i need help!! any advice would be much appreciated!! i've fallen for a cancer man and i don't know what to do to get him to fall in love with me. i'm a scorpio female and give amazing advice to friends, but when it comes to my own love life i lose all objectivity!!! help!! please!!
HELP - how to get a cancer man to fall in love?!?!
Perhaps go and meet up with him?
Perhaps go and meet up with him?

elle and stinger are 1000 million per cent spot on. you should never want to be with someone that badly imo...not healthy.
hello everyone!! good morning!! i must say that i was SO delighted to see that so many of you reached out to me in my quest for help! well, first i want to address this response:
i'm a sag rising with an aries moon so i tend to use exclamation points a lot, i think it's all that enthusiastic fire in my chart so it's not that i mean serious business, it's just that i was excited when i created the post. i had actually started on the cancer forum, but when i wasn't getting much advice there i thought i should probably go to the scorpio forum and try my luck here being a scorpio very much into astrology. unfortunately, i posted a lot more information on my cancer threads than on this thread so it would probably be in my best interest to provide you with more information so that you could help me even more than you already have. 🙂
i completely agree that you can't make someone fall in love with you!! that sentence, unfortunately, came out very wrong in my original post. perhaps it's my sag foot in the mouth syndrome...don't know actually.
i will agree that i tend to be obsessive, but i really try to overcome that part of my nature. i don't like trying to control any person. in fact, when it comes to personal relationships, that is the one area in which i try to not exert any pressure, control, or use manipulative tactics because firstly, i don't believe you can control anyone or make anyone feel something for you when you don't and secondly, i want someone to love me on their own accord.
my current problem is that i can be impatient and i have the feeling i will need a lot of patience when dealing with cancers...
any further advice would be greatly appreciated and if you all want me to provide more info about this situation just let me know and i'll cut and paste all the stuff on the cancer forum. i posted this late last night and was very tired after a long week 🙂
thanks so much again guys!! 🙂
Posted by seraph
Eleven exclamation marks means it's srs bzns.
i'm a sag rising with an aries moon so i tend to use exclamation points a lot, i think it's all that enthusiastic fire in my chart so it's not that i mean serious business, it's just that i was excited when i created the post. i had actually started on the cancer forum, but when i wasn't getting much advice there i thought i should probably go to the scorpio forum and try my luck here being a scorpio very much into astrology. unfortunately, i posted a lot more information on my cancer threads than on this thread so it would probably be in my best interest to provide you with more information so that you could help me even more than you already have. 🙂
i completely agree that you can't make someone fall in love with you!! that sentence, unfortunately, came out very wrong in my original post. perhaps it's my sag foot in the mouth syndrome...don't know actually.
i will agree that i tend to be obsessive, but i really try to overcome that part of my nature. i don't like trying to control any person. in fact, when it comes to personal relationships, that is the one area in which i try to not exert any pressure, control, or use manipulative tactics because firstly, i don't believe you can control anyone or make anyone feel something for you when you don't and secondly, i want someone to love me on their own accord.
my current problem is that i can be impatient and i have the feeling i will need a lot of patience when dealing with cancers...
any further advice would be greatly appreciated and if you all want me to provide more info about this situation just let me know and i'll cut and paste all the stuff on the cancer forum. i posted this late last night and was very tired after a long week 🙂
thanks so much again guys!! 🙂
Posted by ellessque
lol @ this scorpio with an aries moon 😛
WHERE IS YOUR MERC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and venus?)
hahahaha!!! another scorpio aries moon, hahahaha! hello!! 🙂
my venus is in scorpio retrograde - that might be problematic in love relationships according to what i've read about having a venus in retrograde. my mercury (and mars) are both also in sag!!
oh my, i forgot just how much fire i had in my chart!!! i told you there was A LOT!!
Posted by IntriguedScorp
Here's a better question: What can the Cancer man do to make me fall in love with him. 🙂
In my own personal dealings, when I have ventured into the "how can I make a man fall in love with me" thinking it was always, without exceptions, an unbalanced, co-dependent relationship prospect that was sure to be filled with drama and game playing. What is this man doing that is making you to become emotionally involved? really analyze this question.
