@LilliLou
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First, try to recognize that you, in fact, are being mirrored. Second, if you love the person, try to understand that they are not doing this to hurt you. Water signs are sensitive and in many ways very shy when you get to our core. If you can really examine the mirror from that context, you will find that the mirror is really about helping you to understand how they feel. Like really feel.
Well, I think this is tricky. Who's to say they are actually mirroring you? When is it "mirroring" vs the person just demonstrating a negative trait? This is why I have a problem with the while idea of m mirroring.
I have no problem owning my behaviour in the whole me-you-me-you dance, but I won't own yours. This is why self reflection is key.
I agree with the intentions, so some extent when again, it is not involving poor behaviour vs. mirroring.
First, try to recognize that you, in fact, are being mirrored. Second, if you love the person, try to understand that they are not doing this to hurt you. Water signs are sensitive and in many ways very shy when you get to our core. If you can really examine the mirror from that context, you will find that the mirror is really about helping you to understand how they feel. Like really feel.
Well, I think this is tricky. Who's to say they are actually mirroring you? When is it "mirroring" vs the person just demonstrating a negative trait? This is why I have a problem with the while idea of m mirroring.
I have no problem owning my behaviour in the whole me-you-me-you dance, but I won't own yours. This is why self reflection is key.
I agree with the intentions, so some extent when again, it is not involving poor behaviour vs. mirroring.
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Thats what I mean... Where does it end? Infinity Conundrum!
Am I being distant and snotty, or is he?
Its fine for good emotions... sparking off one another is awesome, but what about the bad ones??
*SCORP EMO HEADACHE* in 3, 2, 1...
Most signs will tell you how they feel. "This made me feel...so on and so forth..." Water signs will try to get you to feel how they feel. If you are an intuitive, sensitive sort you should take that in and reflect.
Hmmm, yes....but, no?(for me anyway). I think ^^^this is where water signs get stuck (at least in terms of growth and relating to other people in the most effective way). I get the whole "water signs will try to get you to feel how they feel" approach. I've done/still do it. The problem with this approach is the fact that other signs do not respond well to this or even understand it. We see it all over the boards, even between water signs (e.g. play the mirror game). One would think that we could just sense/feel our partner's needs/hurt/concerns, get a clue and respond accordingly. Yet, we also have trouble in this area. True, not as much as with other signs, but we still have issue with it. So clearly, it is not an effective approach.
Our ability to sense another person's emotions and our sensitivity make us great givers/nurturers/healers/lovers, but this is our gift. I don't think it is our place to "force" another person to be like us (aka "get you to [intuitively] feel how they feel"). This is akin to expecting a deaf person to communicate through speech because I communicate this way. Wouldn't it be better received if I try to communicate to you the way you understand best? I think the fact that we have such a negative reaction when another water sign tries to passively make us feel that they are upset (if we haven't picked up on it) say something. So why continue the cycle by also doing it?
Water signs need to learn to feel something, own it and fully express their needs and desires without imposing these emotions on another person, even if it means they will not be fully understood by another. It helps us grow.
I think what I am saying is, as water signs we can become a little to reliant on our intuitive nature when it comes to communicating and obtaining our needs. It is a strength meant to help us connect and relate to others better, not a means of imposing our needs on others--even fellow water signs.
Here is a little giggle for you; the anally retentive aqua in my office (cap moon methinks!?! 😛) has signed himself up for a police bulletin/ email broadcast. I live in Chch, NZ- nothing exciting ever happens! The big announcement this morning was that a bridge was closed due to a car accident... Whoa!!!
This did make me giggle.
How is it people know other people's chart specs? I can barely remember my own without looking it up constantly.
I'm just being a smarty-pants about the moon... I could astrotheme, but can't really be bothered! He is a grumpy boring old bear so I was being cheeky about caps!
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LOL. You do realize I won't be able to read any of your post without picturing you sticking out your tongue at the end of each statement.
Cute avi KiwiFruit.
Posted by LilliLou
I like that waters 'get' the emotion and don't hide from it. They get down and dirty, wallow & roll in the emotional mudpit.
But it can be pretty intense. Crabs especially- they take the emotion and crystallize it, refract and then shatter it!Um, yeah, I don't know about that.
