very uncomfortable and wonder if she talks like that behind my back. I've actually asked her straight and she said..no, I respect you. We would have to get into like 15 fights before that point.
I've been seriously debating how close I want to be with her after I step back from my position at work. Yes, we work together too, LONG STORY. She just seems to me like someone who is too petty and negative. As a Saggy, it's not healthy for me to be around someone like that 😢
We've talked about going into business together but now I don't think i want to. I feel like with her, she will always have to be the one that gets more of the pie. She seems like she's always keeping score, and can get jealous and spiteful. She admitted this,..last week she said "I really need to stop doing things out of spite". Wha.......??
Hmmmm....thinking.....
I've probably done this kind of thing before. But hasn't everyone?click to expand
SunMoonStars hit the nail on the head.
"I've probably done this kind of thing before. But hasnt everybody?"
The answer is no, not if you're true friends. True Cap, you can take what I'm about to say for what it's worth but its up to you to understand.
Saggies are very very generous and kind people despite our other faults. We give without question. The reason why she doesn't come to you, is because you've probably lectured her or indicated some sort displeasure when she's asked. The thing is...it's fucked up especially is she's helped you and never judged you and happily obliged without questio
Posted by truecapPosted by SunMoonStars
Ok, this is just my experience with my Virgo Sun Cappy moon gf so take it for what it is!
I would never ask her to do anything because she complains a lot and seems petty in her speech about other people. She's also highly critical.For example, her roommate (leo male) will text her something like, "hi, Aaron is staying over tonight". She'll read it and say to me "why the hell is he telling me, I don't care, do I need to know this *eye roll*. Or she'll read an email in front of me and basically diss it "what, like I don't know that??" etc. Or, she's actually complained about giving rides before to her roommate "oh he just wants me to go to give him a ride, why would I want to do that??"
I'm not going to lie,it makes me feel very uncomfortable and wonder if she talks like that behind my back. I've actually asked her straight and she said..no, I respect you. We would have to get into like 15 fights before that point.
I've been seriously debating how close I want to be with her after I step back from my position at work. Yes, we work together too, LONG STORY. She just seems to me like someone who is too petty and negative. As a Saggy, it's not healthy for me to be around someone like that 😢
We've talked about going into business together but now I don't think i want to. I feel like with her, she will always have to be the one that gets more of the pie. She seems like she's always keeping score, and can get jealous and spiteful. She admitted this,..last week she said "I really need to stop doing things out of spite". Wha.......??
Hmmmm....thinking.....
I've probably done this kind of thing before. But hasn't everyone?click to expand
SunMoonStars hit the nail on the head.
"I've probably done this kind of thing before. But hasnt everybody?"
The answer is no, not if you're true friends. True Cap, you can take what I'm about to say for what it's worth but its up to you to understand.
Saggies are very very generous and kind people despite our other faults. We give without question. The reason why she doesn't come to you, is because you've probably lectured her or indicated some sort displeasure when she's asked. The thing is...it's fucked up especially is she's helped you and never judged you and happily obliged without questio
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Saggies are very very generous and kind people despite our other faults. We give without question. The reason why she doesn't come to you, is because you've probably lectured her or indicated some sort displeasure when she's asked. The thing is...it's fucked up especially is she's helped you and never judged you and happily obliged without question. You essentially torture someone when you do that. We already don't like asking for help, so when we do it's because we need to. While everybody does it, she isn't everybody and treats you special. When you lecture her when she's ask, you show her that you're not her friend and are acting like she's not specisl. Why, because you don't smack somebody with one hand while extending the other pretending you're helping as if you're superior. Your not her mother, you're her friend and are equally imperfect and wouldn't want somebody to do that to use. It's cruel, unsympathetic, especially if she's nebet done it to you. When you help, it is to be done in compassion but the onky way only shows spite.
So, she goes to those "groupies" because they show her the same kindness. You don't know what she's done for them because we don't brag about helping others we just simply do it especially if they're someone we really care about. Plus, if she did tell you, you probably lecture her about it after the fact that she's helped you at some point even if you just needed someone around. Also, she goes to them because you've made her feel like she needs you and she showing you that she doesn't. Rather than see this and your error, you're now trying to say she's using them and thus proving you don't care for her despite you being friends all this time...that is how it comes across and the thread shows you're made and jealous...just being honest.
You're upset because she doing what you can't bring yourself to do. Show compassion and sympathy without judgement. This is a lesson for you and she's demonstsrting through action how it's supposed to be. You either see it or don't but a Sag will simply leave you to learn on your own and we move forward. People get mad and blame us, but it's mainly on them. Nobody is perfect and we are positive. We give you a chance, but if the person continues to mistreat us, we keep it moving. Hence why some people stay in her lives while others come and go. Good luck...
