Lonliness

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by Karima27 on Friday, September 8, 2006 and has 47 replies.

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@Karima27
19 Years500+ PostsScorpio
Good Morning Guys πŸ™‚

I have a question. Do you guys think Scorps are prone to being more lonely than any other zodiac sign? I mean I am a Scorp myself so I know how our inner workings are. What do you guys think makes us strive in relationships or fail the most?
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@jen672633
20 YearsScorpio
I think we're completely paradoxical when it comes to relationships, even relationships with ourselves...our determination, stubborness and drive are our main strengths, and our greatest downfalls. I guess the fact that we're so frequently our own worst enemy in personal relationships could lead to a sort of lonliness.
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@scorpio_wreck
20 Years500+ PostsScorpio
relationships will always be a difficult thing for people who have ambition. coupled with scorp's intensity, devotion, obsessive-compulsive all-or-nothing/all-consuming desire, there could be a few problems. but nothing that we can't handle πŸ™‚
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"relationships will always be a difficult thing for people who have ambition. coupled with scorp's intensity, devotion, obsessive-compulsive all-or-nothing/all-consuming desire, there could be a few problems. but nothing that we can't handle"

Goodness, I just find that so F&*#IN SExxxxxY!!!!!
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"relationships will always be a difficult thing for people who have ambition."

That's because we are Mars ruled, Ariens also have problems in relationships, I've heard.:/
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@leoSCORPIOrising
19 Years
Lonliness happends when you need to step back from your life and assses where your heart and your head and soul is at. Time flies by so quickly these dayz that we don't think about what we really need, scorp people can give so much love out that it almost feels that they don't get the same in return.. but they are loved just the same even when they aren't told by thier loved ones... sometimes it's secrets that will cause them to slip into quietness and solitude, wondering if they've done or doing the right thing. One must remain independant enough to experience life without some else constantly by thier side. one thong is for sure..if you love a scorpio person..show them in many differnt tangible wayz..... even if you have to cry in front of them
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@shortyrock
20 Years
Do most of you think most of a Scorp's loneliness stems from not feeling loved enough by others? For me, at times, its hard to be expressive with my feelings but I think I show it enough....at times I get the feeling that the Scorp in my life questions my feelings for him, and sometimes I feel that he has a wall built because of this.
I try to show him that I care for him as best I can, even by voicing it, but I don't know if it's enough.
What other way(s) can I show it?
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@leoSCORPIOrising
19 Years
well mention a thing or a situation that you guys shared in the past..then use that little bit to verbally reflect on it, and add a heart at the end of the sentence..his silence will still prove that he's hanging on the the memory.. right now thought he planets will keep scorpions male and female a little quiet for a bit, but they're experienceing quite volitile emotions right now
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@shortyrock
20 Years
Thx for the advice, LSR! I will try it. πŸ™‚

"right now thought he planets will keep scorpions male and female a little quiet for a bit, but they're experienceing quite volitile emotions right now..."

Is this because the emotions are too intense at the present?
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@juwanapla
20 Years1,000+ Posts
I know when things get extremely intense in my life (or head), I feel like there is NOBOBDY out there that can understand. So I hide out (or supress my emotions and feelings) until I can work things out for myself.

Being me is intensely lonely at times!
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@leoSCORPIOrising
19 Years
yeah, its a solar eclise and mars is in libra.. make sure your heart is his home when he returns, the moon also needs to wane a bit.. be patient..and keep yourself busy making money so when it's time to go out with eachother yo'll have some..

juwanapla..what sign are you..chinese and regular
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@CreepyPants
20 Years5,000+ Posts
i agree with sb. capricorn at least rivals scorpio in the loneliness dept. both of our ruling planets cast an intimidating shadow in astrology that ends up secluding us, the 'inhabitants'.

shortyrock, be deep with the guy. get creative in your expressions of what your feeling, and pay attention to the way your feelings are changing or effecting you and share that with him as a sweet morsel of loving feeling that he can be happy about 'causing' or being a major part of. nothing gets through more than the truth, especially when its coming from new depths in your heart... if you feel it there, then take him there with you and share the enjoyment.

