Edmon Adoniz
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Posted by DyTryin
ewash: One of my main concern is whether a contributor's conclusion follows logically (or statistically) from his or her premise.
Then, using your own "highly logical" standards, YOUR Premise: my comment refers to the stubborn persistence (or resistance) that some Scorpio women have when facing the truth is "logical nonsense."
FYI: I was married to a Libra Woman for 20+ years, so I am quite familiar with the Libran inability to recognize, analyze, or otherwise accept facts.
But don't just take my word for it...
DY to all DXP Scorpio Women: How many of you have had a successful relationship with a Libra Man??
(This is called - fact finding.)
You may want to carefully (re)consider what you say before posting; for you do appear to have the slightest clue about utilizing logic properly in a debate. That is, my premise set, actually, consists of the claim that some Scorpio women are stubborn, particularly when confronting the truth (and even more so when their respective women pride is at stake.)
To argue that the above claim is 'logical nonsense' is to say that the above claim is inherently, or self-, contradictory (i.e., necessarily false or false in all possible cases/worlds.) Now tell me whether it is, actually, self-contradictory to claim that SOME Scorpio woman are stubborn, even as I have stated? You may want to resile your argument in about T minus 30 secs from reading this response.
P.S. An 'appeal to crowd' is a NOT valid or invalid argument, let alone sound one. Rather, it is just another informal fallacy. (Not 'fact finding' but 'fallacious reasoning committing') 'Just saying...
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: I have no care whatsoever for what anyone's says...
And yet... you've created threads soliciting our inputs on Scorpio Women...
Which means: You must, whether you realize it or not, accept that there are some common traits / tendencies that distinguish Scorpio Women from other women...
And yet: You do not accept as logical an objective comparison of the opposing traits between Libras & Scorpios that - astrologically speaking - make the relationship difficult...
Yeah, you're the Logical One in the discussion.
FYI: I've been with my Scorpio Woman for 4+ years. Doesn't make me an Expert, but I successfully courted & married one...
One of the things that I never try to do within any debate is to attack an argument or position that an opponent has NOT taken. To do so is to effectuate a strawman argument. Identifiably, you have employed such a tactic within your rebuttal.
Notice how you have truncated my words in your rebuttal, subtly attributing them to me within you argument: "I have no care whatsoever for what anyone's says." But is this my 'actual' argument?
Consider: My actual words are "Further, aside from the fact of whether a contributor's argument is logically (or statistically) consistent, I have no care whatsoever for what anyone's says."
"...Aside from the fact of whether a contributor's argument logically (or statistically) consistent." This somewhat changes the logical meaning, even the convincing force, of your rebuttal doesn't it?
"An objective comparison"? Objectivity is not a trait that any human being possess; hence, any 'objective comparison' from a human being is like any pet unicorn from another human being: nonexistent. What I do NOT accept, however, is the (logical) claim the two 'zodiac signs' are incompatible; for this means that (logically) it is not possible for these selfsame zodiac signs to be compatible. Now this claim is logical nonsense - by definition.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: You do know that Astrology, in fact, is very much a metaphysical theory...
No, I do know that is your opinion...
Main Entry: meta??phys??i??cal
Pronunciation: \-??fi-zi-k??l\
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 : of or relating to metaphysics
2 a : of or relating to the transcendent or to a reality beyond what is perceptible to the senses b : supernatural
3 : highly abstract or abstruse; also : theoretical
4 often capitalized : of or relating to poetry especially of the early 17th century that is highly intellectual and philosophical and marked by unconventional imagery
Astrology is actually one of the oldest scientific endeavors, going all the back to ancient Sumeri - if not earlier than that civilization.
Note: 'OPINIONS" are the sorts of things that bear truth values. In other words, opinions can be true or false. Thus, you stating whether something is my opinion means what exactly?
Another word of note: Lexical dictionaries merely report usages of actual words. The definers, rather, of actual words are actual human beings.
Nevertheless, Astrology, even by your own supplied definition, is a metaphysical theory. The "the divination of the supposed influences of the stars and planets on human affairs and terrestrial events by their positions and aspects" is, itself, a theory; and in the measure that such 'divination' transcends our experience, it is also a metaphysical theory, informing our world views.
Thanks for the corroboration by the way. 😉
P.S. Btw, Astronomy IS one of the oldest ancient sciences: not Astrology. Astronomy, however, is one of the oldest pseudo-sciences, largely because it is a factoid.
P.S. 2x You can 'die tryin' to refute an argument that is sound, but it will all be in vain.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: But the tendency to act one way or another is hardly attributable to any one factor, let alone some zodiac sign.
And yet, here you are, creating threads on an Astrology Forum seeking enlightenment on the personality traits of Scorpio Women...
And who's being "false" here??
There you go with a straw man again. First, that which I seek is wisdom or insight - independent of its location. Second, where are you getting mysekf 'being false' from? (Ad hominem) Because I attack your claim as being 'false' (it actually is), you somehow infer that I am 'being false' (attacking 'me' laughably me...lol 🙂), even because I state that "the tendency to act one way or another is hardly attributable to any one factor"? Hunh (Straw man) How do you conflate the two?
Posted by aquilascorpiusfemina
... I have analyzed that some people mistake me to be controlling...
... they confuse it with me being a control freak or possessive...
... They end up thinking I am way too demanding and scary....
See, I told you I was right .. it's so hard always being right.
::: sighs :::
When this lady describes how people see her .. they see her as controlling .. and "they" means plural .. so, it's not just one person.
It may be that the intention is different .. but, it comes out to people on the other side as a desire to control.
And E ... no, I'm not wrong ... it is indeed, EVERY Scorpio woman. The fact that you choose not to accept isn't my problem.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash,
Sorry, you can't have it both ways (I ain't that kinda dude!)...
