Translate this scorpios hidden agenda... (Page 3)

UPDATE

He's been texting me all day... he just sent me this..

"I just found one of your hairs on one of my blankets"

WTF?! lol

He had to get on his hands and knees with a magnifying glass in hand to find that hair. he then attached that hair to the voo-doo doll he has made of you, in which he drew your face on from memory. He is now in the process of praying a mantra over the doll, begging his higher power to make you love him again.

true story 😉

Posted by BigGirlPanties
He had to get on his hands and knees with a magnifying glass in hand to find that hair. he then attached that hair to the voo-doo doll he has made of you, in which he drew your face on from memory. He is now in the process of praying a mantra over the doll, begging his higher power to make you love him again.

true story 😉

Lmao! Totally laughed outloud! Thanks for the lovely imagery hahahaha

My ex sent me a " I hope your happy "

LMAO

Just got back.

Had a great day and night with scorpio. But I don't want to jump the gun. I don't feel like I'm outta the woods just yet.

I don't want to romanticize it before I know what's going on for sure, but I thought I'd at least say something.

@sag89 He seems pretty upset about the whole thing, but not man enough to go after you

Nice kits!

Who won smash bros? lol

Yea I don't know what is with him. *shrugs*

I asked him " happy with what? "

He said " with everything "

I'm gonna send " r u? "

Tho I really don't understand.

Kits, I get the feeling you didnt straight out ask what he wanted with you, huh?

Got intoxicted by that scorpio charm>? I know it well. 😢

Posted by Sag89
Nice kits!

Who won smash bros? lol

Yea I don't know what is with him. *shrugs*

He did...everytime. We were gna place bets, but we only ended up placing one (a massage) and he of course won it.

Idk sag89 sounds like a bunch of games to me

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Kits, I get the feeling you didnt straight out ask what he wanted with you, huh?

Got intoxicted by that scorpio charm>? I know it well. 😢

Things were very silent on both ends.

While I did get the initial reactions from him I wanted I didn't come right out and ask what he wanted. That's one of the things I failed at :/ Yes I fail for the charm.

I'm trying to think how I can bring myself back from this

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sag89
Nice kits!

Who won smash bros? lol

Yea I don't know what is with him. *shrugs*

He did...everytime. We were gna place bets, but we only ended up placing one (a massage) and he of course won it.

Idk sag89 sounds like a bunch of games to me

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Lol I've played the game with bets

Yea probably I mean I just wonder whats the point

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Posted by BigGirlPanties
Kits, I get the feeling you didnt straight out ask what he wanted with you, huh?

Got intoxicted by that scorpio charm>? I know it well. 😢

Things were very silent on both ends.

While I did get the initial reactions from him I wanted I didn't come right out and ask what he wanted. That's one of the things I failed at :/ Yes I fail for the charm.

I'm trying to think how I can bring myself back from this

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Do want to be with him kits?

Boy have I been where you are. Everytime Id want to say something directly about what was going on, Id chicken out cus I was under the *spell*.

Each time, tho, I managed to grow some balls and ask a few more questions. I regret so much I didnt ask everything I wanted, or say what I wanted. I wish you could learn from experience. Eggshell walking is so painful.

*my experience

Your situation is and was diff then where happy is right now with her Scorp.

Again, both agreed to be friends. He's not doing anything wrong, and she's going along with it. Both their choices. Happy needs to decide for herself what she feels she wants, and that was friendship. If she feels it's too hard then she needs to say it's too hard being friends right now. But not be mad at him or push him to defining anything when it already was defined when he broke up with her.

This isn't him, this is her going along with it. They are communicating, both by choice. To advise her to push him into what he wants from her is not fair to him. He's not putting a gun to her head. And even if he is reconsidering? It is way to early for her to be pushing him into any decisions. This could be the beginning of a new relationship for them, and if it was someone new? Anyone would be advising to go with the flow, and quit being so pushy.

Seriously.

Posted by Sag89

Lol I've played the game with bets

Yea probably I mean I just wonder whats the point

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He made mention of my altered version of it (Sexy smash bros) that I had told him about before we stopped dating, but I told him no.

Honestly I was doing good up until he kissed me. We didn't do anything really passed that, but he did pin me a few times.

The last thing he did to me that really made me wonder if I ruined my chance is that he grabbed me, aggressively (which I like, but it really is my worst weakness) and started thrusting against me. I kept telling him to stop it, but he just continued, then took me to the floor. At that point he was really turning me on and I told him NO, but he took it as a sign that he had won because he finally turned me on.

