Scorpio Self-Sabotage

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Scorpios, do you ever sabotage your romantic relationships? If so, why?

We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.
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I sabotage relationships not because of other person, but for selfish reasons. I have issues which I can't deal with in a mature manner. I take it out in irrational ways. I feel I don't deserve enough and I push the other person away. Low self esteem.

What’s your sun sign? Sounds like the guy I was dating. Sigh
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Honest and trust are the two things you want in a relationship and Scorpio have a hard time with both, agree or disagree?


They do trust and they feel safe with someone whom they’ve scanned and feel safe with.

I said before that with my knowledge of this Scorpio business I can destroy him but he knows I am not going to do this. How does he know that? I don’t know but I freaked out when he told me...because he had to tell someone and I was ‘chosen’...👁
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Some people can't end a relationship that isn't working on good terms. Quite while they are ahead?

They have to blow it up and burn the bridge to help them break ties and move on.

But what if everything was going really really well?

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We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.
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Some people can't end a relationship that isn't working on good terms. Quite while they are ahead?

They have to blow it up and burn the bridge to help them break ties and move on.

But what if everything was going really really well?

I would take some time to figure out why I did that and the origin of this behavior. What did YOU do and why?

Be honest as best you can with yourself.

Professional help if you can. The list of reasons and why are very long. Some times it's simple other times needle in the hay stack. The most common one I see is not knowing how to have a healthy functional relationship because of bad examples growing up or lack their of.



What are you doing exactly?
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What did I do? I’m not even sure really. The only things I can think of is wanting him to spend more time with me, and being a little jealous.

I honestly just feel like he’s very afraid. Afraid of losing his freedom, afraid of relationships, afraid of commitment, Afraid of ruining our friendship we started with etc. he’d rather just work and escape reality thru constantly working.
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We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.

I don't want to say it, but it sounds like he met someone else. Is it possible that could happen without you knowing?
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Not ruling out the possibility, but just knowing him and his personality, he would’ve straight up told me he did. He’s very blunt and honest with me. But I mean anything is possible and it could be the case 🤷🏻‍♀️
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We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.

I don't want to say it, but it sounds like he met someone else. Is it possible that could happen without you knowing?

Not ruling out the possibility, but just knowing him and his personality, he would’ve straight up told me he did. He’s very blunt and honest with me. But I mean anything is possible and it could be the case 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well, I based that purely on it coming out of the blue. You know him, and I don't, obviously.

Have you already asked him all that you can ask him without pissing him off?
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I just kept asking why and started listing possible reasons for it and he didn’t really Give me a straight answer. I asked if it was because he gets lonely, and he says he loves being alone. I ask if it’s because of other girls and he says no. I asked if he was just bored and wanted to fuck with my mind and he says no. I wanna ask again today tho, I just wanna know why. How do you go from super serious to goodbye so quickly? 🤦🏻‍♀️
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We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.

I don't want to say it, but it sounds like he met someone else. Is it possible that could happen without you knowing?

Not ruling out the possibility, but just knowing him and his personality, he would’ve straight up told me he did. He’s very blunt and honest with me. But I mean anything is possible and it could be the case 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well, I based that purely on it coming out of the blue. You know him, and I don't, obviously.

Have you already asked him all that you can ask him without pissing him off?

I just kept asking why and started listing possible reasons for it and he didn’t really Give me a straight answer. I asked if it was because he gets lonely, and he says he loves being alone. I ask if it’s because of other girls and he says no. I asked if he was just bored and wanted to fuck with my mind and he says no. I wanna ask again today tho, I just wanna know why. How do you go from super serious to goodbye so quickly? 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Now thinking back to one of our convos he did say he didn’t wanna fall for me, but said he could already feel himself falling. And he said he doesn’t know what he wants
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We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.

I don't want to say it, but it sounds like he met someone else. Is it possible that could happen without you knowing?

Not ruling out the possibility, but just knowing him and his personality, he would’ve straight up told me he did. He’s very blunt and honest with me. But I mean anything is possible and it could be the case 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well, I based that purely on it coming out of the blue. You know him, and I don't, obviously.

