For me, I think it means I cannot receive love. I am unlovable.
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Posted by MrFirebird
For me, I think it means I cannot receive love. I am unlovable.
Posted by MoonArtistPosted by MrFirebird
For me, I think it means I cannot receive love. I am unlovable.
Apparently so.
I read two slight different versions of it. But why would it mean you're unlovable? Especially Cancer!
But perhaps the most frustrations are given by Lilith thus positioned. Family secrets surely exist, abandoned children, suffering women, dying at childbirth, slain and raped (Sharon Tate, wife of Roman Polanski, that was killed while pregnant in the massacre of Manson??s gang in her house has LI in Cancer), many vices — especially alcohol (Hendrix, Janis Joplin), houses that are lost, burned, stolen. Those are the events that make a person feel like a stranger in his own family so in his youth he wants only to leave as soon as he can.
With his family and relatives he meets only when someone is in trouble or not even then, while in times of peace relationships can be hard, cold — usually from others toward this person, which is what makes him feel betrayed and deserted by the people closest to him. This is a difficult position that brings suffering and torture always because of someone very close, someone who is under the same roof as this person, whether it is an ill parent, a problematic child or a drunken husband. Here, the relationship of the person with his mother is very important, whether he has one or whether she has (which is frequently the case) died or is living somewhere far away. The mother will sooner or later, through her action, words or deeds hurt the person, make it vulnerable and simultaneously dangerous for any one in the future who betrays his love and dedication. This is the reason men lose their faith in women early on, they get disappointed several times and in their mature years usually have many women in their past. These are people that fear loneliness more than anything and if they do not find what they are looking for in the first half of their life, they go to the extreme and make themselves absolutely unavailable for the emotions of other people, condemning themselves to being lonely and rejected.
The darnedest thing is I've always felt alone.
With his family and relatives he meets only when someone is in trouble or not even then, while in times of peace relationships can be hard, cold — usually from others toward this person, which is what makes him feel betrayed and deserted by the people closest to him. This is a difficult position that brings suffering and torture always because of someone very close, someone who is under the same roof as this person, whether it is an ill parent, a problematic child or a drunken husband. Here, the relationship of the person with his mother is very important, whether he has one or whether she has (which is frequently the case) died or is living somewhere far away. The mother will sooner or later, through her action, words or deeds hurt the person, make it vulnerable and simultaneously dangerous for any one in the future who betrays his love and dedication. This is the reason men lose their faith in women early on, they get disappointed several times and in their mature years usually have many women in their past. These are people that fear loneliness more than anything and if they do not find what they are looking for in the first half of their life, they go to the extreme and make themselves absolutely unavailable for the emotions of other people, condemning themselves to being lonely and rejected.
The darnedest thing is I've always felt alone.
Posted by MrFirebird
But perhaps the most frustrations are given by Lilith thus positioned. Family secrets surely exist, abandoned children, suffering women, dying at childbirth, slain and raped (Sharon Tate, wife of Roman Polanski, that was killed while pregnant in the massacre of Manson??s gang in her house has LI in Cancer), many vices — especially alcohol (Hendrix, Janis Joplin), houses that are lost, burned, stolen. Those are the events that make a person feel like a stranger in his own family so in his youth he wants only to leave as soon as he can.
With his family and relatives he meets only when someone is in trouble or not even then, while in times of peace relationships can be hard, cold — usually from others toward this person, which is what makes him feel betrayed and deserted by the people closest to him. This is a difficult position that brings suffering and torture always because of someone very close, someone who is under the same roof as this person, whether it is an ill parent, a problematic child or a drunken husband. Here, the relationship of the person with his mother is very important, whether he has one or whether she has (which is frequently the case) died or is living somewhere far away. The mother will sooner or later, through her action, words or deeds hurt the person, make it vulnerable and simultaneously dangerous for any one in the future who betrays his love and dedication. This is the reason men lose their faith in women early on, they get disappointed several times and in their mature years usually have many women in their past. These are people that fear loneliness more than anything and if they do not find what they are looking for in the first half of their life, they go to the extreme and make themselves absolutely unavailable for the emotions of other people, condemning themselves to being lonely and rejected.
The darnedest thing is I've always felt alone.
Come to find out, they sing songs about me. Or perhaps...
I simply live the life they sang about.
I simply live the life they sang about.
