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First it was "facts over feelings" now it's "vibes over everything"
we're fucked
we're fucked
Posted by SoloPosted by Astrobyn
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
What did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.click to expand
I have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.
idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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I have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.
idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.click to expand
You're such a VICTIM. It doesn't line up! That's what I'm fucking telling you and showing you with actual sources! I'm not PROJECTING shit onto you, you literally just posted a Putin video saying well this is what Putin says!
I understand you very well and how you process information. You DON'T process information. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. YOU JUST WANT VALIDATION. Or else you wouldn't be saying all of the stupid and easily disprovable shit that you do!
"When I don't agree with you" no, it's when you fucking blatantly push lies! Jesus fucking christ.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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I have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.
idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.click to expand
You're such a VICTIM. It doesn't line up! That's what I'm fucking telling you and showing you with actual sources! I'm not PROJECTING shit onto you, you literally just posted a Putin video saying well this is what Putin says!
I understand you very well and how you process information. You DON'T process information. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. YOU JUST WANT VALIDATION. Or else you wouldn't be saying all of the stupid and easily disprovable shit that you do!
"When I don't agree with you" no, it's when you fucking blatantly push lies! Jesus fucking christ.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
And look at how much of a fucking pussy you are. You always just come out of the woodworks to say some stupid shit but you can never actually argue any points. You're a fucking retard just like she is and a few others here.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
And look at how much of a fucking pussy you are. You always just come out of the woodworks to say some stupid shit but you can never actually argue any points. You're a fucking retard just like she is and a few others here.
Posted by SoloPosted by CancerOnTheCusp
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
And look at how much of a fucking pussy you are. You always just come out of the woodworks to say some stupid shit but you can never actually argue any points. You're a fucking retard just like she is and a few others here.click to expand
Yup. You got me. A real pussy and a retard.
Assuming you aren't one of those jackasses that likes to put on using sock puppets (and this website has had them in spades):
I know a couple of people diagnosed with bipolar disorder who exhibit behavior similar to yours and try to self medicate--interestingly enough, by heavy pot use.
It doesn't work.
If you fit that category, get some help. Seriously.
BTW--you are trying too hard. You aren't impressing anyone, but are looking like a complete douchebag.
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by SoloPosted by CancerOnTheCuspAnd look at how much of a fucking pussy you are. You always just come out of the woodworks to say some stupid shit but you can never actually argue any points. You're a fucking retard just like she is and a few others here.
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
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Yup. You got me. A real pussy and a retard.
Assuming you aren't one of those jackasses that likes to put on using sock puppets (and this website has had them in spades):
I know a couple of people diagnosed with bipolar disorder who exhibit behavior similar to yours and try to self medicate--interestingly enough, by heavy pot use.
It doesn't work.
If you fit that category, get some help. Seriously.
BTW--you are trying too hard. You aren't impressing anyone, but are looking like a complete douchebag.click to expand
You think I'm trying to "impress people" when I just want lies to stop being spread. It's not difficult. You always come in with a personal shot at me. Go fuck yourself because you never have the balls to just outright say it. It's always a sly comment and then when I call you out you end up addressing me directly. Just stop pussyfooting and say what you mean. If bothering to be curious and knowledgeable makes me look like a complete douchebag.. I'm completelyyyyyyyy fine with not being lumped in with anti-intellectual people. All the better, actually.
Posted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.Posted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.
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You're such a VICTIM. It doesn't line up! That's what I'm fucking telling you and showing you with actual sources! I'm not PROJECTING shit onto you, you literally just posted a Putin video saying well this is what Putin says!
I understand you very well and how you process information. You DON'T process information. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. YOU JUST WANT VALIDATION. Or else you wouldn't be saying all of the stupid and easily disprovable shit that you do!
"When I don't agree with you" no, it's when you fucking blatantly push lies! Jesus fucking christ.click to expand
Posted by SoloPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by SoloFark you've gone off the deep end I remember when you used to post some clever rap lyrics and the like. Interesting shit. Get back to that stuff man it was good for you.
So like.. deadass.. what do you get from this? I know you're just a "burn it down" girl.. but what's the point of all this like.. fake care then? You want it all gone anyway. You don't trust governments. Why fake care about things? You don't have to care. What's the benefit behind propping up lies? Especially when they're something so easily checkable like Ukraine not having the tech or capability to use the equipment we gave them. Like, you can literally see what we gave them and then you can read all about them..
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Lmfaoooooo. Yeah, I said so much that was "off the deep end." Refuting lies is off the deep end. You got me.click to expand
Yes
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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đ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.click to expand
You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.click to expand
Don't have to. I don't feel the need to. I don't owe nobody a thing. I like to keep private about everything in life. I'm low key and like to remain low key.
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.click to expand
Can we see a pic of you?
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Can we see a pic of you?click to expand
I know you talking to yo boy and not me but I just wanna say that I'm not interesting in seeing anybodys picture. I'm more the type to rather see everybody's eyes to be completely honest. People's eyes don't lie and are a tell tale sign of innocence, intense, charming, kind and the likes. I don't know if he'll post his picture and if he does kudos to him.
