For you Scorp

I want to break your heart and give you mine. You're taking me over.

Leo..loves scorp. 🦇

with all her heart.....

I've never been in a relationship like this in my life.

I'm so happy with I'm with him and when we are apart...if there is no contact sometimes I'm fine (due to being busy)..but when I notice...I'm miserable.

He doesn't want to be in a relationship because he is not stable in life..so he isn't willing to offer me stability.

He also doesn't see us being "together forever"...for some reason.

I told him that maybe we are both wasting our time.

I've gotten many requests for dates and I told him I would be going on one of those dates then (even though I'm forcing myself to because I want to be with him.)

His reply?

He doesn't want me dating other people and he thinks that what I said was "trashy" and "manipulative"

The honest truth is that I've been hurt in the past...

I know what it feels like to have someone suddenly disconnect with you just to find out that the w4ore went out with someone else.

So I was telling him about going out on a date with someone else so that he wouldn't be hurt and would find out from me instead of "with time".

I didn't go out on a date with someone else...I was supposed to this weekend.

Because he took up most of my time and ...thoughts.

I also didn't think it was right...because the truth is that I love him.

When he was completely obliterated drunk he had concerns about whether I was "cheating" and also confirmed that he didn't want me to be with other people.

He also was sulking because he said he wanted to make me feel really good and he wanted to make me happy.

...when the day before he said he didn't want a relationship.

He sounds and acts like he's very confused due to his instability...and this I understand.

I don't mean to pressure him but I need stability and we've been together for almost a year.

I love him so much and I don't know how I can express this... but I don't want to force him into something he doesn't want.

But then again what does he want? Is the real question.

The last time we spoke, before we spent a wonderful day together, he got jealous and said;

Why don't you go on your date with that guy you said you were going with and have a happy good ole' time FOR US!

and I replied calmly; Is that what you want?

He screamed; No!

I'm not sure what I should do, how I should feel, how I should proceed, or what is going on. I've already asked leo board but would like some scorp opinions. Any thoughts?

Aye que dramatico

@ Eyesoffire;
Me

Sun 08??50' Leo
Moon 25??49' Virgo
Mercury 06??04' Virgo
Venus 21??30' Leo
Mars 21??50' Scorpio
Jupiter 04??24' Capricorn
Saturn 09??59' Scorpio
Uranus 09??38' Sagittarius
Neptune 29??03' Sagittarius
Pluto 29??21' Libra

Him

Sun 22??05' Scorpio
Moon 18??56' Sagittarius
Mercury 13??48' Sagittarius
Venus 06??07' Scorpio
Mars 11??12' Libra
Jupiter 09??57' Aquarius
Saturn 29??41' Scorpio
Uranus 16??39' Sagittarius
Neptune 01??53' Capricorn
Pluto 05??16' Scorpio

@ Biggirlpanties; ::sigh:: I know. 😢

he's right, what you said was trashy and manipulative. cmon girle...post your chart too.

i think you dont really need any help. your doing A'0K 🙂

Posted by DazedScorp
Got the VinS right at least =/

she had to have some scorp in her to say some shit like that. gets his blood going.

Didn't like what the Leo's had to say? So you thought you'd hear what you wanted from el Scorpo's? Adios mio. 😢

@ DMV

I didn't mean to be "trashy" or "manipulative". It's just from personal experience I was really hurt when I found out that someone broke off with me just to go out with someone else.
That's why I decided to tell him instead of him directly, so that he could know from me- instead of him finding out in a sneaky "more trashy" way that what we had was "broken off for someone else". I also
wanted to let him know that I'm not breaking it off and dating others because of a false notion that "I've become interested in someone else"- but because he refuses to give me the stability I need. And that as a
human being if I can't get that stability from him, I'm bound to get it from somewhere else. Even if that not really what I want.

btw I posted my chart

Sun 08??50' Leo
Moon 25??49' Virgo
Mercury 06??04' Virgo
Venus 21??30' Leo
Mars 21??50' Scorpio
Jupiter 04??24' Capricorn
Saturn 09??59' Scorpio
Uranus 09??38' Sagittarius
Neptune 29??03' Sagittarius
Pluto 29??21' Libra

@Eyesoffire: I understand that he needs to find himself. But how long can I wait for this? I can help him on his journey or even support him. But how can I do this when he won't let me?

I'm not sure if he's nuts about me, or drowning himself in his love and passion for me...I would hope. Since I obviously am. ::sigh::

@ DazedScorp

haha Yeah you definitely got the venus right. How could you tell? :p

BigGirlPanties; It wasn't that I didn't like what the leos had to say. Actually there were no replies from both sides at first. I just wanted to get both perspectives to get a better point of view.
Very libra-like eh...weird. lol

"When I told him that I had decided to date other people I told him with the intention of breaking it off.

He told me; fine I'll go 888k other 3itches then.
I replied with self respect; I didn't tell you I was going to 888k anyone, just that I'm going to go on a date.
He then said; THAT"S WORSE!

Which to me didn't really make any sense.

A couple of days after he tried really hard to reconcile.

and it was a really wonderful time that we had which confused me even more.

In the conversation that I told him I would date other people I did state clearly that I needed and required stability. But he doesn't have a stable job, stable place of living (he's moving), or stable life in general.

His concern is that he can not provide me with stability, if his own life is not stable.

However, my way of thinking (and what I told

(and what I told him directly) is that sometimes in life when you affirm stability in one area...everything else seems to fall into place...as you try to conquer and assume stability in other areas of life."