Posted by blisssPosted by MoonArtistPosted by blisss
Hi, MoonArtist! *waves* what does the lilith mean when it comes to our personalities?
From what I understand it's our dark side....and where it's at in our chart is where your dark side will be most prominent. That's the simplest explanation.
Sounds like I need to read about this. This is interesting.click to expand
It is, actually...except for the really depressing stuff.
Posted by blisssPosted by MrFirebirdPosted by blisss
I made a mess of this thread because it keeps chopping up my text... 0_0 Sorry!
That's ok, you just don't know the strength of your Karate.
chop, chop!
It's all about control. And control begins with patience.
Tell that to all my Scorpio and Aries moon. Ramming all over this board... 0=]click to expand
Scorpio and Aries Moon.... shape up or ship out!
😉
Posted by MoonArtistPosted by blisssPosted by MoonArtistPosted by blisss
Hi, MoonArtist! *waves* what does the lilith mean when it comes to our personalities?
From what I understand it's our dark side....and where it's at in our chart is where your dark side will be most prominent. That's the simplest explanation.
Sounds like I need to read about this. This is interesting.
It is, actually...except for the really depressing stuff.click to expand
That lilith thing isn't known to be an "uplifting" topic.
Getting back to the subject of the Phantom, I was just seeing some things that sounded familiar.
I hate dealing with depressing topics. More sunshine and butterflies!!
Posted by MoonArtist
I hate dealing with depressing topics. More sunshine and butterflies!!
I understand. not many care too much about confronting depressing topics.
For me.. it's not as depressing as it may be for others, probably, because I am used to it.
Unfortunately, whatever strength I've gained from dealing with it over the years can
cause me to sometimes forget that others may not be able stomach it.
I don't know if I said that quite right but... anyway.
Anyway, depression "can" be a silent killer. IF allowed to it's own intensifying devices, it
could lead someone to suicide.
Combating depression requires facing it head on. It is defeated when the source of the
depression can looked upon without being overcome with depression.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you get dragged through the mud.
Just keep on keepin' on.
Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by MoonArtist
I hate dealing with depressing topics. More sunshine and butterflies!!
I understand. not many care too much about confronting depressing topics.
For me.. it's not as depressing as it may be for others, probably, because I am used to it.
Unfortunately, whatever strength I've gained from dealing with it over the years can
cause me to sometimes forget that others may not be able stomach it.
I don't know if I said that quite right but... anyway.
Anyway, depression "can" be a silent killer. IF allowed to it's own intensifying devices, it
could lead someone to suicide.
Combating depression requires facing it head on. It is defeated when the source of the
depression can looked upon without being overcome with depression.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you get dragged through the mud.
Just keep on keepin' on.
click to expand
Depression is definitely a battle, and a constant one. It requires vigilance, but also acceptance. The toughest part for many sufferers of depression is owning the depression.
My stance isn't so much about dealing with depression as it is with empathy. I avoid the news like the plague because there's too much that I have zero control over that is horrific and sad, but I can place myself in those people's shoes and it wrenches my heart seeing and hearing the pain and loss. Its not a complete ostrich in the sand syndrome for me but a keeping things manageable so I'm not in a constant state of being upset on behalf of someone. It fights with my very optimistic and upbeat side. sort of a balance on the knife blade act.
Ah, Erik. I did my homework on this years ago. He is a Leo. I know, disappointing, I always hoped or imagined him as a scorp but it makes sense since he's flamboyant and obviously needs to express himself, is drawn to the arts and he would be in the spotlight if it weren't for his disfigurement and how he learned that people are abhorred by him.
...of course he very well could have his moon and Venus in Scorpio. As far as I know he was born in August.
...of course he very well could have his moon and Venus in Scorpio. As far as I know he was born in August.
Hmmm...I'm skeptical at best about Leo signage. That assumption originated from the novel "Phantom" by Susan Kay. It's a good novel, but ought to be taken with a grain of salt.
As for Christine, she's got to be an air sign. Only an air girl could be so gullible she'd mistake a homicial mad genius musician/magician/composer/assassin/ventriloguist for an angelic presence.
As for Christine, she's got to be an air sign. Only an air girl could be so gullible she'd mistake a homicial mad genius musician/magician/composer/assassin/ventriloguist for an angelic presence.
Sorry, I had to come back, since this topic is pretty hot and asking for hotness.
Signs or no signs, this song sums it up just right.
Signs or no signs, this song sums it up just right.
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