Have you already asked him all that you can ask him without pissing him off?

I just kept asking why and started listing possible reasons for it and he didn’t really Give me a straight answer. I asked if it was because he gets lonely, and he says he loves being alone. I ask if it’s because of other girls and he says no. I asked if he was just bored and wanted to fuck with my mind and he says no. I wanna ask again today tho, I just wanna know why. How do you go from super serious to goodbye so quickly? 🤦🏻‍♀️

I would probably be crying and demanding answers, but I'm kind of an emotional asshole in these situations. Besides, I hear that demanding is the least effective way to get something out of a Scorpio.
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I’m super emotional but I don’t like showing it. I also get prideful af and don’t want him to feel like I’m wasting all my energy, and have nothing to dwell on but this situation (even tho the reality is I am lol! 😪). I’m definitely gonna ask again. Idk when. Maybe today, maybe not. I just need to know.
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Some people can't end a relationship that isn't working on good terms. Quite while they are ahead?

They have to blow it up and burn the bridge to help them break ties and move on.

But what if everything was going really really well?

I would take some time to figure out why I did that and the origin of this behavior. What did YOU do and why?

Be honest as best you can with yourself.

Professional help if you can. The list of reasons and why are very long. Some times it's simple other times needle in the hay stack. The most common one I see is not knowing how to have a healthy functional relationship because of bad examples growing up or lack their of.



What are you doing exactly?

What did I do? I’m not even sure really. The only things I can think of is wanting him to spend more time with me, and being a little jealous.

I honestly just feel like he’s very afraid. Afraid of losing his freedom, afraid of relationships, afraid of commitment, Afraid of ruining our friendship we started with etc. he’d rather just work and escape reality thru constantly working.

So you were unhappy with a aspect of the relationship. Not enough time together.

What amount would you be ok with vs what you were getting?

Did you communicate that?

What did he say that makes you think he is running? or is he just a workaholic?
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Sorry this got long, I didn’t mean for it to get this long lol 😩

Yeah that was definitely my main issue. I like a lot of space, and I respect giving people space, but I would see him probably once every 2 or 3 weeks, and we don’t live far away from each other. Sometimes longer. I would like to see the person I’m dating at least once a week. I told him all the time that it bothered me, and he seemed to be trying more this time around to make an effort to see me so I was happy with it. I told him that it didn’t make sense to say you really like someone and even want them to have your children, but you don’t make the time to see them. And he agreed so he tried more.

I think it’s both. He’s definitely the type of person with escapist tendencies, and I think he uses work as one of his escapes. He tried to use work as an excuse before as a reason why we shouldn’t be together. He works 12 hours a day everyday except Sunday not because he has to, but because he wants to. I love that he loves working and loves his job, but I feel like he uses it to escape reality. I could be wrong, it’s just an observation. I blame his cap moon conjuncting his Saturn lol 😅

We started off as close friends, and he told me from the start that he was afraid of losing me completely. His thoughts were if we end this relationship, it’s gonna ruin our friendship. I promised him that I would stay his friend after if anything happens (I usually don’t stay friends with exes, I’d rather cut off all contact and move on). A couple of times in this relationship he would break it off saying that he doesn’t wanna ruin the friendship, or he feels like I deserve better than him, and he feels like he’s gonna waste my time. This last time I asked what he was so afraid of, and he said he fucks up everything good that comes to his life (which is why I ask about self-sabotage), and he’s afraid he’s gonna fuck this up. He’s also said that he avoids getting too close to people in general out of fear of eventually losing them. And when I asked his friends (we have mutual friends) about the whole not making time for people issue, they say he does the same to them and that’s just how he is, and not to take it personal. He also said he doesn’t wanna fall deep for me, but he already feel like he did.
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I've done it a few times, but I have Scorpio moon. I tend to test people early on in a relationship. I'm an extremely self controlled person, but still have my emotions and a bad side. I'll pretend to be my worst at the right time just to see their reaction. I want them to show me they can be loyal to me even when all the odds are against them, which if they succeed I will forever trust them. From there I will give them my 100% , and do everything in my power to make them feel safe, loved, and appreciated. I'll turn from what appears to be a wild card to a genuine dependable lover. I really just want to see if they really want me as a person, or if simple aspects of me inflate their ego and it's all about them.
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I've done it a few times, but I have Scorpio moon. I tend to test people early on in a relationship. I'm an extremely self controlled person, but still have my emotions and a bad side. I'll pretend to be my worst at the right time just to see their reaction. I want them to show me they can be loyal to me even when all the odds are against them, which if they succeed I will forever trust them. From there I will give them my 100% , and do everything in my power to make them feel safe, loved, and appreciated. I'll turn from what appears to be a wild card to a genuine dependable lover. I really just want to see if they really want me as a person, or if simple aspects of me inflate their ego and it's all about them.