Posted by SoloPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsI appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.Posted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
Sun in 27° 33' Scorpio
Moon in 0° 58' Taurus
Mercury in 21° 32' Scorpio
Venus in 28° 33' Scorpio
Mars in 12° 35' Scorpio
Jupiter in 25° 8' Cancer (r)
Saturn in 9° 57' Gemini (r)
Uranus in 2° 46' Gemini (r)
Neptune in 1° 30' Libra
Pluto in 7° 13' Leo (r)
North Node in 29° 42' Leo (r)
Chiron in 28° 52' Leo
Ascendant in 3° 11' Sagittarius
MC in 19° 54' Virgo
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Jupiter Trine Ascendant orb: 8 °
Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
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The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
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Claim: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War
Fact: Such an agreement was never made. NATOâs door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 â and that has never changed. This âOpen Door Policyâ is enshrined in Article 10 of NATOâs founding treaty, which says âany other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlanticâ can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. No treaty signed by the United States, Europe and Russia included provisions on NATO membership.
The idea of NATO expansion beyond a united Germany was not on the agenda in 1989, particularly as the Warsaw Pact still existed. This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev in an interview in 2014: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."
Declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin's offer of a 'gentlemen's agreement' that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO: "I can't make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I'm not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do soâŠNATO operates by consensus."
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This is my last time addressing your lack of basic comprehension skills ass! Let me break it down for you so perhaps then you'll get it through your thick skull. Jeffrey never claimed nor aserted Bill Clinton signed anything. He simply stated there was an agreement which apparently a whole fuckin world is well aware of except you.
Baring that in mind, before you say anything about how the agreement is invalid becuase there was no signatories, does that then give Russia or China or Iran etc carte blanche to establish their bases in the vicinity of US borders? Oh, right, we have precedence for that. NO da fuck they would not which is why we had Cuba misle crisis. Which, in about of irony, is what i pointed out to you just the other day. So apperently there was no signatories to that agreement either, but Russia honored it!
Furthermore, should you bring Crimea into the equation (like you did during our last interaction during which, may I remind you, you hurled personal insults at me sense any provocation)... they had a referendum back in 2014 in which the residents overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia. To which the US took an affront, but when Kososvo voted to split away from Serbia -which has been a part of for centuries (minus the brief stint during wwii when Italy invaded the region & annexed it to Albania)- NATO swooped in a bombed the shit out of Belgrade!
Serbia is a whole other discussion, however, what the example does, is perfectlyy highlight the hypocrisy of the US policy makers.
Additionally, it is exceptionally hypocritical of you to sit here & argue shit about Russia-Ukraine but when called out on Palestine- Israel bullshit, what's your response?! Exactly! You don't have time & energy to deal with that! Same excuse when I provided link after link, article after article pointing out lies and inconsistencies pertaining Russia-Ukraine, you came back with the same excuse as to how overwhelming it was & you weren't going to read it.
Bottom line, it's really reassuring to know how much more informed you are than Jeffrey Sachs or Saymour Hersh, or Aaron Mate or Chris Hedges (and the list goes on) most of whom are award winning, indipendant, journalists! Sure, I'll trust your judgment & the propaganda used to manufacture consent!
@Solo
This is my last time addressing your lack of basic comprehension skills ass! Let me break it down for you so perhaps then you'll get it through your thick skull. Jeffrey never claimed nor aserted Bill Clinton signed anything. He simply stated there was an agreement which apparently a whole fuckin world is well aware of except you.
Baring that in mind, before you say anything about how the agreement is invalid becuase there was no signatories, does that then give Russia or China or Iran etc carte blanche to establish their bases in the vicinity of US borders? Oh, right, we have precedence for that. NO da fuck they would not which is why we had Cuba misle crisis. Which, in about of irony, is what i pointed out to you just the other day. So apperently there was no signatories to that agreement either, but Russia honored it!
Furthermore, should you bring Crimea into the equation (like you did during our last interaction during which, may I remind you, you hurled personal insults at me sense any provocation)... they had a referendum back in 2014 in which the residents overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia. To which the US took an affront, but when Kososvo voted to split away from Serbia -which has been a part of for centuries (minus the brief stint during wwii when Italy invaded the region & annexed it to Albania)- NATO swooped in a bombed the shit out of Belgrade!
Serbia is a whole other discussion, however, what the example does, is perfectlyy highlight the hypocrisy of the US policy makers.
Additionally, it is exceptionally hypocritical of you to sit here & argue shit about Russia-Ukraine but when called out on Palestine- Israel bullshit, what's your response?! Exactly! You don't have time & energy to deal with that! Same excuse when I provided link after link, article after article pointing out lies and inconsistencies pertaining Russia-Ukraine, you came back with the same excuse as to how overwhelming it was & you weren't going to read it.
