boyfriend being shady. help me understand (Page 2)

@Gob_shite these are the aspects. I have to admit that the 12th house descriptions do fit very well. Not all of it, but the parts about a lot of things being subconscious and/or unexplainable between us is very true. That the thing that holds us together is nothing I could explain or even grasp, there is just some kind of bond that goes beyond all reason. And yeah, that most of our relationship takes place behind closed doors. I've had friends telling me that they don't really see the spark between us and its strange to not see us display any affection in public (especially from his side), when really, they have not the slightest idea of what is going on between us. And it does also explain why he feels like his night-outs with friends are not the right place for the relationship, that they are not miscible.

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Posted by aquamila


so here's our synastry @Blue_Froggie and whoever else asked for it

and before anyone starts hating on it 😢 , I am very aware that we are no match made in astrological heaven, but we've crossed so many obstacles and are still together, and happily so, so that must mean something...

. I'm in a hurry, so this will be a mini reading.

It is not a bad synastry, imo. It has enough aspects between personal planets like moon-Venus, Sun-Venus, Venus-Mars and aspects between angle rulers and sexual house rulers. And Saturn on IC although it can have it's restrictive energy it is also a very long lasting bond. At times it might feel like hard work, controlling and it can also bring out insecurities.

What is noticed is his Virgo Mars Quincunx your Saturn in Aries... mars in Virgo might have kinky wants and Saturn in aries may be a wet blanket. How expresses his sexual impulses/wants can be at odds with how you want to navigate the relationship/commitment. Not saying it is what's happening but it can be a possibility.

And the mercury-Mars square where you are the Mars can be a bit argumentative or it may not create a place to express oneself freely...

Otherwise synastry does look good and it looks long term also.

I didn't look at the natal aspects to see if any geometric patterns are being completed.

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thank you for that insight! 🙂 Haven't read about / seen those things anywhere online, it's nice to get a reading from someone who knows their stuff! What would it mean if geometric patterns were being completed?

Posted by lisabethur8
he's a watery moon? pisces moon?

here are some guys (three guys here ) from the astrotheme i picked out...

what's your man look like...very baby faced?



josh peck

scorpio/pisces

he looks babyish.

he has a singularity aquarius mars, the rest of him is water dominant.

baptiste giaconi. (he doesn't really have a baby face cause he's capricorn dominant, and cancer.





scorpio mars.

and jonny lee miller when he was youngish. he has sharper features but a sweet face.

he has alot of Libra (stellium) he married 2x a gemini sun .

it's that libra stellium of his.



i think that if he's serious about you, water dominant or not, which your bf has alot of...

and he has virgo mars singularity? jeezzz...

he's anal too, doesn't like to be surprised.

dont try to do surprises on him, Virgo does NOT like that shit in my experience.

like dont pop up and surprise him at work. or at school.

it has nothing to do with you, it's just his own mind wanting order.

that aries saturn too..

they hate chaos. dont even think to bring your chaos in their vicinity.

it's good you are capricorn dominant, or else you wouldnt understand.

my father in law is double virgo, scorpio dominant, stellium... and he hates chaos.

he's with a gemini but she's taurus and cancer dominant. gemini sun is her only placement in air.

He definitely does not have a baby-face, but it may be his overly serious and grown-up attitude covering that up. The only thing that would give him away as a Pisces moon are his eyes, and even that you wouldn't notice at first meeting or even fifth... I too believed he had an aries moon for months, and justifiably so - he tends to be REALLY impatient, is sort of a fighter at heart, very assertive... But anyway, why does it matter what he looks like?

About the Virgo mars, thank you for enlightening me, I never really understood what it was about and how it expresses itself

Posted by bittercupcake
Girl... he's cheating...

The moment a man (or woman) starts asking for you to give him a heads up... usually a sign that he needs to prepare and sort out the rest of his life... in other words hide you or details from you about a second life, he doesn't want you finding out about.

thank you for your advice, but I doubt he is cheating. He may have things to settle for himself, after all, we're still young and developing, but if he was cheating, I would know it. I am susceptive enough for any signs there would be, even from a scorpio man, and there haven't been any.