Man, this guy used to test me a lot in the beginning. Wonder if I failed any of them lol. Sometimes I feel like him breaking things off is a test too.
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OP: " but I would see him probably once every 2 or 3 weeks, and we don’t live far away from each other. Sometimes longer."

wut? thats very strange.... how long this insanity went on?

have you met his parents? do you have mutual friends you spend time with together? how your usual date looks like?

once every 2 or 3 weeks is very bad imho.... he def has someone else... or loves someone else..some ex of his maybe?
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Some people can't end a relationship that isn't working on good terms. Quite while they are ahead?

They have to blow it up and burn the bridge to help them break ties and move on.

But what if everything was going really really well?

I would take some time to figure out why I did that and the origin of this behavior. What did YOU do and why?

Be honest as best you can with yourself.

Professional help if you can. The list of reasons and why are very long. Some times it's simple other times needle in the hay stack. The most common one I see is not knowing how to have a healthy functional relationship because of bad examples growing up or lack their of.



What are you doing exactly?

What did I do? I’m not even sure really. The only things I can think of is wanting him to spend more time with me, and being a little jealous.

I honestly just feel like he’s very afraid. Afraid of losing his freedom, afraid of relationships, afraid of commitment, Afraid of ruining our friendship we started with etc. he’d rather just work and escape reality thru constantly working.

So you were unhappy with a aspect of the relationship. Not enough time together.

What amount would you be ok with vs what you were getting?

Did you communicate that?

What did he say that makes you think he is running? or is he just a workaholic?

Sorry this got long, I didn’t mean for it to get this long lol 😩

Yeah that was definitely my main issue. I like a lot of space, and I respect giving people space, but I would see him probably once every 2 or 3 weeks, and we don’t live far away from each other. Sometimes longer. I would like to see the person I’m dating at least once a week. I told him all the time that it bothered me, and he seemed to be trying more this time around to make an effort to see me so I was happy with it. I told him that it didn’t make sense to say you really like someone and even want them to have your children, but you don’t make the time to see them. And he agreed so he tried more.

I think it’s both. He’s definitely the type of person with escapist tendencies, and I think he uses work as one of his escapes. He tried to use work as an excuse before as a reason why we shouldn’t be together. He works 12 hours a day everyday except Sunday not because he has to, but because he wants to. I love that he loves working and loves his job, but I feel like he uses it to escape reality. I could be wrong, it’s just an observation. I blame his cap moon conjuncting his Saturn lol 😅

We started off as close friends, and he told me from the start that he was afraid of losing me completely. His thoughts were if we end this relationship, it’s gonna ruin our friendship. I promised him that I would stay his friend after if anything happens (I usually don’t stay friends with exes, I’d rather cut off all contact and move on). A couple of times in this relationship he would break it off saying that he doesn’t wanna ruin the friendship, or he feels like I deserve better than him, and he feels like he’s gonna waste my time. This last time I asked what he was so afraid of, and he said he fucks up everything good that comes to his life (which is why I ask about self-sabotage), and he’s afraid he’s gonna fuck this up. He’s also said that he avoids getting too close to people in general out of fear of eventually losing them. And when I asked his friends (we have mutual friends) about the whole not making time for people issue, they say he does the same to them and that’s just how he is, and not to take it personal. He also said he doesn’t wanna fall deep for me, but he already feel like he did.