Bottom line, it's really reassuring to know how much more informed you are than Jeffrey Sachs or Saymour Hersh, or Aaron Mate or Chris Hedges (and the list goes on) most of whom are award winning, indipendant, journalists! Sure, I'll trust your judgment & the propaganda used to manufacture consent!
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by SoloPosted by CancerOnTheCuspAnd look at how much of a fucking pussy you are. You always just come out of the woodworks to say some stupid shit but you can never actually argue any points. You're a fucking retard just like she is and a few others here.
If there ever is a DXP Awards in the near future, there may be a candidate for the "Most Likely to Commit Suicide-By-Cop" category. Holy shit.
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Yup. You got me. A real pussy and a retard.
Assuming you aren't one of those jackasses that likes to put on using sock puppets (and this website has had them in spades):
I know a couple of people diagnosed with bipolar disorder who exhibit behavior similar to yours and try to self medicate--interestingly enough, by heavy pot use.
It doesn't work.
If you fit that category, get some help. Seriously.
BTW--you are trying too hard. You aren't impressing anyone, but are looking like a complete douchebag.click to expand
Donât engage with that Solo idiot. They are a whack job.
Posted by StardustmoppedPosted by Solo
So like.. deadass.. what do you get from this? I know you're just a "burn it down" girl.. but what's the point of all this like.. fake care then? You want it all gone anyway. You don't trust governments. Why fake care about things? You don't have to care. What's the benefit behind propping up lies? Especially when they're something so easily checkable like Ukraine not having the tech or capability to use the equipment we gave them. Like, you can literally see what we gave them and then you can read all about them..
Itâs just a good old circle jerk.
Itâs only okay from Trump to aid Ukraine when he needs them to interfere in our elections for his own benefit.click to expand
Why is it so hard for some to see beyond two party lines? Is it so impossible for ppl to be for neither or even belong to democratic party but see the hypocrisy & lies and call them out? Is person patriotic as long as it only practices blind loyalty? How do you propose we as nation improve if lack basic self-awareness?
Also, speaking of... funny how main stream media avoids speaking about Gonzalo Lira (Amrican journalists) who died in Ukranian prison.
Posted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
Sun in 27° 33' Scorpio
Moon in 0° 58' Taurus
Mercury in 21° 32' Scorpio
Venus in 28° 33' Scorpio
Mars in 12° 35' Scorpio
Jupiter in 25° 8' Cancer (r)
Saturn in 9° 57' Gemini (r)
Uranus in 2° 46' Gemini (r)
Neptune in 1° 30' Libra
Pluto in 7° 13' Leo (r)
North Node in 29° 42' Leo (r)
Chiron in 28° 52' Leo
Ascendant in 3° 11' Sagittarius
MC in 19° 54' Virgo
Venus Square Chiron orb: 0 °
Venus Square North Node orb: 1 °
Sun Square Chiron orb: 1 °
Uranus Opposition Ascendant orb: 1 °
North Node Conjunction Chiron orb: 1 °
Sun Conjunction Venus orb: 1 °
Uranus Trine Neptune orb: 1 °
Moon Trine North Node orb: 1 °
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Saturn Sextile Pluto orb: 2 °
Mercury Sextile MC orb: 2 °
Sun Square North Node orb: 2 °
Moon Trine Chiron orb: 2 °
Sun Trine Jupiter orb: 2 °
Venus Sextile Neptune orb: 3 °
Uranus Square North Node orb: 3 °
Venus Trine Jupiter orb: 3 °
Sun Sextile Neptune orb: 4 °
North Node Square Ascendant orb: 4 °
Uranus Square Chiron orb: 4 °
Venus Opposition Uranus orb: 4 °
Pluto Trine Ascendant orb: 4 °
Mercury Trine Jupiter orb: 4 °
Uranus Sextile Pluto orb: 5 °
Chiron Square Ascendant orb: 5 °
Mars Square Pluto orb: 5 °
Moon Square Jupiter orb: 5 °
Sun Opposition Uranus orb: 5 °
Venus Conjunction Ascendant orb: 5 °
Jupiter Sextile MC orb: 6 °
Jupiter Sextile Neptune orb: 6 °
Saturn Opposition Ascendant orb: 6 °
Sun Conjunction Ascendant orb: 6 °
Sun Conjunction Mercury orb: 6 °
Mercury Square Chiron orb: 7 °
Moon Square Pluto orb: 7 °
Mercury Conjunction Venus orb: 7 °
Jupiter Trine Ascendant orb: 8 °
Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
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I appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.click to expand
Yes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
Posted by Solo
@Astrobyn are you capable of admitting you were wrong that the US didn't launch the ATACMS and that it was Ukraine?
Hmm. Ive read your thread. You have a point. It's not mutually exclusive to Astrobyns. Let me take a crack out what she is implying and Russia is trying to say as well.
Missle systems have incredibly secure computer systems. It's not like a password to a home computer to operate. Requires technical know how and security keys on many levels to operate.They are intentionally complex.