It is quite logical to infer from your threads that you do indeed attribute some personality traits to the respective Signs. You then state that my doing so is illogical - a metaphysical exercise. That is hypocritcal.
My Premise (since EARLY ON in this thread): Libra & Scorpio is not a good combination, based on the traits ascribed to these signs by astrologers - and based on my own personal experiences with these signs in RL.
Asking DXP Scorpios to offer their RL experiences is valid given the nature of this forum, since I haven't requested NSF funding to perform a double-blind study with a sample size of 1000+. Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. You can choose to accept or reject it, but that choice in no way invalidates it.
Are you actually reading my replies? If so, then you do not understand them. If you have both read (and understood) my threads, you will understand (hopefully) that I hold that the metaphysics of modern-day Astrology is indeed backwards; that is, I have argued elsewhere that statistical human behaviors ought to be the interpreters of zodiac signs and not the converse. So, again, how are you inferring that I "indeed attribute some personality traits to the respective Signs", especially considering the fact that I actually attribute (i.e., name) respective Zodiac signs to some statistical personality traits? (Based on what?) Surely not from any position that I have taken.
Regarding your premise, you've expressed that the two zodiac signs are incompatible. In rebuttal, I've attacked this notion. At any rate, if you claim that Libras and Scorpios are statistically not a good combination, then I'll ask from what sample pool do you extrapolate your stats?
Moreover, I've NEVER said that asking DXP Scorpios to offer their RL experiences is invalid. Rather, all I've asked is why Scorpion women are sometimes so stubborn when confronted with the truth, even pertinaciously, when their respective prides are on the line. Further, indeed, anecdotal evidence is evidence; nevertheless, who has made issue with this claim? Certainly not myself; for I've never claimed that 'anecdotal evidence' is invalid.
But the question that, perhaps, you ought to be asking YOURSELF is why you have been ascribing an argument or position to me, and then attacking it (go
Posted by DyTryin
Astrology, even by your own supplied definition, is a metaphysical theory.
No... Astrology is (by today's standards) a pseudoscience. There are "theories" within Astrology.
Some Astrologers "practice" divination.
Astrology preceded modern astronomy, and most historians regard astrology as one of the oldest sciences.
Not only is the above claim statistically false, it also ahistorical. Astrology is based on Astronomy. The zodiac signs of Astrology stem from the zodiac of Astronomy. AstroNOMICALLY, the 'zodiac' is the ring of constellations that lines the ecliptic. The ecliptic is the apparent path of the sun across the firmament. If one divides the 'ecliptic' into twelve (supposed) equal regions along this same apparent path, one has created the modern-day zodiac sign phenomena. However, astronomically, we know that they are actually 13 zodiacs, the last being Ophiuchus.
Your anecdotal evidence, as you have demonstrated, is not based in actual history. It isn't even remotely factual.
Posted by P-AngelPosted by aquilascorpiusfemina
... I have analyzed that some people mistake me to be controlling...
... they confuse it with me being a control freak or possessive...
... They end up thinking I am way too demanding and scary....
See, I told you I was right .. it's so hard always being right.
::: sighs :::
When this lady describes how people see her .. they see her as controlling .. and "they" means plural .. so, it's not just one person.
It may be that the intention is different .. but, it comes out to people on the other side as a desire to control.
And E ... no, I'm not wrong ... it is indeed, EVERY Scorpio woman. The fact that you choose not to accept isn't my problem.click to expand
p so ur claiming to know every scorp woman ?! u don't
there r no prerequisite to signs just aspects that relate... in the heavens (celestial) no less...but we r not cookie cut outs there r many things that will influence who we r ...
we get a bit of a jump off or basis but we r individuals
u & vixen r not an identical being ;P
sorry to use u as an example sv
* dislaimer : vix was not hurt in this exchange 🙂
Posted by LovelyScorp
I've learned from experience that sometimes you just have to give the Virgo the benefit of the doubt. He is usually absolutely correct in almost everything he is saying.
Just read and absorb, that is the best way.
This 'Virgo' appears to NOT know how to properly use logic when publicly reasoning. If you peruse through his claims and my counter-objections, you will notice that, logically, he has a leg to stand on argumentatively. in fact, I have been even naming some of the fallacies that he has been commtting?
"He is usually absolutley correct in almost everything he is saying"
LovelyScorp, and yes you are indeed lovely 🙂, you do sound like a highly partial drone of his reasoning. But He has made an illicit move, logically, within his train of thought. Surely, you can see this.
Posted by LovelyScorp
I'm referring to Virgo's in general. Not specifically my dear friend, DT.
As I am responding sequentially, I have now just recognized this. Please forgive my tardiness: I've just come back from another late night (early morning) redeployment briefing....
Posted by hardcandyPosted by P-AngelPosted by aquilascorpiusfemina
... I have analyzed that some people mistake me to be controlling...
... they confuse it with me being a control freak or possessive...
... They end up thinking I am way too demanding and scary....
p so ur claiming to know every scorp woman ?! u don't
there r no prerequisite to signs just aspects that relate... in the heavens (celestial) no less...but we r not cookie cut outs there r many things that will influence who we r ...
we get a bit of a jump off or basis but we r individuals
u & vixen r not an identical being ;P
sorry to use u as an example sv
* dislaimer : vix was not hurt in this exchange 🙂
click to expand
You've just beaten me to the punch...dang...lol 🙂
Exactly, she doesn't know every Scorpio woman. Categorical statements like that tend to be falsified, even disproved, with simply one example. Good call...
Posted by DyTryin
ewash,
Let's cut to the chase:
1. If the consensus agrees with your preconcieved notions about Scorpio & Libra, then it is LOGICAL.
2. If the consensus disagrees with your preconcieved notions about Scorpio & Libra, then it is ILLOGICAL.
That about covers the extent of your debate.
Again, I ask - and you FAIL to answer: Why the Fuck did you start this thread? Were you only seeking affirmatives of your all so logical preconceptions?
