I think this is something that has always been - my older friends and family tells story of how their older ones used to use terms like this. I think it's their way of whipping us into shape... 😉 Like how the law interfers with every aspect of our lives *shrugs*
Most things happening now has been done to death - infidelity was identified in, oh say the 'bible', some communities made polygamy legal, etc... it's just more open now.
''I meant taking on others responsiblites''
I'm not sure about this but my thoughts on it is you can't take others responsibilities if you're not fully aware of yourself as an individual or haven't fully been concerned for yourself previously. Not knowing yourself and the responsibility you're able to take on is the mess being made of emotional/platonic/business relationships these days. I would love for Marriage ideas to advocate not losing individuality for each partner. I see a lot of people in relationships taking on responsibilities but coming out feeling robbed of life in general and being very bitter...but sticking it out...who knows eh - each to his or her choices...
Ok it's too early - I'm off to chasing unicorns and rainbows...lalala
*curses at unicorns and rainbows - 'slippery buggers!'*
''People can walk in and out and back into relationships again without any worries''
Hmm, I think it's just more open now - stories from my grandparents age, my parents, consists of people that walked in and out of relationships back in the day but they said it with a certain tone and expression on their faces...these days, it's oh well...who cares...
One thing stands out to me though, Earth signs seems to be the ones bothered by this aspect of humanity more than other signs...I was raised majorly by Earth 🙂 They did their best to whip us into shape, my earth sis and bro are model kids by their standards - I and my water bro...lol...
I think you're missing the point cappy; the government has attached legal issues to marriage. Get divorced after years of marriage and what happens? Somebody is getting paid and someone is getting raped. Same two people live together for the same amount of time and split up...what happens? They go their separate ways and that's that, none of that ridiculous alimony crap.
There are many legal issues to consider with marriage, why do you suppose that pre-nups are so popular when wealthy people marry? The answer to why people don't want to commit is exactly what is wrong with marriage...it's all about money. Why are people afraid to just proclaim their love and live together happily without the government telling them that it recognizes their union? What do they gain from a love standpoint? Not a damn thing, but they stand to lose a lot if they ever split up.
Think about it; you can come home from work one day and find everything you owned is gone...household contents, bank accounts, cars, boat, kids, etc, etc. Your spouse decided it's over and took it all...what can you do about it? Not a damn thing, you have to go hire an attorney with money you don't have because your spouse beat you to it, and even if you do have access to money...same thing...it's costing you just to attempt to get what's rightfully yours back. And you want to know why people are afraid to commit? Surely you jest?
Other than a financial safety net usually for the woman, what else does marriage do for a person that living together unmarried doesn't do? I'm telling you, the only difference is the financial aspect.
Think about it; you can come home from work one day and find everything you owned is gone...household contents, bank accounts, cars, boat, kids, etc, etc. Your spouse decided it's over and took it all...what can you do about it? Not a damn thing, you have to go hire an attorney with money you don't have because your spouse beat you to it, and even if you do have access to money...same thing...it's costing you just to attempt to get what's rightfully yours back. And you want to know why people are afraid to commit? Surely you jest?
Hahaha, I know this is a losing battle but dude, you have mensioned all the negative things that come if a marriage ends. All the extremes and some -- believe it or not, not all every marriage ends that badly.
One thing stands out to me though, Earth signs seems to be the ones bothered by this aspect of humanity more than other signs...I was raised majorly by Earth They did their best to whip us into shape, my earth sis and bro are model kids by their standards - I and my water bro...lol...
Taurus, capricorns and some virgos like to be models, its part of our earthly natures to show the whole "if I can do, you can do too" kind of attitude lol. I have four brothers -- a virgo, a leo (for the longest I thought he was a Leo/Virgo but I confused the days lol), two geminis bros. So yeah, being the capricorn in the bunch, I know what you mean -- that may be why my Virgo brother and I don't get along 🙂 My leo brother is trying to get his act together ... now my gem brothers are awesome, the youngest brother of mine is doing far better then my older virgo brother ... in a emotional sense.
Anyway, so yeah I know what you mean.
I guess its thats the conservative part of us earth signs 🙂 I just wonder how the next generation of adults will turn out with the rise of open relationships 🙂 I'm not implying that they are bad -- to each there own. However, I can't help but wonder ... 😉
''I just wonder how the next generation of adults will turn out with the rise of open relationships''
My Virgo Aunt says exactly that 🙂
We'll all be fine just like their generations were when their parents said exactly that...we go along with the times, making necessary adjustments...but keep doing what you do Earthlings 😉
I needed a solid cappy foundation, my Saggie side was all over the place. Very valid point 🙂
Unmarried couples share bank accounts too and mortagages. And I have seen many actually lose more in those relationships than marriagaes.
