Taurus/Scorp Polar Opposite Disaster

Just so I can add to the stats, this does NOT work. My scorp man is a sweetheart deep inside but he rubs me the wrong way & irritates me to death some days. I don't even know how to break up, he seems obessively emotionally involved in a short time. Great person - NOT with me. Scorps, I'll stick to my sis and be content. Oh, and this intense passionate sexual person they are supposed to be was kinda off with this guy. I mean it's called obsessed or stuck on one subject and self pity/indulgence/whatever. I'm so dissapointed. I really thot it would be a good match. I'm just a little nervous he's gonna pull out his stinger when I attempt to leave on good terms. Wish me luck.

Can I be honest?
It's always felt to me like you were with him for the wrong reasons.

I have to agree with Branh there, that you need to be vocal when you are hurtin. But I also have to add, that doesn't always work. I think you are seeing this guys true colours TG, and these patterns that are developing are deeply ingrained and talking them out will just result in him covering up what you don't like in a cosmetic kind of way. Give it a try, just to cover your ass. That way you can say "I TOLD you that I don't like (this or that)"

My friend is a Scorp and her husband is a Taurus. They are a nice couple but definitely not the best match. My friend has been already cheating on her husband a few times and dreams about other men. Something missing in their relationship.

I think the same way Elliot does, there could have been wrong reasons.. When I met my Scorp (we are not together, only by hearts), I didn't know anything about Scorps (never read the definition from any astrological book). And I didn't even know his sign. I fell in love with him before I knew his sign and anything about his sign, or compatibility or anything. That was just a great match of souls when we met. And it still is. We keep in touch (it's been really hard to wait for something which may never happen). We just happen to live so far away from each other. Not even in the same country. Not even in the same continent. And lots of other barriers.. But after all these years the feeling is still the same. I like to read about astrology and to talk about it. But I don't really think that I fell in love with him because of astrological compatibility. I don't think it has nothing to do with it in my own life. I just like to read about astrology.

There are many things in my Scorp that could irritate me if it was someone else but not him. If you are in love you will accept things in your lovers personality, things you could never accept with anyone else. And those things are just lil things, if you really think about it. But those things really irritate you coz it's not love. That's what I think. I've had a relationship with a guy for 3 years. And everything in him was irritating (don't ask me why I still stuck on him, that's a long story). Finally when it was ended, I realized that I never loved the guy.

LMAO @ Mommy!
I rather like the "ready made" concept myself. People can't change, or if they do, it is with deep resentment that will emerge later on and bite you in the ass. If the man can't see that constantly helping himself to stuff without offering anything back is being a leech, then there is something wrong with the way he sees the world, in general. It isn't a minor issue but the sign of a very self centred personality, in my opinion. Lovey dovey words and emotional histrionics on his part don't mean butter when the things he does say "it's all about me".

I've never been that close to anyone of my opposing sign, I wouldn't know what it is like. Sounds very interesting and intense, though.

anyway.. i think taureans seem to like "ready-mades"

Yes! And they should be ready-made to our taste 😛 No fuss please people, no good, next please lol yeah wish it was that simple ha ha

"yah, i've got this pesky conscience urging me to take care of the people around me...*shudder* "

Ah! me too! Must be a taurus thing to feel like you have to and are willing to protect or take care of someone bigger AND stronger than you... I say it because of the obvious- me being a female and feeling protective of even my bfs and male friends...

I have one very good friend who is an Aries. She is constantly making me roll my eyes though, with her "all or nothing" aggressive approach. On the other hand, she is the most loyal, understanding, generous friend you could want. Another Aries that I used to know was one of the only people that I actually had a screaming match with, big style . If they are true to their sign, I can't see myself being attracted to one, much less in a relationship with one.
And yeah, maybe it is the scorp in me that overrides the libra in these things, because I like taurean very much!

"it's too much like work-- you've always gotta be constantly working to understand each other"

LOL, lazy taurus. hehe, well said.

LOL ain' that the truth! Working at it, talking things out............BAH! Like I have been saying, speak your mind only for the purpose of not being accused of not saying anything at all. The difference in the end is the same. None whatsoever. Wow, don't I sound jaded?

"Now when you communicate, and he still doesn't respect it, then you have the right to complain. Otherwise, you have no right to complain, because you are letting it happen."

Exactly. That's what I have been saying, speak up..........but also don't be so surprised if it's like talking to a brick. Talking is not a magic wand. It takes two. I am also saying that there are signs when it can be pointless, and I have learned them well. Scottish Folds make nice cats, don't they?