It sure as shit seems that way.
I'll make a prediction, which you can validate later if you care to: You will not connect with this latest Scorpio Woman.
1. That which is LOGICAL is an argument whose conclusions necessarily follows from its premise-set. I don't care about any consensus; for, unlike you, I have never appealed to any crowd to corroborate my argument here. (Appeal to Crowd; Straw Man)
2. 'ILLOGICAL' is an ambiguous term in philosophical debate because it is an ambivalent term. But again, I don't care about any consensus; for, unlike you, I have never appealed to any crowd to corroborate my argument here. (Appeal to Crowd; Straw Man)
You don't actually read my posts do you? I've actually answered this question several times. I intend to gather multiple opinions, that I may broaden my wisdom in this area.
Nevertheless, you seem to be so audaciously bent on distorting my position that you have even taken upon yourself to offer an unsolicited 'prediction,' which has already been falsified. (Was that supposed to hurt or something? Do you feel humiliated?)
The 'real' question would be why did YOU start in this thread.
Posted by DyTryin
Also, if you haven't noticed: I have some credibility with the Scorpios on DXP because I have actually dated, courted, and married a Scorpio Woman.
When you have accomplished this, then you will have credibility on this topic.
Until then, you are a Novice.
Aside from the fallacies abounding within your argument, I have actually, as I have already stated, "dated and courted" a Scorpio woman. (You ought to know by now that I am rather immune to ad hominem argumentation against me. Nevertheless, while employing this type of reasoning within this discussion, you do look like a toddler attempting to break a windshield with an empty water balloon. It's not even full...lol)
"Novice"? That's like saying that one has to accomplish touching the Sun to have credibility on a discussion about the Sun's hotness. Too strong (unnecessary) a condition isn't?
Posted by caribbeangold
i have been following this thread and the 'VIRGO', as you put, is right. At least, virgos see different sides of the issues. Whereas libras, with their vanity and pretentiousness, tend to see just one vision and are very arrogant about it.
just look at your perception and writing. even another scorpio member implied that the 'VIRGO' had a point, to check it out and you still fail to see it? why? the fact that you are an air sign? detached and elusive. you don't reach me and i am sure you won't reach that scorpio you are trying to court. we, scorpios connect with depth, mysticism, things that you would find as being illogical and too intense for you.
you, on the other hand, are living in the air.
and by the way, i am a scorpio sun with a scorpio stellium.
you may want to dig out past threads on scorpios and libras, there is also a thread on scorpios and libras in the libra forum.
as for those who make it, those scorpios and libras who do make it, then i am 100% that one of the parties have a load of the other person's planets. an example is a dxp member, natural, scorpio sun, who last time i checked, is with a libra but she has a libra stellium. there is a compatibility in regards to the elemental nature.
as it is: "There's a chance that Scorpio will feel like Libra just doesn't get them on a deep level".
and there are plenty of other factors. but go ahead and continue with the airy logical stuff you have been spouting, and you will never reach a scorpio woman.
had it been a water or earth sign man, it would have been a different story.
Not only have you mistakenly charged something against my character, of which you know NOT, you haven't even demonstrated a clear argument. Loyalty is one thing: but Blind Loyalty is another. If I as a man with no vision, lead you as an individual with no vision, then between you and I, how do I show you where I am going? Who will tell whom where the other is going?
How about this, instead displacing some your insecurities on me, perhaps you ought to be considering yourself more so, first, in a mirror.
Now to play this along with this astrological game, probably, if I am a Libra, and if Libras are known for carefully weighing decisions, positions, or arguments, what do you suppose that I have been doing this whole while: not weighing or considering all arguments?
Do you actually belie
Posted by PandorasBox
Lol... *popcorn*
discussin the validity of Astrology is soOoOo last century.
it's always good to get someone else's opinion on matters of the heart to broaden your horizon so why not do it here w/ other woman of your lady's sun sign? But then, why bash on the certainty of the replies you receive? Sure, you might not agree w/ all of um, but to use that to disregard everyone's opinion when it was you seekin insight which so many gladly supplied?
Make up your mind you Libra.
ur funny dont forget the butter now lol
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: I have never appealed to any crowd to corroborate my argument here.
WRONG.
You created these threads, which are in fact invitations to support your POVs.
P😱 Make up your mind you Libra.
That's not possible.
To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another...
No dig at OP, specifically ...but... "AWESOME SHUTDOWN, DyTryin"
...I was wondering when he was going to stop "thinking about doing something"
but now it is all so clear.
OP & All, respectfully, thank-you for letting me see into the Libra mind (like it or not).
Posted by ewashington7000
This 'Virgo' appears to NOT know how to properly use logic when publicly reasoning.
If you peruse through his claims and my counter-objections, you will notice that, logically, he has a leg to stand on argumentatively. in fact, I have been even naming some of the fallacies that he has been committing?
"He is usually absolutely correct in almost everything he is saying"
LovelyScorp, and yes you are indeed lovely 🙂, you do sound like a highly partial drone of his reasoning. But He has made an illicit move, logically, within his train of thought. Surely, you can see this.
The Virgo did use logic...in tryin' to tell ya:
"Matters of the heart are not logical, Spock - there is NO balance to be had."
But even if he didn't use logic (which he did)
The Virgo has probably seen a Scorpio woman cry and knows "why".
That alone would qualify The Virgo as an expert on the subject.
Of course I'm sure you'll point-out another side to that, but...
Posted by PandorasBox
Lol... *popcorn*
discussin the validity of Astrology is soOoOo last century.
it's always good to get someone else's opinion on matters of the heart to broaden your horizon so why not do it here w/ other woman of your lady's sun sign? But then, why bash on the certainty of the replies you receive? Sure, you might not agree w/ all of um, but to use that to disregard everyone's opinion when it was you seekin insight which so many gladly supplied?
