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What is the most loyal Venus/Mars sign?
Most Loyal Venus and Mars Signs in Astrology
Cancer and Taurus are considered highly loyal Venus and Mars signs, known for their commitment and dependability in relationships. Leo tends to be loyal as well, but often seeks admiration and attention. Loyalty varies based on individual charts, but these signs are commonly associated with strong fidelity.
Leo Venus for sure
I'm Venus in Taurus. Loyal til the soil.
I heard Scorpio Venus are loyal too. Don't have first hand knowledge tho
I have none of these but I would say
Cancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Cancer mars?
Venus in capricorn/Mars in Taurus?
cancer & virgo.
even if you hurt and abuse them they will stick around
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.
Libra Venus/Cancer Mars and I am pretty loyal. When my libra love is going through hell, I would hold his hand and walk beside him, if he let me.
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
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I have heard it nick name the murder mars lol but I have Pisces mars... I find people placement to be so sweet. Although... I have alot of water bits that's probably why.. Scorpio moon, Pisces mars, and. Cancer sun... Look for me in the obituaries plz lmao
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
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Thought it was the placement for people who beat their significant others but I'm not sure.
As to the thread topic, I'm a Cancer Venus and Taurus Mars, I don't think anyone would call me the most loyal lol.
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
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Aspects. I think usually mars-moon (squared/opposition).
And the stereotype is murder mars.
Although a lot of serial killers don't have that placement.
Serial killers generally don't have a guilt complex (hell, they usually don't feel anything at all), and cancer mars is a guilt complex placement.
Posted by Aries_Luminary
I'm Venus in Taurus. Loyal til the soil.I heard Scorpio Venus are loyal too. Don't have first hand knowledge tho
I was involved with a Gem Sun, Aqua Moon, Taurus Venus who was in a relationship with a Taurus and was cheating on the Taurus emotionally...
I'm a Cancer Venus and Mars and usually pretty loyal but too many hurts or not feeling loved/appreciated can send me looking for it elsewhere.
I do tend to stay in bad situations longer than I should. Maybe its my Gem Sun and merc or Libra moon that's led me astray before..
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
Thought it was the placement for people who beat their significant others but I'm not sure.
As to the thread topic, I'm a Cancer Venus and Taurus Mars, I don't think anyone would call me the most loyal lol.
Lol well @Chuckcem told me it was the serial killey placement ... so I'm going based on his data ?
But as far as Taurus mars... I have that! And Aquarius venus and I am extremely loyal to those I care about... if I don't care about you, you will surely know. My square aspect thoUgh makes me very intense and prone to bouts of aggression since It hits my Pluto hard 😉
I like to release that in sexual spurts but when I don't... I can be a nightmare and extremely aggressive
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It seems I was wrong then. 😆
Taurus Mars is quite the placement, not sure of my aspects though. I don't have bouts of aggression, I just ice people if I've reached the limits with them.
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
Aspects. I think usually mars-moon (squared/opposition).
And the stereotype is murder mars.
Although a lot of serial killers don't have that placement.
Serial killers generally don't have a guilt complex (hell, they usually don't feel anything at all), and cancer mars is a guilt complex placement.
@Chuckcem have you been giving me the wrong deeets...? Lol
According to my good frriiiiieeeend ... he says there is a common streak in killers with Cancer Mars... bur I haven't verified it's authenticity.
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Someone posted a list of serial killers I think on the Virgo forum?
The trend seemed to be mutable and fixed mars, the exception being Aries Mars.
Cancer mars is more like the Hulk - we need to be pushed too far before we snap. So I can see how we got the name murder mars.
As for serial killers, they usually operate with little to no provocation (sociopathic tendencies).2 of the most prolific serial killers, Richard Ramirez and Andrei Chikatilo, had Mars Aqua and Mars Virgo respectively.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.
I'm a Virgo Venus, Gemini Mars, and Cancer Saturn. And where the other person said that a Cancer Saturn will be loyal, even if it hurts themselves... yep, that's definitely me.
So I'm leaning towards agreeing that a Cancer Saturn is the answer here.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.Lol so I assume Capricorn in saturn is lusty...? ?
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Are you?
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.Lol so I assume Capricorn in saturn is lusty...? ?
Are you?
Yes ☹️
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Loud and clear ?
Leo venus and cap mars ?
I have a good friend taurus venus and scorpio mars. He is always cheating the girlfriend..
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
Thought it was the placement for people who beat their significant others but I'm not sure.
As to the thread topic, I'm a Cancer Venus and Taurus Mars, I don't think anyone would call me the most loyal lol.
Lol well @Chuckcem told me it was the serial killey placement ... so I'm going based on his data ?