IF, he is push/pulling, hot and colding, passion then no passion, etc etc etc... then you are in an unbalanced, verging on obsessive relationship.
IF, on the other hand he is wining and dining, sending you sweet messages, holding you hand or expressing himself romantically, etc etc...then what you have is real and you shouldn't have to do anything other then be yourself because it is already working. 🙂
Good luck
And thank you so much for your response IntriguedScorp!!! I definitely don't want an unbalanced, co-dependent relationship filled with game playing. in fact, a hate game playing and attempt to avoid it all costs. i know, i should be cool with my aries moon, and i think i have been in the past with the cancer guy. i think i confuse him actually...i would probably confuse anyone based on how i act when i feel the way i do...
well, i can't say that he is doing anything in particular that is making me become emotionally involved. we used to talk for several hours a day and i really got attached to him just by speaking to him daily. that, and he can be so sweet and funny, always making me laugh! i love to laugh!! in addition, he talked about how he wants a lot of children and the fact that he wasn't scared to talk about children openly made me like him. it was refreshing to talk to a guy who could actually discuss wanting a family because i feel like most men get scared by that topic. i'm not scared about discussing it so why should a man? that made me feel like he was a real man and not a coward...
plus, he talked about his childhood and his relationships with his parents and siblings. i could related to his feeling with his father. i think he feels like his dad tries to control him and he rebels against that. i also rebel when my parents try to control me so i can relate to him. there just seemed to be a lot in common.
plus, as a scorp, i can spot a compatible part
Posted by ellessque
holy shit, batman. you are *me* with venus in scorpio and a mars in sag.
my libra in venus has NOTHING on your venus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛
yeah, you need to just relax a bit and not touch anything for awhile. Let him reach out to you.
you can come can come across as a bit obsessive. you don't want to do that. not with all the major life events (moving..etc) going on his life. crabby men can be REALLY sensitive at times.....and *WE* can be a bit bossy and over the top when we can have something we want RIGHT NOW.
go get some ice cream and take a walk in the part somewhere, feed the ducks....stalk his facebook page. just don't text the snot out of him. breathe and wait, breathe and wait (I know patience sucks ass, but it's well worth it)
hello again ellessque!!! it's great to hear from you again!! 🙂 and to see that we are even more alike! oh, i think i would be much more lighthearted with a venus in libra, that must be nice!! you must be very sweet in love relationships. i could learn a lot from you! 🙂
i don't want to come off as obsessive, definitely not!! i try my hardest not to do that. and i think i have given him a lot of space since his move. he told me that he had a lot going on in his life right now and i respected that. he is very sensitive, i see that in him. he tries to be really manly and not express his emotions much, but he is always there for me when i'm down and feeling low so i know he is a sensitive man. if he wasn't sensitive he wouldn't always be there for me when i'm expressing sadness. so i appreciate that aspect of his character.
haha, i know how bossy we can be when we want something, but i've ALWAYS
i have left him alone for about 10 days now. i haven't contacted him and honestly, it's been hard because i'm used to talking to him every day, but i noticed that in the past when i didn't contact him for around that same length of time he immediately texted back the minute i texted him and then he would start initiating contact with me as well when he had gotten lazy about it before the "no contacting him" stage. he would also text me back the minute i texted him after that stage. i took this last break from him because i needed the space. like you said, eat some ice cream, take a walk in the park, and not obsess. i've been trying my hardest to do exactly!!
Posted by iwin32
Just be friends with him and go from there and if you already fell for him, well, just wait for him to do it as well. We can fall pretty fast. Be honest and sincere and everything will be fine but don't force him to do anything or make yourself look needy or clingy because he will back away. Just go with the flow.
iwin32!!! hello!!! and thank you as well for your response!! it's wonderful to hear a cancer male's perspective!! 🙂
i'm trying to do the "just friends" thing, and i think i'm doing well with it so far. i only get upset when i think he is getting sexual with other girls and i can't help not getting jealous. don't get me wrong, i totally hate feeling that way and i don't blame him for it because it's my fault i feel jealous, but it is hard. i'm trying to wait for him and i would LOVE it if he fell fast, but he is not very good at communicating his emotions, not good at all actually. and i think he is very, very scared of rejection. which is hard for me to get a grasp on because i can take A LOT of rejection as long as i think i can succeed and get what i want in the end...