Meaning digitally, those specific missle systems would require trained personal or be programed remotely. Which is enough of a involvment that Russia wants to point out as NATO&U.S being involved enough to be a joint operation rather then just Ukraine. So basically rather helping Ukraine defend themselves, it boarders on a proxy war. This is what Putin is trying say too eloquently to be understandable by most people. It's a kind of eleborate double speak that most willn't get without context. Context, that none of which is being told to the public.
He is also saying any military assets used in this way(too much input by another country to the point of a joint operation) is far game. And he will use hypersonic missile which can not be intercepted in response.
It's like they are playing political and military chess. If you play your rock, Ill play my rock. If you play your queen Ill play my queen.
Does that make more sense then the way she said it?
Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsI appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.Posted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
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The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
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Yes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.click to expand
Good question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!
Posted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusYes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?Posted by LostthoughtsI appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.Posted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
click to expand
click to expand
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
click to expand
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
click to expand
Good question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!click to expand
Agreed. I'd like to point out the Agancies were doing there job what they were meant to how they where meant to during his administration.
He picked or whom ever picked for him picked very very well. It was back to the basics in a good way, these laws and regulations protected us from ourselves. Kept a lot of the big players in check. Which I'm sure made the lobbiest job much more difficult.
While trumps current picks are looking like a fox in then hen house. He doesn't have the sharpness to keeep his own people in check. This will be heavily relient on his senoir advisors and staff.
Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by Solo
@Astrobyn are you capable of admitting you were wrong that the US didn't launch the ATACMS and that it was Ukraine?
Hmm. Ive read your thread. You have a point. It's not mutually exclusive to Astrobyns. Let me take a crack out what she is implying and Russia is trying to say as well.
Missle systems have incredibly secure computer systems. It's not like a password to a home computer to operate. Requires technical know how and security keys on many levels to operate.They are intentionally complex.
Meaning digitally, those specific missle systems would require trained personal or be programed remotely. Which is enough of a involvment that Russia wants to point out as NATO&U.S being involved enough to be a joint operation rather then just Ukraine. So basically rather helping Ukraine defend themselves, it boarders on a proxy war. This is what Putin is trying say too eloquently to be understandable by most people. It's a kind of eleborate double speak that most willn't get without context. Context, that none of which is being told to the public.
He is also saying any military assets used in this way(too much input by another country to the point of a joint operation) is far game. And he will use hypersonic missile which can not be intercepted in response.
It's like they are playing political and military chess. If you play your rock, Ill play my rock. If you play your queen Ill play my queen.
Does that make more sense then the way she said it?click to expand
Bingo.
But that little demonstration, which originally was surmised to be an RS 26 is something new (called 'Oreshnik'). And it completely flattened that facility. Now I'm still unclear if those strikes were low yield conventional munitions, or strictly kinetic, but the accuracy is what one needs to pay attention to, along with the velocity.
Supposedly Western governments were notified of the launch, but its not clear if typical alert systems picked it up before the strike (if they did, people are mum about it).
Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsGood question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.Posted by ArgusYes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?Posted by LostthoughtsI appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.Posted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
click to expand
click to expand
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
click to expand
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
click to expand
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!
click to expand
Agreed. I'd like to point out the Agancies were doing there job what they were meant to how they where meant to during his administration.
He picked or whom ever picked for him picked very very well. It was back to the basics in a good way, these laws and regulations protected us from ourselves. Kept a lot of the big players in check. Which I'm sure made the lobbiest job much more difficult.
While trumps current picks are looking like a fox in then hen house. He doesn't have the sharpness to keeep his own people in check. This will be heavily relient on his senoir advisors and staff.click to expand
You'll have to forgive me for maintaining a healthy doze of skepticism with respect to the first two paragraphs since there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary but that is a whooooole other thread.
What I do know with certainty is they (politicians) & oligarchs alike belong to one big club and most of us aren't part of it! đ€·đ»ââïž
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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I have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.
idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.click to expand
Bro literally will take any source that aligns with his warped view on things then call it fact. Some of his sources were likely made by crack heads in someone's basement, yet because it was worded in a way that coddled his world views he latches onto it like a leech, then vomits it out to the rest for the rest of the world to see. He's just young, and likely hasn't experienced anything real in his life. Hell I'm 34 and never experienced a world like my mom, dad, grandparents, or great grandparents did.
Posted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusAgreed. I'd like to point out the Agancies were doing there job what they were meant to how they where meant to during his administration.Posted by LostthoughtsGood question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.Posted by ArgusYes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?Posted by LostthoughtsI appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.Posted by ArgusWow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.Posted by Lostthoughtsclick to expandPosted by AstrobynGross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Begs: " đ„șOh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it againđ"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
click to expand
click to expand
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
click to expand
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
click to expand
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!
click to expand
He picked or whom ever picked for him picked very very well. It was back to the basics in a good way, these laws and regulations protected us from ourselves. Kept a lot of the big players in check. Which I'm sure made the lobbiest job much more difficult.