πŸ™‚
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@Karima27
19 Years500+ PostsScorpio
SB did i hit a sore spot with my question or something? I just asked a question. I am a Scorpio so my question was for Scorpio's. I can't ask about another sign because i don't know about them. It seems as though we are the only ones with real relationship problems so THAT is why it is posted here on the Scorpio Board so I am sorry if i didn't think to take into consideration the feelings of other zodiac signs.

Sheesh.
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"shortyrock, be deep with the guy. get creative in your expressions of what your feeling, and pay attention to the way your feelings are changing or effecting you and share that with him as a sweet morsel of loving feeling that he can be happy about 'causing' or being a major part of. nothing gets through more than the truth, especially when its coming from new depths in your heart... if you feel it there, then take him there with you and share the enjoyment."

Thank you, CP! That really spoke to me....because that's exactly how I've been feeling as of late. We recently went through a rough patch, and although it was hard at the time, it made me realize how deep my feelings for him were. I promised myself that I would tell him exactly how I felt for him the following time I saw him; but I froze!!! I think he understood what I was feeling, but I got upset at myself because I couldn't express what I was feeling....I was too emotional and it's almost like I wanted to put him in my place or somehow have him telepathically see inside of me so he can see how much I care for him. Being a Capricorn, sometimes it's hard being so unexpressive., it doesn't come easy..its frustrating! When I'm by myself and I think of how much I care for him, I get sooo emotional...but yet I can't tell him when I'm right in front of him!!!
I know he can share in the depths that I feel, I just have to work up the nerve to take him there... πŸ™‚
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"I know when things get extremely intense in my life (or head), I feel like there is NOBOBDY out there that can understand. So I hide out (or supress my emotions and feelings) until I can work things out for myself."

I can understand and relate to this.
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@CreepyPants
20 Years5,000+ Posts
"When I'm by myself and I think of how much I care for him, I get sooo emotional...but yet I can't tell him when I'm right in front of him!!!"


shortyrock... i know EXACTLY how you feel! 'freezing' is the word!
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"yeah, its a solar eclise and mars is in libra.. make sure your heart is his home when he returns, the moon also needs to wane a bit.. be patient..and keep yourself busy making money so when it's time to go out with eachother yo'll have some.."

LSR, thanks!!! I've noticed a distance since Wednesday...
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"shortyrock... i know EXACTLY how you feel! 'freezing' is the word!"

LOL, CP!!! I guess it's universal for us Caps, huh!? I hate that part about me! Ugh! It's almost like I choke when I want to tell someone how I feel for them...I think it's easier for me w/ my friends, but when it comes to a partner - it can be difficult at first.
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@VIRGOEXALTED
20 Years1,000+ PostsVirgo
Well, I'd like to think that the most lonely prone sign of the zodiac is well, me; Virgo. I have troubles with understanding human nature, and am sometimes at odds with it; I usually feel lonely all the time, but I can usually enjoy it; but ONLY PAINFULLY SO when I am WITH PEOPLE....It's a feeling that is strange even to myself, but it's becuase I don't relate well to others, I can sympathize, but in the end, don't get my feelings empathized with even when I voice them loudly, and clearly; I guess I'm a little eccentric, but we are called the 'eternal loners' of the zodiac; maybe we love the freedom, but maybe we hate it...I like it only if it serves a productive, and positive function for me.
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@CreepyPants
20 Years5,000+ Posts
"LOL, CP!!! I guess it's universal for us Caps, huh!? I hate that part about me! Ugh! It's almost like I choke when I want to tell someone how I feel for them...I think it's easier for me w/ my friends, but when it comes to a partner - it can be difficult at first."

meh... i dunno. i wasnt like this with my ex-boyfriend, not even initially. and i dont take that as a bad sign for this relationship. in fact, i take it as a good sign, because it doesnt feel bad, it feels great. so great that it's scary, but what a good thriller! πŸ˜›
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"And that someone can't merely say yes without comparing. Because when you say most that entitles comparision."

She was asking for peoples opinions, not for the "absolute truth."(tm)
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"so we often stand alone and you're more prone to be lonely when you're alone with all those unexpressed feelings inside it can be tiring and lead to feel misunderstood."

I agree-being alone may cause lonliness.πŸ˜›
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
No need to get all pissy, I was just trying to explain.

"Do you guys think Scorps are prone to being more lonely than any other zodiac sign?"