At the risk of sounding sexist, that's kind of a female thing to say/think.
Male water Sun signs handle emotions in a different way to women.
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+1 I have to agree.
Correction, I have found Watery males will do this once they feel safe with you. It's like breaking into Fort Knox though.
Most signs will tell you how they feel. "This made me feel...so on and so forth..." Water signs will try to get you to feel how they feel. If you are an intuitive, sensitive sort you should take that in and reflect.
Hmmm, yes....but, no?(for me anyway). I think ^^^this is where water signs get stuck (at least in terms of growth and relating to other people in the most effective way). I get the whole "water signs will try to get you to feel how they feel" approach. I've done/still do it. The problem with this approach is the fact that other signs do not respond well to this or even understand it. We see it all over the boards, even between water signs (e.g. play the mirror game). One would think that we could just sense/feel our partner's needs/hurt/concerns, get a clue and respond accordingly. Yet, we also have trouble in this area. True, not as much as with other signs, but we still have issue with it. So clearly, it is not an effective approach.
Our ability to sense another person's emotions and our sensitivity make us great givers/nurturers/healers/lovers, but this is our gift. I don't think it is our place to "force" another person to be like us (aka "get you to [intuitively] feel how they feel"). This is akin to expecting a deaf person to communicate through speech because I communicate this way. Wouldn't it be better received if I try to communicate to you the way you understand best? I think the fact that we have such a negative reaction when another water sign tries to passively make us feel that they are upset (if we haven't picked up on it) say something. So why continue the cycle by also doing it?
Water signs need to learn to feel something, own it and fully express their needs and desires without imposing these emotions on another person, even if it means they will not be fully understood by another. It helps us grow.
I think what I am saying is, as water signs we can become a little to reliant on our intuitive nature when it comes to communicating and obtaining our needs. It is a strength meant to help us connect and relate to others better, not a means of imposing our needs on others--even fellow water signs.
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Much to like here, and learn from PR's wisdom!
I have a little short circuit
First, try to recognize that you, in fact, are being mirrored. Second, if you love the person, try to understand that they are not doing this to hurt you. Water signs are sensitive and in many ways very shy when you get to our core. If you can really examine the mirror from that context, you will find that the mirror is really about helping you to understand how they feel. Like really feel.
Well, I think this is tricky. Who's to say they are actually mirroring you? When is it "mirroring" vs the person just demonstrating a negative trait? This is why I have a problem with the while idea of m mirroring.
I have no problem owning my behaviour in the whole me-you-me-you dance, but I won't own yours. This is why self reflection is key.
I agree with the intentions, to some extent, when again it is not involving poor behaviour vs. mirroring.
Thats what I mean... Where does it end? Infinity Conundrum!
Am I being distant and snotty, or is he?
Its fine for good emotions... sparking off one another is awesome, but what about the bad ones??
*SCORP EMO HEADACHE* in 3, 2, 1...click to expand
Yes, been there *rub temples*, done that. I guess the important thing is not so much who started this, but when you recognize that you are doing it (if you are), taking the lead and just stop doing it and address it.
I am good in some areas, suck royally in other, but all based on my relationship with the person and my areas of growth.
Oh man! Got cut off... was saying...
I have a little short circuit when people don't immediately jump into my emo puddle and splash about. Am still learning to let them be, and yes- OWN - my own emotions in a standalone fashion... If that makes sense??
I'm know how super pushy I am/ can be, and to dial that down a little and give people breathing room.
^^ But yes totally to IS... Wummenz be teh coad breahcarz... Men know they 'feel' but when they try to express I think that is when it gets hard.
^^^ And PR, massive compliments- I always find your posts are spot on! Illuminating, concise and insightful! (Promise I'm not poking my tongue out at you!!!😄)
I recently (like 2 days ago type of "recently") that men do communicate their feelings pretty often. It just looks very different.
^^^ And PR, massive compliments- I always find your posts are spot on! Illuminating, concise and insightful! (Promise I'm not poking my tongue out at you!!!😄)
Thanks Lilli. I don't really know what to do with compliments, so I try as best as I can to ignore them without being rude (e.g. joke or deflect) if that makes any sense. It's a flaw, but it's me.
Posted by PhoenixRising
I recently (like 2 days ago type of "recently") that men do communicate their feelings pretty often. It just looks very different.