While trumps current picks are looking like a fox in then hen house. He doesn't have the sharpness to keeep his own people in check. This will be heavily relient on his senoir advisors and staff.
click to expand
You'll have to forgive me for maintaining a healthy doze of skepticism with respect to the first two paragraphs since there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary but that is a whooooole other thread.
What I do know with certainty is they (politicians) & oligarchs alike belong to one big club and most of us aren't part of it! đ€·đ»ââïžclick to expand
" know with certainty is they (politicians) & oligarchs alike belong to one big club and most of us aren't part of it! đ€·đ»ââïž"
Yes I agree.
I always tell people there are worlds within worlds.
I see it like this, They are living and operating in the world at a level too far removed from us, tho they effect us greatly by osmosis.
This is why most of us who have a greater awareness beyond our own level are angry at them. When they play fuck around and find out with each other we are the ones who take the hit.
I'm not cool with being a playing piece to people who don't give a fuck what happens to me.
The anti war movement's slogan start with "bring our troops home". When it's not worth it anymore it's not worth it. When that fails, certain elements get militant and start targeting and going after parts of the gov. Then get personal going after leadership directly. You see play out over and over in human history.
On the brightside with this certain drama, no one actually wants to win the game. Because both sides know it's not worth pressing the other. There will be honest negotiations at some point.
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@Solo
This is my last time addressing your lack of basic comprehension skills ass! Let me break it down for you so perhaps then you'll get it through your thick skull. Jeffrey never claimed nor aserted Bill Clinton signed anything. He simply stated there was an agreement which apparently a whole fuckin world is well aware of except you.
Baring that in mind, before you say anything about how the agreement is invalid becuase there was no signatories, does that then give Russia or China or Iran etc carte blanche to establish their bases in the vicinity of US borders? Oh, right, we have precedence for that. NO da fuck they would not which is why we had Cuba misle crisis. Which, in about of irony, is what i pointed out to you just the other day. So apperently there was no signatories to that agreement either, but Russia honored it!
Furthermore, should you bring Crimea into the equation (like you did during our last interaction during which, may I remind you, you hurled personal insults at me sense any provocation)... they had a referendum back in 2014 in which the residents overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia. To which the US took an affront, but when Kososvo voted to split away from Serbia -which has been a part of for centuries (minus the brief stint during wwii when Italy invaded the region & annexed it to Albania)- NATO swooped in a bombed the shit out of Belgrade!
Serbia is a whole other discussion, however, what the example does, is perfectlyy highlight the hypocrisy of the US policy makers.
Additionally, it is exceptionally hypocritical of you to sit here & argue shit about Russia-Ukraine but when called out on Palestine- Israel bullshit, what's your response?! Exactly! You don't have time & energy to deal with that! Same excuse when I provided link after link, article after article pointing out lies and inconsistencies pertaining Russia-Ukraine, you came back with the same excuse as to how overwhelming it was & you weren't going to read it.
Bottom line, it's really reassuring to know how much more informed you are than Jeffrey Sachs or Saymour Hersh, or Aaron Mate or Chris Hedges (and the list goes on) most of whom are award winning, indipendant, journalists! Sure, I'll trust your judgment & the propaganda used to manufacture consent!
Okay so you don't know how NATO works and that any one country doesn't speak for NATO as a unit. Understood.
The Cuban Missile Crisis was in the middle of the COLD WAR LMFAO. Of course it's a little fucking different. How ignorant these kinds of statements are. We had put nukes in Turkey and Italy and agreed to remove them as long as the USSR did the same in Cuba. It didn't deal with a massive defensive alliance allowing people to join, it was dealing with an enemy of the US putting fucking nukes right outside of the US IN A TIME OF CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO.
Crimea.. the referendum was done like 3 weeks INTO the fucking invasion, dude. It's not how you're trying to paint it, which makes it seem like they had the referendum BEFORE being invaded and the population wanted to join Russia and then the invasion happened because of that. That's not what happened.
What IS my response on Palestine-Isreal? It's pretty much, "I don't know, but I wish people would stop dying. Shit sucks." Precisely BECAUSE I don't know a ton about it unlike yourself or others here who know little or not as much as they'd like to think, I'm capable of admitting I don't know shit and not speaking on it like I do! Again, that's the difference between people like yourself vs myself.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Don't have to. I don't feel the need to. I don't owe nobody a thing. I like to keep private about everything in life. I'm low key and like to remain low key.click to expand
đ€Ł just a trash talkin gemini as usual
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byDon't have to. I don't feel the need to. I don't owe nobody a thing. I like to keep private about everything in life. I'm low key and like to remain low key.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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đ€Ł just a trash talkin gemini as usualclick to expand
I'll let you have your fun and think I'm trash talking. I'm not finna go back and forth about posting my guitar playing with you especially at a time like this while I'm watching rassling. That is childish. Just accept I'm private and don't have to post notta. Now how bout goodnight to ya and I still loves ya.
@Lostthoughts
We are very much in agreement!
