Regarding Libras and Scorps....

Okay..I've go this friend --a male Scorp who keeps on saying the most crassest, vulgar and perverted comments--real trash coming out of his mouth--he says these things jokingly but regardless, it still sounds disgusting. I (Libra) seem to be the only one in his his amazingly adoring group of friends that is put-off by these nasty verbatims he makes. I can't understand it. To make things worse--he has a huge ego (like some scorps do). No matter how gingerly you approach him on something--he defends himself with out compromising. WHAT AN marker!! I say to myself...How do you tell a friend like this that his comments have got to stop—? Oh yeah--he's got a real critical streak too.

"marker" is ***HOLE

I'm starting to really feel that deep down, I hate this guy and I want to put him where he belongs--in his place.

Ha! I just read Scorpio's horoscope for today--Monday July 7th. My Scorp friend SHOULD read this: Duncan says:

One of the best gifts we can be given is the gift of freindship. Appreciate the friends you have while you have them. Life is full of changes. (!)

Sloane, I would just distance myself from him. I wouldn't even bring it up, because an argument is likely to ensue. Male Scorpios are a lot more crass than female Scorpios, but I've known some bawdy female ones, too. Maybe...and this might sound weird...but maybe he's trying to get your attention.

God, he sounds like a loser. You know my thoughts on male scorpios right now. Put him back in his place, it sounds like nobody else is going to. Then duck for cover!

The truth is: I am more of a friend to him than he is to me. What else do you call it when I AM THE ONE e-mailing--HIM, CALLING HIM and do ever get an e-mail or phone call from him ever? NEV-ER!!! Yet, he demonstrates EVERYTIME this "what did I do?" demeanor. I'm going to have a talk with him--probably e-mail him but I need to wait a couple of days. By the way, just to make it more perfect, he's got some egotistical leo freinds that will take his side. I don't give a rat's a**.

Why the f*** do we adore and praise the guys? They get away with SO MUCH SH**!!!!!!!!!

Why are men popular? Why do we kiss their a** all the time? It's like, I wanna ask all the time to some guy--any guy in a crowd of adoring, a**-kissing friends:
WHAT THE HELL IS SO GREAT ABOUT YOU??

By the way Sweet P--you brought up a good point--yes, I noticed that there is one person in the friends cirlce of his that doesn't stand up to him. I think she may be insecure about herself and doesn't defend herself for the possibilty that he will lose interest in her.

Oh noo, this guy is scorpio allll the way--with the perversions and kinky innuendos to prove it too.. He's no Aquarius. If he was, we'd get along just fine. And you're absolutely RIGHT about stealing his attention--that would piss him off--he likes to be the center of attention ALL THE TIME! He must have some Leo in him. Yes, I think I will tell him off and call it quits--after all--he lives very far away anyway.

He's also Bi--not that it's an issue or anything but I think this might explain the perverted and gross comments about women's and men's genitals.

To all Scorps: You know..I'm sorry but..and I know I keep going on about this..it's just that every time I meet a Scorp, I wanna find things to like about them but then, there's always something about them that really rubs me the wrong way. I.E. the egos, the petty jealousies, paranoia, (Who? Oh! Are they talking about me? Are they saying sh** about me??!) the mind games, the silent treatment--one of my favorites, power plays in the office or work place, vengeance, etc, etc, etc, etc......I've met ONE Scorp that I genuinly liked--a Director--a great guy. And I like Phoenix. But that's it! I've tried--God knows I've been patients with Scorps.

Hey sloane (Scorp Guy, new name), not all Scorpios are bad. My co-worker is a Scorpio as well, and a lot of the things he says are disgusting, until I told him that what he says disgusts me. He was most likely somewhat hurt, but he's toned down the level of perversion. Unless you express that you don't like what says, he'll think everything's fine.

~Mario~

Gee Sloane, he sounds atrocious - I don't know how you put up with him. I would do what you suggested, tell him what you think, and then move on. Unless he is prepared to make an effort to respect you, then there are plenty of other guys out there you can be friends with. Sweet-P is right, he does sound like an Aquarian!

I don't know what it is about guys. I myself have the opposite problem. They are subservient around me, probably because they know i don't care about them. Ever noticed how a cat will go to the only person in the room that doesn't like it? Well, that's what guys do to me. I am quite relieved actually, i would hate to get treated like that by a guy, and in the off chance that it does happen, i usually ignore them.