After that it was really hard to tell what he was thinking cus he was just laying on the floor not saying anything, so I told him I was going to leave and got my stuff together. I was grabbing for the door and he hit his arm down on the ground to get my attention, so I looked over. Then he started getting dressed and walked me to the car.

I finally got tired of waiting for a hug so I hugged him, then I was pulling away and he still had his hand on my back like he wanted to me stay, so I hugged him again. Then I kissed him and got back in the car. It wasn't quite detached, but very mixed feeling.

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Posted by happykitsune

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Kits, I get the feeling you didnt straight out ask what he wanted with you, huh?

Got intoxicted by that scorpio charm>? I know it well. 😢

Things were very silent on both ends.

While I did get the initial reactions from him I wanted I didn't come right out and ask what he wanted. That's one of the things I failed at :/ Yes I fail for the charm.

I'm trying to think how I can bring myself back from this

Do want to be with him kits?

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Yes I do, but I'm gna try not to think about it and have the mentality that if it's meant to be it'll happen. I thought about texting him that if we hang out again I'd rather he respect my wishes and that he shouldn't blur the lines since were not dating, but I'm going to hold off on texting him that for as long as I can...or until he contacts me.

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sag89

Lol I've played the game with bets

Yea probably I mean I just wonder whats the point

He made mention of my altered version of it (Sexy smash bros) that I had told him about before we stopped dating, but I told him no.

Honestly I was doing good up until he kissed me. We didn't do anything really passed that, but he did pin me a few times.

The last thing he did to me that really made me wonder if I ruined my chance is that he grabbed me, aggressively (which I like, but it really is my worst weakness) and started thrusting against me. I kept telling him to stop it, but he just continued, then took me to the floor. At that point he was really turning me on and I told him NO, but he took it as a sign that he had won because he finally turned me on.

After that it was really hard to tell what he was thinking cus he was just laying on the floor not saying anything, so I told him I was going to leave and got my stuff together. I was grabbing for the door and he hit his arm down on the ground to get my attention, so I looked over. Then he started getting dressed and walked me to the car.

I finally got tired of waiting for a hug so I hugged him, then I was pulling away and he still had his hand on my back like he wanted to me stay, so I hugged him again. Then I kissed him and got back in the car. It wasn't quite detached, but very mixed feeling.

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This was just when you guys were gaming?

Posted by OceanDeep
Your situation is and was diff then where happy is right now with her Scorp.

Again, both agreed to be friends. He's not doing anything wrong, and she's going along with it. Both their choices. Happy needs to decide for herself what she feels she wants, and that was friendship. If she feels it's too hard then she needs to say it's too hard being friends right now. But not be mad at him or push him to defining anything when it already was defined when he broke up with her.

This isn't him, this is her going along with it. They are communicating, both by choice. To advise her to push him into what he wants from her is not fair to him. He's not putting a gun to her head. And even if he is reconsidering? It is way to early for her to be pushing him into any decisions. This could be the beginning of a new relationship for them, and if it was someone new? Anyone would be advising to go with the flow, and quit being so pushy.

Seriously.

True, all very true. Which is why I'm going to send that text to him, letting him know I don't want these mixed signals. I was talking to him about his critical-ness and how he is too harsh on people and he said something like "How do you know this isn't all a big game?". It made me feel like he was being critical with me just to get him way (to shape me) like you said. And it pissed me off. He said I looked like I wanted to punch him, but I didn't tell him why.

I need to get this straightened out tho, then get my focus back on God and school. I feel like I displayed a great deal of dominance and resistance in telling him not to do certain things (and he'd listen), but towards the end with that dry humping deal I feel like I messed up a lil :/ He was holding me all night tho...it felt so nice for him to tell me he was going to protect me and hold me tighter. I had really missed that...and just talking with him in general. It felt like nothing bad had happened in the first place. And that's what inevitably threw me off :/

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Posted by OceanDeep
Your situation is and was diff then where happy is right now with her Scorp.

Again, both agreed to be friends. He's not doing anything wrong, and she's going along with it. Both their choices. Happy needs to decide for herself what she feels she wants, and that was friendship. If she feels it's too hard then she needs to say it's too hard being friends right now. But not be mad at him or push him to defining anything when it already was defined when he broke up with her.

This isn't him, this is her going along with it. They are communicating, both by choice. To advise her to push him into what he wants from her is not fair to him. He's not putting a gun to her head. And even if he is reconsidering? It is way to early for her to be pushing him into any decisions. This could be the beginning of a new relationship for them, and if it was someone new? Anyone would be advising to go with the flow, and quit being so pushy.