There will be honest negotiations at some point.â
In spite of my not being religious⊠may the words from your mouth enter gods ears because I already briefly experienced one war from which I was fortunate enough to flee. I would like to, at least, see my pets live out their full lives, if nothing else.
Heavens forfend this đ©(pardon my emoji lol) goes sideways, it is said it would take only 72min to a complete & mutual annihilation. Grim prospects indeed.
Letâs indeed hope this comes to swift resolution!
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by MyStarsShineThere are lotsPosted by Walk_on_byCan we see a pic of you?Posted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Posted by SoulPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.Posted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.
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Bro literally will take any source that aligns with his warped view on things then call it fact. Some of his sources were likely made by crack heads in someone's basement, yet because it was worded in a way that coddled his world views he latches onto it like a leech, then vomits it out to the rest for the rest of the world to see. He's just young, and likely hasn't experienced anything real in his life. Hell I'm 34 and never experienced a world like my mom, dad, grandparents, or great grandparents did.click to expand
Brother, you're 3 years older than me. What in the absolute fuck are you talking about. The world your mom, dad, grandparents lived in were worlds where black people weren't considered equal and women couldn't have their own credit cards. Where your dad could rape your mom and your grandpa could rape your grandma and it was LEGAL. I know that you're just an alcoholic who likes to get reactions but you're truly just fucking stupid for this shit.
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@Solo
This is my last time addressing your lack of basic comprehension skills ass! Let me break it down for you so perhaps then you'll get it through your thick skull. Jeffrey never claimed nor aserted Bill Clinton signed anything. He simply stated there was an agreement which apparently a whole fuckin world is well aware of except you.
Baring that in mind, before you say anything about how the agreement is invalid becuase there was no signatories, does that then give Russia or China or Iran etc carte blanche to establish their bases in the vicinity of US borders? Oh, right, we have precedence for that. NO da fuck they would not which is why we had Cuba misle crisis. Which, in about of irony, is what i pointed out to you just the other day. So apperently there was no signatories to that agreement either, but Russia honored it!
Furthermore, should you bring Crimea into the equation (like you did during our last interaction during which, may I remind you, you hurled personal insults at me sense any provocation)... they had a referendum back in 2014 in which the residents overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia. To which the US took an affront, but when Kososvo voted to split away from Serbia -which has been a part of for centuries (minus the brief stint during wwii when Italy invaded the region & annexed it to Albania)- NATO swooped in a bombed the shit out of Belgrade!
Serbia is a whole other discussion, however, what the example does, is perfectlyy highlight the hypocrisy of the US policy makers.
Additionally, it is exceptionally hypocritical of you to sit here & argue shit about Russia-Ukraine but when called out on Palestine- Israel bullshit, what's your response?! Exactly! You don't have time & energy to deal with that! Same excuse when I provided link after link, article after article pointing out lies and inconsistencies pertaining Russia-Ukraine, you came back with the same excuse as to how overwhelming it was & you weren't going to read it.
Bottom line, it's really reassuring to know how much more informed you are than Jeffrey Sachs or Saymour Hersh, or Aaron Mate or Chris Hedges (and the list goes on) most of whom are award winning, indipendant, journalists! Sure, I'll trust your judgment & the propaganda used to manufacture consent!
Okay so you don't know how NATO works and that any one country doesn't speak for NATO as a unit. Understood.
The Cuban Missile Crisis was in the middle of the COLD WAR LMFAO. Of course it's a little fucking different. How ignorant these kinds of statements are. We had put nukes in Turkey and Italy and agreed to remove them as long as the USSR did the same in Cuba. It didn't deal with a massive defensive alliance allowing people to join, it was dealing with an enemy of the US putting fucking nukes right outside of the US IN A TIME OF CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO.
Crimea.. the referendum was done like 3 weeks INTO the fucking invasion, dude. It's not how you're trying to paint it, which makes it seem like they had the referendum BEFORE being invaded and the population wanted to join Russia and then the invasion happened because of that. That's not what happened.
What IS my response on Palestine-Isreal? It's pretty much, "I don't know, but I wish people would stop dying. Shit sucks." Precisely BECAUSE I don't know a ton about it unlike yourself or others here who know little or not as much as they'd like to think, I'm capable of admitting I don't know shit and not speaking on it like I do! Again, that's the difference between people like yourself vs myself.click to expand
@argus
Argue wit me, bae
Posted by SoloPosted by SoulPosted by AstrobynBro literally will take any source that aligns with his warped view on things then call it fact. Some of his sources were likely made by crack heads in someone's basement, yet because it was worded in a way that coddled his world views he latches onto it like a leech, then vomits it out to the rest for the rest of the world to see. He's just young, and likely hasn't experienced anything real in his life. Hell I'm 34 and never experienced a world like my mom, dad, grandparents, or great grandparents did.Posted by SoloI have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.Posted by AstrobynWhat did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.