Posted by Gob_Shite
Okay, I’ve decided to concentrate on key indicators and not the entire table. I consider the aspects I looked at to be more influential towards making or breaking a relationship.

Okay, first of all, the attraction between the two of you is very strong, with moon quintile Mars (an emotional desire to engage in physical activities together), Mars conjunction Pluto (explosive lustful attraction) and Venus conjunction Mars (sexual and instant attraction). But what’s causing the fate-like attraction isn’t any of those but Venus conjunction Pluto, which generates intense passion and intimacy. So, that energy you previously mentioned is definitely there.

Saturn trine Ascendant indicates that this could be a long-lasting union, with sun sextile moon providing some extra glue to strengthen the relationship and moon sextile Saturn for emotional support. However, there are some contradictions. Sun-Uranus is all about exciting possibilities, but your hard aspect (sun semisquare Uranus) implies that the relationship won't completely get off the ground. This is further compounded by moon conjunction Uranus, which represents emotional uncertainty.

And then there are the other concerning issues as well. Moon quintile Pluto revolves around fear, paranoia and possessiveness (a hard aspect would have been worse to work with), Mars sesquiquadrate Saturn refers to control and oppression (a very serious hard aspect, IMHO) and Saturn sesquiquadrate Pluto deals with upheavals and hardships (as well as restrictions and inhibitions, as you’ve already mentioned earlier in the thread). However, what’s helping to smooth over most of these rough spots (for now) is moon sextile Venus, which provides some emotional balance. I’m assuming, as a result, conflicts or arguments are more manageable (or at least kept to a minimum).

Going back to Venus conjunction Pluto (i.e. fate-like attraction), this aspect can be a double-edged sword for a hard aspect such as yours, with manipulation and control becoming an issue for one partner. And lastly, there’s the Jupiter-Saturn aspect, which is all about mood swings and mutual support. With the hard aspect that you have (Jupiter semisquare Saturn), one partner will feel neglected at times (I’m assuming that would be you).

Based on the number of hard Mercury aspects, communication must be pretty frustrating at times. But, on the plus side, both moon sextile Mercury (understanding and appreciation) and Mercury trine Saturn (sharing, teaching and learning) are soft aspects that can be blessings in disguise.

Overall, I see a very passionate relationship but, once the lustful, physical and fate-like aspects are set aside, there are many challenges that suggest a bumpy ride. However, you both have some aspects that may help you along the way (e.g. Saturn trine Ascendant and moon sextile Saturn). I wouldn’t say your romantic union is awful, though, but it’s certainly not as smooth sailing as it could have been.

Thank you so much for taking the time, you have been truly helpful? all of that sounds very true to me, possibly more accurate than synastry even. It's reassuring to know there are solid aspects holding us together and providing some stability and harmony. And about the challenges, neither scorps nor aquas would want an easy ride anyway, we're known for getting bored with too much harmony🙂 so yeah, thank you again, you've probably been the most active user on this thread, and I really appreciate it☺

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Posted by lisabethur8
he's a watery moon? pisces moon?

here are some guys (three guys here ) from the astrotheme i picked out...

what's your man look like...very baby faced?



josh peck

scorpio/pisces

he looks babyish.

he has a singularity aquarius mars, the rest of him is water dominant.

baptiste giaconi. (he doesn't really have a baby face cause he's capricorn dominant, and cancer.





scorpio mars.

and jonny lee miller when he was youngish. he has sharper features but a sweet face.

he has alot of Libra (stellium) he married 2x a gemini sun .

it's that libra stellium of his.



i think that if he's serious about you, water dominant or not, which your bf has alot of...

and he has virgo mars singularity? jeezzz...

he's anal too, doesn't like to be surprised.

dont try to do surprises on him, Virgo does NOT like that shit in my experience.

like dont pop up and surprise him at work. or at school.

it has nothing to do with you, it's just his own mind wanting order.

that aries saturn too..

they hate chaos. dont even think to bring your chaos in their vicinity.

it's good you are capricorn dominant, or else you wouldnt understand.

my father in law is double virgo, scorpio dominant, stellium... and he hates chaos.

he's with a gemini but she's taurus and cancer dominant. gemini sun is her only placement in air.