Saggies are very very generous and kind people despite our other faults. We give without question. The reason why she doesn't come to you, is because you've probably lectured her or indicated some sort displeasure when she's asked. The thing is...it's fucked up especially is she's helped you and never judged you and happily obliged without question. You essentially torture someone when you do that. We already don't like asking for help, so when we do it's because we need to. While everybody does it, she isn't everybody and treats you special. When you lecture her when she's ask, you show her that you're not her friend and are acting like she's not specisl. Why, because you don't smack somebody with one hand while extending the other pretending you're helping as if you're superior. Your not her mother, you're her friend and are equally imperfect and wouldn't want somebody to do that to use. It's cruel, unsympathetic, especially if she's nebet done it to you. When you help, it is to be done in compassion but the onky way only shows spite.
So, she goes to those "groupies" because they show her the same kindness. You don't know what she's done for them because we don't brag about helping others we just simply do it especially if they're someone we really care about. Plus, if she did tell you, you probably lecture her about it after the fact that she's helped you at some point even if you just needed someone around. Also, she goes to them because you've made her feel like she needs you and she showing you that she doesn't. Rather than see this and your error, you're now trying to say she's using them and thus proving you don't care for her despite you being friends all this time...that is how it comes across and the thread shows you're made and jealous...just being honest.
You're upset because she doing what you can't bring yourself to do. Show compassion and sympathy without judgement. This is a lesson for you and she's demonstsrting through action how it's supposed to be. You either see it or don't but a Sag will simply leave you to learn on your own and we move forward. People get mad and blame us, but it's mainly on them. Nobody is perfect and we are positive. We give you a chance, but if the person continues to mistreat us, we keep it moving. Hence why some people stay in her lives while others come and go. Good luck...
I think a lot of it depends on timing.
Fire signs have a different timing than Earth signs. It doesn't have to be generous vs petty.
For instance with petty stuff like running errands, I've seen fire signs again and again having a blindspot about that. Don't know how to explain it..it's like errands aren't part of their Universe..there's other important things to attent do all the time. So the Earth signs who likes having it all checked out, looks down on them because it seems like they could help themselves. I had a lot of calls like "Please can you go there and pay that bill for me/pick up that parcel from the train station? I have no time to do it today" from fire signs. But I loves them and it doesn't inconvenience me at all.
They make up for it in other ways..still on their timing. God damn annoying fire signs 😛
Fire signs have a different timing than Earth signs. It doesn't have to be generous vs petty.
For instance with petty stuff like running errands, I've seen fire signs again and again having a blindspot about that. Don't know how to explain it..it's like errands aren't part of their Universe..there's other important things to attent do all the time. So the Earth signs who likes having it all checked out, looks down on them because it seems like they could help themselves. I had a lot of calls like "Please can you go there and pay that bill for me/pick up that parcel from the train station? I have no time to do it today" from fire signs. But I loves them and it doesn't inconvenience me at all.
They make up for it in other ways..still on their timing. God damn annoying fire signs 😛
Posted by Damnata
I think a lot of it depends on timing.
Fire signs have a different timing than Earth signs. It doesn't have to be generous vs petty.
For instance with petty stuff like running errands, I've seen fire signs again and again having a blindspot about that. Don't know how to explain it..it's like errands aren't part of their Universe..there's other important things to attent do all the time. So the Earth signs who likes having it all checked out, looks down on them because it seems like they could help themselves. I had a lot of calls like "Please can you go there and pay that bill for me/pick up that parcel from the train station? I have no time to do it today" from fire signs. But I loves them and it doesn't inconvenience me at all.
They make up for it in other ways..still on their timing. God damn annoying fire signs 😛
Damn you sign of service 😛
Posted by beautifulsoul74
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Saggies are very very generous and kind people despite our other faults. We give without question. The reason why she doesn't come to you, is because you've probably lectured her or indicated some sort displeasure when she's asked. The thing is...it's fucked up especially is she's helped you and never judged you and happily obliged without question. You essentially torture someone when you do that. We already don't like asking for help, so when we do it's because we need to. While everybody does it, she isn't everybody and treats you special. When you lecture her when she's ask, you show her that you're not her friend and are acting like she's not specisl. Why, because you don't smack somebody with one hand while extending the other pretending you're helping as if you're superior. Your not her mother, you're her friend and are equally imperfect and wouldn't want somebody to do that to use. It's cruel, unsympathetic, especially if she's nebet done it to you. When you help, it is to be done in compassion but the onky way only shows spite.
So, she goes to those "groupies" because they show her the same kindness. You don't know what she's done for them because we don't brag about helping others we just simply do it especially if they're someone we really care about. Plus, if she did tell you, you probably lecture her about it after the fact that she's helped you at some point even if you just needed someone around. Also, she goes to them because you've made her feel like she needs you and she showing you that she doesn't. Rather than see this and your error, you're now trying to say she's using them and thus proving you don't care for her despite you being friends all this time...that is how it comes across and the thread shows you're made and jealous...just being honest.
You're upset because she doing what you can't bring yourself to do. Show compassion and sympathy without judgement. This is a lesson for you and she's demonstsrting through action how it's supposed to be. You either see it or don't but a Sag will simply leave you to learn on your own and we move forward. People get mad and blame us, but it's mainly on them. Nobody is perfect and we are positive. We give you a chance, but if the person continues to mistreat us, we keep it moving. Hence why some people stay in her lives while others come and go. Good luck...