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Brother, you're 3 years older than me. What in the absolute fuck are you talking about. The world your mom, dad, grandparents lived in were worlds where black people weren't considered equal and women couldn't have their own credit cards. Where your dad could rape your mom and your grandpa could rape your grandma and it was LEGAL. I know that you're just an alcoholic who likes to get reactions but you're truly just fucking stupid for this shit.click to expand
Based.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by crabjunePosted by Jumpin_JupiterNo their not
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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We had a lot of weak ones right here under our noses. Biden ain't no different only better than the ones that were here. I don't know not one single solitary strong Scorpio in real life. In my everyday experience libra has proven to me time and time again to be the utmost strongest sign of them all. Do not believe everything astrologers say about Scorpio being the strongest. Their really pussycats underneath.click to expand
The fact that they got you thinking that they are weak just show you how covert they are.
RBTH: One of the key issues that has arisen in connection with the events in Ukraine is NATO expansion into the East. Do you get the feeling that your Western partners lied to you when they were developing their future plans in Eastern Europe? Why didnât you insist that the promises made to you â particularly U.S. Secretary of State James Bakerâs promise that NATO would not expand into the East â be legally encoded? I will quote Baker: âNATO will not move one inch further east.â
M.G.: The topic of âNATO expansionâ was not discussed at all, and it wasnât brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a singe Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didnât bring it up, either. Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATOâs military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces from the alliance would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Bakerâs statement, mentioned in your question, was made in that context. Kohl and [German Vice Chancellor Hans-Dietrich] Genscher talked about it.
Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled. The agreement on a final settlement with Germany said that no new military structures would be created in the eastern part of the country; no additional troops would be deployed; no weapons of mass destruction would be placed there. It has been observed all these years. So donât portray Gorbachev and the then-Soviet authorities as naĂŻve people who were wrapped around the Westâs finger. If there was naĂŻvetĂ©, it was later, when the issue arose. Russia at first did not object.
The decision for the U.S. and its allies to expand NATO into the east was decisively made in 1993. I called this a big mistake from the very beginning. It was definitely a violation of the spirit of the statements and assurances made to us in 1990. With regards to Germany, they were legally enshrined and are being observed.
M.G.: The topic of âNATO expansionâ was not discussed at all, and it wasnât brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a singe Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didnât bring it up, either. Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATOâs military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces from the alliance would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Bakerâs statement, mentioned in your question, was made in that context. Kohl and [German Vice Chancellor Hans-Dietrich] Genscher talked about it.
Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled. The agreement on a final settlement with Germany said that no new military structures would be created in the eastern part of the country; no additional troops would be deployed; no weapons of mass destruction would be placed there. It has been observed all these years. So donât portray Gorbachev and the then-Soviet authorities as naĂŻve people who were wrapped around the Westâs finger. If there was naĂŻvetĂ©, it was later, when the issue arose. Russia at first did not object.
The decision for the U.S. and its allies to expand NATO into the east was decisively made in 1993. I called this a big mistake from the very beginning. It was definitely a violation of the spirit of the statements and assurances made to us in 1990. With regards to Germany, they were legally enshrined and are being observed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/us/politics/russia-ukraine-james-baker.html
President Vladimir V. Putin and other Russian officials have asserted that Mr. Baker ruled out NATO expansion into Eastern Europe when he served as President George H.W. Bushâs top diplomat. The Westâs failure to live up to that agreement, in this argument, is the real cause of the crisis now gripping Europe as Mr. Putin demands that NATO forswear membership for Ukraine as the price of calling off a potential invasion.
But the record suggests this is a selective account of what really happened, used to justify Russian aggression for years. While there was indeed discussion between Mr. Baker and the Soviet leader Mikhail S. Gorbachev in the months after the fall of the Berlin Wall about limiting NATO jurisdiction if East and West Germany were reunited, no such provision was included in the final treaty signed by the Americans, Europeans and Russians.
âThe bottom line is, thatâs a ridiculous argument,â Mr. Baker said in an interview in 2014, a few months after Russia seized Crimea and intervened in eastern Ukraine. âIt is true that in the initial stages of negotiations I said âwhat ifâ and then Gorbachev himself supported a solution that extended the border that included the German Democratic Republic,â or East Germany, within NATO. Since the Russians signed that treaty, he asked, how can they rely âon something I said a month or so before? It just doesnât make sense.â
President Vladimir V. Putin and other Russian officials have asserted that Mr. Baker ruled out NATO expansion into Eastern Europe when he served as President George H.W. Bushâs top diplomat. The Westâs failure to live up to that agreement, in this argument, is the real cause of the crisis now gripping Europe as Mr. Putin demands that NATO forswear membership for Ukraine as the price of calling off a potential invasion.
But the record suggests this is a selective account of what really happened, used to justify Russian aggression for years. While there was indeed discussion between Mr. Baker and the Soviet leader Mikhail S. Gorbachev in the months after the fall of the Berlin Wall about limiting NATO jurisdiction if East and West Germany were reunited, no such provision was included in the final treaty signed by the Americans, Europeans and Russians.