Gee, goodluck, and remember, the best and only thing to preserve is your self-respect.

Thank you Sarcastic Scorp and Libra girl and others--thanks for your input--good advice. :-)

I just read an article in the New York Post today about a party that famous scorp P Diddy (Sean Puffy Combs) had at his home--he asked all the women to takes off thier clothes or get shown the door!!!
See?! Another perverted scorp!! I just keep hearing about these guys!!! It doesn't end.

Do scorps get along 'well' with libras?just curious..
it seemed to me that libs get usually offended when he or she is not trusted.. &scorp trust is a hard thing to come by.. don't think that it's anything personal..just perhaps self- preservation methods? ..I actually could be a tad off- base too..

Yes Jaya--A Scorp's trust is very hard to earn--sometimes frustratingly. Librans and Scorps CAN get along but I would have to say that in general, Libs grow tired fast of the non-communication and power plays (as well as the crass remarks) that most Scorps give.

Think Roseanne Barr (Arnold)

And my last boss. Man, the biting remarks she made..sheesh.

..i'm really surprized that he would do such a thing..*i'm shocked* i always had him pegged as a decent kind of solid guy deep down.. hmm.. i guess we pick our battles..

hm..the remarks and the power plays do wear quickly, i must admit.. but i've a really good scorp friend of nearly 12 years whom, is actually very sweet. He's so in love with love.. that it's cute..🙂 recently he told me that it meant alot to him to have such a friendship, and that he appreciates his 'true' friend.. this goes along smoothly, and it works for us.. but i'd luv to hear more experiences between scorp and libra.. as I've dated a few, and would luv to learn more about what makes it to their 'big' hearts..

..have you dated a scorp before sloan? please tell me about it if you have.. and if you haven't as yet, I'd strongly recommend it..(I found it to be a very rewarding, never a waste of time spent, and quite changing experience..on you..and perhaps, them?). Most of all, it is really comfortable, and they have a gracious accepting spirit, which takes you as you are.. a real person.. the last relationship of mine did not work out, due to too many personal differences, but I wouldn't throw in the towel on the whole thing, because it is really rewarding both spiritually and emotionally.. well, hope to hear from you..and from the reverse too..what are the pet peeves?

Hi Jaya..didn't mean to make you wait...aahhh let's see, no I have not dated a scorp. I HAVE however, lived with scorps-my brother is a classic scorp--he can be a real bastard at times--selfish--but has a wonderful sense of humour--he can be very funny. I have lived with them both during college, after college, I've worked with them (sheessh!), partied with them, drove in a car with them, had drinks with them, had serious talks with them ( I always felt that I could trust most scorps with confidential details), hung out with them for concerts, movies, general fun and so there ya go...this scorp friend of mine is trouble for though. I will not date a scorpio--I just won't. I know where it'll go.

"it seemed to me that libs get usually offended when he or she is not trusted.. &scorp trust is a hard thing to come by.. don't think that it's anything personal..just perhaps self- preservation methods?"

Preserve this! *points to kitty* LOL j/k

Nobody likes to play the fool, but we all do sometimes. Scorpio thinks they are exempt! Maybe IF they let it down just alittle bit, what they find may be what they have been looking for?

hehe.. sounds like we humans are loaded with barriers out there huh?.. lol.. but all is fair in love and war.. i think it's ok to want to protect yourself from something or
*someone* harmful.. it's just when protection turns into locking one's self in by boarded wooden planks with full arsenal of loaded guns, ammo, grenades, gas and gas masks..peering out window only sideways!! that it starts to become just a little *funky*...hahaha.. I'm guilty of it too sometimes though, so I get it, but geez... 'um..
come out come out and playyyyyy!!! sometimes.. We've gotten you cool drinks and snacks on the outside already!! ...

what?

hey sloan..just saying that balance can be good..

Hi all,

It is so true about Scorpio men.

I was 'fixed up' with my husband by a mutual friend. When I met him he was crass, loaded with shi* and very opinionated. I could not stand him. His aura was huge, right up there with his ego. When he went to the men's room I paid the check. When he came back I told him I was leaving and started for the door. He walked me to the car and asked when he could see me again. I told him straight out he was not my type and I left. I did not run into him again for over a year, although he did call and leave messages for over 3 months.
When we did ran into each other after at least one year, he was calmer, more polite, listened to what I talked about. He told me later in our relationship that he had never met a woman who knew more than he did and he was intimidated. Wow mister know it all was intimidated by little old me!!!
Anyway, that's my Scorpio/Libra story and I have a miilion more!