What do you guys think I should do?

like i said in the leo board... Once thing I am sure of (even though he might be confused and unsure) is that I love him wholeheartedly and I'm not sure what to do with this. ::sigh:: 😢

@ dazedscorp; actually Scorp mars not venus..lol

@DazedScorp; lol I wish! With my Scorp mars I guess I yearn for that obsession. 😢 I guess I see it sometimes too...but don't know what in my placement..maybe virgo moon..refuses to acknowledge it without proof of stability. whoa is meee...::eeor the donkey voice from whinnie the pooh::

I'd like to thank you for all your advice so far...mew 😢

Oh my dear, my heart is bleeding for you in this. 😢

In her Leo post on this topic, I told her this:
'It sounds like you two have not had a conversation about your relationship without guarding. You both NEED that for the relationship to have a chance to both be happy - alone or together.'

Thought that brainstorming here may be of some aid. It seems like they're really guarded without super meaning to, because he definitely wants her and is freaked out about losing her... but its translating out into confusing actions and statements.

How can one begin to approach a Scorpion interest or lover about dropping the heart's defenses? Understandably it may not ever be 100% unguarded - but it's reasonable to attempt even unveil a 0.9999% change.

@ sheathedclaws ; Thank you so much. You're an angel. I'll think about a way to approach dropping the heart's defenses...:-\

No, just another Lioness in love with a Scorpion. You two have all the potential if you both have the strength to be stripped of defenses. I believe that I'm feeling alot of empathy for this in you, and I'm always a cheerleader for the Leo Female/Scorpion Male union 🙂

You'll find your way, in due time.

I appreciate your kind words. I hope so. 🙂

Posted by sweat.lioness
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"When I told him that I had decided to date other people I told him with the intention of breaking it off.

He told me; fine I'll go 888k other 3itches then.
I replied with self respect; I didn't tell you I was going to 888k anyone, just that I'm going to go on a date.
He then said; THAT"S WORSE!

Which to me didn't really make any sense.

Obviously I can't speak for him. My thoughts on this ^^^^

Dates are a threat, flucking someone for the hell of it isn't. He can fluck someone with no emotion just to get back at you, but should you go on a date? That's intimate, that's trying to get to know someone, that's showing interest, and taking away from him.

but why should that matter? (the threat)

I'm not sure what you mean, or what you want to hear. It's simple as explained.

He can fuck anyone and not give a flying monkey, you going on a date brings someone into the picture who is a threat to your current relationship/standings/friendship/fwb .... whatever it is you two call it. And as I explained why.

Imo, leo and scorpio are absolutely a bad match. Scorpio gets suspicious of leos flirtatiousness, leo feels trapped and offended by scorpios suspicion. Going on dates with other people is like confirming the suspicion. Even if you didn't mean it that way. Your scorpio wants a relationship, he's just scared of it also. Like what dazed said about freedom loving vs being obsessed.

::sigh:: I guess you guys are all right. Not what I want to hear, just need to hear. Yesterday he grabbed my phone because it was going off too much and read through my messages; he saw some that were unpleasant to him; ones with a guy practically begging to take me out to a date. He became very enraged and mentioned it about 10 times throughout the night. :-\

Posted by DazedScorp

Posted by sweat.lioness
@ dazedscorp; actually Scorp mars not venus..lol

No...

He has Venus in Scorp. He's obsessed with you, but with all that Sag in him, he wants his freedom. He's stuck between a rock and an uranium ore deposit.

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Obsession isn't love. he doesn't love her, he is obsessed with her, owning her and controlling her, she is equally obsessed with him. Their relationship, going on past posts, is nothing but turmoil. They both need to be out of this toxic story.

Obsession isn't love.

@celticlioness;

Actually past posts were based on a completely different issue which has been resolved. It was based on my lack of time, and him wanting to take my time. Lots of my time is required for my profession and he didn't understand that I needed that time (let alone appreciate that I was giving him the little time I had free- and was demanding more)

That issue is resolved.

We also use to argue and but heads a lot.

But currently, we are similar to best friends and lovers.- weird for fwb right?-

We talk everyday whether it's via text, phone, or in person. We talk about every topic ranging from our family, life in general, our jobs, our concerns, our goals, advice, rants about our day or people, how our day went, we've spent practically every holiday together and celebrated it for the past year. We go grocery shopping from time to time together, we've watched movies together and with his friends. He has had my friends sleep over his home and has catered to them when they have come to visit me. He cooks for me when I'm famished and tired from work. We have gone to multiple dinners. We sleep together often, wake up together, get dressed, shower.

And I'm pretty sure If I were a clingier sign ( that will remain unnamed lol) we would probably brush our teeth and piss/poop together.

However I do like my independence, as I am sure he enjoys his independence as well.

The issue I am having is with stability. In my profession most people are married, engaged, or in a serious relationship that can provide a significant amount of support in times of stress which is a lot.

I suffer from very bad diagnosed anxiety issues (so maybe I'm overthinking it) but I feel since I'm an only child, that takes care of a sick family member, with an amazing family ( however an amazing family able to provide some emotional support but not sufficient enough to deal with my profession).

A concern of psychiatrist, co-workers, and even friends is that I need some extra day to day emotional support. Although I get that from scorp. The instability does not really help, or in other words isn't inclusive of this support.

You are probably right, he might not be "in love" but obsessed, he might not be "obsessed" but inlove. And you are probably right he might not "want me" but "want control".

But we have not undergone "tormoil" ( other than the instability issue) for a while. And previous posts are irrelevant because those issues we've already beat a

dead horse, called her sally and resolved those issues.

I'd say have a good ole' chat about da relationship and what you ppls want out of it and etc. See if it matches up to what you both want out of a relship. If it matches so good if not move on. But til sit down and have the big ol talkies bout the ship then thing remain same. talk to each other bout ship or go separate ways.