Seriously.

True, all very true. Which is why I'm going to send that text to him, letting him know I don't want these mixed signals. I was talking to him about his critical-ness and how he is too harsh on people and he said something like "How do you know this isn't all a big game?". It made me feel like he was being critical with me just to get him way (to shape me) like you said. And it pissed me off. He said I looked like I wanted to punch him, but I didn't tell him why.

I need to get this straightened out tho, then get my focus back on God and school. I feel like I displayed a great deal of dominance and resistance in telling him not to do certain things (and he'd listen), but towards the end with that dry humping deal I feel like I messed up a lil :/ He was holding me all night tho...it felt so nice for him to tell me he was going to protect me and hold me tighter. I had really missed that...and just talking with him in general. It felt like nothing bad had happened in the first place. And that's what inevitably threw me off :/

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You posted a lot more details to just a simple gaming night after I posted that. lol Thats a lot that you left out when you told us you were back, knowing there was way more behind the night. Get what Im saying?

Posted by OceanDeep

This was just when you guys were gaming?

Yeah. We had been ice skating previously that day with a group tho, and went to a coffee shop with all of them for a few hrs too. He was running on 4 hrs of sleep so I didn't think he'd wanna hang with us at the shop let alone text me later to play the game.

I was a really good time. And he kept tackling me to the wall at the rink, but I would play it off like I wasn't really that interested. No wonder he chased. That's why I'm worried I ruined it towards the end. I never actually did anything with him, but he did do stuff to me...while I was telling him no...it was my fault for getting in the moment tho and pausing to enjoy it for a bit. I was seriously horny... but thts why I need to text him to not do that stuff again and lay down the law.
He's seen my dominant, leader side when I was directing my big group of friends and he knows I don't tolerate stuff like him touching my butt, boobs, or vag. But if he sees any weakness he tends to try to go farther than I'd like him to. I need to work on not being so weak for sexual things..gotta keep my eyes on the prize.

Didn't help that he's been working out either so he has got a nice body now :/

Posted by OceanDeep

You posted a lot more details to just a simple gaming night after I posted that. lol Thats a lot that you left out when you told us you were back, knowing there was way more behind the night. Get what Im saying?

Exactly. And I did make mention that I'd post more later, but that I didn't want to at that moment because I tend to romanticize in the beginning before I know all the details. I thought it would be good to make mention of the bad stuff tho. The stuff that would actually alter whether he chased me or not.

I'd like to post details of the entire time he and I spent together, but I'm not sure if I should just post em now while they are raw or if I should give myself time to process why certain things occurred and look at it more logically instead of just with the young eyes of passion.

I'd really like to get some insight, but I don't want to mislead people if by giving a lovey dovey perspective

Well, for my opinion it makes a diff because my stance has been you two agreed to be friends. Before you posted that, I didnt see anything wrong with what he's doing. This does make a difference, what you posted after the fact. I guess I dont know what to tell you. I would be confused by this, but nothing by what he was doing before as I dont think he was giving you mixed signals as a friend, but of course too a good basis for something you two to build on something. ... With you keeping the mindset that you two only being friends.

Posted by OceanDeep
Well, for my opinion it makes a diff because my stance has been you two agreed to be friends. Before you posted that, I didnt see anything wrong with what he's doing. This does make a difference, what you posted after the fact. I guess I dont know what to tell you. I would be confused by this, but nothing by what he was doing before as I dont think he was giving you mixed signals as a friend, but of course too a good basis for something you two to build on something. ... With you keeping the mindset that you two only being friends.

But you know at this point I don't wanna just be friends. So I need to set things straight.

I kinda figured I wouldn't ask right away when I first hung out with him. To me it was more of a feeling out process to see if he was going to flirt with me or not. What I didn't plan on was him coming on so strong. And with that much affection.

But I have my next move planned out. I'll execute it when I feel like the time is right. For now I'll just go about my life as I have been

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by OceanDeep
Well, for my opinion it makes a diff because my stance has been you two agreed to be friends. Before you posted that, I didnt see anything wrong with what he's doing. This does make a difference, what you posted after the fact. I guess I dont know what to tell you. I would be confused by this, but nothing by what he was doing before as I dont think he was giving you mixed signals as a friend, but of course too a good basis for something you two to build on something. ... With you keeping the mindset that you two only being friends.

But you know at this point I don't wanna just be friends. So I need to set things straight.