I was going to get to that with SSP 😄 Thats right, thats not saying that you don't lose when you are married. When you share a life with someone and you split-up either way, you lose. I think you lose more when unmarried as well. My brother is a perfect testiment to that -- but he blames the women. Whatever 😛
We'll all be fine just like their generations were when their parents said exactly that...we go along with the times, making necessary adjustments...but keep doing what you do Earthlings
I share hope so Zena, I would hate to be 60 years old and having to witness a bunch of robots walking the earth -- I say, "God, take me now!!!" lol
"I think if someone decides to not get married it should be because they decided that it is something that they cannot do rather than something someoneelse cannot do."
Testament of necessary adjustments - ''Unmarried couples share bank accounts too and mortagages. And I have seen many actually lose more in those relationships than marriagaes.''
Some countries have new laws similar to prenup for unmarried couples...*shrugs*
🙂 Aries Sun, Cap Moon, Taurus Rising...the bane of my existence, but what can you do eh?
Yea you wish Cappy, there will be Earth robots too - thought you would get off lightly...didn't you? no chance!
to be honest,I think the actions MsSuperior mentioned are of parasites who didn't get all that nonsense out of their system before marriage,and they feel they're missing out on some bullshit,being all sad and 'oh wow,this is soooo sexy,and naughty...I'm lke episode 6 of 'bbullshit in the city!!! I feel so alive' ...or something
Ctoun said, 'Marriage calls for being together even when things are not goin smooth.'
Hmmm this is true but I would have to sit down, ponder and seriously consider exactly who has the problem when their dick rises,looks and progresses into another woman's warmth.
i think she was saying more in terms of disagreement of some sort... and not cheating...ie having issues with choices,egoes,etc...
''where I am currently placed men have torrid affairs with their female workmates but sex is not the only thing that they give. They give money, a house, will probably get kids with the other woman and yeh more expenses. ''
See the problem - bringing the affair closer the home by having it with a workmate. So many things at risk so the things you mentioned being offered is a way to show the women they're respected or maybe a bribe to keep them quiet 😉 In this case, it's highly likely the wife/other partner will find out.
''So the man has two houses and most men are not good managers so guess who will lose out? ''
Hehe - we could talk about this for days! The assumption here is that the man is not a good manager but we all know women run the show. The man earns enough to cater to both women's needs...the women take care of the finances. They demand, the guy provides... may not be a good manager but he is logical - and if he treats the affair this way, I'm afraid in a lot of cases, their public partners don't find out. Logical affairs can be 1 night stands, choosing an independent mistress who want nothing but sex (true story) and is not interested in you otherwise. Or the guy learns to keep his home life completely seperate so he women have no idea he is married. Another scenerio, the guy is not actually the sole financial bread-winner and sometimes the wife earns more than he does but the wife shares her finance and gives him the lion-share as some women learn that to worship the ground men walk on!
''I'd rather be lonely than alone!'' - I interpreted this as 'you'll rather be lonely hoping for the right one than at the same time hook up with any to avoid being alone' was just confused - same thing I thing. I used similar but I say 'I'm alone doesn't mean I'm lonely' 🙂
Suggestion for another thread Alone vs loneliness...
''Whether you choose to act that's yours!(Assumption is partners are women!)If it is men well hehehe!''
Thanks - they are not always women - sometimes the partners are male
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I think this is something that has always been - my older friends and family tells story of how their older ones used to use terms like this. I think it's their way of whipping us into shape... 😉 Like how the law interfers with every aspect of our lives *shrugs*
Most things happening now has been done to death - infidelity was identified in, oh say the 'bible', some communities made polygamy legal, etc... it's just more open now.
''I meant taking on others responsiblites''
I'm not sure about this but my thoughts on it is you can't take others responsibilities if you're not fully aware of yourself as an individual or haven't fully been concerned for yourself previously. Not knowing yourself and the responsibility you're able to take on is the mess being made of emotional/platonic/business relationships these days. I would love for Marriage ideas to advocate not losing individuality for each partner. I see a lot of people in relationships taking on responsibilities but coming out feeling robbed of life in general and being very bitter...but sticking it out...who knows eh - each to his or her choices...
Ok it's too early - I'm off to chasing unicorns and rainbows...lalala