Take care everyone,

Linda

That is a cool story Candle Girl. 🙂

God Candle Girl..If that were me, I would of told him right there before getting into the car that I found him to be crass, opinionated and needs to grow up big time but..that's me. Since he pursued you for three months (and isn't that called hassling?) he must of REALLY wanted you.
Yep, I can see the ego problem-just like my friend on the east coast.

PS..However-I'm glad it worked out for you.

It took over a year and then some before I caved! It's hard to resist a persistant Scorpio! Those piercing eyes, those mystical looks. Wow!

Cg.. I know what you mean.. I had two very similar experiences with scorpios loves. In the first case, he pursued me relentlessly for some months before I was
powerless to resist him anymore, and caved in..we ended up lasting over 3 and a 1/2 years. In the second case, I'd met him only once before at his house through a friend. We spent the entire night talking with each other in his living room seperately from everyone else at his own social gathering.. I quite enjoyed his company.. but he did not see me again for another year, and was still interested and still pursued one year later.. so we ended up dating for a while. hm.. we tried, but this one did not last very long, and I guess I did end up needing to relieve myself from it after awhile.. but he
was a special case.. (Too much suspiscion, and random stuff with his personal case). anyhoo..i'm tired, and i'm not sure what i'm saying anymore.. I'll write again later on..

Well to be honest, I don't think we would have lasted if we both weren't furiously independant and self sufficient financially. I need to maintain my 'self' and Scorpio's tend to overpower weak people. Through no fault of their own, they have huge personas. I made it quite clear in the beginning about boundries and needing space and I think to a Scorpio that keeps the mystery! Relationships work for so many different reasons!

lol..*smiles.. that last guy that I told you about used to pull some extraodinary butter..'though it was amazingly humorous and entertaining atleast for a little while in time..
This is one scene that he actually self- generated..

him:
"You know, I tried quitting smoking for (insert name here), and for my roommates, and especially for you (meaning me), but I resent the fact that I'm doing it for other people and not for myself.. if someone else tries to make me do something, I'll do the complete opposite of what they want me to do, and resist it even more."

me: silence- amazed, and shocked..
because I'd never asked him to quit..he just out of the blue decided that he would one day.. although, I was very impressed with his efforts to make a positive change in an 'habitual area' as he'd chosen to..

His saying was was at the least, amusing to me, because when he'd first met up with me after about a year, he said to me that he read his horoscope one day that week, and that it said that he would quit a bad habit on the fifteenth of the month, and so that was what he wanted to do- he wanted to quit on the 15th of the month.. It was certainly a little different when we were out in the park one night.. it turned out to be that he was quitting for me and for his roommates, and for his other friend..when I gently tried to encourage him to resist the urge, as he began reaching for a cigarette.. he eventually smoked one, wrung my hand out of his, and made a very insulting remark to me, so I walked away from him toward the car, and left him where he was still enjoying himself.. when he approached the car, he began to unleash the darkest, ugliest side of himself that I had ever seen from him.. and then he
tried to intimidate me in someway.. he was acting very much out of his regular character that night.. which I took into consideration, but I was still very unimpressed with his non-positive behaviour..so I let him know that I was upset about his drama.. and he then let me know that he blamed me for causing him to need to smoke a cigarette that night. We had only merely chilled that night previously, and we both enjoyed each other's company until his, 'what the hell what that' personality
surfaced..

I'll be happy to answer that. Having Scorpio parents, friends and now a hubby. Wow they are everywhere!!!

Rebel, Rebel, I have seen it so many ways. If it is their idea fine, if it is someone else's, or percevied to be, watch out. They love being bad, contrary, it must be a blood vessel in their brain. Or some chemical inbalance. It just happens and when you walk away calmly, which is very hard, they don't understand and will come after you or call you. But who needs the drama is right?

I remember a scene between my parents, she held out a piece of bread for him to butter and he picked up the squeeze ketchup and blasted the piece of bread with it. I have no idea what made him do it, but she stayed calm. Pirate's in another life I say!!! ARRRRRRR Matey!

lol.. hm.. I Candle Girl don't understand why he would do that either..
it was very funny though.. 🙂

In my situation that night, all I knew was that I was not very impressed with any of it.. whether it was his idea or not, and since it was his idea to quit..it really had nothing to do with me.. the only part I played in it was to offer him support in 'his' decision.