But as far as Taurus mars... I have that! And Aquarius venus and I am extremely loyal to those I care about... if I don't care about you, you will surely know. My square aspect thoUgh makes me very intense and prone to bouts of aggression since It hits my Pluto hard 😉
I like to release that in sexual spurts but when I don't... I can be a nightmare and extremely aggressive
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Cancer Mars can be a tricky, downright terrifying placement. Obviously it depends on the person how it manifests, but the emotional nature of Cancer energy is uncomfortable in Mars.
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
Aspects. I think usually mars-moon (squared/opposition).
And the stereotype is murder mars.
Although a lot of serial killers don't have that placement.
Serial killers generally don't have a guilt complex (hell, they usually don't feel anything at all), and cancer mars is a guilt complex placement.
@Chuckcem have you been giving me the wrong deeets...? Lol
According to my good frriiiiieeeend ... he says there is a common streak in killers with Cancer Mars... bur I haven't verified it's authenticity.
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(...why do you do this to me? FINE, I'm throwing science at the wall then.)
I would not go so far to say that all (or even most) serial killers have that placement, that would just be an unfair thing to say (also it would make finding serial killers A LOT easier). While I was alerted to this potential trend by someone, I did go through some research of my own to see if there was any validity and found a few things.
First, Cancer placements are throught to yield a higher rate of violence (so not just Cancer Mars alone). It's possible for a violent person to have no Cancer placements whatsoever, but take note of the number of serial killers with Cancer placements vs those without. You may notice that outside of those killers with Cancer placement, there are also those who have high Gemini placements: http://zot.net/criminalastrology.htm
Second, (because I love my Cancers), there are more studies that show Mars in Gemini, Leo, Virgo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius yield higher numbers of serial killers than Mars in Cancer (scroll down to the last chart). This figure shows that the instances for violence in Mars Cancer serial killers are below average, being lower than the aforementioned Mars placements. It should be noted that at the bottom the study is stated to be a work in progress, which means data is possibly still be collected: http://zot.net/criminalastrology.htm
Lastly, there is this next study by Jan Ruis in The Birth Charts of Male Serial Killers: Evidence of Astrological Effects According to her, Mars in Cancer ranked very high among serial killers followed by Mars Gemini and Mars Sagittarius, being beaten only by Mars in Virgo. Unlike the other study Mars in Leo and Mars in Aquarius ranked low: http://www.nvwoa.nl/pdfart/ruis/ruisen.pdf
So it's safe to safe that not all serial killers have Cancer Mars, but further research could potentially draw correlations between the placement and violent acts. I personally haven't researched this thoroughly so just take this all with a grain of salt.
Posted by Cancan26
I have none of these but I would sayCancer venus and cancer mars would be loyal even if it hurt them 😢
Isn't Cancer Mars a serial killey placement...?
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i thought more pisces suns with aqua moons
ala john wayne gacey and the nightstalker aka ramierz
being loyal is not always a good thing
leo and cancers venus mars people are loyal because of self delusion
taurus venus / mars people are loyal because they don't like wasting time and energy
Libra Venus
Mars Taurus
Posted by Effervescent
Gemini😄
LOL!!!!
Cancer Venus CLINGS like a mother fucker. I'm not sure if that's necessarily the same thing as being loyal. Having a Gemini Venus saves crab lives.
Posted by VenusAquarius
Libra VenusMars Taurus
Mars taurus is #1 of cheating things esp in men.
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must be synastry... lucky me
Posted by PiscesMarsFighter29
Cancer Venus CLINGS like a mother fucker. I'm not sure if that's necessarily the same thing as being loyal. Having a Gemini Venus saves crab lives.
Not in my experience. Cancer males with Gem Venus are good players. I still love' em.
Now, a Gemini male with Venus in Cancer is a gem.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
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Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Posted by PiscesMarsFighter29
Cancer Venus CLINGS like a mother fucker. I'm not sure if that's necessarily the same thing as being loyal. Having a Gemini Venus saves crab lives.Now, a Gemini male with Venus in Cancer is a gem.
What did u mean by gem? The venus did not change anything ? ?
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You don't love Gemini men?
I find them exotic... the Gemini w/Venus in Cancer is a delicacy... a rare and precious experience.
But hey, I'm Gemini dominant... #1 sign... Moon, Mars, and Saturn. Synastry strikes again.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
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Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyalty
Posted by SofiaV87
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyaltyLol Somehow that sounds kind of sinister to me
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How come sinister ? Lol
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
So it's all about saturn synastry of venus and mars?
If its bad then the peraon will be a cheater? If its good then the person will be a faithful?