Make up your mind you Libra.
Why do u ascribe to me a position that I have never taken? If you have actually read and understood my responses, you will know that I "only" have critiqued 'offered' analysese or replies that seem to be inconsistent to me; and certainly, I have not bashed "on the certainty of the replies" that I have received, although you may interpret my critiques of them in such a way.
Also, I have welcomed everyone's opinion, despite the fact that the header has been 'specifically' addressed to Scorpio women (Go figure); and this ought to serve as a bona fide indicator that I have not been using the the lack of 'certainty' within anyone's reply (that I may not agree with) to 'disregard'"everyone's opinion" when it has been myself who has sought insight.
Ultimately, my mind has long ago been made up. Perhaps you ought to make up your mind, nevertheless, especially as to whether you will 'actually' attend to critiquing my my 'actual' position/argument instead of a position/argument that I have never taken.
Thanks for your feedback.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: I have never appealed to any crowd to corroborate my argument here.
WRONG.
You created these threads, which are in fact invitations to support your POVs.
P😱 Make up your mind you Libra.
That's not possible.
To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another...
Demonstrate to me where I have appealed to any crowd here to corroborate my argument, and I'll show you where I have been 'WRONG.' Otherwise, you just reaching into thin air.
Indeed, I have created this thread; but in doing so, how you do infer (strictly) that I am making "in fact invitations to support your POVs"? Again, I am not following your train of thought.
'To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another...'
Hunh? To maintain balance, there needn't be equal weight on every position, but rather 'correct' or 'fair' weight on each position. That is, some positions require more weight than others yet one can still find balance amongst these selfsame positions. For example, if somebody - out of the blue but within this discussion - replies to me by saying that nomocity or nomological necessity exists, regarding the context of this discussion, do any of you actually suppose that it is (logically) necessary to give equal weight to such a reply/position as every other reply/position "to maintain Balance"? I think not... I know I will not give such weight to it; for it is literally logical nonsenses. (Nomocity doesn't exist)
Posted by scorpiopicsPosted by DyTryin
ewash: I have never appealed to any crowd to corroborate my argument here.
WRONG.
You created these threads, which are in fact invitations to support your POVs.
P😱 Make up your mind you Libra.
That's not possible.
To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another...
No dig at OP, specifically ...but... "AWESOME SHUTDOWN, DyTryin"
...I was wondering when he was going to stop "thinking about doing something"
but now it is all so clear.
OP & All, respectfully, thank-you for letting me see into the Libra mind (like it or not).click to expand
There's an old adage stating that "you can can call a dog a pig all you want; but if you don't get bacon from it, it's not a pig." The only 'AWESOME SHUTDOWN' that I see is the lack of any 'sound' rebuttals to any of my critiques of DyTryin's inconsistent reasoning. But if it'll make you happy, you can call a dog a pig all you want. 🙂
@ Scorpiopics
Indeed, matters of the heart may not be logical but my contention is that he has NOT used logic 'properly': and NOT that he hasn't used logic at all.
Also, his experiences with the few Scorpios that he has allegedly 'seen' does not necessarily account for, or accord with, the millions of Scorpio women that reside, or have ever reside, on this planet. Thus, his experience with Scorpio women is extremely limited globally (statistically).
Therefore, this alone would NOT qualify him as an expert on the subject; but rather a 'novice' on the same (statistically).
'Just saying...
Indeed, matters of the heart may not be logical but my contention is that he has NOT used logic 'properly': and NOT that he hasn't used logic at all.
Also, his experiences with the few Scorpios that he has allegedly 'seen' does not necessarily account for, or accord with, the millions of Scorpio women that reside, or have ever reside, on this planet. Thus, his experience with Scorpio women is extremely limited globally (statistically).
Therefore, this alone would NOT qualify him as an expert on the subject; but rather a 'novice' on the same (statistically).
'Just saying...
Posted by DyTryin
Whatever, Libra Dude.
You would argue with a fence post.
Ignore what some of us have written in your thread. Go after the Scorpio Chick. When it doesn't work out, maybe you will have learned a lesson...
But, I doubt it.
Are you some type of clairvoyant or soothsayer? By the way you sometimes speak, you seem to have the ability to see 'certainly' into my future. If so, whence has this seemingly innate ability of yours come? I prithee do tell....
Trust me, the Scorpio will end up resenting you and might have a slight dislike for other Libras following shortly after you fuck with her head.
DY knows Scorpio women.
DY knows Scorpio women.
Posted by Eris
Trust me, the Scorpio will end up resenting you and might have a slight dislike for other Libras following shortly after you fuck with her head.
DY knows Scorpio women.
How am I messing with her head? She's the one playing the mind-games: not myself. I am just, rather, the one who has called her out on those mind-games that she plays.
Find yourself a Gemini.
Posted by ewashington7000Posted by Eris
Trust me, the Scorpio will end up resenting you and might have a slight dislike for other Libras following shortly after you fuck with her head.
DY knows Scorpio women.
How am I messing with her head? She's the one playing the mind-games: not myself. I am just, rather, the one who has called her out on those mind-games that she plays.click to expand
You're messing with her head by being a typical Libra,
( this is not your fault, because it is your Libra nature )
always opposing the opinion, presenting the other side
to justify your position rather than seeing HERS.
Her opinion is: You are not showing me what I want - a reason to go in your direction.
She will not settle for anything less. Counterbalance that, justify it with your thoughts
- I don't care what you do. But she will not BUDGE from argument, not matter how much
you think you have given her good reason to, logically - unless you show her what she wants.
Until then ...enjoy banging your head against the wall.
And don't worry, it won't go on forever. She'll end it.
prithee... Really?
Who are you, Shakespeare??
No.
He's a black guy trying to show the world his intellect through vocabulary.
Unfortunately, he's a Libra, so he can't see that it just pisses off every
white, black, Asian and Martian who understands his words
and confuses everyone who doesn't. I had to look a few up.