Ooo.... do tell us more... (or at least moi!)
^^^ And PR, massive compliments- I always find your posts are spot on! Illuminating, concise and insightful! (Promise I'm not poking my tongue out at you!!!😄)
Thanks Lilli. I don't really know what to do with compliments, so I try as best as I can to ignore them without being rude (e.g. joke or deflect) if that makes any sense. It's a flaw, but it's me.
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It's all good- completely understand it, I used to get so tongue tied I appeared rude! I'm getting better at accepting them now-a-days though I just go with a simple 'ta' most of the time... Too simplistic maybe, but I think it works for most situations??!
Tell us more about decoding the male of the species... 😛
Posted by PhoenixRising
I recently (like 2 days ago type of "recently") that men do communicate their feelings pretty often. It just looks very different.Ooo.... do tell us more... (or at least moi!)
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Haha. I thought I just did.
Well, I think a man would be able to respond to this better. I haven't been able to decode them, I just look for different things now. I've come to realize it's in their actions, their reactions to what you say, the questions they ask you, the things they remember about you (excluding those with really solid memories), the effort they put forth to make you feel cared for, safe, listened to and understood. It's often quite subtle, but stays with you for days....When you see it and bring it to light, they simply smile and give you even more because you've shown you've noticed and appreciate it.
I'm sure I've made that a clear as mud.
I have to laugh, because I come to a better understanding of things in the funniest way. My mind just jumps all over the place and pieces things together in the weirdest way. I've been frustrated for month with Leo Merc and it was the combination of a few threads and finally a conversation about a d*mn pictogram with my niece that made me think---you're looking at this through your own ( very female)eyes.
A man may not say "I think about you often" like a woman will, but if he calls you "just to hear your voice" or "say hi" or to share something silly that has happened, I think it's fair to say you're on his mind too.
Gosh darnit PR... I was hoping that you'd have a fool proof ABC, this still means I have to interpret the bloody buggers! (now where are the men at?)
"How I show I love a woman"
Neuro- I caught you a fish, and you can have half of my blood orange custard filled donut
Moon- I made you a mix tape — —??
EEE- I makey teh scribblehs funneh and all will be lulz
BUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
^^^If you're stuck on having to "hear" these words, you may be disappointed for much of the relationship.
Do I like it? No. Not at all. I can express my feelings, so why the hell can't you?! Well, because he's not me. Very similar to what was written above. Not imposing your approach on another person. I have to remind myself of this often. Daily ().
What I did find out is when I stopped trying to push what I wanted (e.g. him communicating his feelings), and accepted his effort the verbal communication came freely. I am pretty direct when it comes to addressing things and I simply put what I saw out there; basically I acknowledged the effort he was making and expressed that I understood that this was his way of telling me he did care. He appreciated hearing this very much and his willingness to communicate his feelings came after in time (to my surprise). I say to my surprise, because at that point I was more than willing to just accept this man doesn't share like I do.
I think everyone just wants to be appreciated and accepted as they are. Once they are, they are more open to the idea of adjusting to meet your needs.
Posted by PhoenixRising
^^^If you're stuck on having to "hear" these words, you may be disappointed for much of the relationship.Do I like it? No. Not at all. I can express my feelings, so why the hell can't you?! Well, because he's not me. Very similar to what was written above. Not imposing your approach on another person. I have to remind myself of this often. Daily ().
What I did find out is when I stopped trying to push what I wanted (e.g. him communicating his feelings), and accepted his effort the verbal communication came freely. I am pretty direct when it comes to addressing things and I simply put what I saw out there; basically I acknowledged the effort he was making and expressed that I understood that this was his way of telling me he did care. He appreciated hearing this very much and his willingness to communicate his feelings came after in time (to my surprise). I say to my surprise, because at that point I was more than willing to just accept this man doesn't share like I do.
I think everyone just wants to be appreciated and accepted as they are. Once they are, they are more open to the idea of adjusting to meet your needs.
Indeed lady *nods*
Posted by LilliLou
Gosh darnit PR... I was hoping that you'd have a fool proof ABC, this still means I have to interpret the bloody buggers! (now where are the men at?)"How I show I love a woman"
Neuro- I caught you a fish, and you can have half of my blood orange custard filled donut
Moon- I made you a mix tape — —??