Again, the question was NOT about me and why she doesn't ask me to do things for her. I'm not upset here. I don't think I asked my question properly. It was never about mine and hers friendship. We do help and assist each other all the time.
It just seems that she takes advantage of some of these people. That was my question. So, she probably does do things for them as well. Some of the things she asks them to do are unbelievable.
It just seems that she takes advantage of some of these people. That was my question. So, she probably does do things for them as well. Some of the things she asks them to do are unbelievable.
Oh to provide an example.
A month or so ago I had to travel to organize an event. I was supposed to take a train back home but there was still stuff to be done so I found myself at 10 pm missing the last train and by myself in that city.
I have an earth sign friend and a Sag friend living in that city.
I knew if I was going to call the earth sign friend I would first have a lecture about "Why didn't you plan this thoroughly? Why didn't you tell me about it beforehand?". It was the last thing I needed at that point, even though I love fellow earth signs..we are annoying with out lectures.
So I called the Sag. He didn't even let me explain the situation "Sure, come on over. Let me place an order for pizza. What type do you want?"
A month or so ago I had to travel to organize an event. I was supposed to take a train back home but there was still stuff to be done so I found myself at 10 pm missing the last train and by myself in that city.
I have an earth sign friend and a Sag friend living in that city.
I knew if I was going to call the earth sign friend I would first have a lecture about "Why didn't you plan this thoroughly? Why didn't you tell me about it beforehand?". It was the last thing I needed at that point, even though I love fellow earth signs..we are annoying with out lectures.
So I called the Sag. He didn't even let me explain the situation "Sure, come on over. Let me place an order for pizza. What type do you want?"
Yes, Sags are great like that! They're a good influence on me. I love their energy and can-do attitude. I suppose everyone else does too. 🙂
Posted by truecap
Again, the question was NOT about me and why she doesn't ask me to do things for her. I'm not upset here. I don't think I asked my question properly. It was never about mine and hers friendship. We do help and assist each other all the time.
It just seems that she takes advantage of some of these people. That was my question. So, she probably does do things for them as well. Some of the things she asks them to do are unbelievable.
If she does and they do unbelievable things for her, then questioning it is actually and exercise in futility because you don't know the impact or details of her contributions to them. It may appear small to you, but what she does may really count in their eyes especially if they've never received any kindness before.
Like I said, we tend not to talk about those things with others out of consideration...even with our closest friends. Chalk it up to Jupiter and his generous luck that blesses us
Posted by beautifulsoul74Posted by truecap
Again, the question was NOT about me and why she doesn't ask me to do things for her. I'm not upset here. I don't think I asked my question properly. It was never about mine and hers friendship. We do help and assist each other all the time.
It just seems that she takes advantage of some of these people. That was my question. So, she probably does do things for them as well. Some of the things she asks them to do are unbelievable.
If she does and they do unbelievable things for her, then questioning it is actually and exercise in futility because you don't know the impact or details of her contributions to them. It may appear small to you, but what she does may really count in their eyes especially if they've never received any kindness before.
Like I said, we tend not to talk about those things with others out of consideration...even with our closest friends. Chalk it up to Jupiter and his generous luck that blesses usclick to expand
I'll buy that and value it. Her big heart is one thing I love about her.
So perhaps, she isn't taking advantage - they're probably just kind people who do things for other people too. And some feel like they are paying back a favor she's done for them.
It's really hard for me to let people do things for me - I'm too independent for my own good and don't ever want to feel like I'm putting someone out, so I may just have a hard time understanding the dynamic.
^^^
Understood and I apologize for being mean earlier.
Don't think about it, just do it 🙂. Life's too short to short to think about the what ifs. Just help and know that it is returned to you...and exactly when it's needed. That you can trust.
Understood and I apologize for being mean earlier.
Don't think about it, just do it 🙂. Life's too short to short to think about the what ifs. Just help and know that it is returned to you...and exactly when it's needed. That you can trust.
1. Moon was in Taurus on th 6th. So ...
2. Sag Sun has Moon in what? Rising? Venus? Mars? Cap? Scorp?...
3. It can also be a chosen strategy to ask people to do things. Building a team. Training them that GOOD PEOPLE are not necessarily CHEAP PEOPLE. Give and take.
4. There may be some exchange in the background. Your Sag friend may see no reason to tell all about what she has done for them groupies.
5. This story reminds me of the movie Georgia Rule. She had these boys around her who did things for her.
2. Sag Sun has Moon in what? Rising? Venus? Mars? Cap? Scorp?...
3. It can also be a chosen strategy to ask people to do things. Building a team. Training them that GOOD PEOPLE are not necessarily CHEAP PEOPLE. Give and take.
4. There may be some exchange in the background. Your Sag friend may see no reason to tell all about what she has done for them groupies.
5. This story reminds me of the movie Georgia Rule. She had these boys around her who did things for her.
She has moon in Aries, mercury in Cap, venus in Sag and mars in Pisces. I don't know the rising.
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Go shopping and doing fun stuff, or needing to really talk to someone she asks me or our other friend(just so yall don't think she doesn't ask me to do stuff. lol!).
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