Mind you he's very eloquent and polite when he does it. ( Ahhh ... balance )
I would have him at my table ...as long as he promised to SHUT UP and eat. lol
Posted by ewashington7000
DyTryin'
'To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another...'
ewashington7000
Hunh? To maintain balance, there needn't be equal weight on every position, but rather 'correct' or 'fair' weight on each position. That is, some positions require more weight than others yet one can still find balance amongst these selfsame positions. For example, if somebody - out of the blue but within this discussion - replies to me by saying that nomocity or nomological necessity exists, regarding the context of this discussion, do any of you actually suppose that it is (logically) necessary to give equal weight to such a reply/position as every other reply/position "to maintain Balance"? I think not... I know I will not give such weight to it; for it is literally logical nonsenses. (Nomocity doesn't exist)click to expand
Dear Mr. Washington,
Respectfully, I cannot believe that you just argued against DyTryin's statement
- an established theory of physics - with nothing more than Double-Talk.
The Virgo: To maintain Balance, no position can be given more Weight than another
The Libra: To maintain balance, there needn't be equal weight on every position,
but rather 'correct' or 'fair' weight on each position. That is, some positions
require more weight than others yet one can still find balance amongst these
selfsame positions.
The Scorpio: What you have just said is either:
A/ Opposing positions need equal weight to maintain balance
...but you couldn't pull your head out of your ass and agree with The Virgo
or
B/ You and The Virgo are talking about two difference scenarios:
The Virgo about TWO position factors ( like on a typical two-tray scale
The Libra about MULTIPLE position factors ( like on a radial balance )
Bu the fact of the matter is ... you're not going to get the Scorpio woman. lol
If you could have, she'd be eating out of your hand right now.
We told you pretty much what to do ... and you just kept trying to
rationalize YOUR positions to US as if would make a difference to HER.
It didn't. It won't. YOU CAN'T HAVE HER. All the logic in the world won't do it.
Though she was probably charmed at first with your linguistics,
I'm sure that even they are getting old - since you have not
showed her a good reason to give-in to you. It's just that simple.
See ...she can sense that this
See ...she can sense that this is just a game now ... you are frustrated
and your ONLY intention is to have her give-in. THAT is why you are here.
You want to WIN. You don't even care about this woman. You just want to WIN.
And she knows it.
So good luck.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: Are you some type of clairvoyant or soothsayer? By the way you sometimes speak, you seem to have the ability to see 'certainly' into my future. If so, whence has this seemingly innate ability of yours come? I prithee do tell....
prithee... Really?
Who are you, Shakespeare??
I told you earlier in this thread: Based on multiple sources (including astrologers, my personal experiences, and the posts of other DXP members), the ODDS are against Libra Man + Scorpio Woman...
Your continued semantic gymnastics only reinforce my contention: Few (if any!) Scorpio Women have the patience for such nonsense...
But prithee, prove me wrong: Attempt a serious relationship with this "stubborn" Scorpio Woman.
First, your (original) contention has been that the two zodiac signs Libra and Scorpio are incompatible. But I've already refuted this claim.
Second, as I have already mentioned, your experiences do not take into account the exceeding millions of Scorpio women whom you have never met nor will you ever meet; so, any reckoning of"ODDS" against or for "Libra Man + Scorpio Woman" by you will at best be only parochial.
Third, you've long ago been proven wrong; in that you have claimed logical incompatibility between two groups of people that are logical compatible. Thus, any successful relationship between a Libra man and and a Scorpio woman will suffice as proof positive.
Fourth, methinks Shakespeare is thy displeasure, even enemy.
Fifth, know ye not that this warrior is not in great desperation or peril in relationship to the this selfsame Scorpio woman, but is primarily fascinated intellectually by the challenge of making sense of this whole matter?
scorpiopics, scorpiopics,
Know you not that I am always weighing all sides of a dispute? You seem to think, also, that I am in some constant pursuit of this Scorpio woman. Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
Posted by ewashington7000Posted by DyTryin
ewash: Are you some type of clairvoyant or soothsayer? By the way you sometimes speak, you seem to have the ability to see 'certainly' into my future. If so, whence has this seemingly innate ability of yours come? I prithee do tell....
prithee... Really?
Who are you, Shakespeare??
I told you earlier in this thread: Based on multiple sources (including astrologers, my personal experiences, and the posts of other DXP members), the ODDS are against Libra Man + Scorpio Woman...
Your continued semantic gymnastics only reinforce my contention: Few (if any!) Scorpio Women have the patience for such nonsense...
But prithee, prove me wrong: Attempt a serious relationship with this "stubborn" Scorpio Woman.
First, your (original) contention has been that the two zodiac signs Libra and Scorpio are incompatible. But I've already refuted this claim.
Second, 1as I have already mentioned, your experiences do not take into account the exceeding millions of Scorpio women whom you have never met nor will you ever meet; so, any reckoning of"ODDS" against or for "Libra Man + Scorpio Woman" by you will at best be only parochial.
Third, 2you've long ago been proven wrong; in that you have claimed logical incompatibility between two groups of people that are logical compatible. Thus, any successful relationship between a Libra man and and a Scorpio woman will suffice as proof positive.
Fourth, methinks Shakespeare is thy displeasure, even enemy.
Fifth, 3know ye not that this warrior is not in great desperation or peril in relationship to the this selfsame Scorpio woman, but is primarily fascinated intellectually by the challenge of making sense of this whole matter?click to expand
3 - I'm starting to think you're maybe a 10 year old in a hospital bed BORED and just messing with us. lol
2 - If The Virgo was proved wrong, you'd be having an argument with "her" instead of The Virgo.