Well, we unfortunately did not last very long, because that very night, my defense mechanisms were triggered.. and we both knew that a double dose of
"that behaviour really will not work with me," frame of mind combined with the finality of the iron fist in a velvet glove stuff from the libran side, really weren't that helpful to the situation either.. I've never not wanted to harden up in front of him so much in any way, and I think that, that night, I was doing what I considered to be an excellent job of calming the slightly savage reactions within me.. i wish i knew what made him push the drama button so far like that.. he just kept going with it, and eventually something he said made me slip, and I ended up displaying quite a sudden, (and even unexpected to me) burst of temper in front of him, which could not be controlled any further. I think that he really wasn't himself that night, and could have been affected by some kind of stimulants.
He became very upset by it, and went as far as shedding tears over it.. I felt really hellish watching it happen in front of me like that, but what was done was done, and really there was nothing that I could say or do about it, but to apologize, and try to be supportive again.. It was too late. He was really hurt, and we ended up just holding each other for almost a half hour at the end of the night, as he continued to shed tears.. nothing really describes the deep scarring that I felt at the end of the night.. and all I wanted to do was to rewind the whole night and redo it another way. It truly sucked.

the first line should read: Candle Girl, I don't understand why ...

he asked for some time away from us that night, but told me that he wanted me to call him, and that he would still speak with me over the phone, if I called..
I wanted to give him the time that he wanted, so I didn't call for a week or two, and then I checked in with him at the end of the second week away.. he was still happy to hear from me, and then informed me that he was actually going through alot of things at this point in his life., and that I shouldn't be alarmed, if he laid low for a bit.. I gave a three weekly checkins following that, and then didn't call again.. he spoke with me since, but I moved pretty far away from where we were in that relationship, and thought that it was better for us both to continue as friends from then on.. It ended there. If he wants my support he knows he has it..luv is all a different thingy now..

second part is continued from: It truly sucked..

I gave a three weekly s/b I gave him three weekly checkins following..

No No No... You have it all wrong. Don't ever call him. Hard though huh you are drawn to the fire, the flame? Scorpio's are water but the heat is truly strong.

Even change your number. I'm not saying play games or any such thing, but if you must have a Scorpio, in your life 'well my pretty as the wicked witch said' you must play on your own terms. It is exhausting, but the passion they feel emcompasses them even when they are old and withered. I had the parents to show me the link. I have been with others (Aries, Caps, Tauras, even a Pices ONCE) and finally learned to live all by myself, alone, quiet, peaceful, and then I got one more.

He must want you, and has somewhat invited you into his life. Chasing after a Scorpio is DEATH. I mean that in a good way.

Hahahahha... I know what you mean!🙂 ..but not much chasing from me.. just a laid back kinda character.. if something should blow over my way, well..I'll turn it over with my paw.. give it the old once over, and perhaps we'll have some fun! Much too shy or reserved for flashy displays of any sort, most things need to be kept simple for my involvement. You know? The mind works so much during the day that in times when it doesn't need to work so hard, it really should deserve rest. As for his case..I was the one being chased, and I gave him courtesy calls to show him how much I cared.. in the end, I had to walk away, because he generated way too much drama for me to have to process on my mind's time off. I needed something calming in my life, and although he was very sweet at times, i'm afraid that he was not quite what I was looking for yet.

LoL. The death was very funny 'though..🙂

he was scorp with virgo rising.. don't know what kind of temperant that gives him.. but i do know that he was very sweet..

According to the Definitive Guide to Scorpios:

"A Scorpio, with an ascendant in Virgo, can be quite unbearable when his innate Scorpio pedantry is combined with the Virgo obsession with order and cleanliness."

hey thanks sarcasticscorpio! Does it say anything else about virgo/scorps? Where did you read that stuff? Can you please send me the link? I'm so curious.. and hungry to know..

Hey thanks again for the scoop..
j.

The link for the Definitive Guide to Scorpios is: http://www.scorpiosite69.freeserve.co.uk/new_page_4.htm<BR>
It's a LOT of reading on Scorpio.

My brother is a Scorpio and if he ever flips out on me for no reason, he knows I will take him on and kick his a**.

You go Sloane! Have you ever had to kick his arse—

Oh yeahh. When we were young. I surprised him with my strength.