i have tried my hardest to be honest and sincere. with my sag rising and aries moon i think i'm very good at being genuine and forthright. and with my sag rising, i've never tried to restrict, force, or control him because i'm very sensitive to that kind of thing. i hate to feel like someone is controlling me and i will rebel against it.
as for the clingy and needy, i try not to be. i really do. what kinds of things would you construe as "needy" or "clingy" iwin32? please do give more advice if you can!! i really appreciated your post and i'm trying to just go with the flow!
btw, what decan of cancer are you? just curious! 😉
Posted by MidniteStar
Obsession is my middle name. I can definitely relate to everything you are feeling. I've even been obsessed over a Cancer guy or two or three...hehe.
Scorpio Sun, Venus, Merc and Jupitor with a Leo Moon.
While I have yet to conquer my obsession, (and it's a real bummer), I have learned to keep it under wraps...bottled up...hidded. Well, at least the best I can. I'm sure it still shines through every now and again. When I get obsessed with a guy now, (I really hate that word obsessed), I try to find out everything I can about him. I read all about the company he works for etc. I become an investigating freak. It helps to get this out of my system without him even knowing I'm obsessed with him. Actually, my secret obsession has worked to my advantage a time or two. I've actually found out some things on a couple of guys that completely turned me off. My obsession then ended.
Work, friends, work, movies, work, reading, work, shopping, work etc. has also helped get my mind off of that dreaded obsession. Perhaps, soon, I can rid it from my life completely.
Hi MidnightStar!! So nice to hear from you!! 🙂
i admit, i used to be much more guilty than I am now as well when it comes to investigating my love interest. i used to do all i can to find out about them, but for the past few years, i have really tried to curb that tendency because i want to be surprised by the person. now, with this cancer guy, since his move, i have tried to find out stuff about him. anything i can actually. and, like you, i think it's a good tool. sometimes we do find out undesirable things about the person and that has ended my interest as well. then and there for good!!
i had one taurus friend tell me that before i even go on a date i should run a background check on the guy!!! now, i've never done that before and don't want to, but i can see where she is coming from.
i also keep my "obsession" (hate the word too so i get you on that!) under wraps, but it shines through sometimes as well. my problem is that i want someone to love me completely and i'm hoping to find someone that will love even that somewhat undesirable trait as well, because, well, it's not like i can lose it. i can try and curb it, and work against it, but it's still there nonetheless.
i'm so happy to hear from someone else who relates to me!!! YAY!! 🙂

Good lord, this isn't healthy.
Crushing to the near point of obsession is one thing. We've all been there at some point. But when you've gotten to the point where you're begging people to advise you in how to MAKE him fall in love with you- not healthy. It will not lead to a healthy relationship either, assuming if it were to work out.
Unrequited love sucks, but you need to keep yourself grounded and realize that you cannot make anyone fall for you. If you have to "make" someone fall for you, there's something wrong with the situation.
Yes, I saw where you said you don't necessarily mean "make," but you basically are looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions into working in your favor. Love is supposed to come naturally. Not by force of any means.
Get your estrogen in check.
Crushing to the near point of obsession is one thing. We've all been there at some point. But when you've gotten to the point where you're begging people to advise you in how to MAKE him fall in love with you- not healthy. It will not lead to a healthy relationship either, assuming if it were to work out.
Unrequited love sucks, but you need to keep yourself grounded and realize that you cannot make anyone fall for you. If you have to "make" someone fall for you, there's something wrong with the situation.
Yes, I saw where you said you don't necessarily mean "make," but you basically are looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions into working in your favor. Love is supposed to come naturally. Not by force of any means.
Get your estrogen in check.
Posted by seraph
This is turning out nicely. 🙂
thank you seraph!! i'm certainly making new friends! 🙂
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Good lord, this isn't healthy.
Crushing to the near point of obsession is one thing. We've all been there at some point. But when you've gotten to the point where you're begging people to advise you in how to MAKE him fall in love with you- not healthy. It will not lead to a healthy relationship either, assuming if it were to work out.