1 - The last BicMac I ate didn't take into account the exceeding millions of Big Macs which I have never eaten
nor will I ever meet... but they are all DESIGNED the same. Yes, there are SLIGHT variations -- but I know
when I order a Big Mac in San Fransisco, i
... it will be "pretty much the same inside the package" as the one
I ate in England....or Toronto ... or Florida ... or New York. Generally speaking, Scorpio women think
the same WAY... just as Libra men tend to think the same way... and so, this argument now is merely
entertainment for The Virgo and I, but a COMPULSION for "you". You can't stop arguing/opposing/justifying.
Again ... if The Virgo was wrong ... you'd be in bed with her instead of posting here.
( Can't wait to see the other side to "that" one. )
( OMG ...can we get a warning BEFORE we go over character count? Or maybe an EDIT POST function - jeeze )
Posted by DyTryin
ewash: Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
If ^^ THAT ^^ statement is true, then rest assured that the Scorpio knows, so you'd better start exercising your options...
Oh snap! haha!
That statement of Washs right there ends this whole pathetic thread, (for me). Even if he is lying it shows what kind of person he is.
Posted by DyTryin
ewash,
Let's play poker! You are an Easy Mark for me...
you have claimed logical incompatibility between two groups of people that are logical compatible
NO... In the context of an Astrology Forum, I have given you THE ODDS of success for Libra & Scorpio. How you play the odds is entirely up to you - and her, of course.
I find it telling that you would spend more time / words engaging Me with your Pretzel Logic than discussing your relationship with Her... THAT may be your real problem.
The Scorpio Women have tried to tell you that logic & reason won't help you with your OP, and yet you persist... Are you sure you're not a Taurus?
I'm a retired USAF Officer, and decorated Desert Storm veteran. Even that did not prepare me for Scorpio Courtship; but, good luck anyway, soldier...
How, within the context of Astrology, even without a sample pool consisting of ALL couplings of Libra men and Scorpio women, is it possible for you to give me the statistical 'ODDS' of the success for 'Libra & Scorpio'? Are you even aware of that which you are claiming? Do you even know ALL such couplings? Such an a priori claim is impossible, especially without appeal to all 'statistical' experience.
I find it telling that on a thread that has been intended to foster discussing about 'some' of the behaviors of 'some' Scorpio women, you are requesting information that I have never intended. (You seem to be also confused, thinking that I am on here merely to 'spend more time/words engaging' you. I am not sure about the USAF men, but I am an infantryman (i.e., a foot soldier who hasn't much time to spend) who has recently just left combat theater.
At any rate, if you do play poker, you may want to NOT consider 'counting cards,' as you seem to often fail at appreciating the totality of statistical 'ODDS.'
Thanks for your feedback.
@ scorpiopics
Some of your comments astound me so much that I am not even sure how to properly response.
"Established theory of physics"? Please don't go there. Aside from the nonsense that you have just claimed, that is not the one you want.
Do you even know what has transpired between she and I? Please tell me, since you appear to possess powers of sight outside of the norm; and then we'll see how accurate your predictions are.
Some of your comments astound me so much that I am not even sure how to properly response.
"Established theory of physics"? Please don't go there. Aside from the nonsense that you have just claimed, that is not the one you want.
Do you even know what has transpired between she and I? Please tell me, since you appear to possess powers of sight outside of the norm; and then we'll see how accurate your predictions are.
Posted by ErisPosted by DyTryin
ewash: Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
If ^^ THAT ^^ statement is true, then rest assured that the Scorpio knows, so you'd better start exercising your options...
Oh snap! haha!
That statement of Washs right there ends this whole pathetic thread, (for me). Even if he is lying it shows what kind of person he is.click to expand
Really? I'm confused. So if I state that it is possible to be with another woman (i.e., I have other options), I am somehow revealing what exactly? Please tell me.
It is NOT possible for any human being, married or not, to 'have options'? Surely it is. Thus, what is so peculiar about me 'having options'?
Perhaps you will do well to reserve prejudicial judgment for those things that require it, instead of using it for a man who doesn't require it, lest you conflate your prejudices for 'what kind of person he is.'
Posted by scorpiopics
... it will be "pretty much the same inside the package" as the one
I ate in England....or Toronto ... or Florida ... or New York. Generally speaking, Scorpio women think
the same WAY... just as Libra men tend to think the same way... and so, this argument now is merely
entertainment for The Virgo and I, but a COMPULSION for "you". You can't stop arguing/opposing/justifying.
Again ... if The Virgo was wrong ... you'd be in bed with her instead of posting here.
( Can't wait to see the other side to "that" one. )
( OMG ...can we get a warning BEFORE we go over character count? Or maybe an EDIT POST function - jeeze )
'Generally speaking'?
What generality are you referring to? You are aware of the the relative birth frequencies of males and females right? How many Scorpio women, let alone Libra men, do you know, even that you may justifiably use (mathematical) induction to infer such a generality?
Before the military, note that I use to be a full time mathematics tutor for both post and undergrad students. As such, based on my training, within my tutorial sessions, I use to utilize several fields of 'logic' to explain or elucidate many difficult mathematical (or philosophical) concepts to my students. This has become 'second nature' to me.
Now, if I have grown accustomed to utilizing 'logic' to explicate difficult concepts, what do you suppose that I will try to utilize if I desire to expose difficult concepts within Astrology, even on these forums?
Consider, also, amongst many other things, first, that I am thousands of miles away from this particular Scorpio woman before posting such nonsense as:
"Again ... if The Virgo was wrong ... you'd be in bed with her instead of posting here.
( Can't wait to see the other side to "that" one. )"
'Just saying....
@ scorpioics
3 - This claim is possible but NOT 'actual.' But I do reason for entertainment purposes though...lol
2 - This does not logically follow. That is, it is not necessarily the case that "If The Virgo was proved wrong," I'd "be having an argument with "her" instead of The Virgo." You ought to know better about making such claims to me on here by now.