So, he knows what's up and choosing to be this way. That's on him. Maybe one day he will recognize the value relationships and accept the risk vs. reward part. The Good and possible unfortunate parts. Give each other space and restart the friendship after a while. Keep your boundaries up do you don't slip into Bf/Gf mode out of habit. Well unless you want to give it another shot one day.

That wasn't long at all. Explained well too!
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I hope so. Being friends is gonna be so hard for me. That’s why I’d rather just cut him off cold turkey, but I promised I’d stay his friend and I’m not gonna break that promise. Maybe again someday, idk. We’ll see if he actually keeps his word this time. In the past he’s tried to put me back in the friendzone, but then comes back in bf mode
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Scorpios, do you ever sabotage your romantic relationships? If so, why?

We’ve been on and off, and this time around Everything was going SO well. We talked about the future, trips we planned, having kids together etc. then suddenly he just breaks it off with me and says it’s for the best. I don’t get it. I ask him why and he doesn’t give me a reason

At one point I thought I was pregnant and he was so happy and excited and said he was sad when I found out it was a false positive. So to go from that to just breaking it off is so strange to me.


No.

If I don't want you, I will let you know.
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Some people can't end a relationship that isn't working on good terms. Quite while they are ahead?

They have to blow it up and burn the bridge to help them break ties and move on.

But what if everything was going really really well?

I would take some time to figure out why I did that and the origin of this behavior. What did YOU do and why?

Be honest as best you can with yourself.

Professional help if you can. The list of reasons and why are very long. Some times it's simple other times needle in the hay stack. The most common one I see is not knowing how to have a healthy functional relationship because of bad examples growing up or lack their of.



What are you doing exactly?

What did I do? I’m not even sure really. The only things I can think of is wanting him to spend more time with me, and being a little jealous.

I honestly just feel like he’s very afraid. Afraid of losing his freedom, afraid of relationships, afraid of commitment, Afraid of ruining our friendship we started with etc. he’d rather just work and escape reality thru constantly working.

So you were unhappy with a aspect of the relationship. Not enough time together.

What amount would you be ok with vs what you were getting?

Did you communicate that?

What did he say that makes you think he is running? or is he just a workaholic?

Sorry this got long, I didn’t mean for it to get this long lol 😩

Yeah that was definitely my main issue. I like a lot of space, and I respect giving people space, but I would see him probably once every 2 or 3 weeks, and we don’t live far away from each other. Sometimes longer. I would like to see the person I’m dating at least once a week. I told him all the time that it bothered me, and he seemed to be trying more this time around to make an effort to see me so I was happy with it. I told him that it didn’t make sense to say you really like someone and even want them to have your children, but you don’t make the time to see them. And he agreed so he tried more.

I think it’s both. He’s definitely the type of person with escapist tendencies, and I think he uses work as one of his escapes. He tried to use work as an excuse before as a reason why we shouldn’t be together. He works 12 hours a day everyday except Sunday not because he has to, but because he wants to. I love that he loves working and loves his job, but I feel like he uses it to escape reality. I could be wrong, it’s just an observation. I blame his cap moon conjuncting his Saturn lol 😅

We started off as close friends, and he told me from the start that he was afraid of losing me completely. His thoughts were if we end this relationship, it’s gonna ruin our friendship. I promised him that I would stay his friend after if anything happens (I usually don’t stay friends with exes, I’d rather cut off all contact and move on). A couple of times in this relationship he would break it off saying that he doesn’t wanna ruin the friendship, or he feels like I deserve better than him, and he feels like he’s gonna waste my time. This last time I asked what he was so afraid of, and he said he fucks up everything good that comes to his life (which is why I ask about self-sabotage), and he’s afraid he’s gonna fuck this up. He’s also said that he avoids getting too close to people in general out of fear of eventually losing them. And when I asked his friends (we have mutual friends) about the whole not making time for people issue, they say he does the same to them and that’s just how he is, and not to take it personal. He also said he doesn’t wanna fall deep for me, but he already feel like he did.