He definitely does not have a baby-face, but it may be his overly serious and grown-up attitude covering that up. The only thing that would give him away as a Pisces moon are his eyes, and even that you wouldn't notice at first meeting or even fifth... I too believed he had an aries moon for months, and justifiably so - he tends to be REALLY impatient, is sort of a fighter at heart, very assertive... But anyway, why does it matter what he looks like?

About the Virgo mars, thank you for enlightening me, I never really understood what it was about and how it expresses itself

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hm cause you look like a sweet pretty girl, so i was wondering what he looks like.

if he's ugly and fat,and bulbous, and he's with you.....he might have some reservations ...cause he is not feeling good about his looks.

if he's super handsome, great buffed out body that alot of women like, then he might be just wanting to go out on the town without you. i have no idea. :/

Posted by GonS
As a scorpio man, I'm shady as hell. I never like to initiate my gf to my friends. I like one-to-one relationships.

can I piggyback this right here? am I too late? I wouldnt want my girl being around me when im wit my best friends...im two different ppl. fawk it, im shady too...worlds are colliding.

@lisabethur8 he is handsome, but not in a traditional way I would say. He has that sexy/mysterious scorpio aura, that makes girls fall for him. As his gf, I don't see that as a plus though ?

I get that, as a good-looking guy he has some vain tendencies, and likes getting a little female attention every now and then. And I totally grant him that. Everyone in a long-term relationship needs that little extra reassurance that one is still attractive to others. But I don't think that is the real reason he won't even introduce me to his friends.

Maybe it's, as @13th and @GonS say about themselves, that he just simply likes it separate. And as a Pisces moon, he is indeed a low-key escapist, hates awkward situations (in fact, almost any social situation) and is possibly just avoiding/procrastinating taking that step.

Thank you for your input though 🙂

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Posted by GonS
As a scorpio man, I'm shady as hell. I never like to initiate my gf to my friends. I like one-to-one relationships.

can I piggyback this right here? am I too late? I wouldnt want my girl being around me when im wit my best friends...im two different ppl. fawk it, im shady too...worlds are colliding.

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It's fine, you're def not too late, I appreciate your honesty 🙂 May I ask, in what ways you are different around your friends as opposed to with your girl? Are you letting out a side of you that you wouldn't want your gf to see / know about?

Did you ask him yet?

Posted by aquamila
@lisabethur8 he is handsome, but not in a traditional way I would say. He has that sexy/mysterious scorpio aura, that makes girls fall for him. As his gf, I don't see that as a plus though ?

I get that, as a good-looking guy he has some vain tendencies, and likes getting a little female attention every now and then. And I totally grant him that. Everyone in a long-term relationship needs that little extra reassurance that one is still attractive to others. But I don't think that is the real reason he won't even introduce me to his friends.

Maybe it's, as @13th and @GonS say about themselves, that he just simply likes it separate. And as a Pisces moon, he is indeed a low-key escapist, hates awkward situations (in fact, almost any social situation) and is possibly just avoiding/procrastinating taking that step.

Thank you for your input though 🙂

when i was with my ex long ago, the pisces sun conjunct, pisces mars, he'd introduce me to his guy friends.

i guess it's just different with everyone.

i dont see the point of not introducing your friends to your SO, nor do i see it as a big deal. it would raise red flags to me if they got defensive over it. like huh? whyyyy? you hiding something?

do you feel he is, bisexual or gay in any way? cause that got me thinking....

Posted by MyStarsShine
Did you ask him yet?

I've asked him already, multiple times. His responses are further up this thread. It still didn't make much sense to me though, his reasoning sounded rather shady to me, that's why I decided to ask for advice here.

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Posted by MyStarsShine
Did you ask him yet?

I've asked him already, multiple times. His responses are further up this thread. It still didn't make much sense to me though, his reasoning sounded rather shady to me, that's why I decided to ask for advice here.

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Sorry i didn't see them. If they seem shady, then the chances are they are

Gut feeling is never wrong, lady