Unrequited love sucks, but you need to keep yourself grounded and realize that you cannot make anyone fall for you. If you have to "make" someone fall for you, there's something wrong with the situation.
Yes, I saw where you said you don't necessarily mean "make," but you basically are looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions into working in your favor. Love is supposed to come naturally. Not by force of any means.
Get your estrogen in check.
hello rockyroadicecream! i think you have misconstrued this entire thread unfortunately. i have repeatedly said that i don't believe you can "make" a person fall in love with you, and i wouldn't want to do that anyway if i could. i created this topic late last night, as i wrote before, and didn't think much about the wording. is it wrong to ask people for advice? i don't know why you think i'm begging... i think not...i'm curious and there's nothing wrong with trying to understand human behavior, which is essentially what i'm trying to do here with other people, who might be able to provide some valuable insight.
i am NOT looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions either. i'm sorry you think i would want to. again, i think that goes back to my unfortunate wording of my topic heading - i'm sorry about that. as for my actions, all i'm guilty of in that respect is always trying to not hurt his feelings because i think he is very sensitive to any type of criticism. i just wish he could open himself up more. it's like he protects himself so much and i don't know why or understand it.
i'm quite at a loss as to why you think i need more estrogen...
i would hope we all could be nice to one another here... 🙂
Guns'n'Roses- Lies, Lies and Lies.
Guns'n'Roses- Lies, Lies and Lies.

Posted by scorpfrancePosted by rockyroadicecream
i would hope we all could be nice to one another here... 🙂click to expand
Welcome to DXP, land of disenchantment.
Take what you like and leave the rest. This place is not for the weak of heart.
Im glad you are here, you will add a lot to us and hopefull receive a lot as well. 🙂
Posted by Capriquoise
Guns'n'Roses- Lies, Lies and Lies.
hello Capriquoise! why do you say the above? i'm not lying.
Posted by BigGirlPantiesPosted by scorpfrancePosted by rockyroadicecream
i would hope we all could be nice to one another here... 🙂
Welcome to DXP, land of disenchantment.
Take what you like and leave the rest. This place is not for the weak of heart.
Im glad you are here, you will add a lot to us and hopefull receive a lot as well. 🙂click to expand
Hello BigGirlPainties! thankfully i have a very strong heart so i have been taking what i like and pretty much not letting the rest effect me. and thank you for welcoming me!! 🙂
i hope to receive a lot and provide some help to others as well!! 🙂

Posted by scorpfrance
hello rockyroadicecream! i think you have misconstrued this entire thread unfortunately. i have repeatedly said that i don't believe you can "make" a person fall in love with you, and i wouldn't want to do that anyway if i could. i created this topic late last night, as i wrote before, and didn't think much about the wording. is it wrong to ask people for advice? i don't know why you think i'm begging... i think not...i'm curious and there's nothing wrong with trying to understand human behavior, which is essentially what i'm trying to do here with other people, who might be able to provide some valuable insight.
i am NOT looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions either. i'm sorry you think i would want to. again, i think that goes back to my unfortunate wording of my topic heading - i'm sorry about that. as for my actions, all i'm guilty of in that respect is always trying to not hurt his feelings because i think he is very sensitive to any type of criticism. i just wish he could open himself up more. it's like he protects himself so much and i don't know why or understand it.
i'm quite at a loss as to why you think i need more estrogen...
i would hope we all could be nice to one another here... 🙂
Again, love is supposed to be natural. Not "HOW DO I GET HIM TO LIKE ME??" If it ain't happening on it's own, back the hell off and quit being so selfish in how you can get him to like you more than a friend. I will never understand people who think that if they change some part of themselves or behave a different way that it will work in their favor. If being you isn't going to get their attention, then guess what? It's not meant to be. Shocking, I know. Just because you're infatuated doesn't mean he has to be.