âThe bottom line is, thatâs a ridiculous argument,â Mr. Baker said in an interview in 2014, a few months after Russia seized Crimea and intervened in eastern Ukraine. âIt is true that in the initial stages of negotiations I said âwhat ifâ and then Gorbachev himself supported a solution that extended the border that included the German Democratic Republic,â or East Germany, within NATO. Since the Russians signed that treaty, he asked, how can they rely âon something I said a month or so before? It just doesnât make sense.â
Wow, this thread has all the trolls in one spot! I guess this is as good of drama we're ever going to get before the close of 2024. đ€
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/us/politics/russia-ukraine-james-baker.html
President Vladimir V. Putin and other Russian officials have asserted that Mr. Baker ruled out NATO expansion into Eastern Europe when he served as President George H.W. Bushâs top diplomat. The Westâs failure to live up to that agreement, in this argument, is the real cause of the crisis now gripping Europe as Mr. Putin demands that NATO forswear membership for Ukraine as the price of calling off a potential invasion.
But the record suggests this is a selective account of what really happened, used to justify Russian aggression for years. While there was indeed discussion between Mr. Baker and the Soviet leader Mikhail S. Gorbachev in the months after the fall of the Berlin Wall about limiting NATO jurisdiction if East and West Germany were reunited, no such provision was included in the final treaty signed by the Americans, Europeans and Russians.
âThe bottom line is, thatâs a ridiculous argument,â Mr. Baker said in an interview in 2014, a few months after Russia seized Crimea and intervened in eastern Ukraine. âIt is true that in the initial stages of negotiations I said âwhat ifâ and then Gorbachev himself supported a solution that extended the border that included the German Democratic Republic,â or East Germany, within NATO. Since the Russians signed that treaty, he asked, how can they rely âon something I said a month or so before? It just doesnât make sense.â
Operation Mockingbird.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by Solo
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/us/politics/russia-ukraine-james-baker.html
President Vladimir V. Putin and other Russian officials have asserted that Mr. Baker ruled out NATO expansion into Eastern Europe when he served as President George H.W. Bushâs top diplomat. The Westâs failure to live up to that agreement, in this argument, is the real cause of the crisis now gripping Europe as Mr. Putin demands that NATO forswear membership for Ukraine as the price of calling off a potential invasion.
But the record suggests this is a selective account of what really happened, used to justify Russian aggression for years. While there was indeed discussion between Mr. Baker and the Soviet leader Mikhail S. Gorbachev in the months after the fall of the Berlin Wall about limiting NATO jurisdiction if East and West Germany were reunited, no such provision was included in the final treaty signed by the Americans, Europeans and Russians.
âThe bottom line is, thatâs a ridiculous argument,â Mr. Baker said in an interview in 2014, a few months after Russia seized Crimea and intervened in eastern Ukraine. âIt is true that in the initial stages of negotiations I said âwhat ifâ and then Gorbachev himself supported a solution that extended the border that included the German Democratic Republic,â or East Germany, within NATO. Since the Russians signed that treaty, he asked, how can they rely âon something I said a month or so before? It just doesnât make sense.â
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:O so now you DON'T believe the person who said what your initial reasoning was? The reasoning that Russia was allowed to invade Ukraine? You believe him when it suits your narrative and then when it doesn't, it's Operation Mockingbird? You're so gullible and brainbroken.
Subsidizing knitwear company ... I just can't!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/following-american-money-in-ukraine-60-minutes/
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by poppyflowerYou probably have a folder đ€ŁPosted by Walk_on_byYou're such a tease...Posted by MyStarsShineThere are lotsPosted by Walk_on_byCan we see a pic of you?Posted by Jumpin_JupiterYou still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.Posted by Walk_on_byđ I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterOi shut up m8
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
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Subsidizing knitwear company ... I just can't!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/following-american-money-in-ukraine-60-minutes/
Lmfao.
"In the midst of war, her company is supporting over 70 families."
Oh no, how dare we support her at all or any of them.
Way to cry about the dumbest shit. Yet you still don't care about J6, you don't care about Trump lying about tariffs, you don't care about the lies about the cats and dogs or how immigration works or any of that shit.
Nice to see the pedo pardon his pedo son of all crimes.
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Over the years, I dated 3 men( Virgo, Leo, Cancer), all of them pursued me but then wanted to keep me a secret.
One of them even said, " I didn't want to show
For some reason I got the desire to look up my Scorpio ex and then contact him after 20 years to say hello and see how he's doing. As soon as I said hi he said "A, I love you and my biggest regret was not marrying you. No other woman has ever made love
Okay so.. Iâve been seeing this Scorpio man for about 1.5 months. Iâm aware thatâs not a long time. We have spent nearly every weekend together and have a BLAST. The sex is off the charts. Itâs pretty obvious we want to be near each other. One of the prob
Hi,
Earlier this year I finally confessed my feelings to a Scorpio man. We were really good friends before I told him how I felt.
He would be the one who initiated contact most of the time and even the one who started the friendship. He added me on social
What did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.