It looks pretty straightforward.
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"It still asks for a comparision. And I stated my opinion. Which Karima had a problem with. Not me. "

So? She asked if we think we are more prone to lonliness, that's the point.

"And I am not pissy Yama. Although you seem to be quite the bit so."

Logic isn't your thing, huh?
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"You're just good at twisting words out of context. that doesn't make you logical just a good manipulator."

Obviously, I don't agree with you, so my points must be a result of manipulation, and not actual logic.*rolls eyes*

"When you say she asked you to think what it really means is that somewhere in your brain you will have to make a comparision. Comparison relies on thought. But here is the thing. How would you know that you really are lonelier than the others when you don't know what you are comparing yourself with."

You won't-you can't really know anything, so? I think the point was to see if we think we're lonlier than other signs.

"Its simple logic. But then that was never your forte."

Never, lol, for how long have we exchanged occasional posts on the interent?
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@Tiamat
21 Years1,000+ PostsScorpio
I think we're too moody for that.We're more likely not to be completely loney unless we chose to be and push people away for that to happen.Because of all the high expectations on an emotional level we require,the people that matter tend to be dependable(also very much family peoples I noticed) so its by choice that we close off ourselves.And astrology wise,yeah,capricorns are supposed to be the solitude sign and would be the lonelier sign.Scorps are just are more likely to have fewer friends cause they expect too much,too fast if your looking at it superficially(number of friends or whatever)
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"When you think you make a comparision with what you have with you. Since you don't have anything to compare with then the question is flawed or needs to be thought over."

Yes we do, we interact with other signs, so we do know something about them, we don't know them objectively, but we don't know anything objectively.

"When you feel you don't need to make a comparison. Its your individual feeling that would count."

Huh? So you think feelings have no foundation in facts at all?

"And since you said so yourself that you won't know, that means any comparison can't be made without that knowledge. "

Nothing can be known objectively/completely, does that mean that we should give up on thoughts all together?


p.s.I still want to know how long have you known me.
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@Yama
20 Years5,000+ PostsScorpio
"Yama and karima seem to be the one with the problems."

What makes you think I have problems? You seem have a habit of making wrong assumptions about me.

"Maybe Yama gets periods too."

?
Guys don't get periods...
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@stardance
20 Years500+ Posts
*poor sb, everyone else has such problems, it's got to be rough for her to be the only one that is normal and has all the answers, specially when no one recognizes it✨


Hahahahaaa....
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@juwanapla
20 Years1,000+ Posts
I was stating an opinion ?Yama and karima seem to be the one with the problems. Maybe Yama gets periods too. Hey who Knows? Or maybe you should take it JP. Might help you since you never bother to read or think before you write something anyway.

Your right sb. Taking a Midol might help me read and think before I write something! Why didn't I think of that in high school? Midol will help my reading and thinking skills! Fucking fantastic idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad your always here to help!

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@stardance
20 Years500+ Posts
"Question is: How would you knowβ€” You're not them, and they aren't you. Technically as a Capricorn being ALONE is a choice and might actually make me FEEL lonely, but I choose not to. But sometimes I feel lonely too despite the choice. How would you know whether its more or less than others. I sure feel that Caps are the loneliest sign in the Zodiac because of Saturn's influence. But I am open to the fact that it might be an individual choice or circumstances. "


oH YEAH, that makes perfect sense. I'm just glad I'm not one of "THEM" cause that's my individual choice and I'm sticking to it... LOL
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"meh... i dunno. i wasnt like this with my ex-boyfriend, not even initially. and i dont take that as a bad sign for this relationship. in fact, i take it as a good sign, because it doesnt feel bad, it feels great. so great that it's scary, but what a good thriller!"

Can agree with you there,CP...what a rush! πŸ™‚
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@shortyrock
20 Years
"i think scorps,caps n virgoes r the most misunderstood signs of the zodiac...
n i think thats the main cause behind the loneliness..."

YUP, YUP!!!!!!
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@ecstasy
19 Years
i think that because of the intensity that scorpios bring to the table...we tend to be sink or swim...not to much middle ground
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@missmorals
20 Years10,000+ Posts
LOL @ Bling...hahahah..I love that!..

Caps have this annoying habit of breaking everything down to miniscule pieces to justify their answer..sooo annoying...just go with a "blink" decision. Too much information pollutes the minds ability to make a quick decision.