You can go on about trying to "understand human behavior" but all you have expressed is being obsessive and stalkerish in the past, as well as walking on eggshells in fear of him being turned off to the situation. You really haven't addressed what it is about him that you're trying to figure out. Just how to change YOUR approach for his widdle ego in fear of losing him. Learning human nature? No. Bending over backward to get him to like you? Yes. Again, get that estrogen under control. It's just a guy.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by scorpfrance
hello rockyroadicecream! i think you have misconstrued this entire thread unfortunately. i have repeatedly said that i don't believe you can "make" a person fall in love with you, and i wouldn't want to do that anyway if i could. i created this topic late last night, as i wrote before, and didn't think much about the wording. is it wrong to ask people for advice? i don't know why you think i'm begging... i think not...i'm curious and there's nothing wrong with trying to understand human behavior, which is essentially what i'm trying to do here with other people, who might be able to provide some valuable insight.
i am NOT looking for ways to manipulate someone's emotions either. i'm sorry you think i would want to. again, i think that goes back to my unfortunate wording of my topic heading - i'm sorry about that. as for my actions, all i'm guilty of in that respect is always trying to not hurt his feelings because i think he is very sensitive to any type of criticism. i just wish he could open himself up more. it's like he protects himself so much and i don't know why or understand it.
i'm quite at a loss as to why you think i need more estrogen...
i would hope we all could be nice to one another here... 🙂
Again, love is supposed to be natural. Not "HOW DO I GET HIM TO LIKE ME??" If it ain't happening on it's own, back the hell off and quit being so selfish in how you can get him to like you more than a friend. I will never understand people who think that if they change some part of themselves or behave a different way that it will work in their favor. If being you isn't going to get their attention, then guess what? It's not meant to be. Shocking, I know. Just because you're infatuated doesn't mean he has to be.
You can go on about trying to "understand human behavior" but all you have expressed is being obsessive and stalkerish in the past, as well as walking on eggshells in fear of him being turned off to the situation. You really haven't addressed what it is about him that you're trying to figure out. Just how to change YOUR approach for his widdle ego in fear of losing him. Learning human nature? No. Bending over backward to get him to like you? Yes. Again, get that estrogen under control. It's just a guy.click to expand
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oh geez, apparently my long post was entirely deleted. basically, i told rockyroadicecream that i was not an obsessed teenager. and i don't want to banter back and forth any longer either about my behavior. I AM NOT SELFISH. if anything, i'm too selfless. and i don't want to change myself. someone should love me for me, faults and all.
Posted by seraph
If there is already *some* attraction there, then scorpfrance's question is actually legitimate. Sometimes love needs a little "push."
Though I hope scorpfrance is able to take the matter lightly enough to not have it interfere with the rest of her life. That sort of disruption most certainly isn't healthy.
Having said that, there is always *some* level of manipulation involved in the courting process. It's expected, and not really a thing to be dismissed. It requires the proper perspective. And a little experience. You should know what you're doing. The courting process is as much *strategy* as it is *natural*. But all this comes with experience, and it definitely comes with some disappointments along the way.
I would wait to see if scorpfrance establishes an UNHEALTHY PATTERN before getting into any heavy discussion about obsession, etc. At this point she just seems like an over-enthusiastic girl-scout eager to get her next badge. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. 😉
thank you seraph!!! it feels good to have someone stick up for me here!! 🙂 and i agree with you that my question was a legitimate one. not to worry, i am not having this interfere with the rest of my life and i AM NOT OBSESSED!!!
if anything, i'm sure the cancer guy would think of me as anything but obsessed with him!! i actually think my emotional coolness confused him. just so you know, I'm a sag rising with a need for freedom in personal relationships and an aries moon so i'm not about restricting or controlling anyone.
and i think you hit the nail on the head seraph. my sag rising does give me a polyana outlook on life, most definitely an over-enthusiastic woman who sees the silver lining in every situation!!!
Just having fun, like the song.

I say get to know him, flirt a little, be friendly and not overly friendly. Don't sleep with him. You may not even like him once you get to know him better. See where it goes. Don't rush or force it. Scorpio's must learn patience with Cancers!

If you're not obsessed, then why are you freaking out over trying to prove so? To be so defensive makes one wonder what you're hiding. 😉

Posted by ellessque
lol @ this scorpio with an aries moon 😛
WHERE IS YOUR MERC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and venus?)
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I wanted to know if you could point me in the right direction to understand my chart better. I know what my chart is, but I don't know what it all means. Is there a site I could check out?
Oh and good luck scorpfrance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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