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It's not just for synastry and Venus mars.
It applies to Natal chart and other planets aswell.
Posted by SofiaV87
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyaltyLol Somehow that sounds kind of sinister to me
How come sinister ? Lol
I guess because they can't be your placements, I pictured an ex that wouldn't take no for an answer.
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Yea they don't like the word no , they want the same loyalty given to them that they give to u
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
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Then you have a wild or more freely Venus and mars.
But it's not just venus and mars, the worst is Saturn hard aspect moon imo.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
Then you have a wild or more freely Venus and mars.
But it's not just venus and mars, the worst is Saturn hard aspect moon imo.
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Okay, so in the event that saturn doesn't have an aspect with those two then people shouldn't be concerned with saturn right?
I haven't looked at saturn in hard aspects so I guess that's on my list of things to do now lol.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
Then you have a wild or more freely Venus and mars.
But it's not just venus and mars, the worst is Saturn hard aspect moon imo.
Okay, so in the event that saturn doesn't have an aspect with those two then people shouldn't be concerned with saturn right?
I haven't looked at saturn in hard aspects so I guess that's on my list of things to do now lol.
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Saturn is underrated. Other name for Saturn is Necessary Evil ☺
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
Then you have a wild or more freely Venus and mars.
But it's not just venus and mars, the worst is Saturn hard aspect moon imo.
Okay, so in the event that saturn doesn't have an aspect with those two then people shouldn't be concerned with saturn right?
I haven't looked at saturn in hard aspects so I guess that's on my list of things to do now lol.
Saturn is underrated. Other name for Saturn is Necessary Evil ☺
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Is Saturn a heavy hitter in your chart? You seem well versed in it.
Posted by SofiaV87
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyalty
I also have venus leo but cap mars. Kind of agree! Leo venus dedication + Earth mars grounded and persistent love = neverending love/ obsession
Oh and in my case add a clingy cancer sun to it..
My boy Aries venus, Taurus mars-considers himself extremely loyal in relationships and can agree its what I see. I'd say Im also very loyal Libra Venus Virgo Mars.
Posted by PiscesMarsFighter29
Cancer Venus CLINGS like a mother fucker. I'm not sure if that's necessarily the same thing as being loyal. Having a Gemini Venus saves crab lives.Now, a Gemini male with Venus in Cancer is a gem.
What did u mean by gem? The venus did not change anything ? ?
You don't love Gemini men?
I find them exotic... the Gemini w/Venus in Cancer is a delicacy... a rare and precious experience.
I love them, I'm in love with one...but he is taurus venus not cancer.
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Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
Okay, so what then when saturn isn't aspecting venus or mars?
Then you have a wild or more freely Venus and mars.
But it's not just venus and mars, the worst is Saturn hard aspect moon imo.
Okay, so in the event that saturn doesn't have an aspect with those two then people shouldn't be concerned with saturn right?
I haven't looked at saturn in hard aspects so I guess that's on my list of things to do now lol.
Saturn is underrated. Other name for Saturn is Necessary Evil ☺
Is Saturn a heavy hitter in your chart? You seem well versed in it.
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Hahaha no actually I hate saturn. Perhaps it's caused my ruler chart freedom Uranus. Saturn or cap is only fourth dominant in my chart.
I have saturn conjunct Pluto. It puts the bad side of Pluto in check. However it also limited the power and good abilites of pluto.
Posted by SofiaV87
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyalty
Yes, I've been with that combo... a Leo Sun.
Posted by SofiaV87
Leo Venus with Taurus mars = neverending loyaltyLol Somehow that sounds kind of sinister to me
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Yes, sinister. But, loyal all the same. Sinister... not stalkerish but sexual... appetite is fierce and creepy. I liked though. Sweet lonely appetite looking for a match... acceptance.
Posted by AerialView
Loyalty is what and where your Saturn is.How so?
Venus would always love anything they love and Mars would always do anything they like to do.
It is Saturn who can restrict and discipline other planets (soft aspect).
Hard aspect would make saturn too restricted even instilled fear that caused other planets not properly function.
So it's all about saturn synastry of venus and mars?
If its bad then the peraon will be a cheater? If its good then the person will be a faithful?
It's not just for synastry and Venus mars.
It applies to Natal chart and other planets aswell.
Can you give me example please ??
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In synastry.
My Saturn is in Scorpio, it conjunct my wife's sun and moon. Let say I managed to make her less scorpionic lol she has scorp stellium.
In natal i've explained it in the post above about my saturn conjunct Pluto.
I also have saturn square mercury (which I hate it). Sometimes I cannot say what's on my mind, particularly ideas.
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