Well I have said things to him, and it got kinda tense, and I really felt that we view things so differently that it would only be the start of more problems down the road. I mean, the guy is great and I was maybe a little more mad than I should've been for a few days, but I think I just feel that it's not working and the little things just get to me easier. It really doesn't feel good when you really like someone and yet you are opposite on the spectrum. I don't think it is only being opposites but perhaps a little of life experience and maturity. He has so much potential though and I know it. So, thanks for the advise on the better communication. I tried, it proved to me a negative experience, I am not a coward for trying and most definately not for wanting only the best for both himself and I. I just never want to be in a relationship that feels not right. So say whatever to that. I am true to my heart. -taurusgoddess

It did look hot on you though. (horns poking out) doh!

Branh - never said just get up and leave, of course you have to express your dissatisfaction. If someone isn't even aware that their actions are inappropriate, upsetting, or annoying, then they have their heads so firmly up their ass that there is little point in carrying on. Sometimes things just don't work. Some of us can see it coming for miles, others like to hammer away until all involved are hurt, frustrated and angry. "Beating a dead horse" comes to mind. Calling it a day sometimes takes more courage than sticking with it. A lot of "adults" stay around because of fear of being alone or fear of losing all the time and energy they have invested. Not saying this is the case here, just throwing my two cents in.

Thanks Yatta, I think that's kind of how I feel. But perhaps it's not easy for people to understand everything because all they know are the few words I post which can sometimes be presented wrong or misinterpreted. ha, once again a failure in communication! lol

"A lot of "adults" stay around because of fear of being alone or fear of losing all the time and energy they have invested. Not saying this is the case here, just throwing my two cents in. "

Thats not always the case,you don't get a promotion by your doing your "normal" routine.Sure some people like me do but I always put in 110% of myself but other people,it's always uping the workload on themselves when they now a promotion is going to happen,same thing when supervisiors are around and raise reveiws,people need outside motivation to get the best out of them.

"just paint over the house numbers"

Lol sag! But you didn't think about the possibility that the mail man might also have a lot of taurus in him ey? 😛

I think Brahn had a good point with the whole 'speak up' speech... overlooking the 'coward if you don't do this or that' la la la la which sounds offensive and isn't necessarily true... ahhh but bottom line and straight to the point makes sense.

However I do like the get up and go dissapearing act... just moi. I think relatinships do require effort... and tolerance. No ones perfect and you should love someone with all their qualities andddd faults (which to you personally are tolerable) You should be vocal about things that could actually be changed... annoying habits and things of that nature. You get to the point where you know a person well and if you don't like them then it's see ya later and that's that. No point in rubbing things in their face or telling them what you don't like about who tHeY aRe... more likely than not they won't see it, get defensive, worse even- change temporarily! No use in getting all worked up and even end up with resentments and hate.

Keeping with the "job" analogy, would you stay in a job that pays nothing, has no chance for a promotion and your efforts aren't recognized? Or would you look elsewhere or set up shop yourself? That's what I am talking about.

^^ That's d@mn good point. Another good example that I can use when I'm talking to some of my friends (mostly the female ones) who truly do NOT know how to say NO MORE to their relationships. The job analogy!

I guess another way to look at it though, is to take some responsibility. After all, a job will only pay you nothing money if you're expendable. If you're 'special' and 'irreplacable' to the job, then you'll be paid special money because you're someone to be kept at all costs.
Hah, and then this includes either being special because you're a kiss-a $ $ , or being special because you just ARE (meaning you're always in favor, cuz you're a tasty flavor lol - in all the ways that you can be 'tasty'.)

Yeah, Elliot, but being "special" is something that you do for yourself, on your own.....not FOR someone or for some particular reward. That is growth, and it should happen independently of relationships. LOL if you haven't guessed by now, I am not big on relationships at the moment. I think they suck.
(is "special" in an Olympic kinda way)

Hahaha, no I meant special to the relationship, as in something that you do for yourself like you said Yatta. In my opinion that's the best way you go about any job, right? Not to impress people, but to be doing things well for yourself. I mean, if a job's not worth doing well - it may not be for you period.

But thinking about "special" as an Olympic thing is funny lol.