EEE- I makey teh scribblehs funneh and all will be lulzBUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Haha, sorry. My input is based on observation and limited brief splash of "pay attention" cold water. I'm not even sure our watery (and cuspy) men would be able to tell us with any certainty that a man doing A means B. It's unique to the man, just like a fish would be unique to Rabbit or a mix tape to MoonMan or a Monkey to 3E.
As well, wouldn't those descriptions you posted be exactly what I am referring to? Their actions reflect their emotions?
BUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Well, I don't make "reading between" the lines very easy because my analogies and experience often bleed into each other giving the impression I am talking about something when I am not. Going well? Sure, but not in the way you probably think or mean. We've definitely come to a place were we better understand each other, but nothing more. We're still dancing in circles.
Posted by Rabbit
What's the question?
Where do you get those cool avis?
Oh yes, and KiwiFruit wanted to know so stuff about your kind.
I just wanted to be number 2,000.
Dammit! Rabbit stole my shine.......
I'll aim for 3,000.
Posted by LilliLou
Gosh darnit PR... I was hoping that you'd have a fool proof ABC, this still means I have to interpret the bloody buggers! (now where are the men at?)"How I show I love a woman"
Neuro- I caught you a fish, and you can have half of my blood orange custard filled donut
Moon- I made you a mix tape — —??
EEE- I makey teh scribblehs funneh and all will be lulzBUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Haha, sorry. My input is based on observation and limited brief splash of "pay attention" cold water. I'm not even sure our watery (and cuspy) men would be able to tell us with any certainty that a man doing A means B. It's unique to the man, just like a fish would be unique to Rabbit or a mix tape to MoonMan or a Monkey to 3E.
As well, wouldn't those descriptions you posted be exactly what I am referring to? Their actions reflect their emotions?
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Hehe^^ Yup... I was sneaking around channeling my inner man and thought of the actual/ physical ways the men folk would express their ——— shush! don't tell them!!!
Posted by Rabbit
What's the question?Where do you get those cool avis?
Oh yes, and KiwiFruit wanted to know so stuff about your kind.
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And I like your cute kitty AVI PR!!!
Can we change your name to Strawberry please? Then you, me and pineapples can all be fruit salad...
sorry! TOOO MUCH SUGARRR!!!
Posted by Rabbit
What's the question?Where do you get those cool avis?
Oh yes, and KiwiFruit wanted to know so stuff about your kind.
And I like your cute kitty AVI PR!!!
Can we change your name to Strawberry please? Then you, me and pineapples can all be fruit salad...
sorry! TOOO MUCH SUGARRR!!!
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Lol. I'll take your suggestion under consideration......I'd say I'm more like a mango or papaya, but strawberry may work.
Posted by PhoenixRising
Dammit! Rabbit stole my shine.......I'll aim for 3,000.
Remember...the OP counts as a "reply", so technically, you're 2000.
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Posted by Rabbit
Who is going to be the marshmallows and the whipped cream to mix in?
Marshmallows?
Doesn't that work in jello or something?
Posted by Rabbit
Who is going to be the marshmallows and the whipped cream to mix in?Marshmallows?
Doesn't that work in jello or something?
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Ooh like ambrosia... Mum used to make that when we were kiddies
Rabbit- you can join our fruit salad...
We have vacancies for coconut & bananas 😛
Posted by Rabbit
Cut up fruit, coconut, marshmallows, and whipped cream?Am I the only person who's eaten that before?
Uh, yeah.
Sorted!!!
Okay, so PR can be the Papaya (or melons did you say?? (??Y??) hehe)
Melly can be our little strawberry...
And EEE... well he's a bit banana's anyway 😉
Also, I've never been a fan of marshmallows, so..... The texture turns my stomach. It's the same with sushi and certain types of sea food (e.g. shrimp, squid----*hold down vomit*).
Posted by Rabbit
Cut up fruit, coconut, marshmallows, and whipped cream?Am I the only person who's eaten that before?
Uh, yeah.
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No! I posted a pic... we call it Ambrosia Salad here- Fruit, cream, yogurt and marshmellows!!! Its delish
Posted by Rabbit
Cut up fruit, coconut, marshmallows, and whipped cream?Am I the only person who's eaten that before?