I kinda figured I wouldn't ask right away when I first hung out with him. To me it was more of a feeling out process to see if he was going to flirt with me or not. What I didn't plan on was him coming on so strong. And with that much affection.

But I have my next move planned out. I'll execute it when I feel like the time is right. For now I'll just go about my life as I have been

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I understand what you're saying. But I've stood by my thought on this and actually went to bat for both he and you that you both wanted to be friends. And to give the guy a break both off of what you two decided you wanted. I'm not a mind reader when I posted that again tonight, and for you now to say that you no longer want to be friends and based off of something none of us were aware of after you said the night went well, and left quite a bit out. lol Hope it works out to the way you want it!! 🙂

Wait why did you quote me?

Why are you sexually weak kits? It sounds like your ashamed of your sexuality sometimes if anything?

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Posted by happykitsune

Posted by OceanDeep
Well, for my opinion it makes a diff because my stance has been you two agreed to be friends. Before you posted that, I didnt see anything wrong with what he's doing. This does make a difference, what you posted after the fact. I guess I dont know what to tell you. I would be confused by this, but nothing by what he was doing before as I dont think he was giving you mixed signals as a friend, but of course too a good basis for something you two to build on something. ... With you keeping the mindset that you two only being friends.

But you know at this point I don't wanna just be friends. So I need to set things straight.

I kinda figured I wouldn't ask right away when I first hung out with him. To me it was more of a feeling out process to see if he was going to flirt with me or not. What I didn't plan on was him coming on so strong. And with that much affection.

But I have my next move planned out. I'll execute it when I feel like the time is right. For now I'll just go about my life as I have been

I understand what you're saying. But I've stood by my thought on this and actually went to bat for both he and you that you both wanted to be friends. And to give the guy a break both off of what you two decided you wanted. I'm not a mind reader when I posted that again tonight, and for you now to say that you no longer want to be friends and based off of something none of us were aware of after you said the night went well, and left quite a bit out. lol Hope it works out to the way you want it!! 🙂

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Thank you! I really appreciate your posts!

Posted by Sag89
Why are you sexually weak kits? It sounds like your ashamed of your sexuality sometimes if anything?

Because I get horny very easily. Especially around scorpio...when he has his shirt off.

I'm only ashamed if I know I should be holding out. Right now is not the right time to be giving into my sexual appetite. Especially since he said one of the things that bothered him is that when we were dating we went too fast sexually. I hated this too. I want to take it slow and build the sexual stuff on more than just lust

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Posted by Sag89
Why are you sexually weak kits? It sounds like your ashamed of your sexuality sometimes if anything?

Because I get horny very easily. Especially around scorpio...when he has his shirt off.

I'm only ashamed if I know I should be holding out. Right now is not the right time to be giving into my sexual appetite. Especially since he said one of the things that bothered him is that when we were dating we went too fast sexually. I hated this too. I want to take it slow and build the sexual stuff on more than just lust

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Update

He texted me an hr ago asking about a status I posted.

I talked to my dad about this whole situation and he told me the same thing I've been getting from him...be scarce lol. So I guess I'm still playing that card. Thankfully today is my busy day so the soonest I'd be texting him is around 3. I may hold off tho

ah hem...May I remind you about MY diamond comment several pages back. 😉

You cannot expect him to control the sexual direction...your body, your choice. Respect it and he will follow.

*damnscorpiocharm*

Posted by BigGirlPanties
ah hem...May I remind you about MY diamond comment several pages back. 😉

You cannot expect him to control the sexual direction...your body, your choice. Respect it and he will follow.

*damnscorpiocharm*

Lol of course. I have no forgot your diamond comments at all 😉

Thanks BGP, I've been realizing this. And it makes me worry because I'm such a sexual being. I'll have to find some other way to take care of it before I see him again.

I was on the right course of respecting myself when I kept blatantly telling me know...but I was around him for too long that I eventually was weakened and fell. Yes, the damn scorpio charm. I have been praying for strength in that area tho and I feel like (despite my slip up) I did a lot better for myself than I usually would have. Woo hoo to me for not giving into sexual advances and having relations with him. Just gotta keep at it. And thank you for the support and understanding on your part

Update

So scorpio finally said sorry for the actions he did before I left. I told him I really didn't appreciate it.

Should I go further with this?

That's a decision only you can make. The real question lies in why you didnt follow thru with asking him what his intention is. To get back together, or just remain friends. You know whats best for you. When you accept it without clarification, you are sendng the same mixed messages.

Just ask him...the worst he can do is reject you which has already happened. better to know the truth NOW, than when you are all wrapped up in him again, no?