1 - Aside from the fact that the logical form or structure of your argument is not the same as mine, you do realize that Big Macs, based on what I know, although relatively designed 'the same,' are NOT living, sentient beings right?
'Just making sure AND saying.... whoa...
3 - This claim is possible but NOT 'actual.' But I do reason for entertainment purposes though...lol
2 - This does not logically follow. That is, it is not necessarily the case that "If The Virgo was proved wrong," I'd "be having an argument with "her" instead of The Virgo." You ought to know better about making such claims to me on here by now.
1 - Aside from the fact that the logical form or structure of your argument is not the same as mine, you do realize that Big Macs, based on what I know, although relatively designed 'the same,' are NOT living, sentient beings right?
'Just making sure AND saying.... whoa...
3 - This claim is possible but NOT 'actual.' But I do reason for entertainment purposes though...lol
that's fair ... and yes, this is purely entertainment now.
2 - This does not logically follow. That is, it is not necessarily the case that "If The Virgo was proved wrong," I'd "be having an argument with "her" instead of The Virgo." You ought to know better about making such claims to me on here by now.
No. You came here because the Scorpio would not see things your way. You wanted us to help you WIN. But since you did not accept "as truth" the truth that we showed you ... you are still losing and the time you spend with us would otherwise be spent with HER ( or email her, etc.).
1 - Aside from the fact that the logical form or structure of your argument is not the same as mine, you do realize that Big Macs, based on what I know, although relatively designed 'the same,' are NOT living, sentient beings right?
The first problem with your Scorpio is that you view everything as an argument. You asked our opinions. We gave them. You have told us they are wrong and tried to prove to us "why" we are wrong.
All Big Macs WERE living sentient beings. All were cows, of the SAME BREEDING STOCK bred by the 100% Pure Beef Company (owned by McDonald's) TO be burgers. They are fed THE SAME diet to maintain consistency. The products in the bun and the oat bran in the burger ALSO are grown by McDonalds in ground prepared to be consistent no matter where in the world they grow. Heinz Ketchup is the only outsourced product, but it also is consistent.
So, again ... the majority of Scorpio women THINK THE SAME WAY, in the same method. The Virgo's Scorpio is not likely much different than yours, no matter black, white, yellow, green or blue ... argue that all ya want to....but... if your opinion on what's WRONG with your Scorpio woman isn't getting you anywhere ... what does that TELL you? While it may not state that we are RIGHT ... it "should" point out that YOU are WRONG.
Posted by ewashington7000
'Generally speaking'? What generality are you referring to?
Again ... generally speaking, ALL SCORPIO WOMEN THINK THE SAME WAY - "thought process"
You are aware of the the relative birth frequencies of males and females right?
this has NOTHING to do with this argument.
How many Scorpio women, let alone Libra men, do you know, even that you may justifiably use (mathematical) induction to infer such a generality?
Scorpio Women: about 20 long-time and in person. about 10 online. enough to bet my life on it
Libra men: 3 - more than enough lol
Before the military, note that I use to be a full time mathematics tutor for both post and undergrad students. As such, based on my training, within my tutorial sessions, I use to utilize several fields of 'logic' to explain or elucidate many difficult mathematical (or philosophical) concepts to my students. This has become 'second nature' to me.
Real proud of you. DID THIS HELP YOU WIN WITH THE SCORPIO? Nope! cuz it aint about anything but
you now showing her what she wants. You can't argue logically that you have something better or "just as good".
Now, if I have grown accustomed to utilizing 'logic' to explicate difficult concepts, what do you suppose that I will try to utilize if I desire to expose difficult concepts within Astrology, even on these forums?
Dude ... until about 5 years ago, my scientific ming believe Astrology was A LOAD OF CRAP
because I had not seen PROOF. But I read a book that described my inner thoughts to a "T"
and also explained why I could not get along with certain other people ... I saw PROOF ... there were TRENDS.
Consider, also, amongst many other things, first, that I am thousands of miles away from this particular Scorpio woman before posting such nonsense as:
"Again ... if The Virgo was wrong ... you'd be in bed with her instead of posting here.
( Can't wait to see the other side to "that" one. )"
Great - so why are you writing to US instead of emailing HER ? - and ... why didn't she come with you to USA? ...where she'd be IN BED WITH YOU.
Posted by ewashington7000Posted by ErisPosted by DyTryin
ewash: Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
If ^^ THAT ^^ statement is true, then rest assured that the Scorpio knows, so you'd better start exercising your options...
Oh snap! haha!
That statement of Washs right there ends this whole pathetic thread, (for me). Even if he is lying it shows what kind of person he is.
Really? I'm confused. So if I state that it is possible to be with another woman (i.e., I have other options), I am somehow revealing what exactly? Please tell me.
It is NOT possible for any human being, married or not, to 'have options'? Surely it is. Thus, what is so peculiar about me 'having options'?
Perhaps you will do well to reserve prejudicial judgment for those things that require it, instead of using it for a man who doesn't require it, lest you conflate your prejudices for 'what kind of person he is.'click to expand
A Scorpio seeks DEVOTION..."through thick & thin" COMMITMENT
If you show her all your other prospects/options as leverage
...or if she even DETECTS that you are thinking about other options
- she'll just see you as someone to NEVER get attached to. It's over. Done.
That's what Eris, another Scorpio woman, was saying..."basically".
But "I" am saying that you are PISSED OFF because you could not WIN her over with your "logic".
You don't care about this woman ... you just wanted to WIN. Since you can't, it vexes you.
We've been trying to tell you all along that YOUR logical arguments WONT CHANGE HER POSITION.
- She wants "something"...she's holding out for it.
- You telling her why she wants "something else" won't work on "her". But ... that won't stop you.