So, he knows what's up and choosing to be this way. That's on him. Maybe one day he will recognize the value relationships and accept the risk vs. reward part. The Good and possible unfortunate parts. Give each other space and restart the friendship after a while. Keep your boundaries up do you don't slip into Bf/Gf mode out of habit. Well unless you want to give it another shot one day.

That wasn't long at all. Explained well too!

I hope so. Being friends is gonna be so hard for me. That’s why I’d rather just cut him off cold turkey, but I promised I’d stay his friend and I’m not gonna break that promise. Maybe again someday, idk. We’ll see if he actually keeps his word this time. In the past he’s tried to put me back in the friendzone, but then comes back in bf mode

Connections are 2 way streets. Very good chance he cares as much as you. You are each handling it differently, because you are different. Friend zoning, allows him to keep you in his life without worrying about the stupid shit he has in his head happening. Which is a self fulling prophecy.

The best way to deal with a Virgo is talking things out and questioning the origin of his logic to understand. It's not about right or wrong rather cause and effect.

Focusing on right and wrong will cause people to feel threatened and they will focus on defending themselves rather then open up.

What is his Mercury?
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I definitely know he cares about me especially after the convo we had today. My moon in cancer is just clinging onto him ugh. The whole friend zoning thing definitely makes sense.

I agree. When we’d have those deep convos, I always tried to get to the root of his thoughts like you mentioned. I think it worked well because he always told me without much hesitation. He’s a Scorpio Mercury

Scorp sun/merc/rising, Cap moon, Sag Venus, and Libra mars
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UPDATE: spoke to him on the phone. He said that him and our friends (which I’m kind of annoyed that he told everyone. I don’t like people knowing my business) were talking about our situation and the whole pregnancy scare. And they all said “why would you guys have a baby together when you guys barely even hang out or see each other” and he said that really hit him hard and made him realize that he can’t give me what I want. And he feels bad that everyone else sees it too. He said I have certain expectations (wanting to see him a lot) that he can’t meet, and he knows he’s not gonna change. And he doesn’t wanna fuck with my head or keep me waiting on him because he has that respect towards me. Said that if I were some random girl he wouldn’t care and would keep messing with my head. I can tell he doesn’t wanna leave. He keeps going back and forth on his decision. He says he still wants me and doesn’t wanna let me go but can’t continue hurting me anymore. But Now he’s being all lovey dovey and wants to see me after work lol 🤦🏻‍♀️

I love that he tells me straight forward, and doesn’t sugar coat or lie like guys I’ve dealt with. Makes me fall for him even more. Ugh. This is so hard 😭
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I've done it a few times, but I have Scorpio moon. I tend to test people early on in a relationship. I'm an extremely self controlled person, but still have my emotions and a bad side. I'll pretend to be my worst at the right time just to see their reaction. I want them to show me they can be loyal to me even when all the odds are against them, which if they succeed I will forever trust them. From there I will give them my 100% , and do everything in my power to make them feel safe, loved, and appreciated. I'll turn from what appears to be a wild card to a genuine dependable lover. I really just want to see if they really want me as a person, or if simple aspects of me inflate their ego and it's all about them.


What are your other placements?
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I've done it a few times, but I have Scorpio moon. I tend to test people early on in a relationship. I'm an extremely self controlled person, but still have my emotions and a bad side. I'll pretend to be my worst at the right time just to see their reaction. I want them to show me they can be loyal to me even when all the odds are against them, which if they succeed I will forever trust them. From there I will give them my 100% , and do everything in my power to make them feel safe, loved, and appreciated. I'll turn from what appears to be a wild card to a genuine dependable lover. I really just want to see if they really want me as a person, or if simple aspects of me inflate their ego and it's all about them.

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Cancer rising, Leo sun, Virgo mercury, Cancer Venus, Taurus mars.