Posted by BigGirlPanties
That's a decision only you can make. The real question lies in why you didnt follow thru with asking him what his intention is. To get back together, or just remain friends. You know whats best for you. When you accept it without clarification, you are sendng the same mixed messages.

Just ask him...the worst he can do is reject you which has already happened. better to know the truth NOW, than when you are all wrapped up in him again, no?

You're very right. I read this this morning and it made me remember the anxieties I had felt last night. I made a bold move and texted him this morning about the mixed signals he sent. His response was a simple "sorry?" then "What mixed signals?"
I simply texted him "the kissing and other intimate stuff". Tried to keep it short and to the point. Depending on what he says next I'm planning to lead with something like "Act that way can ruin a friendship. If you really valued me you would respect me"

"Act that way can ruin a friendship. If you really valued me you would respect me"

Its good you brought it up, but wouldnt a verbal conversation be most effective? Texting is impersonal, words can be taken out of context and games can be played, like him asking "What mixed messages?".

And I am going to challenge you on the above statement.....when YOU value YOU...he WILL value you the same. So, when you reject his sexual advances you are sending the message that you respect yourself enough to not be the non-committed friend with benefit that he is trying to make you.

We "teach" people how to treat us. I know you can do the right thing by you...and know you WILL have a positive outcome. 🙂

Thanks. I couldn't wait any longer so I just went at it. Found out he still just wants to be friends so I told him I can't do this anymore. I just can't be friends with you. because of the feelings I still feel for you.

He hasn't responded yet, and he posted something on fb recently so my guess is he's not going to reply.

Looks like it's over.

Well at least you know where you stand. I think he is quite confused, but not evil. He obviosuly likes you and is attracted to you. But he has to know he cant have it both ways.

Im sorry. I do think he will try again to connect with you again. Im thinking your scarcity is best....for your own well being.

(((hugggggs))

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Well at least you know where you stand. I think he is quite confused, but not evil. He obviosuly likes you and is attracted to you. But he has to know he cant have it both ways.

Im sorry. I do think he will try again to connect with you again. Im thinking your scarcity is best....for your own well being.

(((hugggggs))

I don't think he's evil either. But he needed someone to be stronger in that sense to make sure things didn't blow over past being friends. I had to finally just put it out there.

Thanks, I feel like scarcity is the best thing I can do for myself at this point.

He did send a text while I was out, right after the text about me saying we shouldn't be friends. I think that really through him for a loop because his response was "Oh....." like he really didn't know how to respond cus it was such a shock.

Still debating if I should respond to that one. I think the only thing I could really say at this point is "have a nice life and take care"

It really hurts...idk if by doing this I did the right thing. I feel lonely again, but I still don't want to be with the other guys trying to pursue me...I just feel at a standstill again

He also just sent
"Well alright"

the acceptance of it I suppose.

I just feel like I lost a really good friend

Ex Scorp : Hope you happy

Me: Happy with what?

Ex Scorp : With everything

Me: R u?

Ex Scorp : Dunno

Me : Whys that?

Ex Scorp : Just don't know. I'm sorry I've been weird. It's just hard for me.

Like ?? you know?

That sucks kits

Sounds like your ex scorpio just doesn't know how to end things fully. He's still hanging on...which will only hurt you and him in the end...not a smart move on his part

No worries.

Right?

Oh well his life

Posted by Sag89
Right?

Oh well his life

Well take into consideration you're dating someone else right now. You guys haven't really talked things over. He really doesn't have any idea how you feel at this point. He obviously still likes you, but he has to keep it under wraps or risk hurting himself cus you may not like him and to him you prob don't cus you're dating someone else and cutting him outta the picture... so now he'll just suffer in silence till he's gotten over you

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Posted by Sag89
Right?

Oh well his life

Well take into consideration you're dating someone else right now. You guys haven't really talked things over. He really doesn't have any idea how you feel at this point. He obviously still likes you, but he has to keep it under wraps or risk hurting himself cus you may not like him and to him you prob don't cus you're dating someone else and cutting him outta the picture... so now he'll just suffer in silence till he's gotten over you

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Yea I mean he told me he didn't/seem like want to be friends. So I'm confused by everything he is saying.

Sag89....admit it...you still want it. Its obvious as Ive read all your posts on him.
Why are you dilly dallying around with him?

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Sag89....admit it...you still want it. Its obvious as Ive read all your posts on him.
Why are you dilly dallying around with him?

Oh ya? What is it I want?