Posted by ewashington7000
scorpiopics, scorpiopics,
1 Know you not that I am always weighing all sides of a dispute?
2 You seem to think, also, that I am in some constant pursuit of this Scorpio woman. Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
I am here for thou
1 Yes, I pretty sure you are ... but only after you present the other side, yourself.
It is YOU who makes it a DISPUTE ...an ARGUMENT.
2 I'd say you are in constant imbalance over her...because you could not win.
Maybe you should do yourself a favor and TAKE one of those other options ...if they exist.
If they do ... you won't need to post again ( about that particular Scorpio )
Posted by BeetleguesePosted by scorpiopicsPosted by ewashington7000Posted by ErisPosted by DyTryin
ewash: Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
If ^^ THAT ^^ statement is true, then rest assured that the Scorpio knows, so you'd better start exercising your options...
Oh snap! haha!
That statement of Washs right there ends this whole pathetic thread, (for me). Even if he is lying it shows what kind of person he is.
Really? I'm confused. So if I state that it is possible to be with another woman (i.e., I have other options), I am somehow revealing what exactly? Please tell me.
It is NOT possible for any human being, married or not, to 'have options'? Surely it is. Thus, what is so peculiar about me 'having options'?
Perhaps you will do well to reserve prejudicial judgment for those things that require it, instead of using it for a man who doesn't require it, lest you conflate your prejudices for 'what kind of person he is.'
A Scorpio seeks DEVOTION..."through thick & thin" COMMITMENT
If you show her all your other prospects/options as leverage
...or if she even DETECTS that you are thinking about other options
- she'll just see you as someone to NEVER get attached to. It's over. Done.
That's what Eris, another Scorpio woman, was saying..."basically".
But "I" am saying that you are PISSED OFF because you could not WIN her over with your "logic".
You don't care about this woman ... you just wanted to WIN. Since you can't, it vexes you.
We've been trying to tell you all along that YOUR logical arguments WONT CHANGE HER POSITION.
- She wants "something"...she's holding out for it.
- You telling her why she wants "something else" won't work on "her". But ... that won't stop you.
^^^Agreed; complete devotion, not even .000000000000001% less than that will do.
click to expand
Whoa ... Ok, this has explained alot, especially if the men are this way too, I'm not an all or nothing kind of person. I need more room for error.
This thread is like Michael Myers. It just won't fucking die!
Where the hell is Jamie Lee Curtis when you need her?! 😛
Where the hell is Jamie Lee Curtis when you need her?! 😛
Posted by Sea Siren
This thread is like Michael Myers. It just won't fucking die!
Where the hell is Jamie Lee Curtis when you need her?! 😛
OMG, now I'm thinking about Halloween. It scared me to death when I first saw it and I was born way after it came out I think.
Posted by scorpiopicsPosted by ewashington7000
'Generally speaking'? What generality are you referring to?
Again ... generally speaking, ALL SCORPIO WOMEN THINK THE SAME WAY - "thought process"
You are aware of the the relative birth frequencies of males and females right?
this has NOTHING to do with this argument.
How many Scorpio women, let alone Libra men, do you know, even that you may justifiably use (mathematical) induction to infer such a generality?
Scorpio Women: about 20 long-time and in person. about 10 online. enough to bet my life on it
Libra men: 3 - more than enough lol Great - so why are you writing to US instead of emailing HER ? - and ... why didn't she come with you to USA? ...where she'd be IN BED WITH YOU.
click to expand
Now the above quote exemplifies your flagrant ignorance in this manner. Aside from being nescient as to my intent of this post, she didn't come with me' to the USA because she NEVER redeployed with me from a COMBAT ZONE, even Nasir Wa Salam, IRAQ. (I just came from warfare.) What are you talking about?
Also, '20,' '10,' and '3' do not constitute in any fashion a (true) generality, especially for millions of Libra men or Scorpio women. You are using inductive reasoning fallaciously, unawares of the significance of your statement. This is like saying that because I have met '30' Scorpio women in my lifetime, I can say that I can generally speak for all (e.g., MILLIONS) Scorpio women. Now, not only is such a claim delusionally near sighted or myopic, it is also rather presumptuous or haughty in essence.
Sadly, you are still confused about my intent. That is, my intent is not to 'WIN' but rather to 'UNDERSTAND' - hence, my original header. Where have you been.
Posted by scorpiopicsPosted by ewashington7000Posted by ErisPosted by DyTryin
ewash: Do you really suppose that I haven't other options (i.e., beautiful women), if I so opt for them?
A Scorpio seeks DEVOTION..."through thick & thin" COMMITMENT
If you show her all your other prospects/options as leverage
...or if she even DETECTS that you are thinking about other options
- she'll just see you as someone to NEVER get attached to. It's over. Done.
That's what Eris, another Scorpio woman, was saying..."basically".
But "I" am saying that you are PISSED OFF because you could not WIN her over with your "logic".
You don't care about this woman ... you just wanted to WIN. Since you can't, it vexes you.
We've been trying to tell you all along that YOUR logical arguments WONT CHANGE HER POSITION.
- She wants "something"...she's holding out for it.
- You telling her why she wants "something else" won't work on "her". But ... that won't stop you.
click to expand
Have you actually researched both us extensively to justifiably make such bold claims?
"PISSED OFF"? Seriously? What if I tell you that in November, I have a scheduled 'date' with a certain Scorpio woman of great interest to me? It'll somewhat refute the nonsense that you've been uttering: Will it not?
"You don't care about this woman..."
Seriously? And how well do you, or long have you, known me to make such a claim? 'Seems to me that 'YOU don't care about this woman,' but actually desire to 'WIN' an argument, of which you clearly haven't. Reaction-formation is a desperate move in argumentation. Leave it alone: for it's begun to tell on you.
I suspect that jealousy is floating around, permeating through some the responses of this thread.
'Just saying....
Posted by Sea Siren
This thread is like Michael Myers. It just won't fucking die!
Where the hell is Jamie Lee Curtis when you need her?! 😛
Michael Myers has killed her....
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