People who need to be in a relationship to feel like they are special aren't in love thats insecurities.Kinda like what me and haffo are getting at with that other topic,you have to already know your special and have repect for yourself to actually be successful in a still loving;emotionally and/but working;physically relationship but still need to be able to work with them when they are down in the dumps about something or to simply motivate them.Guess thats the reason I keep coming back with "no's" to some perceptions from people on what they think im meaning to post regarding relationships,people who don't know what im meaning to get at are jumping to extreme conclusions about what they think it's supposed to mean.I need to do alot of perfecting on the wording yet lol,maybe i'll actually sit down with a pen and notebook on a day off and try to put in a better way to explain it one of these days.

I am a Taurus and was with a scorpio for a year, he was nice but drove me crazy. I a Taurus friend married to a scorp and I dont think there is much going on in the bedroom. Dating your opposite might not be the way to go, hahahaha have you tried a capricorn....?

^^ See, See? There you go Scorpios - Capricorns are foxy.
Meanwhile, Taureans should be out there looking for Pisces Partners! They always seem to be soo darn good. I see the good connection, but Taureans love bold, strong, a $ $ -whoopin' types in general - so that relationship always takes me by surprise. But then again, Pisceans like their partners to be strong too - and Taurus is the definition of it - so that might be how it goes.

Tia, I understand haha.

I don't like capricorns😛,well okay I like em but I would never date one.I'll stick to my pisces baby.Cardinal signs are too bossy with no action except for libras(thier balencing scales probably make them seem and act more like a mutable sign) and SOME(I highlight cancers because some are crazy when "testing" relationships)cancers in most cases.Ends up with me mad because they expect too much too fast,are playing dishonest games to force or trick me to commit or me running around like a chicken with your head cut off if I were to play nice with em with little to nearly zero effort on thier side.Maybe a little shallow but I expect to see results on thier half not just me doing most of the work.Cap women are cool though so maybe for a scorp guy it would work better than me with any of the cap guys I know lol.

Perfect match for taurus is another taurus and if they had the same ascendant and moon that would be awesome 🙂

Hah! I think that I have yet to date a cappy! I wonder if that would be my match made in heaven...? My guys best friend is a cappy and he is so cute and serious and responsible but also funny and he's been with his girlfriend forever and he really likes her...
If I was with someone like him what would bother me is how little attention he pays to his gf... like they don't sit together when they're out and they barely see each other... I mean if they both have time to sit home and watch tv... why not together? Atleast more often... and this is a guy who definitely likes his gf
Another thing is how little interest they have in spontaneity. I mean movies cuddled up on a couch is pretty cool but how 'bout when you get that sudden impulse to take off?! I don't know how that would go with mr.cappy... hmmm

Mentioning the whole taurus/scorp 'disaster' I find that scorp guys call for my attention and I like the vibe they give off... most give off a sort of intense vibe and I love the way they look at you... I'd say it's like an invitation to play which is exciting right? But bottom line I've never really felt an attraction so I'm skeptical about the whole opposite fatal attraction deal.

You have scorpio oppositions in your chart though,I have a taurus moon so no effect on me whatsoever with this whole "fatal attraction' stuff either with tauruses.Im thinking it's because of that reason that all this talk about it is over my head when thinking about tauruses in that way.

Yea if we're supposed to talk seriously about break-ups and bad relations here, we may as well leave the Astrology board and take it outside haha. But it's more fun (and dreamy) to talk about it in terms of Sun signs anyways lol.

What Astrology has taught me about 'Perrrfect Marriages' is that they are not between-

All You Are & All You Are Not (Those are opposites, not 'meant' to be happy marriages lol)

But,

All You Are & All You Are Existing For!

And it goes deeper than your inspirations, or callings, or societal functions, or your talents -- it goes right down to one simple thing that you want everything in your life to be geared toward.

For instance, someone can get a music career because they love making music and what not.

Some, however, would want Competence and Prestige from their life of music, some want Transcendence, some want Timelessness, some want Infinite Abundance, some want Pride and Honor, some want Real Power and Sure Influence, some want to call to Action, some want Understanding, and sooo on...

So The Goat IS Prestige and Competence, whereas the Scorpion Lives Toward It!
The Scorpion IS Real Power and Binding Law, whereas The Goat Lives Toward It!

The Fish IS Dreams and Transcendance, whereas the Bull Lives Toward It!
The Bull IS Strength and Solidarity, whereas The Fish Lives Toward It!