Uh, yeah.
Lemme guess...you never had that pale green pistachio salad stuff either?
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I've never even heard of that before. Pistachio, yes. As a salad, no.
What's your favourite dish?
BUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Well, I don't make "reading between" the lines very easy because my analogies and experience often bleed into each other giving the impression I am talking about something when I am not. Going well? Sure, but not in the way you probably think or mean. We've definitely come to a place were we better understand each other, but nothing more. We're still dancing in circles.
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Is he a Leo sun too...
Posted by LilliLou
Sorted!!!Okay, so PR can be the Papaya (or melons did you say?? (??Y??) hehe)
Melly can be our little strawberry...
And EEE... well he's a bit banana's anyway 😉
Hehe. I like mango better. What about Elle? Passion fruit maybe? It's the eyes......
Elle is a totally a passionfruit!!!
Moon would be a rock melon (te he hee!)
Who else did I miss??
I have grapes, orange, and watermelon to assign. Guava, payaya, lychee...
BUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Well, I don't make "reading between" the lines very easy because my analogies and experience often bleed into each other giving the impression I am talking about something when I am not. Going well? Sure, but not in the way you probably think or mean. We've definitely come to a place were we better understand each other, but nothing more. We're still dancing in circles.
Is he a Leo sun too...
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Posted by Rabbit
Pistachio salad is basically marshmallows mixed with cool whip, pistachio pudding, and pistachios.Weirdest. Dessert. Ever.
You're not kidding.
BUT; all that asides, sounds like it is going well with the Merc Leo! He sounds pretty sweet- reading between the lines!
Well, I don't make "reading between" the lines very easy because my analogies and experience often bleed into each other giving the impression I am talking about something when I am not. Going well? Sure, but not in the way you probably think or mean. We've definitely come to a place were we better understand each other, but nothing more. We're still dancing in circles.
Is he a Leo sun too...
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Bahaha... game, set & match!
Posted by Rabbit
Pistachio salad is basically marshmallows mixed with cool whip, pistachio pudding, and pistachios.Weirdest. Dessert. Ever.
You're not kidding.
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Ewww...
Posted by LilliLou
^^hmmm... what you be hiding up in there PR??^^
p.s. I am a big fan of the Leo-Scorp connection; just trying to find the right Leo 😉
Lol at that gif *bookmark*. So do I. However, I wasn't confirming or denying his Sun sign. Simply posting a picture
Clearly I've been sharing too much. I'll be shutting up now....
If it's the wrong day and/or the wrong time, I simply don't respond well to people losing their sh*t....I don't even know what that was in that thread....smh.
I need to go paint before I say something I shouldn't. Enjoy your day Fruit Squad.
Posted by IrresistableScorp
You are all a bunch of fruits.
Today I *need* to staple someones ear to the desk... Grrrr!
Why does life feel the need to constantly teach you the same lesson over and over again. Ok, I don't get it, or I am doing something wrong... BUT if that is the case find another way to teach me; flow chart, venn diagram, freaking sock puppets?! Bashing me over the head with it is clearly not working.
Mutter, mutter, mutter...
Rabbit; something silly, weird or completely nuts to cheer me up/ calm me down??!
Rabbit- that sounds amazing!!!
I'm actually drooling...
I've been too mad to eat breakfast so this might just help fire up the taste buds again!
Anyone tried a dash of wine in their coffee? Just out of curiosity of course...
Posted by xMoonMan
Phoenix, always tryna be mysterious. Kinda cute.What's with all you stinger girls with Scorp mars?
Does the cosmos have a sale on Scorp mars every November...I'm sending out a mantra to find a Scorpio woman with sorp mars, I wanna find out first hand what it be all about
Ooo... seems eerily prophetic...
Epitaph; Here lies MoonMan~ he wished upon a star for a Scorpy Mars lady
😛
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Do they? Most of the male waters I know are intensely emotional- and definitely wallow when they're not getting their way! And they are great to talk to about 'how you are feeling' X... Y... Z...
One Cancer male I know is also one of those overly motivationally Hallmark card type of status update type person... You know: If you don't like your life, change it (but with extra sentiment!)
They also LOVE when you come to them for advice...