And the pattern goes on for each perfect marriage in the zodiac (see if you can figure the purpose for the rest of the marriages yourself..)
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Pisces and Taurus, Aries and Gemini, Cancer and Virgo, Leo and Libra, Scorpio and Capricorn, Aquarius and Sagittarius.
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Now obviously, for 12 Symbols the pattern is incredibly easier than the patterns for the gazillions of human beings who come and go with the time - who all have complex charts/life experiences (nature & nurture) that define them right down to the last inkling of their personalilites.

But it's all about finding He or She who you exist for - you exist for it in every thing that you do - your reason for getting up and living - that's who your perfect mate is. Confusing? Hopefully not.

Interesting way of looking at it. Man you are a little dreamy when you talk! haha

I feel so sick about this breakup, and I'm still too pansy to have done it. I don't wanna drag him along, but the Christmas season is kind of a bad time. On saturday he dropped off a gift on his way outta town, and said I hadn't wrapped his present yet that I wanted to make an evening of it next week. Bad lie. I thought I could have broken up with him by then but I didn't see him all week. So he left the gift and I want to give it back, but that is rude, so I figured I'd buy him a gift and break up with him tommorow or something. I hate this!!! All complicated. And it's not like he's a bad guy. He's treated me like gold, but we rushed into this relationship soooooo fast, and now I realize he is far from what I am looking for, and our life style and interests are so different. There is no way I want to hurt this guy. But I have to do this THIS week, I can't drag things on any longer. HOW the HeIL do I break up with a scorp without making him feel like it's his fault. He shows signs that he is a little insecure and I don't want to be the one to take away his faith in love. 😢

"...for 12 Symbols the pattern is incredibly easier than the patterns for the gazillions of human beings who come and go with the time - who all have complex charts/life experiences... but it's all about finding He or She who you exist for - you exist for it in every thing that you do - your reason for getting up and living - that's who your perfect mate is."

Yes. But you expect a great deal when you expect others to understand. The view you're describing is meant to be seen from the path you're walking.

TG, you're wrestling with your own heart, when it knows exactly what you need. Just do what's really in your heart and you won't regret it.

Aaaw TG, not a fun time no matter when you do it, but you know it needs doing. Try leaving a scorp after 15 years! I think you possess enough tact, diplomacy and caring for the guy to do it with minimum damage, and it hasn't been that long of a time. The scorps I have known are resilient and I have remained on friendly terms with all of them. Don't underestimate his ability to see what is for the best...eventually.

Thanks guys, I feel a little better. Scorp is coming down in a bit, we're going have our christmas & have a few Xmas drinks & I'll slide in what he is looking for and see where it goes. At least then we can talk civily and maybe he can see that it won't work. I'll let him think about our conversation, and i will too, and maybe i'll deal with it tommorow or the day after. I think we both will feel better if we have a talk outlining where it's really going so that we can understand better that it won't work. And if it backfires - oh well, at least i tried. Never a fun time when you're trying to be real. A $ $ holes have it easier, yet they probally don't even respect themselves! lol

"Interesting way of looking at it. Man you are a little dreamy when you talk! haha"

Lol, yea I know what you mean haha. In fact, you could've used an insulting word instead of the word dreamy, and I still would've agreed with you. But I think I made my point decently and understandably.

"Yes. But you expect a great deal when you expect others to understand. The view you're describing is meant to be seen from the path you're walking."

Good point, I do not doubt it. Actually, I really don't 'expect' people to understand. I'm not like that, my expetancy is pretty open to anything at all - I just think these thoughts for myself (only from my own path, EXACTLY like you said) and every now and then I trrrryyyy to express them as well as possible.) It's not supposed to change anyone's life lol, but it's great for me to see for myself, no doubt! Scorpios do well when they Attempt to Express, right? hahah

I just thought I'd elaborate my thoughts on a pattern in Astrology and how I define its meaning is all. Now where this comes to real life situations, well I'm not talking Astrology at all really. It's all just good for me to have in my mind.

And TaurusGoddess,
..I'm sorry. I guess you were pretty excited about him.... but you seem to feel let down. Take it easy huh.

Ya, I'll try. The thing is I've been hurt so badly so I want to avoid doing that to him, but I am going to do what my heart tells me. I would hate for someone to stay with me if they didn't feel it was right. I just want to respect him and be true. He as least deserves that. 😢

Sting of the scorpion is nothing to being kicked in the teeth by the hoof of a bull. This morning, I am picking up chiclets (teeth). Ouch. *runs to a denturist*